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Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.
please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD
It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.
Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.
The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.
I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !
I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.
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I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !
And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.
First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new
The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...
Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.
I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.
Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.
@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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Just read this. Sony Xperia S will NOT be getting JB, no surpise seeing Sony's support on a new phone that is not that old getting the boot after ICS...... thats... pathetic in my opinion. No word on Xperia PLAY (and dont go off on a rant, I personally DO NOT care about ICS/JB... sitting just fine with my gaming on GB)
I am merely making this known to everyone.... and for Xperia S users.... if I were you I would be pissing on Sony's front door......
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/27/sony-jelly-bean-update-for-xperia-handsets/
EDIT: I have to share this... funny as hell..... a comment from the above link..
JCMorgan 31 minutes ago
Sony can taste my Jelly balls. Knock off jelly beans.
EDIT: 7/30 - Sony confirms NO JB for Xperia S... Sony you suck a pair a sweaty monkey balls.....
CONFIRMED: $ony Xperia S NOT getting JB.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-definitely-not-coming-to-some-2011-handsets/
Doesn't specifically say about the Xperia S not getting the update, they're more on about the 2011 phones.
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Doesn't specifically say about the Xperia S not getting the update, they're more on about the 2011 phones.
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No offense but did you read the article? Its not that long. Last two sentences were...
"Meanwhile, he also stated there's nothing buttery in the works for the elegant Xperia S, though he did say "ICS should now be approved" for the device. Perhaps this is a sign it's time to start looking for an upgrade, no?"
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No offense but did you read the article? Its not that long. Last two sentences were...
"Meanwhile, he also stated there's nothing buttery in the works for the elegant Xperia S, though he did say "ICS should now be approved" for the device. Perhaps this is a sign it's time to start looking for an upgrade, no?"
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Given how slow they are, not even releasing phones with ICS from stock in my country, and phones are still waiting on their ICS update, you can't take that as "Xperia S won't be getting JB"
Imo no flash support on JB makes it terrible (for my use anyway) because that was always something that android had over ios. And Yeah i watch a lot of football matches off streams which requires flash player.
Im still happy with GB on the Xperia Play everything is fine and working.
I love this phone and it'll take something really special for me to replace the Xperia Play.
S6? No iPhone 9?No Xp2? Of course
You can still use flash on JB
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No offense but did you read the article? Its not that long. Last two sentences were...
"Meanwhile, he also stated there's nothing buttery in the works for the elegant Xperia S, though he did say "ICS should now be approved" for the device. Perhaps this is a sign it's time to start looking for an upgrade, no?"
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To be fair, to me that sounded like it getting JB with the project butter feature missing.
If it doesn't get it though, that's just terrible, even the Sony fanboy in me think's that's complete BS!
You can?
If we didn't get ICS, what would make you think we would get JB?
The only thing left to do is showing sony how you appreciate their update philosophy and stop buying their crap.
The play will have been my last sony phone for sure. I wouldn't risk to buy another Sony phone, just to find out the next android version won't be coming to my phone, because sony can't be bothered to keep their customers happy.
How long have those new Xperias been out, 3 months at best? Already they make you feel stupid for making the choice to get one of these
Haha lol,
Xperia 2011 won't get it official but xperia s will.
That's a promise they maked to google
And don't say xperia 2011 needs to get it, it won't. HTC and Samsung are just the same.
They say they are fixing ics bugs first. They don't say: xperia s won't get it!!!
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When I read the words 'buttery' in the last two sentences but that the ics update should be out soon. That tells me that the 'nothing buttery in the works' tells me.... no project butter....hence no JB.
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When I read the words 'buttery' in the last two sentences but that the ics update should be out soon. That tells me that the 'nothing buttery in the works' tells me.... no project butter....hence no JB.
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Oh, I agree that it's saying no JB, but I'd like to think it's not JB YET, which given how slow Sony are (Their phones are still being sold with GB!) and some phones still haven't got their ICS update.
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You can?
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Sideload it and it should work
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Good point. If Sony doesn't releemase of the excellent devs here can
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yeah m as i expected !
that was obviously clear the sony will support its phone just for 1 year !
but i just can't understand,why sony is persist on so many phone with same design ( xperia s, p , u, ... ) and persist on " no xperia play 2 "
is that really worth for sony to reject our request ?!!!
Ahh maybe I should get a Galaxy Nexus :/
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You can still use flash on JB
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No you cant, the webkit core has it specifically removed. If you sideload flash then you MIGHT get flash support with a fully alternative render engine like Opera Mobile, but for legal reasons they will probably block it too.
I dont really care about embedded flash either, if a site is still using SWF or FLV containters instead of HTML5 standards then they deserve to be left behind. YouTube moved from Flash to HTML5 over a year ago, many sites have since.
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They also promises ICS for the play. I agree that the article says clearly that Sony Mobile has no plans for JB on Xperia S.... it was a flagship phone and should have been left a prototype IMO. NXT series my ass....
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No you cant, the webkit core has it specifically removed. If you sideload flash then you MIGHT get flash support with a fully alternative render engine like Opera Mobile, but for legal reasons they will probably block it too.
I dont really care about embedded flash either, if a site is still using SWF or FLV containters instead of HTML5 standards then they deserve to be left behind. YouTube moved from Flash to HTML5 over a year ago, many sites have since.
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Are you sure? Ive read some comments from jellybean users saying that flash worked for them
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My sources tell me that the Usa version of Xperia z will carry the new snapdragon 600 series !! That's why it didn't come out Jan or Feb and there releasing it Q2 and it makes total sense cause if it didnt have the new and improved 600 series snapdragon they should of released it q1 to not have any losses during all of quarter one but it makes sense why there there waiting for Q2.. whoopie .... Thanks Sony for using the new 600 series on the Usa version of Xperia z I'm glad I didn't try and buy a different phone now in quarter 1when I had an upgrade available ..
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why would only the US version of the Xperia Z get the new chipset?
your souces sound false.
Sv: Leak **** leak xperia z
That would be rather odd, if that was the case.. I'd like to see that, before I believe it. Would be the poorest marketing move of Sony yet..
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Delaying launch will only hamper sales as new competition will be out then... surely Sony never want that
Where is Spectre51.. he has a good insider to I believe
Yeah it's likely less than 1% true if you ask me. Although I would have believed it if it were samsung or htc but sony? Nah! Not gonna happen even if it would be the end of the world
No info on the different CPU part of the original topic. Highly doubtful.
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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.
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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.
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Exactly if they wanted to make sales and have ZERO losses at all period it would of released already globally but it didnt cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet also hasn't given out any details regarding it there waiting FOR 21 to announce everything ...at that big show and they will use the new 600 series as the marketING scheme to get people to buy it.. I mean lets be total seriously here if its not gone have 600 series it would be released already GLOBALLY !!!!! It would have been the smartest choice to realease the best phone in Q1 before other great phones come OUT they would have had an entire quarter all to themselves for people to buy there phone but they can't so there waiting til Q2 when they have enough supplies of the 600 series to realease the phone with.
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cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet
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Not quite. There is another reason it isn't out yet but I can't talk about that yet. I wouldn't expect any hardware changes.
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They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.
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They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.
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Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.
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Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA
amerikian said:
Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA
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Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Knowing the usual AT&T delay from Sony it'll probably be late April or May (pure speculation).
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Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Nothing as far as hardware goes.
amerikian said:
Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Awesome AT&T branding everywhere, if that's your thing
Hi guys just came across an array of rumors that point to Xperia Z being superseded as early as July this year.
Just want to know what your thoughts are. As a Xperia Z owner I feel robbed and disapointed that Sony would do such a thing and didn't any one learn from the mistakes of the HTC One X+ vs HTC One X+
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-sony-dangerously-takes-leaf-out-of.html
20MP Cyber-shot CMOS sensor with Carl Zeiss lens
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Actually I don't belive this. Also "Togari" will/should be (IF!) based within Samsung Note class phones.
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Actually I don't belive this. Also "Togari" will/should be (IF!) based within Samsung Note class phones.
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I don't WANT to believe this
I would hate Sony for that!
Exactly, I'm not keen on dropping $999 (nzd) on a phone just to have it be replaced by as better phone 4 months after buying
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Get over it boys.
That sony do to me 2011 and 2012 year. So for know i waiting to see what to buy.
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Hi guys just came across an array of rumors that point to Xperia Z being superseded as early as July this year.
Just want to know what your thoughts are. As a Xperia Z owner I feel robbed and disapointed that Sony would do such a thing and didn't any one learn from the mistakes of the HTC One X+ vs HTC One X+
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-sony-dangerously-takes-leaf-out-of.html
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Only one more flagship will be released this year... With snapdragon 800 processor.. camera is all speculation.... Well... Its very much like xperia s to xperia T evolution which happened last year... Xz will get next android update soon ...i.e. 4.2.2 but beyond that i.e. 4.3 jelly bean... it will get at last... Just like XS is getting jelly bean at last...
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Then Have I mis-understood the meaning of the word Flagship OR has Sony never once called the Xperia Z their flaghip and was that the medias doing?
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Members we can rumor the rumors all day, but lets not....Thanks.