Hello Everyone,
I am a new Atrix owner who just received the phone with .91 installed.
Before I go to a custom ROM (CM7, ICS, etc), I always like to check out the factory ROM to see what its all about.
Obviously, AT&T is hounding me to upgrade to .141, which is something I would like to do just to see any changes/improvements.
If I upgrade to .141, I see there's a new way to root the phone (well, it looks new anyway) -- how about installing custom ROMs, am I still able to do that if I go to .141? I've been trying to read as much as I can. It appears there are issues with going to .141 if you have a unlocked bootloader, but that isn't me (yet!).
Thanks,
Chris
I would unlock the bootloader first then flash a fruitcake of the new update. The fruitcake will be the same as if you updated normally but you will maintain your unlocked bootloader and root without the risk of bricking your phone. That way if you don't like it you can switch to a custom ROM. As far as I'm aware you can't unlock the bootloafer once you update. I could be wrong about that though.
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1. +1, it would make more sense to just flash a fruitcake
2. Yes, you can unlock the bootloader if you have updated to .141, but I have only read it working for people who had previously unlocked it.
jadwv2210 said:
I would unlock the bootloader first then flash a fruitcake of the new update. The fruitcake will be the same as if you updated normally but you will maintain your unlocked bootloader and root without the risk of bricking your phone. That way if you don't like it you can switch to a custom ROM. As far as I'm aware you can't unlock the bootloafer once you update. I could be wrong about that though.
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Thanks to you both for responding -- I'm still trying to read up on the Atrix, so having this info really helps. I will go ahead and unlock/root with .91 and then do a Fruitcake upgrade (and then eventually do a real ROM! )
Thanks again guys for your replies. I really like the phone so far -- screen is just the right size, battery life is very nice (a huge plus), and its thin and light. Good stuff!
Chris
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I just got my replacement atrix today, im trying to figure out whether I should update it to the 2.3.4 OTA or not. My old atrix I had unlocked on 1.83 and was running cherryblur. Is it easier to unlock on 1.83 or the new OTA or are both easy now?
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Basically, if want to be adventurous with the ROMS and crazy modifications, then root and unlock bootloader, or if you are fine with the official OTA update. Then just stick with those. I am sticking with OTA since I don't want to brick since I am using my ATRIX for college and job and need a reliable phone. I might root it though if I can figure it out.
My modding fun is with my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. That's my xda fun.
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I was glad OTA keeps ALL of your settings and applications. I did it, only because Motorola says they will unlock the bootloader. When that happens I figure I'll finally root and go wild with ROMs, because my 1 year warranty may be close to expiring anyway.
For me, with no other changes but the OTA upgrade, my battery life BLOWS me away. I used to get down to 10-15% after 9 hours, casual internet and lots of mp3 playback.
Now I only get down to 45% doing the same exact stuff! Astonishing.
If you are waiting for unofficial unlock support from Motorola, do the OTA. you will be happy in the interim
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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sunshine1982 said:
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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According to this thread here:
http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/mo...official-2-3-4-build-4-5-91-can-i-unlock.html
you can still unlock but there is a small risk of bricking -- unlocking before flashing to 2.3.4 OTA is advised (or do what I did and click the first link on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261 , run the SBF via RSD Lite 5.31 & motorola's drivers (you can find them on their site in the Atrix section)), send the unlock command via fastboot, and follow the rooting instructions -- all of which are again on the same first link on that page.
EDIT:
This allows you to flash an unlocked bootloader, GB 2.3.4 update, as well as root, all via one file. Remember that there are instructions to follow, it doesn't unlock or root for you, but provides all three as part of a flashable file.
Others feel free to chime in -- I'm only explaining what I did and worked for me. I understand that the general concensus is that SBF file carry a higher risk than other methods of flashing.
I have an unlocked and rooted Atrix 4G running on 4.1.83, and I know once I do the 4.5 update I will loose the ability of RSD Lite to flash back to previous sbf's. I have put off this update due to the fact of possibly limiting my options with the phone. I havn't had enough time to really look into different roms or even start studying up on developing something (which I want to in the future; just busy with job interviews and a big move coming up). But to get to the point, is it worth it for me just to do the update or not? I am curious of everyones thoughts on this....
Thanks
Personally, I think it's not worth updating since we will soon have CM7. It's all up to you though. I enjoy my freedom when customizing my phone. Do you?
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you can use fruitcakes to flash 1.83 if froyo is your thing.
Personally even the buggy CM7 build is miles ahead of the assorted 2.3.4 Roms if you don't need a camera or wifi tether. I will never run 2.2 again
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moto's own bootloader unlock
Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
i ran the update and have lost my tethering hack... looking for a fix now.
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Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
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They did unlock the BT but locked it again...
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No offense but the mods probably want this in Q&A. That being said, CWM Recovery is the safest route post 2.3.4 update. That is actually the preferred method anyway. All of the Atrix firmwares are available as CWM flashable zips in samcripp's fruitcakes thread. You don't really lose anything but the ability to use RSD which is least preferable anyway.
Hi All, I just got my Nexus one off ebay and it appears its not rooted as i do not see the padlock icon and i also cannot run the nexus torch.
What im looking to do is revert back to the stock software and than do all the OTA updates myself.
Can someone help me with this ? Im not looking to root though.
Im running the ATT version of the Nexus one.
Thanks all for your help.
To be root or not
if you do not see the padlock, then you are root!!
hi, yes i know and i do not see the pad lock so i have a unrooted phone. Im trying to find out how i can install the stock software this way i can do the OTA updates myself.
Thanks
If there's no padlock and you're sure it's not rooted... why do you think it's not already stock?
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
If its not rooted, root it! What version you on currently?
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Im on the Nexus one ATT version, running the most recent gingerbread OS.
2.3.6???
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If it is, try root using this... http://apachejava.blogspot.com/2011/06/root-nexus-one-gingerbread-234.html
My dad using my nexus one, so i dunno much... So, is your bootloader unlock, if it is, then go ahead with the link above... Then S-OFF using BlackRose...
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Check this!!
Might help you.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/56512/downgrading-google-nexus-one-from-android-gingerbr.html
If you don't see the padlock it means the bootloader is still locked. If you don't have the SuperUser app then you are more than likely NOT rooted. Sounds like a stock phone if you ask me. Why do you want to roll back to Froyo then update? Sounds like you are already where you want to be. It sounds like a case of reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow. Heh. If you try to OTA update it and it says you are up to date, I would suggest leaving it alone or just root it! Good luck!
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zinner526 said:
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
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Why? Is there a problem with what is currently installed? If it's working fine, then I would expect downgrading to a previous version and applying the updates would just get you back to where you are now. I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand what you're looking to achieve
If you mean stock as in "original" that isn't Froyo either. The Nexus One originally came with Eclair (2.1). If you don't have root, I'm not sure if you can downgrade or how safe it would be. I've seen mixed results with downgrading. The only way to do a complete flash would be with an unlocked bootloader or root + custom recovery.
If you don't want to root or unlock the bootloader, why not just do a full wipe and use the version you have on it? You could also root it temporarily to restore to an unrooted Eclair or Froyo, then apply the updates.
Thanks Narbir, I'm going to try this. Does it matter I have AT&T ?
I hope So. I m usng Voda uk. Don't really brother me by that.
Well the phone reboots often for no reason so i thought if i started from the factory installed software and go forward it would help.
How hard is it to root to install enclar and than go forward ? Unless someone has another idea for the reboot issue ?
Install the latest stock ROM in PASSIMG format (complete ROM, all the partitions). No need to go back to Eclair or Froyo.
Prepare for the possibility of it not helping at all, and your phone HW being faulty. If you have ADB set up - you can run "adb bugreport" after the crash, and look for "ARM9 has crashed" line in the log dump that comes. If you'll see them - no amount of ROM switching will help.
Not to sound pedantic, but you seem a little confused (OP). Why don't you start by reading the FAQs regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader, and understanding the ROM installation processes.
Couple of fundamentals to get you started:
1. The padlock (or absence of) is no indication of whether you are rooted or not. It merely indicates whether your 'bootloader' is unlocked or not, which is a completely separate concept from rooting.
2. Easiest method of seeing whether you are rooted is to see if you have the 'SuperUser' app in your app drawer.
If your objective is to install a stock/default ROM, search for a 'PASSIMG' for the latest available firmware for your device. Search these forums or Google it. The procedure is fairly straightforward and only involves putting the file on your SD card - and will restore your phone to a stock usable state.
If you're interested in custom ROMs, the fastest way to get started is to use SuperOneClick to root (Google, please). Then go to the market and download ROM Manager and just follow the instructions!
Hi,
I'm about to order an (unlocked) atrix on amazon but I still got a few things I want to be sure about before I do.
1. If I buy an unlocked atrix it should work perfectly fine in germany, right? I've read about some wifi problems but I heard they don't occur with the newer versions and there are also fixes available. Is that how it is?
2. I can run this script (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871) to at first unlock the bootloader and then root & install recovery, right? So basicall after I run this script I can just download a rom and install it via recovery just like on any other android phone, right?
Thanks in advance
1. Yes. I have AT&T Atrix, traveling around and works everywhere including Germany
2. Yes, I used it to unlock and root. Anyway, be very careful. Read all guide few times, understand it, charge battery, prepare yourself... and good luck.
Just remember, one unlock is for carrier and second is for bootloader. If you buy unlocked phone, it means unlocked from carrier. Unlocking booloader you are going to lose warranty.
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2. Yes, I used it to unlock and root. Anyway, be very careful. Read all guide few times, understand it, charge battery, prepare yourself... and good luck.
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+1000 to this. You need to be 100% sure before doing anything with this phone. It is brickable. The key here is to avoid flashing SBF files. As long as you flash stuff with CWR, you are fine. Good luck. And don't hesite to buy the Atrix, its a pretty nice phone. Im very impressed with it.
Wifi issue has been confirmed one year ago for the Atrixs were running on the first firmware (Froyo 2.2 - FW version 1.2.6). But just after a bit of time, Moto realeased new update and issue has been corrected and the wifi has been being amazing till now
There are two unlockings. Carrier unlocking and bootloader unlocking. Both allow you to take the atrix out of AT&T to use worlwide and install any custom rom, especially CM7 or Webtop full Ubuntu mod, the ones defined what is a power device
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Hi,
I recently purchased an Atrix 4G for cheap and am now trying to update it to a more recent firmware version.
I currently have a:
MB860
on Android 2.2.2
running Version.4.4.20.MB860.Retail.en.DE
Checking for system updates through the phone doesn't yield any results. Threads on the web or this forum often lead to dead links or warnings about RAM problems or the possibility of bricking my device.
I'm not technologically retarded (as in I can jailbreak and install packages on an iPhone) but most of the update/flashing instructions aren't really helpful for someone who's just getting into android.
Where do I start?
I would start with the sticky at the top of this section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984381), or skip to the 4th sticky (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423).
It is written step by step.
I'm not trying to unlock my bootloader on 2.3.4, because my phone isn't running 2.3.4. I can't find any info regarding help for people still stuck on FroyoYo there, either.
The bootloader is irrespective of the version of Android you are running. Follow the directions to unlock it first, install an alternate recovery and then flash whatever you like.
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The bootloader is irrespective of the version of Android you are running. Follow the directions to unlock it first, install an alternate recovery and then flash whatever you like.
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Thanks for the info. So doing this allows me to install Custom ROMs on my Atrix? While that is indeed useful, it doesn't really answer my initial question.
Is there a way to update my phone to 2.3.4 without rooting or unlocking first? I'm currently just looking for a stable webtop experience and decent battery life. If I get that on Stock 2.3.4, I might wait with the flashing experiments.
Go to settings, about, and check for updates. (if memory serves me correctly)
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you need to go to motorola website and download system updater....
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thesummoner101 said:
Go to settings, about, and check for updates. (if memory serves me correctly)
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This tells me that my device is up-to-date.
you need to go to motorola website and download system updater....
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The threads in the development forum warn about installing official updates. Do I risk bricking my device if I install a custom rom after using the system updater?
Placeb00 said:
Thanks for the info. So doing this allows me to install Custom ROMs on my Atrix? While that is indeed useful, it doesn't really answer my initial question.
Is there a way to update my phone to 2.3.4 without rooting or unlocking first? I'm currently just looking for a stable webtop experience and decent battery life. If I get that on Stock 2.3.4, I might wait with the flashing experiments.
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You DO NOT want the latest stock update if you're planning on doing tinkering down the road. As far as I understand it, one of the latest OTAs pretty much blocks you from unlocking the bootloader. (Same for the Photon)
With this phone, if you put your faith on Motorola, you get royally screwed. I would break from the shackles sooner rather than later.
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As far as I understand it, one of the latest OTAs pretty much blocks you from unlocking the bootloader. (Same for the Photon).
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Where are you getting this from?
A little update:
Rooted, unlocked my bootloader, flashed a 2.3.6 ROM. Everything works fine, and I'm really happy with my new phone/netbook combo.
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A little update:
Rooted, unlocked my bootloader, flashed a 2.3.6 ROM. Everything works fine, and I'm really happy with my new phone/netbook combo.
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Could you post link where did you tutorial. I have retail Eu version and don't know where to start.
On samsung or sony its much simpler.
Or I have become more stupid
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
This is the tutorial I used.
Placeb00 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
This is the tutorial I used.
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Thank you.
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revdep-rebuild error
For what it's worth:
Editing /usr/bin/revdep-rebuild.sh with nano and changing 2 instances of /var/cache to /preinstall/var/cache resolved all my problems.
More specificly:
line 262: "$WORKING_DIR" != "/var/cache/${APP_NAME}"
and
line 559: local tmp_target=var/cache/${APP_NAME}
Good luck.
just follow the official CM guide for atrix. that's the best