First, let my apologize if I posted this in the wrong place. I am new and just rooted my epic 4G today for the first time with my friend's help.
I have CM7 and was trying to overclock my phone to see how fast it would go, most of what I've tried has only let my set it to 1000. My friend tells me if I can find something called "Titmat 2.6" it should let me boost to up to 2000. Google keeps telling me it's called Tiamat, but I see titmat used for the Evo 3D. It just so happens, that's my friend's phone aswell. Is there a copy of Titmat for my Epic 4G (non touch) that someone might be able to provide a link to? Or if not, is there another kernel you recommend for my phone? Any help would be appreciated. Again, I apologize for my newbness. :\
What you need is one of the cm7 kernels from over in development section. Shadow and Samurai are good. Then get voltage control from the market to over clock. You aren't going to get 2000 though. Samurai is 1500 I think and shadow is 1400.
Tiamat is a kernel for another phone.
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You nor your friend should be overclocking. You both seem way to uneducated in it all and don't understand what you are actually doing, the negative effects, the way CPUs work, and the difference between phones. Overclocking is dangerous stuff...
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marcusant said:
You nor your friend should be overclocking. You both seem way to uneducated in it all and don't understand what you are actually doing, the negative effects, the way CPUs work, and the difference between phones. Overclocking is dangerous stuff...
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Damn marcusant lmfao don't discourage the people actually willing to learn...
But like marcusant said, its only for the evo 3d. Our phones use a different method to overclock.
If you take a stroll down to the epic 4g development section, you should see things like "cm7 kernel" in the title. Read each thread and see which kernel you like. Afterwards, just download voltage control from the marketplace and you should be able to overclock your phone
Most epics are stable upto 1.2Ghz, but some get lucky and are actually able to overclock to 1.4 and 1.5 with no ill side effects (I'm one of them )
Now, when you overclock, you're working it more than it was designed to. Fortunately, we have easily the best single core mobile processor out there right now on a mobile phone, so it can take it. However you also give it more power to run at these higher speeds so it heats up faster...and we all know what happens when silicon gets heated BUT with voltage control you can do something called "undervolting" which lowers the voltage-per-clockspeed aspect so to say. Its usually safe to undervolt by 50mV without any ill effects, but as with overclocking, some people can undervolt EVERY clock by 100mV or so (I'm not one of them.. ) I do not recommend attempting to undervolt unless you understand the risk/reward ratio fully. If you undervolt too much your phone will become corrupted, but if you do it one step at a time your phone will be super fast AND on a power diet
I recommend the shadow kernel. I haven't been on cm7 since cm9 dropped, but shadow kernel usually worked best for me.
If you have any questions I'll gladly help I will also be quick to note if a simple little search would've answered your question in a very condescending way. Fortunately your post is legit
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Marcusant is correct. Overclocking is not for the light hearted or newbies. It can damage your phone, make it unuseable if you do not know what you are doing or how to recover it. It is like adding a nitrous kit on a motorcycle for a new rider.
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Marcusant is correct. Overclocking is not for the light hearted or newbies. It can damage your phone, make it unuseable if you do not know what you are doing or how to recover it. It is like adding a nitrous kit on a motorcycle for a new rider.
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LOL isn't that why we're here to HELP?
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Or is it just me?
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LOL isn't that why we're here to HELP?
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I don't mind helping people root their phone or with problems installing or running ROMs but I do not encourage overclocking period. You know I am always here to help Fox.
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I don't mind helping people root their phone or with problems installing or running ROMs but I do not encourage overclocking period. You know I am always here to help Fox.
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When have you ever not helped?
IMO and purely my opinion its not as dangerous as most think to be I've ran my processor to the ground and its still chuggin can't be healthy playing n64oid at 1.5/1.5 for 2 hours straight . I've yet to hear of anyone frying these hummingbird processors..correct me if I'm wrong...anyways hopefully this doesn't start an argument please pm me if you want to "discuss" this.
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Samurai has a oc/uv apk with it. I am a noob when it comes to that stuff. but I keep mine about 800 because I don't use my phone at work. I only o/c when I am showing off my phone.
I never discourage learning. If someone understands the risk and likes to learn, they'll most likely learn something from that. Do we even have any confirmed reports of the epic bricking from overclocking?
Having said that, am I the only one who feels the phone works snappy enough w/o overclocking?
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I never discourage learning. If someone understands the risk and likes to learn, they'll most likely learn something from that. Do we even have any confirmed reports of the epic bricking from overclocking?
Having said that, am I the only one who feels the phone works snappy enough w/o overclocking?
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No I agree its fast as is. I only overclock to play games on it or when I feel its not fast enough browsing the web
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iil said:
I never discourage learning. If someone understands the risk and likes to learn, they'll most likely learn something from that. Do we even have any confirmed reports of the epic bricking from overclocking?
Having said that, am I the only one who feels the phone works snappy enough w/o overclocking?
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I think this kind of went off point. Yes the phone is totally snappy enough with OC. The point was the OP came here looking for something that is not for this phone to push the speed to 2Ghz because someone else told him about it. It wasn't a question about teaching them to overclock it is more an issue to teach him to research before flashing a kernel for a different phone.
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Wow..
Thanks for the advice guys. So my friend made me look like a jackass. It was Tiamat. Yeah, I understand that's just a special Kernal for his Evo 3D. I'm gonna look into Samurai and Shadow. I haven't read anything about any fatal damage from overclocking. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the phone just gets hotter and the battery dies faster. (correct me if I'm wrong) I have plenty of extra batteries because before EI22 my phones battery life was about 4 hours, without using it. So glad they patched that.
My $0.02...
1. Never heard of a hardbrick from overclocking with Hummingbird, phones will turn off and reboot before they get that hot. Most that would happen is data corruption, which is nothing a little Odin won't fix.
2. I would never use the titmat if that was what it was really called.
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I think he means Tiamot not titmat lol. But the epic will be faster than the evo 3d no matter what your friend overclocks it to. I used an evo 3d about a month ago and it was slow as hell and the screen sucked. The 3d isn't even 3d.
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samurai is dead for playing nice with other people's gpl code.
Titmat? in for pics.
I'm down with the titmat!
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Titmat? Sounds like a prank.
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1.28GHz IS NOT REAL
I know I posted it, and people have been running it. But after looking over the code more last night, I realized that I had been had. I took the word of another developer on the line for 1.28GHz, added it to my kernel, and it magically worked. After looking at it closer, whether intentional or not, he had the multiplier set at 0x1E(30), which is 1.152GHz. So even though it's reporting 1.28GHz, it's really running at 1.152GHz.
I've learned my lesson trusting someone else for what I should have looked into more closely, and I hope you all don't think worse of me for doing that. I apologize for leading people astray with this, but hey, at least I'm man enough to admit it.
Again, I really feel bad for misleading people on this, it's not in my nature to do that, ok maybe some, but not with something like this.
With that all said, I could do one showing maybe 4.71GHz, now that'd be awesome for screenshots. lol
Z
No worries. The cool thing is that my phone was actually mostly stable at 1.15 which was never really possible before. Usually i get freezes and bootloops. On yours the worse i got was an app quitting once in awhile.
no worries dude you did the right thing
So if I get up to 88 miles per hour my phone won't put out the 1.28 gigawatts to make me time travel? That's a shame.
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brownie points for coming clean
has anyone made a custom oc uv with the new .17 kernel yet?
EDIT: i feel dumb...didn't realize source wasn't out for the new kern.
I didn't use the kernel, but you doing this makes me (and hopefully everyone else) respect you even more as a developer.
jdkoreclipse release another ROM?...
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No worries. The cool thing is that my phone was actually mostly stable at 1.15 which was never really possible before. Usually i get freezes and bootloops. On yours the worse i got was an app quitting once in awhile.
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no worries dude you did the right thing
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brownie points for coming clean
has anyone made a custom oc uv with the new .17 kernel yet?
EDIT: i feel dumb...didn't realize source wasn't out for the new kern.
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I didn't use the kernel, but you doing this makes me (and hopefully everyone else) respect you even more as a developer.
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At least I'm getting the response I was hoping for, thank you all for understanding. I'll be re-doing all my kernels this evening. I may even do some capped at 2.6496GHz, that way people can play to see how high they really can go. Brownie points to anyone that figures out why I choose that freq. lol
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So if I get up to 88 miles per hour my phone won't put out the 1.28 gigawatts to make me time travel? That's a shame.
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Sorry dude, I was hoping for time travel myself, but for now, we're stuck in the present.
Z
Not a problem man, it wasn't like you were doing it on purpose. So all is good. We appreciate your work!
Makes sense. I tried it on the Feather ROM and was getting almost exactly the same performance/scores.
Much appreciated for coming clean and letting everyone know. I doubt anyone would hold it against you.
Z,
You are a good person for accepting the blame for somebody else's mistake. Either way your kernels are better than almost all others on the desire ports so I am sticking to them. Happy with the performance and it being stable at 1.152. Made me follow you on twitter.
2 other comments/questions:
1. did u take out the debug script that you had posted about on twitter? I did not see battery loss anyways...
2. I tried your incredible AOSP kernel on ultimate droid 1.0.0 but it turned the touch screen into unresponsive mode. Did dalvik wipe etc. Given that UD is like CM, I would have thought it would need an AOSP kernel but perhaps I was wrong. Could you please take a look at that?
Thanks and keep up the good work.
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1.28GHz IS NOT REAL
I know I posted it, and people have been running it. But after looking over the code more last night, I realized that I had been had. I took the word of another developer on the line for 1.28GHz, added it to my kernel, and it magically worked. After looking at it closer, whether intentional or not, he had the multiplier set at 0x1E(30), which is 1.152GHz. So even though it's reporting 1.28GHz, it's really running at 1.152GHz.
I've learned my lesson trusting someone else for what I should have looked into more closely, and I hope you all don't think worse of me for doing that. I apologize for leading people astray with this, but hey, at least I'm man enough to admit it.
Again, I really feel bad for misleading people on this, it's not in my nature to do that, ok maybe some, but not with something like this.
With that all said, I could do one showing maybe 4.71GHz, now that'd be awesome for screenshots. lol
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Placebo I love it, lol Hey thanks for clearing that up ziggy!!
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P.S. Can we get a placebo of over 9000!!!!! I kidd
Spider man
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Z,
You are a good person for accepting the blame for somebody else's mistake. .......
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I'm currently using the aosp kernel with shadow rom and it's working great. Just that slight battery drain with screen on is the only issue I have with it currently.
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I'm currently using the aosp kernel with shadow rom and it's working great. Just that slight battery drain with screen on is the only issue I have with it currently.
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I know what the problem is, and will try and post new kernels tonight.
So ID wanted a 9GHz kernel, should I do it just for grins???
Z
Hm. Will this be good with battery drain as well as a decent performer?
Much respect Ziggy, takes a real man to admit a gaff, even if it's not your gaff to own up to!
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haha... hows his ass taste?
sorry you fell right into that one
I hadn't heard of your kernels before this thread, but I'm giving the latest a try. I'm one of the lucky few that can run stable at 1.19 GHz, so 1.28 would have been insane.
The latest kernel is running great. The only issue I'm having, I can't connect to wifi file explorer. Anyone have any suggestions?
Without a doubt the Epic 4g is definitely the most impressive piece of hand-held hardware I have owned to date. I am a long time HTC user and I can promise I will [probably] never go back. There is no other phone on the market that I would rather have for the uses that I use it for. I made my decision wisely after a lot of research. So with that being said, why in the world is so many people so up in arms and worked up over not getting a 2.2 update? Do you really need flash that bad on your phone? If you're spending that much time using flash sites then why not man up and buy yourself a decent netbook? Seriously I don't understand. The only reason I have ever been upset that I didn't have flash was when I was unable to masturbate to my normal free porn site, and instead had to find a mobile version. An inconvenience, yes, but not to the extreme that I cursed samsung. Besides it's much better to have two hands free (for some of us anyway).
So what is it? You want to brag to the girls at the bar that your Epic can do more mflops than a Amsterdam prostitute? Someone please enlighten me here. My experience with 2.1 has been super smooth, responsive, and no app I can throw at will slow it down. In real world use what is the benefit of 2.2? Oh yeah it would be nice to have the new gmail app with the return/forward at the top instead of the bottom, true, but what else?
If you weren't tied to your phone's benchmark like it was the size of your peni$, what seriously is the Epic 2.1 lacking that a 2.2 update would fix?
edit: Keep an eye out for my new rom: Better than froyo. Completely Stock with madthumbs mobile bookmark baked in.
You want to brag to the girls at the bar that your Epic can do more mflops than a Amsterdam prostitute?
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People gotz to get their porn. You know, put all 4 inches to their full potential.
cuz the roll out of fR0yo promises 20% less sticky screen after a session of mobile masturbation and a online myspace gf!
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People gotz to get their porn. You know, put all 4 inches to their full potential.
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Ha!
Mikandi works on eclair and froyo )
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I wondered the same thing for a long time. If you need flash so bad then download the adobe flash app.
Now most of us are on the leaked froyo I'm seeing crap about gingerbread. What's so special about that is what I really wanna know.
I get mad lag on my stock 2.1 phone. This is my second Epic since launch and both lagged after about 12 hours of uptime.
I brought this phone in to Sprint and of course it decides to be all snappy for them. >:-| So my only hope is for the better task management FroYo offers will remedy the lag. That said, sure the lack of an update sucks, but I'm not sweating it.
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Fine, but seriously... lack of 2.2 is not what kills it for me on this phone... it's the damn screen that's calibrated like ass. Being a photographer, I just have to ask myself... who the f wants to stare at a screen that calibrated to a very cool temp?
2.2 won't help you there, but this will: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-universal-version-takes-aim-at-more-phones/#
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OMG! THANKS! If I was into man-love, I'd offer you free blowjob, but I'm not, so for now a simple thanks still suffice.
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Hmmm.... wonder if any Devs know if theres a way to adjust more advanced settings than RGB... thats great, but It would be nice to be able to ISF calibrate this thing, it does have amazing image potential. May even be able to set up profiles for outside, movie, the retarded 'sports' one, oh wait, think its on that... Set up to work well with the lighting at a Sprint store I would assume...
I'd like to be able to use the audio-out function of the expensive factory dock I bought. I'd also appreciate full voice command support.
There is more to Flash than just websites and video. Froyo also gives you the ability to run Adobe Air applications as well as run Flash content. I already have two Air apps that I've been working on that I will be putting on the market once I've got 2.2 on my Epic and can test them myself.
Not to mention that Google has been updating their core apps and some will now require 2.2. I, for one, don't relish the fact that a phone I bought 2 months ago can't run the latest apps.
And please don't tell me to install a custom ROM. I'm new to Android and this is my primary communication device for personal and business use. I'm not really ready to risk screwing it up just yet.
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Hmmm.... wonder if any Devs know if theres a way to adjust more advanced settings than RGB... thats great, but It would be nice to be able to ISF calibrate this thing, it does have amazing image potential. May even be able to set up profiles for outside, movie, the retarded 'sports' one, oh wait, think its on that... Set up to work well with the lighting at a Sprint store I would assume...
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I have an i1. We can't calibrate the phone..but I might be able to run the software via vnc to get a color temp.
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nicholishen said:
Besides it's much better to have two hands free (for some of us anyway).
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It should be noted that OP has very small hands.
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It should be noted that OP has very small hands.
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That's what scared me about upgrading to this massive phone. You ever seen that burger king commercial with the tiny hands? Kinda like that.
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There is more to Flash than just websites and video. Froyo also gives you the ability to run Adobe Air applications as well as run Flash content. I already have two Air apps that I've been working on that I will be putting on the market once I've got 2.2 on my Epic and can test them myself.
Not to mention that Google has been updating their core apps and some will now require 2.2. I, for one, don't relish the fact that a phone I bought 2 months ago can't run the latest apps.
And please don't tell me to install a custom ROM. I'm new to Android and this is my primary communication device for personal and business use. I'm not really ready to risk screwing it up just yet.
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I can see how it would be frustrating if you are using the epic as your only android device to develop on, but don't they have emulators?
I guess my op q was directed more at real world use. Personal and business uses. I've flashed several 2.2 Roms an Always end up back at baked snack for smoothness, reliability, and battery life. I punish this phone as an account executive. I just have never had a smooth experience with any of the 2.2
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The other day a friend of mine with the new Evo 3D told me that, even while the phone has a locked bootloader and no root, someone was able to overclock the phone to 1.8 Ghz...That's insane! It's 1.2 by default.
Ours is 1.0 of course, what do you think we could max it out at in the future, as more development happens on the phone down the road?
And for that matter, do you think we'd be able to see those "trickle" battery kernel things implemented at some point? I read about those some time ago and it seemed pretty awesome/great for battery life without being limited on usage.
What are some of your thoughts on our kernel-ish future?
Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
1.8ghz Evo3d is about equal with a 1.0ghz atrix lol
The Xoom Tegra 2's seem to be overclocking rather well.
1.5ghz looks like the sweet spot.
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Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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thebeardedchild said:
Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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I think he may be having trouble getting a bootable rom though. So hopefully it works out with his new kernel/magics. Read through his twitter a bit, some golden nugs in there
The moto XOOM, which has Tegra 2, is stable at 1.7 ghz
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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It all depends on the voltage.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the clock doesn't affect the heat of the chip, only the voltage does (which can change with the clock, but doesn't have to). So you can have a 1.2 ghz cpu running at 6mv and a 1.0 ghz cpu running at 6mv and they will run at the same temps (if I'm correct).
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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I have my Xoom stable at 1.6ghz. From what I've read, that seems to be pretty standard, some unlucky soles have to settle for 1.4 (or even less) but there's also a decent number of lucky ones who have it running stably 1.7ghz.
I've had my Atrix for a month or so now, and being international, can't unlock the bootloader (yet). Can't wait to see some custom ROMs/kernels!!
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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I say 1.5 is easy for us. Perhaps 1.7/1.8 can come at a later time, but I've seen Faux's kernel on the G2X for 1.5, and that just seems to be a sweet spot for Tegra2.
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The evo 3d is dual core though..
Edit: oh I see I accidentally said just evolution, sorry.
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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Dual coreeeeeee bro! Haha jk. Im sure Moto just doesn't want us having fun.
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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paravorheim said:
I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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Really, I've never seen such a forum where no matter what the topic, everyone wastes time bickering about terminology, or rules or blah.
im trying to get people thinking about possible ways to break past this 1.1 barrier. Or to decide right now if its even possible!
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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I don't see why not. The XOOM can do it. But im sure Moto put up some road blocks.
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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Yeah you're post isn't contributing well to this apparently poor community either. Like I said, if you haven't anything productive to say, gtfo. There's more to be done than to just wait for devs to magically do it. Us lowly non devs can still look into what can be done. What do you suggest we do in these forums if not to promote discussion of enhancements to our phone?
The point of this thread is to sort of take the pressure off the devs to figure it all out on their own.
If you're gonna wastes everyones time, we'd like you to kindly take your whining back to the aria forum or something..
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Whining stops now.
If you want to discuss getting a bounty together for overclocking beyond 1.1Ghz, by all means continue to do so.
Otherwise, this thread will be closed.
Heh hopefully if a mod says what I've been harping this whole time it sticks. Well, anyone think a bounty for this is worth it? Honestly, other dual core phones are almost to 2.0. If we're fast at 1.1 can you imagine more? I'm never content with where I'm at so I say we get this phone as high as it can.
That being said, one concern is that anything higher than 1.1 is physically impossible no matter how you cut it. Like I said other dual cores are oc'd high, but who knows how this thing is different!
The real question before bounty talks can be made is: can we determine if its possible? Were other phones in this situation?
I remember when faux initially discussed it, he made it sound like it was some simple code holding it back but I dunno really..
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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Those are good points. And yeah I probably worded that wrong, with the "simple line of code" thing, because now that you mention it that sounds TOO simple lol. I can't really remember what he said, but at the time it seemed less serious, as in 'the next version of my kernel would bypass it', ya know what I mean? But now here we are, still at 1.1. However, at the same time, the only guy really working on getting higher than 1.1 had halted his kernel progress to work on CM7, so I dunno. Perhaps a bounty would be good to get more devs in to take a look at it and see what to do.
And yeah it's a little reassuring to know that the Xoom did it, with essentially the same processor. Does anyone know if it had the same type of roadblock associated with it, where they couldn't OC much higher for a time?
From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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Yeah I'd be willing to donate as well, of course (a given, as I seem to be worrying about this too much anyways ).
I've wondered if, since faux announced that "barrier", if either him or anyone else has even attempted to look at what causes it. I'm not saying 'those lazy bastards!!!11!' or anything, but if that's the case I'd almost feel better since that explains why it hasn't been done yet. Otherwise, the longer they HAVE looked at it with no avail, the more likely it is we're stuck at 1.1
Maybe tinkering will help...I honestly thought it would help while they developed it in the first place, since like you said earlier, it seems like it's not a hardware thing so a new ROM could have helped...
Someone with coding knowledge should contact whoever made the xoom overclock.
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Remember that a phone is essentially a small computer. It's not just the CPU which is involved. Memory timings, voltages, and cooling all play a huge part in OC'ing a CPU. This may be where the problem lies. If the phone requires memory timings which make it extremely unstable/unuseable at an OC higher than 1.1GHz, then it will always be a no go, no matter how you look at it. Similarily, if you have to step up the voltage, you induce more heat, and there is no active cooling in a phone.
In essence, there are many reasons why the OC may have stopped at 1.1GHz. It seems people really need to understand overclocking overall before commenting on what is and is not possible.
There is also the chance that nobody has really looked at this as important because all the work has gone into creating CM7, etc. I would say OC'ing past 1.1GHz is low on the totem pole for the few devs who are capable of doing it.
kholk claims to be releasing a 1.2 kernal today, I believe lt to be for testing to make sure it works but we shall see.
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Hi, my name is Morgan and I'm a flashaholic. Thanks to Google, Sprint and Samsung I've become a raging flashaholic. Trying to get decent battery, fast UI, working GPS, and an overall stable phone, basically a working smartphone. I find a combo that runs well for a day, then rears its ugly head in the way of slowdown, crashes and or horrible battery life. I think it just comes down to the fact that this phone and network is half baked. Google doesn't fix their problems. They just add more and more features so that people don't notice the earlier bugs. I love all the devs out there trying to help, but there is a bigger problem at PLAY and it ain't just their app store
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its just you
kurigowa said:
Hi, my name is Morgan and I'm a flashaholic. Thanks to Google, Sprint and Samsung I've become a raging flashaholic. Trying to get decent battery, fast UI, working GPS, and an overall stable phone, basically a working smartphone. I find a combo that runs well for a day, then rears its ugly head in the way of slowdown, crashes and or horrible battery life. I think it just comes down to the fact that this phone and network is half baked. Google doesn't fix their problems. They just add more and more features so that people don't notice the earlier bugs. I love all the devs out there trying to help, but there is a bigger problem at PLAY and it ain't just their app store
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hmm.. the t132 kernels isnt a battery loving kernel, its for performance. try the trinity t11 or teuv kernels. they are much better on battery. also, try draining your battery all the way, delete your batterystats.bin file, reboot, then charge it all the way.
trinity t11 cm9 version http://www.box.com/s/14ac5dc5581f71830ada
trinity teuv cm9 version http://www.box.com/s/eb76fd024998a795119b
Thanks Simms! I've tried it all. Other ROMS, KERNELS, Scripts, tweaks. No disrespect to you and yours, you guys have been putting out some of the best stuff for a while now, i always end up back at Trinity. It's a love hate relationship. My phone and I just had an argument. Being all strung out on Skank messes with a mans sanity
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Thanks Simms! I've tried it all. Other ROMS, KERNELS, Scripts, tweaks. No disrespect to you and yours, you guys have been putting out some of the best stuff for a while now, i always end up back at Trinity. It's a love hate relationship. My phone and I just had an argument. Being all strung out on Skank messes with a mans sanity
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i think that thats your problem. how do you go flashing daily then skip a day? you probably stressed out your phone by denying it its fix. i know a flash(es) a day keeps my NS happy(rom once daily and kernels several times)
Sucks for you man cm9 ver 4 with math kid kernel works great for me
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Working great for me. Running CM9 stock everything.
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I used to feel the same...Turns out I was using a sub-par kernel.
I have been totally impressed with mine since I switched to MATR1X and started to learn more about governors and schedulers.
If someone handed me any another phone to use (pick one) It would sit in my junk drawer. I would still use my neXus.
Sorry your unhappy. Maybe switch to one of those HTC's for a few days, I'll see you when your back on the NS4G forum. Shouldn't take long.
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I'm confused as to what's going on here. Is there a question somewhere in the OP? Or did I just stumble across someone's blog?
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jesusice said:
I'm confused as to what's going on here. Is there a question somewhere in the OP? Or did I just stumble across someone's blog?
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This was posted in the general section. If you want me to ask a question I propose this, why are you such a turd?
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This was posted in the general section. If you want me to ask a question I propose this, why are you such a turd?
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Lol! Touche. Probably because I'd just gotten off work after taking escalation calls from other turds all day. I'm better after I get home and self medicate
But still, the OP could use some polish. It's confusing when it's all personal experience with no conclusion or question.
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Lol! Touche. Probably because I'd just gotten off work after taking escalation calls from other turds all day. I'm better after I get home and self medicate
But still, the OP could use some polish. It's confusing when it's all personal experience with no conclusion or question.
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I was self medicated when I wrote the original post, might have been why it lacked focus. Haha, appreciate the positive attitude, thanks for keeping it light