I just got my replacement atrix today, im trying to figure out whether I should update it to the 2.3.4 OTA or not. My old atrix I had unlocked on 1.83 and was running cherryblur. Is it easier to unlock on 1.83 or the new OTA or are both easy now?
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Basically, if want to be adventurous with the ROMS and crazy modifications, then root and unlock bootloader, or if you are fine with the official OTA update. Then just stick with those. I am sticking with OTA since I don't want to brick since I am using my ATRIX for college and job and need a reliable phone. I might root it though if I can figure it out.
My modding fun is with my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. That's my xda fun.
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I was glad OTA keeps ALL of your settings and applications. I did it, only because Motorola says they will unlock the bootloader. When that happens I figure I'll finally root and go wild with ROMs, because my 1 year warranty may be close to expiring anyway.
For me, with no other changes but the OTA upgrade, my battery life BLOWS me away. I used to get down to 10-15% after 9 hours, casual internet and lots of mp3 playback.
Now I only get down to 45% doing the same exact stuff! Astonishing.
If you are waiting for unofficial unlock support from Motorola, do the OTA. you will be happy in the interim
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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sunshine1982 said:
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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According to this thread here:
http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/mo...official-2-3-4-build-4-5-91-can-i-unlock.html
you can still unlock but there is a small risk of bricking -- unlocking before flashing to 2.3.4 OTA is advised (or do what I did and click the first link on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261 , run the SBF via RSD Lite 5.31 & motorola's drivers (you can find them on their site in the Atrix section)), send the unlock command via fastboot, and follow the rooting instructions -- all of which are again on the same first link on that page.
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This allows you to flash an unlocked bootloader, GB 2.3.4 update, as well as root, all via one file. Remember that there are instructions to follow, it doesn't unlock or root for you, but provides all three as part of a flashable file.
Others feel free to chime in -- I'm only explaining what I did and worked for me. I understand that the general concensus is that SBF file carry a higher risk than other methods of flashing.
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My Atrix 4g is rooted on 4.1.57 and I am not seeing the latest 1.8.3 update. help!
Me either. I'm pretty sure its not because of root though since others with root have gotten the update
Thats what I was wondering. I was able to update with the root last time, I don't see why this would be different
So we need to unroot and then update ?
And then root 1.8.3 with Gingerbreak?
Nothing should effect your ability to see it. If you have one of the pseudo roms installed, that will prevent you from installing it, however.
I don't think we need to un-root to see the update - that really shouldn't effect anything. Once we get to 1.8.3 GingerBreak will root it fine, the issue is just getting to that point via OTA Update which we aren't seeing
no root here and I'm still not seeing it yet.
1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
frowny face?
And for a more solid piece of evidence that the previously mentioned article cited
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB117611
I would guess they're still in the process of "rolling out" the update. Just give it a little time.
My mom's Atrix is NOT rooted and isn't able to find the update. I have to flash the SBF through RSD Lite.
On a side note, the hell is
These software updates need to be installed in order, and are available to users via Wi-Fi only for the first 100 days
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supposed to mean D:
That makes no sense. Let me use my" 4g" to download the update. But thanks everyone keep up to date if you get the update
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
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Rolling out doesn't mean live for everyone. Also, this update isn't official until ken releases Gingerblur 3.0 anyway, since the stock experience is pretty much a joke.
Is GingerBlur the best rom? // easy to install/update?
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Just flash the sbf it doesn't wipe any data of course im not running any mods or "roms" other than root. It did get rid of root though and running gingerRoot wiped my internal storage (like it said it would), but i backed that up no harm ;-)
So my area in NC is not "live" yet it seems.
Not live in Philadelphia either
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The patch isn't live yet folks! It's still being pushed out in testing.
I believe it's not root, but deodexed files which cause issues with updating. People with root have managed to update, but people like me who had GreyBlur had to flash back to 4.1.26, update to 4.1.57, update to 4.1.83, then root and sideload again. Also, before rooting, it's adviseable to use Kennethpenn's deodex flash for 4.1.83 first.
rooted, running gingerblur 2.5.. no update available yet here in south Florida. not too concerned about it though.. i did the HUSPA mod & i'm content for now
So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
Ive not rooted or unlocked the boot loader yet myself as this is my first android device im taking it slowly but according to threads in the development section you can root and upgrade as long as you do nothing to the device before upgrading, root the phone then upgrade to 2.3.3
This means flashing backwards first obviously.
As far as upgrading in the future you will be better off flashing a custom rom if development goes well. Custom roms will take this device further than official updates will.
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So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090. Follow the steps and you shall have root on 2.3.3 . I have also opted to "freeze" the bloat this time instead of just uninstalling it, in hopes that when 2.3.4 arrives i can do the ota update again and still keep root.
Also @ -josh- rooting will not damage your phone so its safe to root. I am also a first time android user myself but following the steps in the thread above worked fine no problems. And even if it didnt you can use SEUS to fix a phone with a locked bootloader
I rooted my phone when i was using 2.3.2 and found a good improvement.
Then i updated to an unrooted 2.3.3.
Ive left it unrooted for now. 2.3.3 performance is better than a rooted 2.3.2 i find.
It would be nice to root and remove the bloatwarw and overclock to 1.5 ghz, which can now be done. But for now i am happy.
Aside from a few Gameloft games not working, 2.3.3 is outstanding.
Not going to root until something major happens. Only reason i can see to root is to clock to 1.5 ghz to get n64oid working better.
Other than that, no point imo.
i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
You can are not supposed to flash to 2.3.3.. You are supposed to flash your phone to 2.3.2 uk generic version. After root your phone and through your phone you go to settings /about/update software and upgrade it there without hooking it to the computer. Make sure that your bootloader is LOCKED, otherwise you brick your phone.
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All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
Deoxlar said:
All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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I uninstalled all my non-working gameloft games.
Anyway i can get them back without purchasing them again?
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i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
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Use this to get to 2.3.3 unrooted. Everything will be put back to stock.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ds/subject/updateservice/1.915711?cc=gb&lc=en
Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
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You are clearly doing something wrong, the only phone that can't be rooted is the version version of the play.
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Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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Thanks for this info.
Unfortunately it didnt work for me. I only have one game in the list which was Asphalt 6.
Ive bought about half of them so there should be plenty more in the list but they are not there.
Ive emailed customer service. Not really that bothered if i get them back or not but i wanted to play Sacred Odessy again. It stopped working when i updated to 2.3.3.
Nevermind.
Don't email them. Call them. Email takes more then a week for each reply. Calling us 10 minutes wait
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sheise. i've been on 2.3.3 unrooted for weeks now and i'm sick of the bloatware... flashing a 2.3.2 UK generic ROM via FlashTool gives back an error that's why i stuck to 2.3.3 unrooted..
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oh well, the root-the-2.3.2-then-update-to-2.3.3-via-OTA method suddenly worked today.. sheise!
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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so everyone still uses FlashTool? it gives me back an error so i used WotanClient. Worked like a charm! I'm now on 2.3.3 UK Generic ROOTED! and works like anything else here in the philippines!
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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Thanks, so if I want there's an option to keep all my data/settings? Basically I could flash a rooted version of 2.3.3 onto my xperia play running 2.3.3? Cheers
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.
I have an unlocked and rooted Atrix 4G running on 4.1.83, and I know once I do the 4.5 update I will loose the ability of RSD Lite to flash back to previous sbf's. I have put off this update due to the fact of possibly limiting my options with the phone. I havn't had enough time to really look into different roms or even start studying up on developing something (which I want to in the future; just busy with job interviews and a big move coming up). But to get to the point, is it worth it for me just to do the update or not? I am curious of everyones thoughts on this....
Thanks
Personally, I think it's not worth updating since we will soon have CM7. It's all up to you though. I enjoy my freedom when customizing my phone. Do you?
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you can use fruitcakes to flash 1.83 if froyo is your thing.
Personally even the buggy CM7 build is miles ahead of the assorted 2.3.4 Roms if you don't need a camera or wifi tether. I will never run 2.2 again
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moto's own bootloader unlock
Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
i ran the update and have lost my tethering hack... looking for a fix now.
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Isn't moto going to unlock the boot loader anyway? Wouldn't that mean it would be possible to continue the stock ROM updates and then choose to unlock after the next update from moto and have the ability to flash arbitrary ROMs as current unlocked owners can? Perhaps I'm missing something between the curren unofficial unlock and moto's future unlock.
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They did unlock the BT but locked it again...
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No offense but the mods probably want this in Q&A. That being said, CWM Recovery is the safest route post 2.3.4 update. That is actually the preferred method anyway. All of the Atrix firmwares are available as CWM flashable zips in samcripp's fruitcakes thread. You don't really lose anything but the ability to use RSD which is least preferable anyway.
Hello Everyone,
I am a new Atrix owner who just received the phone with .91 installed.
Before I go to a custom ROM (CM7, ICS, etc), I always like to check out the factory ROM to see what its all about.
Obviously, AT&T is hounding me to upgrade to .141, which is something I would like to do just to see any changes/improvements.
If I upgrade to .141, I see there's a new way to root the phone (well, it looks new anyway) -- how about installing custom ROMs, am I still able to do that if I go to .141? I've been trying to read as much as I can. It appears there are issues with going to .141 if you have a unlocked bootloader, but that isn't me (yet!).
Thanks,
Chris
I would unlock the bootloader first then flash a fruitcake of the new update. The fruitcake will be the same as if you updated normally but you will maintain your unlocked bootloader and root without the risk of bricking your phone. That way if you don't like it you can switch to a custom ROM. As far as I'm aware you can't unlock the bootloafer once you update. I could be wrong about that though.
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1. +1, it would make more sense to just flash a fruitcake
2. Yes, you can unlock the bootloader if you have updated to .141, but I have only read it working for people who had previously unlocked it.
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I would unlock the bootloader first then flash a fruitcake of the new update. The fruitcake will be the same as if you updated normally but you will maintain your unlocked bootloader and root without the risk of bricking your phone. That way if you don't like it you can switch to a custom ROM. As far as I'm aware you can't unlock the bootloafer once you update. I could be wrong about that though.
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Thanks to you both for responding -- I'm still trying to read up on the Atrix, so having this info really helps. I will go ahead and unlock/root with .91 and then do a Fruitcake upgrade (and then eventually do a real ROM! )
Thanks again guys for your replies. I really like the phone so far -- screen is just the right size, battery life is very nice (a huge plus), and its thin and light. Good stuff!
Chris