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ICS update delayed... Won't come OTA

Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.

please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD

It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.

Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.

The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.

I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.

Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

sufy1000 said:
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess

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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !

I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....

You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?

romcio47 said:
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now

I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.

Hogwarts said:
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?

Logseman said:
So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !

And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.

First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...

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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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Android 5.0 , coming to the xperia Play?

I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new

The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...

Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.

I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.

Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.

crono141 said:
Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.

@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.

I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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There's still hope.

http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-ac...bean-devices?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Sony may give us jellybean.
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We may get it after all, I don't think we will though

who cares we allready got an impressive custom mod - alpha of jb...

Motawa88 said:
who cares we allready got an impressive custom mod - alpha of jb...
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Me. Cause I want to play games with the gamepad and have jellybean at the same time. Games like dead trigger.
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Is Jellybean better than Gingerbread in terms of memory/ram usage ?
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Maybe, but highly unlikely. I fear Sony may just get lazy and say 4.1 may screw up the PLAY just like the ICS, but look at the custom roms we have now like markphyton's rom. The developers were probably too lazy.

Some people don't realize that some people don't want to root or unlock their bootloaders, so stop saying sh1t like "get a ROM".

The only way to make every1 get a taste of everything here is to create an .ftf file that could be flash using flashtool. But there's no guide as how to make a .sin file so it could be bundle to be an .ftf file. If there is every1 can run custom rom, custom kernel n overclock their play. So until the methods to make a .sin file be discovered we just need to keep unlock our BL n root our Play. What a drag...
Kindly Hit Thanks Button if i've help u in any way.

The funny thing is, there will be as much support for games as there is on ics. So games that don't work on ics won't work on jb. And sony will do what they did with ics, if you want it then unlock or get lost. But in all seriousness, you're living in a dream if you think the play will get jb officially.

Sony Mobile - Episode 2
A New Hope
<Queue starwars puns>​
Nah, as much as I would likes me some official support, at the same time, running a custom rom (JBX) will be quicker anyways. (Release dates and performance). I don't support sony, but i support our devs.

cotda said:
Sony Mobile - Episode 2
A New Hope
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Nah, as much as I would likes me some official support, at the same time, running a custom rom (JBX) will be quicker anyways. (Release dates and performance). I don't support sony, but i support our devs.
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True, but with Sony we will always get true touchpad support.

When is it gonna get released ?
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i gave up the play a few months ago (cm10 will be my last project)
I don't care if sony give the play jb or not.
and for the post above: maybe never!
nobody knows, even sony not

Stop kidding yourself people. Sony won't ever update the PLAY, even with minor GB updates.
They abandoned it after buying out SE and becoming Sony Mobile.

never
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[NEWS] Sony says Android 4.1 Jelly Bean plans for 2011 handsets were an “error”

Sony says Android 4.1 Jelly Bean plans for 2011 handsets were an “error”
From XperiaBlog post @ LINK
Original post @ Sony Mobile Blog HERE
So what do you think guys, Sony by saying "all" seems to lock them again into a promise they can't possibly break the third time and further piss all pissed Xperia users again.
Are you guys hoping for a possible Jelly Bean update at least to the Xperia PLAY?
Let us know through your comments!

I just hope they don't disappoint again !
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I believe they wont give us the jb update. Jb is an upgrade of ics. Hahahay. Getting hopeless with my xperia play stuck in my cabinet.
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From where did you read JB is an upgrade to ICS? :laugh:
All I read was that JB was to bring in more performance in addition to ICS features, so that basically means you don't need to be on ICS to have JB.
Think of it as GB=WindowsXP; ICS=WindowsVista; and JB=Windows7:
GB is fast but looks like turd, ICS looks awesome but slow, and JB looks awesome but fast. From that analogy, you can always upgrade from XP straight to Se7en, thus, you can always upgrade from GB to JB granting the manufacturer grants it.

Already posted.
Post # 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800195&page=3
But, probably should have made it a seperate thread to make it easier to find.

narflynn619 said:
From where did you read JB is an upgrade to ICS? :laugh:
All I read was that JB was to bring in more performance in addition to ICS features, so that basically means you don't need to be on ICS to have JB.
Think of it as GB=WindowsXP; ICS=WindowsVista; and JB=Windows7:
GB is fast but looks like turd, ICS looks awesome but slow, and JB looks awesome but fast. From that analogy, you can always upgrade from XP straight to Se7en, thus, you can always upgrade from GB to JB granting the manufacturer grants it.
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He's more on about the reasons of why Xperia Play didn't get ICS, gaming compatibility, JB won't change that, just adds to the problem of fragmentation.
Hardware/Software that's not supported in Vista wouldn't suddenly work in Windows 7.
Ending point is Google need to enforce some damn policies to stop the android fragmentation, I mean Sony launching phones in 2012 with GB is unforgivable.

Nah there we'l be no official jb for play...maybe other xperia phones but not the play so don't be getting your hopes up

Well. The devs of this forum managed to get touchpads to work properly on ics. So, I think that we should get an official update. If the dev's can make a stable rom with working touchpads, then sony can too! It will also perform a lot better on JB. We should make a petition!

Potato13 said:
Well. The devs of this forum managed to get touchpads to work properly on ics. So, I think that we should get an official update. If the dev's can make a stable rom with working touchpads, then sony can too! It will also perform a lot better on JB. We should make a petition!
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The ICS update was killed because games for our phone our NOT updated to work with ICS. We can thank the likes of GameLoft, EA, etc....
ICS was NOT killed because Sony couldnt figure out how to get touchpads working on ICS....... it was all because of poor gaming performance due to non-updated games.

jgregoryj1 said:
The ICS update was killed because games for our phone our NOT updated to work with ICS. We can thank the likes of GameLoft, EA, etc....
ICS was NOT killed because Sony couldnt figure out how to get touchpads working on ICS....... it was all because of poor gaming performance due to non-updated games.
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Aha ! good point
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no way
no hope on somy anymore
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no way
no hope on somy anymore

Yeah, we won't get ics, no hope for jb.
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Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)

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Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)
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Haha.......turd......
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narflynn619 said:
Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)
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I think it's a little rash to assume that because Sony use the word "all" they actually mean all of them. What are they supposed to say, "all but the Xperia Play?" Or maybe list out every single phone that they actually plan on still supporting? All they have to do is say, "Well, sorry guys, we tried, but we didn't guarantee that it would work in the first place."
Honestly, stop expecting/hoping Sony to support this phone in an official manner and support the people in the community that have already done much more than Sony was willing to.

Sony should have at least released a finished version of ICS to us devs here but no.... they were scared away by not as many games working on ICS..... Well guess what? It's My phone and I should decide if I want the upgrade. Not someone else. As for JB, they should have at least come out and said "no we won't upgrade X phones". It would get us mad but not mad upset and angry for taking our hopes away...

I think the xperia play, can have jelly beam because jelly beam has more fluid that ics

That magic word "ALL" is for all Sony phones. Play is SE so don't count.
My missis has Experia Arc and guess what no ICS there either bur Arc S has...

What Sony doesn't realize is, if this gets jb, or even ics, the sales will go WAY up! That means more game companies will update! And they can ALWAYS have a
"we cannot guarantee a solid gaming environment, or that pre owned games will continue to run on your xperia play. Clicking 'I accept' will continue the update."
I would update! All I care about is minecraft (which is still gonna update) and emulators!
Point is, Sony is being stupid. We need to tell them that we want a nice, clean update, and that the game makers will follow their suit. And even if they don't, others will MAKE MORE GAMES! The ONLY thing I want other than jelly bean in general is more app space.

I'm pretty sure Sony will come in for us. I'm running a JB Rom and all games work fine. Sony just needs to work harder. Also yes minecraft does update more frequently now so yes they would add support for 4.0+
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Latest news Xperia Z will Receive 4.3 as well 4.4 too

Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
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Question is, when are they going to release the update?

I like it....
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davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4

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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...

pietrucci said:
Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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kingvortex said:
Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...

pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.

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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.

Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.

andyukking said:
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.

davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.

Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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