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Noob Question - Problem

Installed FroyoStone_Sense to my HD2. I've found that every time I switch back to WM by doing a soft reset a particular folder is damaged, forcing me to restore it. Should I be installing the Android folder to a clean, empty SD card? I was under the impression that I could just add the folder to my existing WM SD card.
Thanks in advance.
-Bob-

I don't know about other people but I install the droid folder onto a freshly formatted sd card to make sure. Many of the files on the droid folder will only be read by the WM OS system unless you hook into a PC.

rebecker said:
Installed FroyoStone_Sense to my HD2. I've found that every time I switch back to WM by doing a soft reset a particular folder is damaged, forcing me to restore it. Should I be installing the Android folder to a clean, empty SD card? I was under the impression that I could just add the folder to my existing WM SD card.
Thanks in advance.
-Bob-
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That's what I've been doing, and I've used probably about 10 builds and have never had the problem you describe.
What folder is it?

I do have one question though, why do you 'soft reset'? Is the build your using always freezing up or is it to access some of the non-droid applications associated with WM?

norodaigh said:
I do have one question though, why do you 'soft reset'? Is the build your using always freezing up or is it to access some of the non-droid applications associated with WM?
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Soft reset to go back to WM. Haven't gone beyond the most basic experimentation with the Android build. Need to get some work done occasionally.
-Bob-

johncmolyneux said:
That's what I've been doing, and I've used probably about 10 builds and have never had the problem you describe.
What folder is it?
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It's the MarsWare folder in the Programs folder. I still use that app outside of HTC Sense. The folder has been corrupted each time I've rest to WM.
-Bob-

Hmmm, is the file that keeps getting corrupt a file that you need access to with the Android system or the WM system?
If you have two memory card then I would keep the WM files separate or try a new build, I have never had the problem myself, if you want my build then let me know.

Sounds strange. I assume Android doesn't use that folder for anything, so it shouldn't affect it.
How much space do you have left on your card?

norodaigh said:
Many of the files on the droid folder will only be read by the WM OS system unless you hook into a PC.
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Do you hook your "Droid" up to the PC? I've been switching back to WM before connecting to my PC. Didn't want to mess up ActiveSync capabilities with WM.
-Bob-

rebecker said:
Do you hook your "Droid" up to the PC? I've been switching back to WM before connecting to my PC. Didn't want to mess up ActiveSync capabilities with WM.
-Bob-
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If you hook up droid to the pc then it won't mess up your activesync but thats not what i'm saying.
The folder which keeps getting corrupted, is it stored on the SD Card in its own folder or is it being stored under the ANDROID folder in the SD Card?
The only other way around this apart from carrying two sd cards around with you is to get the DUAL-BOOT loader onto your phone so even if you reset you should have full access to all file and folders.

johncmolyneux said:
Sounds strange. I assume Android doesn't use that folder for anything, so it shouldn't affect it.
How much space do you have left on your card?
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3.5gb of 16gb.

rebecker said:
3.5gb of 16gb.
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I don't know then mate. When you say you can restore the folder, does that mean you have a backup of it somewhere? If so, just rename the knackered one and restore the original again and maybe the knackered one will bear the brunt of the problem.
Not a fix, I know, but maybe a workround for now.

norodaigh said:
Hmmm, is the file that keeps getting corrupt a file that you need access to with the Android system or the WM system?
If you have two memory card then I would keep the WM files separate or try a new build, I have never had the problem myself, if you want my build then let me know.
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The files are only needed in WM. It's a weather program. Looks like I should buy another 16gb card for the Android.
I'm just starting with the Android thing, so ALL suggestions are appreciated. Where can I find your version?
Another question (since I have your attention ); the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know then mate. When you say you can restore the folder, does that mean you have a backup of it somewhere? If so, just rename the knackered one and restore the original again and maybe the knackered one will bear the brunt of the problem.
Not a fix, I know, but maybe a workround for now.
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Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I was doing a restore, but then deleting the damaged folder. I'll try leaving it on.
I think I should just buy another 16gb card and use it exclusively for the Android stuff.
-Bob-

rebecker said:
the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-
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I believe that the pls format is universal, but I don't know for sure that Android will read it correctly. I guess the obvious answer would be to try it and find out.
I've never been a big playlist fan, so I can't talk from experience.

rebecker said:
The files are only needed in WM. It's a weather program. Looks like I should buy another 16gb card for the Android.
I'm just starting with the Android thing, so ALL suggestions are appreciated. Where can I find your version?
Another question (since I have your attention ); the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-
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The Android build seems to dominate over WM for a couple of things, the music thingy is new to me but for apps like facebook etc android seems to dominate and there is not much you can do about it. I think the dual-boot loader is your best option as each OS will have a separate part of the SD card to work from, this is a theory but im not too sure otherwise, anyone else got any ideas about a bootloader?

hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2

kam333 said:
hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2
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Maybe you could even get some apps which will do what you need on the android system so you wont have to change back to WM again...that could be a possibility.

kam333 said:
hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2
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WeatherPanel is the issue for me too. I'll reinstall it to the main memory and see what happens. Thanks for your reply.
-Bob-

norodaigh said:
Maybe you could even get some apps which will do what you need on the android system so you wont have to change back to WM again...that could be a possibility.
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I suspect a couple weeks with Android and I'll make it permanent. Right now I'm traveling, so I'm a bit less willing to drop my crutch (WM) right now.
I am also VERY impressed with all the help on this forum. It'll make the transition much less painful.
Thanks.
-Bob-

Sync your HD2 WP7 with u'r PC

Hello u all =)
I'm so happy that this day has allready came
and im holding my HTC HD2 with Windows phone 7
Like the others maybe i still dont know much b'out it
and i have many many Question
And along with that, for every Question i will find an Answer ill post it here =)
So B'out that Sync with u'r comp
i didnt really read much =)
just opened the microsoft wp7 site and the text that says " Zune Software " poped in to my eyes, i had it ones Great Soft for music
so i installed it again =)
after install open the Zune Software there click on "DEVICE"
and it will do the job Automaticly.
Then click on Sync options to do what u need i clicked on "ALL"
it syncs every thing u have on u'r phone ( i think )
DONE my friends thats all i know right now =)
I have many Q. too now opened =)
how to install other files
not only Pictures music and Videos =)
but how to browse the SD in the wp7 )
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Download Zune software : http://www.zune.net/en-US/products/software/download/default.htm

Download TouchXplorer.xab mate

[Q] Ok, Im hardresetting my HD2, what OS and what should programs should I install?

I have had my HD2 for about a year now and are going to hard reset it for the 3rd time. I am not very fund of Manila, and have been using the SPB Mobile Shell until now (love the flexability). However now that I am resetting it once more, what is the must have installations for music, video and performance, and most important, which OS to go for? Should I try to gingerbread it and go Android, or is there Win7 possibilities?
Any advice appreciated!

WinMo7 is possible but I would go for Energy 6.5.5 29xxx builds, they have non sence builds with android style homescreen so may have something of interest.
I find sense with CHT mod hard to beat myself & well setup wm6.5.5 is hard to beat in all round professional use.
For video coreplayer, music (i use HTC sence player) but pocket player is very good.
If serious on Android I would recommend try a native device for a while to see if you really like it !

Mister B said:
WinMo7 is possible but I would go for Energy 6.5.5 29xxx builds, they have non sence builds with android style homescreen so may have something of interest.
I find sense with CHT mod hard to beat myself & well setup wm6.5.5 is hard to beat in all round professional use.
For video coreplayer, music (i use HTC sence player) but pocket player is very good.
If serious on Android I would recommend try a native device for a while to see if you really like it !
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Thanks for the reply. The reason for thinking of converting to android was basically due to apps and such, but is really not a must. I've seen a few vids on youtube of how to convert to WinMo7 and Android, and it looks pretty straight forward, however if something goes wrong, could you easily go back to the original setup?
Also, I've seen some vids of the energy 6.5.5 setup, and it looks like the standard HTC theme, with some added possibilities for shortcuts etc. However, if this is manly the only reason I am pretty sure I would rather continue to use SPB Mobile Shell.

I too was a WinMo fan for years and only started on Android for fun, didnt expect to migrate. I started of just booting it now and again via SD card from widows untill I realised I was using it more and more till the point where it was automatically booting after windows on startup via bootloader.
Now ive been using Android non-stop for about a year first on my blackstone (HD1) and now on my Leo (HD2).
I honestly think you should just go the Android route on your device and leave WM6.5 behind like the rest of us. You can even use SPB Mobile shell on there if you like (leaked version) that way you still have same experience you had before but with all the apps/games of android.
And yes, to answer your question is extremely easy to go back if you change your mind. To revert everything you simply flash WM6.5 rom back on via tri-color bootloader (hold vol down and press power).

The posts above have given you very good sound advice. The only thing I want to add is before going completely Andriod with a NAND ROM. Try a Andriod SD card build first to see if you really want to go full on Andriod.

@ TheATHEiST, thanks. Thats the sort of advice I was looking for
@ T-Macgnolia, Sounds very vice to try a SD version first. I am currently using a SanDisk 16GB HC card, but I think it is pretty slow compared to the faster ones (judging from the price I paid).
By doing android via SD card, what is the easiest route for installing? Seen so many different guides, hard to know which work best.

mikkeltysland said:
@ TheATHEiST, thanks. Thats the sort of advice I was looking for
@ T-Macgnolia, Sounds very vice to try a SD version first. I am currently using a SanDisk 16GB HC card, but I think it is pretty slow compared to the faster ones (judging from the price I paid).
By doing android via SD card, what is the easiest route for installing? Seen so many different guides, hard to know which work best.
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If you have the 16GB SD card that comes with the T-Mobile HD2 it works great, this is the card I use for my SD Andriod build. All SD Andriod builds are the same, all you do is download the build, extract the zip file, (most builds create and extract to a folder named Andriod) copy the Andriodine folder to theroot of your SD card, then use the file explorer to open the Andriod folder and touch on CLCAD first to enable the sound in Andriod (it will appear as nothing appended but that is normal), then touch on HARET and you will see a box that says "Booting Leniux" then you will see a black screen with tiny writting at the top left corner of the phone screen then you will see the black screen with HTC in green then the screen will go completely black for a bit (some builds have a custom s reengineering for here so it may be different), last you will see the lock screen for the Andriod and you are booted and ready to go. Remember the first boot can take up to five to ten minutes so be patient but the .pot up time will not be that long after the first time.

Ok, dosent seems like its too diffucult then. The SD card that came with the phone only had 2GB storage capacity so I bought the 16GB straight away. Do I need to do a backup on the SD card? I have alot of photos etc. Also, I probably need a radio update (not that I've managed to understand what the radio is, except it does not play music ^^,)?

mikkeltysland said:
Ok, dosent seems like its too diffucult then. The SD card that came with the phone only had 2GB storage capacity so I bought the 16GB straight away. Do I need to do a backup on the SD card? I have alot of photos etc. Also, I probably need a radio update (not that I've managed to understand what the radio is, except it does not play music ^^,)?
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Yes I highly recomend making a back up copy of your SD card as the Adriod is going to make several folders and things on your SD card on the first bootup. This way you will know what was on there before you booted Andriod. I also suggest you flash radio version 2.15.50.14 as it is the latest radio version and it works good with Andriod be it SD or NAND. The radio is whaf controls certain aspects like your phone reception, voice quality, and such. Go the the master radio threadcthat is stickied in the HD2 Windows Mobile development forum here on XDA to learn more about it and you can download that radio version to flash there.

T-Macgnolia said:
Yes I highly recomend making a back up copy of your SD card as the Adriod is going to make several folders and things on your SD card on the first bootup. This way you will know what was on there before you booted Andriod. I also suggest you flash radio version 2.15.50.14 as it is the latest radio version and it works good with Andriod be it SD or NAND. The radio is whaf controls certain aspects like your phone reception, voice quality, and such. Go the the master radio threadcthat is stickied in the HD2 Windows Mobile development forum here on XDA to learn more about it and you can download that radio version to flash there.
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Ok, thaks alot for the help. I will give it a try after I backup the SD card. Any particular SD-card Android version you recommend?
edit: I found this list http://android.hd2roms.com/
Besides from knowing I want a SD version I am not sure which I should try. Just go for the one that was updated most recently?

mikkeltysland said:
Ok, thaks alot for the help. I will give it a try after I backup the SD card. Any particular SD-card Android version you recommend?
edit: I found this list http://android.hd2roms.com/
Besides from knowing I want a SD version I am not sure which I should try. Just go for the one that was updated most recently?
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I do not have a particular build I woulx recomend as the ons I currentky use is discontinued but go to the link below and search through tbe builds I am sure you will find one uou like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735k
You might want to check out some dual boot apps to like the one I havs linked below. I use the secound one.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/rundroid-dual-boot-to-android-sd-or-windows-mobile-6/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
There is a lot more of these apps out too if you want to look.

Thanks for all the help. I found a good guide and a decent build. Was really easy in the end
Only thing I struggeling with now is getting the 3G to work..

mikkeltysland said:
Thanks for all the help. I found a good guide and a decent build. Was really easy in the end
Only thing I struggeling with now is getting the 3G to work..
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Do you have a active data connection at all? If you have one then the APN is set for your carrier but if you do not then you will have to set up your APN settings. I do appologize as the only APN settings I know is the ones for US T-Mobile.So unless house are a US T-Mobile customer I do not know them. You can probabky Google your carrier or search g their web site and find the APN you need to enter. In Andriod go to Settings/Wireless and Networks/ Wireless connection (I think doing this from memory here) then touch on APN then press the Windows hard Start button and touchon add.

Android is the best

[Q] Is there an easier way with Zune?

Good morning all, I have tried a number of differing WP7 ROM's and am happy staying on WP7 but when I switch ROMs is there an easier way of transferring music, videos, photos etc through Zune rather than having to select each item or group and drag them?
In essence, is there a way to save the collection from the phone prior to changing ROM and then simply revert the collection to the new ROM?
I have tried to find and search but could not find a solution to this, I thank you any and all respondents in advance and will of course do so upon resolution too.
Thank you and personally I am loving the work that not only XDA Developers do but hugely the WP7 guys too.
Cheers

I have all the media I want on my phone in folders on my computer... After a rom flash or hard reset I just drag and drop the folders... Namely Video, Music & Pictures... Just 3 drag and drops...

argentocruz said:
...Just 3 drag and drops...
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Hi, yes, that's how I used to do it but it doesn't seem to work the same with Zune and WP7 as it would with MediaPlayer and 6.5 or Android (unless I am missing a basic setting)....thank you though, your answer is much appreciated

I don't know if it will do music but windows phone device manager will soon have a backup function, its going to beta first, once its out to us I'll try it out an post back
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App test

...that sounds interesting, thank you

[ROM] mido-midoV5-7740-ported app-Isharing-full unlock-Multilang||personal rom||

hello....
i'm a member of PWPD....(persian windows phone developers...)
i'm going straight to the points...
this is a personal rom which i use on my phone....
i changed somethings...which you may think it's strange...
i think that it's not a bad idea sharing it with you...
and here is the features...
FEATURES:
-Full unlock
-install xap through IE...
-Ability to run all WM poerted apps...(like opera mini and opera mobile)
-ability to run Xbox live games with out hacking.
-ability to run Advance config,reg editor,touch xplorer and ETC....
-changed HTC logo with my personal logo...
-custom themes and accent...
-debug through VS available.
-i just remove HTC HUB,Location,connected media....(to make the rom lighter and faster...)
-delivery reports defaults on...
-and some major and minor tweaks...
-22 language...
-internet sharing...
just added reg editor,touch xplorer,sound enhancer,attentive phone is in the rom....
there is no other app in rom...so you can taste what the real speed means..
here is the download links:
part 1:
Code:
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?4tgoayjibczgvgi"]http://www.mediafire.com/?4tgoayjibczgvgi[/URL]
part 2:
Code:
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?68in03sydbqjv3e"]http://www.mediafire.com/?68in03sydbqjv3e[/URL]
notes:
-if zune shows you an update i recommend that you don't update....i won't take any responsibilities for that...
-after installing this rom just turn off the phone...and turn it on...after that connection setup will automatically run...if it keeps running after each restarts just let me know of it...
phones setting>>about:
OS version: 7.10.7740.16
Firmware reversion number:2250.21.51.mido-mido
screen shots will be added....soon...
(edited: screen shots added...)
for logs and bug see post#2....there is no logs at the moment...cause there is no update for this rom...(at the moment)
Thanks to:
DFT

bugs reported(solution in the () ):
-themes names are the same in all languages except english....(will be fixed in the next version...just need some translators...)
-connection setup runs every time the phone restarts....(save your setting...uninstall it...simple...)
Goals:
-adding static mac to wifi....
-adding 8107 update to rom....
logs will go here....

what language are inside?

fulat said:
what language are inside?
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these:
USA_ENG_FRA_ITA_GER_ESN_NLD_DAN_FIN_NOR_SVE_PTB_ PTG_RUS_ELL_HUN_CSY_PLK English_Britain_France_Italy_Germany_Spain_Poland_ Czech_Hungary_Denmark_Finland_Netherlands_Sweden_N orway_Brazil_Portuguese_Greece_Russia_Traditional Chinese_Simplified Chinese_Japanese_Korean

ops... 2 rar files... so total is 325mb+. sorry

fulat said:
wat?! with so many language inside and ya ROM only around 200MB+?? what you removed?
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it's not 200+...it's 316 in rar...and 382 unrar...
i just remove those apps that i don't need...

can provide what are the apps which u removed?

fulat said:
can provide what are the apps which u removed?
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HTC HUB,Conneted media,location....all of them are from HTC...you can download them from market place...

list of error:-
1. email display format all html code. can you fix it back to the normal email display? (master reset solved the problem)

fulat said:
list of error:-
1. email display format all html code. can you fix it back to the normal email display?
2. connect to zune it prompt me for HTC driver update. i believe u missed update so HTC driver update.
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1-could you give me a pic from your email so i can see what's the problem???cause i don't have much email in my inbox....specially the oe with HTML code...
or you can send me an email...my email is:
[email protected]
if you send the email that have HTML it'll be gr8...
2-note number one...i told it...it will shows you an update....(read note number 1i think i missed a reg back there...
is there any bugs or error???
edit:by the way...tnx for giving the errors and bugs...

well... after 18 hours of tested. on HD7 with 32GB. your ROM seems to be working very fine. its stable. xboxlive games work, xap IE install works. its a nice ROM but... its not the fastest...
i have compared yours ROM with Nexgent+ 2.1Full side by side running certain games and app and found Nexgent+ is a bit faster.
and also u have the advantage of more asian's language included. and for sure this will be a big advantage for your ROM.

fulat said:
well... after 18 hours of tested. on HD7 with 32GB. your ROM seems to be working very fine. its stable. xboxlive games work, xap IE install works. its a nice ROM but... its not the fastest...
i have compared yours ROM with Nexgent+ 2.1Full side by side running certain games and app and found Nexgent+ is a bit faster.
and also u have the advantage of more asian's language included. and for sure this will be a big advantage for your ROM.
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1st of all thanks for testing....it really means a lot to me...
well...for the speed....Zloy Pryanik is a gr8 cooker....and his rom is gr8...i know mine won't be faster....but it's good to hear that it was a bit faster...
i will work on the speed of my rom...and hopefully i will find a way to make it better....
it's good to hear that my rom is stable and fine and these thing...
thnaks you again for your testing and comments about my rom....it really helps me...

one last thing... i really do like the startup screen. can you make it better or can u make a CAB for me to put in anything i prefer?

fulat said:
one last thing... i really do like the startup screen. can you make it better or can u make a CAB for me to put in anything i prefer?
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i will work on the statrtup screen too....
but i can't make cab...i don't know how...sorry...
but you can add molog.bmp into windows dir....and i think you will have a second startup screen....
here is my logo...that i used in this rom...maybe some one likes it or want to change it...

What do you mean xbox live games don't need to be hacked? 0.o how do they work if they arent hacked? 0.o

Ability to run all WM poerted apps...(like opera mini)
Can you put up list and links of available apps?

22 language and internet sharing, like, try to download!

Badcam3 said:
What do you mean xbox live games don't need to be hacked? 0.o how do they work if they arent hacked? 0.o
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they were cracked before so you can install them on your phone( the .xap files...)
but now if you get the xbox live game from any software that gets apps from market place you can install them on ypur phone...no crack or changing in the game needed...
hardik_hrc said:
Ability to run all WM poerted apps...(like opera mini)
there are to apps that is portes...opera mini and opera mobile...
Can you put up list and links of available apps?
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there are to apps that is portes...opera mini and opera mobile...
click on the name of the app....

opera mobile tested on mido-mido rom...and works...

Connection setup runs everytime I start it.