I have 3 different Android devices: a Nook Tablet, a Samsung Galaxy SII and the Atrix.
The Atrix is the only device I have OC'd and added a custom ROM. The other two are rooted, but stock.
Even though in most benchmarks my rooted Atrix, with a custom 1.45 GHz Kernel and optimized ROM (The Darkside) is almost equal or a bit superior to my SII, it feels slooow when I use them side by side. The Atrix takes some time loading the app screen, the touchscreen lags, and 3D games are definitely slower, no matter what benchmarks say.
Here's the strange thing. My bone-stock Nook, at 1 GHz, scores exactly the same in the Nenamarks 2 benchmark (24.8 fps). Both machines run games at pretty much the same speeds, even though the Nook has to move quite a bit more pixels, and that the Atrix is running 45% faster. Considering the Nook is a bare-bones tablet, one of the cheapest out there, it's a surprise that it can run as fast as an OC'd Atrix.
Does this mean our once powerful device is now almost obsolete?
My opinion my not count for much, since I haven't used any other devices, but my Atrix meets and exceeds my expectations for a phone.
I generally don't play 3D games, simply because I despise touchscreen controls. On the rare occasion that I do, they run fine, though once again, I can't compare to any other devices.
The app drawer loads quickly (I keep it pretty organized with folders, which might help), and I don't have issues with the touchscreen lagging. That's all staying on stock speed too. I have an OC kernel, just in case, but I don't use it much anymore.
I have friends with the new nexus and the galaxy s2 and my ATRIX is considerably faster then theirs even when I was running stock rom now that I'm running new ics with a 1.3 OC it spanks their cells
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I have 3 different Android devices: a Nook Tablet, a Samsung Galaxy SII and the Atrix.
The Atrix is the only device I have OC'd and added a custom ROM. The other two are rooted, but stock.
Even though in most benchmarks my rooted Atrix, with a custom 1.45 GHz Kernel and optimized ROM (The Darkside) is almost equal or a bit superior to my SII, it feels slooow when I use them side by side. The Atrix takes some time loading the app screen, the touchscreen lags, and 3D games are definitely slower, no matter what benchmarks say.
Here's the strange thing. My bone-stock Nook, at 1 GHz, scores exactly the same in the Nenamarks 2 benchmark (24.8 fps). Both machines run games at pretty much the same speeds, even though the Nook has to move quite a bit more pixels, and that the Atrix is running 45% faster. Considering the Nook is a bare-bones tablet, one of the cheapest out there, it's a surprise that it can run as fast as an OC'd Atrix.
Does this mean our once powerful device is now almost obsolete?
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Try CM7 and then come here again.
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Try out Joker's or Turl's CM9 builds. They are considerably faster in terms of touch responsiveness and opening apps / app drawer. From my experience, blur is just plain slow.
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Try CM7 and then come here again.
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I won't since I need the webtop.
Still - and I can say it without hesitation - the Galaxy SII flies next to the Atrix. It's my wife's phone and it used to be mine .- so I know what I'm talking about
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Try out Joker's or Turl's CM9 builds. They are considerably faster in terms of touch responsiveness and opening apps / app drawer. From my experience, blur is just plain slow.
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I'll do just to see if Blur is really that bad... but I use the Webtop everyday at the office
I can confirm that with cm7, and especially with cm9 kang builds, the Atrix absolutely flies. It really is clearly better once you get rid of Blur. Fortunately for you, there are plenty of ways to get a deblurred ROM and add Webtop to it. There are also customization options that improve Webtop performance.
I've never had a speed issue quite the opposite. I pretty much hacked it instantly but I've always enjoyed great performance. Some custom roms are better then other and the stuff without blur definitely show speed gains. I did find wet dream faster then darkside and in the end moved to CM roms instead. Neutino was insanely fast I was outdoing my buddy's SII on benchmarks. Something you might want to consider is dropping your OC kernel down a bit. My atrix doesn't do the 1.5 kernels and the closer my overclock gets to it the slower and more unstable I get.
Neutrino rom is the fastest and it is very stable if you flash it then flash the latest fruit cake (webtop only) you will have an incredibly fast ATRIX with your webtop it is all fast and easy to install I personally had a aututu benchmark of 9000+ every time and a high of 9267 and I was using the v6 script and elite 1.6OC
Hit thanks if you found this useful
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I'll do just to see if Blur is really that bad... but I use the Webtop everyday at the office
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The problem is the lack of the I/O performance caused by the MotoBlur bloat.
I use CM9 and VNC to boot ubuntu when want to used webtop, and man, honestly, its beautiful.
You should definitly give it a shot! No, you have to, and see with your eyes, how much good the atrix can be.
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I do notice the difference a lot. I was using cm7 weeklies and the device was super responsive,benchmarks were high but honestly its all pointless it really comes down to how fast it handles real usage not numbers a benchmark gives you.
On blur roms the phone is always laggy but since I need webtop as well I gotta use it this way.
I also own a droid i credible with a snapdragon processor O.C to a little over 1Ghz and its single core and on cm7.1.0 and its almost as fast as my atrix.......kinda makes me mad but the atrix wins as far as ram,memory,and handling games....
Now imagine Atrix 3
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I can confirm that with cm7, and especially with cm9 kang builds, the Atrix absolutely flies. It really is clearly better once you get rid of Blur. Fortunately for you, there are plenty of ways to get a deblurred ROM and add Webtop to it. There are also customization options that improve Webtop performance.
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I would like to know how sir.
Its possible to have Webtop on CM7/9?
i don't understand the point of benchmarks, other than bragging rights.
now, I've used them because I guess that warm feeling of some kind of metric saying the phone is "faster" is nice. Still, usability should be the most important thing.
for me, on a daily basis, my atrix performs how I want it to. It's not overclocked, but it is running the latest alpha of cm9, and on the newer version of quadrant it's scoring around 3400. But really what does that score really mean? Not much if you ask me.
i don't see anything on the market right now that makes me want to extend my contract term. phone does what I need it to, and well.
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I would like to know how sir.
Its possible to have Webtop on CM7/9?
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1 month later but, yes.
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I'll do just to see if Blur is really that bad... but I use the Webtop everyday at the office
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if you want good performance and webtop: Nottachtrix ... Rom very good!
I completely agree if you compare the stock Atrix to most other stock Android phones of comparable stats the Atrix is slower. But with custom Roms (I can only really speak to CM7 and Joker's CM9) I actually find that my Atrix performs better than other phones with custom Roms. It seems Blur/Motorola stock is just programmed poorly but the hardware is solid. I am not overclocked and I use Joker's CM9 as my daily driver it is so smooth it hurts my brain!
Also, it seems like the Tegra 2 chipset is slower comparing to the newer dual core chipsets (like the TI OMAP 4430 on the Atrix 2).
A stock Atrix 2 with motoblur is noticeably faster than Atrix 1 with CM7, sorry. I have both phones right now and can compare them side by side.
I still think that Atrix 1 is the best Motorola phone currently, mainly because of the unlocked bootloader and great custome ROM support (Nottachtrix, CM7, MIUI, Neutrino, 4 ICS roms ).
I will be keeping my Atrix 4g for a while, until Razr drops in price and (if) it gets good developer support.
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Is it just me or does Gingerbread on the phone seem faster and smoother than Honeycomb on tablet with exact same specs?? When my Atrix only had Froyo, I always noticed it performed the same as my Xoom and apps were either fast or slow the same exact way. However, now that I'v gotten Gingerbread on my Atrix, I've noticed apps are much, much smoother...iOS smooth (hate to use that as reference, but...). Take for example the Dish Network app, scrolling through the guide was (on Atrix-Froyo and Xoom ) horrible, but now with Gingerbread on the Atrix, the guide scrolls like butter.
Thoughts???
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Is it just me or does Gingerbread on the phone seem faster and smoother than Honeycomb on tablet with exact same specs?? When my Atrix only had Froyo, I always noticed it performed the same as my Xoom and apps were either fast or slow the same exact way. However, now that I'v gotten Gingerbread on my Atrix, I've noticed apps are much, much smoother...iOS smooth (hate to use that as reference, but...). Take for example the Dish Network app, scrolling through the guide was (on Atrix-Froyo and Xoom ) horrible, but now with Gingerbread on the Atrix, the guide scrolls like butter.
Thoughts???
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Hmm... well, the Atrix has very similar hardware to the Xoom.
Gingerbread is a phone OS. It is lighter weight than Honeycomb.
Xoom has a screen that has just short of double the number of pixels that the Atrix's has.
If you're upset with the Xoom's performance, download Tiamat Kernel with overclocked GPU and jump the processor up past 1.5 GHz. The thing screams.
EDIT) I'm from DC too.
Apps are mostly made for the phones.
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Hmm... well, the Atrix has very similar hardware to the Xoom.
Xoom has a screen that has just short of double the number of pixels that the Atrix's has.
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I was just about to point this out, although I honestly have no idea how much that affects the GPU/performance in terms of "2x laggier" or however you want to describe it, but actually be twice as laggy in numbers and not just "what it feels like."
I wish someone would find out how the Xoom would benchmark if it had lower resolution, just out of curiosity.
Mainly because Honeycomb is still a work in development, an ongoing project. The Android phone OS has had a few years now to get everything worked out, figured out, and made to run smoothly. The Honeycomb tablet OS on the other hand has had only a few months now of ongoing development. It's progressing and in due time will turn out how the Android phone OS did, amazingly solid! Do you think that when they released Android for the very first time a few years ago that it was perfect with no lag issues? No. Same goes with Honeycomb as it is their first major release for the Android tablet world.
Our next major release will be Ice Cream Sandwich, which should be a game changer for everything we know about the Android OS. So expect performance boosts with the next big release along with a whole slew of new goodies.
I expect ICS to be like when you are coming from 2.0 Eclair then updating to the latest 2.3 Gingerbread in terms of speed, stability, and features. That's a major jump in the update department! That's how I feel ICS will be when it launches. I feel that any lag issues experienced by the users will be worked out by then, giving us a super silky smooth OS that runs on both phone and tablet alike! That's what we wanted all along, right?
well I don't know how many people here have tried it but ADW Launcher makes the Xoom fly...until the lagginess goes away I'm sticking with that launcher...try it!!
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well I don't know how many people here have tried it but ADW Launcher makes the Xoom fly...until the lagginess goes away I'm sticking with that launcher...try it!!
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Agreed! Been using Adw Launcher EX myself since day one on my Xoom. It hasn't had anymore Honeycomb specific updates in months, but it's still a rock solid launcher to use as a replacement to the stock one. I choose Adw over the Honeycomb launcher any day.
Main difference will be screen res, Atrix is pushing 384000 pixels while the xoom pushes 926720 pixels (rough amount) so its like having 2.5 atrix screens put together, for me that explains all
I work with 3ds Max and 2 monitors, when I had only one screen 3ds max moved smooth as butter, but since I dropped a second screen 3ds max is not the same and I bet it crashes more often. I think there is a similar situation on these devices. Someone needs to port gingerbread to the xoom and see how it performs against the atrix.
This is what changes I have noticed when going from 3.2.x to 4.0.3 on the TF201, and I will be curious to see what is ROM/Hardware dependent versus the TF101 running 4.0.3+.
ICS is different than HC or GB, trust me once you get used to it, you will not want to go back. The new settings menu takes getting used to and swipping away stuff is AWESOME.
Holy $#@! that's fast! I've always found HC on the OG Transformer to be pretty smooth and more consisently so than Windows machines I've used, same on the TF201 out of the box and I was not impressed with the Tegra 3. Once I updated my Prime to ICS last night, I had to give buttery smooth a new meaning. I don't know how much of this will roll back to the TF101s ROM but it was noticable to me on the TF201 Prime. Assumably it is either changes to hardware acelleration (n.b. Tegra 3 > Tegra 2), or ASUS optimized the holy frakking hell out of it compared to their HC; if they take/have taken the time for our TF101s, it can only be goodness....
Stock browser seems improved enough to deserve revisiting (I didn't test it on the Prime before the ICS update) but doubt it is worth switching back to.
Issues like widgets and such I can't say, because I didn't check before updating my TF201 ICS. Built in apps, I don't know if we will get a back port because I didn't notice any difference pre/post ICS, so I guess it's a good thing someone here did. The Prime's version of the File Manager app, doesn't suck like ours does!
And have I ever mentioned, Tapatalk needs better support for rendering BBCode?
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As far as smoothness on ics. My mytouch 4g, with its single core qualcom, is running alot better on a beta ics build with limited hw acceleration so I can imagine that ics will be a huge dose of smooth on the tf101.
ICS is definitely a huge evolution over HC or GB. I've been enjoying it on my Galaxy Nexus for about a month now. Massive improvements in the feel of the OS (swiping, folders, etc.) and I'm very pleased with the stock browser. The recent programs feature is fantastic. Especially if you do a lot of switching between apps, or in and out of the settings page and you want to resume exactly where you left off. I look forward to comparing the feel of a phone version to that of the tablet version on my TF101, hopefully soon!
Its also buttery smooth on the nexus s with its now feeble single core.
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Same as above, a i have the Incredible 2 running a beta version of ICS.
I literally can't go back to CM7 or any sense rom because the speed difference is massive, i feel like i've just downgraded phones if i flash back. So i just keep going without a camera because i can't stand the sluggishness of GB.
So i'm guessing we will see some pretty big speed enhancements, especially after they get kernels going. I can't wait, i'm one of those guys that prefers as much speed as possible i just never need to save much batter.
I guess than once we get ICS next month, we will see how well the Tegra 2 GPU stacks up against old Adreni 200 series lol.
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Well it might help with the prime that they uped the clock speed it from like 1.3 to 1.6 ghz
based on my experience in galaxy s with beta ics and not even a leaked official,the ics is just AWESOME.
so fast and smooth and yes,browser works perfectly.
i guess its the time where android reached a mature state.
Re: Ics tf101
Based on what I saw on the beta in the dev forum. I would say things are looking very good. It was noticable snappy from what i sampled. I liked it soo much i would have stayed on it if it wert for the sleep of death issue i was having. It was a fun experiment.
Its very nice for what it is.
It had that same kinda spark as my galaxy nexus on VZW does ....would love to see some p3droid roms for the transformers.
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Well it might help with the prime that they uped the clock speed it from like 1.3 to 1.6 ghz
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Most likely they will overclock the kernal like thy did on the prime. Hopefully (wish) the stock kernal will come with overclocked ram, GPU, and CPU. And undervolting.
Yea, ICS will run heavy on any Adreno 200. I have an old Droid Incredible running an ICS ROM and it is noticably laggy during screen transitions. I have a friend however that runs an ICS ROM on his DROID X and it runs smooth as butter.
/shrug
what does every think of the departure of the Context Menu button, and the impact it will have on quick access to options?
I saw this on the Galaxy Nexus, i believe it's common to ICS
Honeycomb never really had the Menu button, so it's not a big loss on the tablet front.
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From what I've seen ICS is much the same as HC as far as button usage.
It has the same 3 buttons with the context button apearing like the three dots on the galaxy nexus when needed. Also has the bar at the top (dont remember what the official name is) with other context related stuff.
Please tell me if im wrong as I am yet to try an alpha port.
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I've been testing Hashcodes CM9 for the Droid 3 and even in it's less than fully functional state, it is so much faster than gingerbread. I can't use it as my primary ROM yet because of the "less than fully functional" bits being so necessary, but it is blazing. hash, please hurry up (tapsvein)
Hello,
Just got my phone yesterday and this is my first android phone i am pretty sure my previous phone Windows phone was a lot lot better at most of the things and performance too!!
some times i see lag in scrolling menus,etc! on a Dual core it was hard to believe but anyways i hope it gets better with ICS soon.
So at the moment can anyone tell me where to get good apps (marketplace sucks to find apps)
and some ways to improve battery usage with keeping phone in push mode?
I would highly appericiate if anyone can give me a clue of good ICS custom ROM build there are so many builds and its highly confusing.
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Amen to that. Viamonte is absolutely right, some of IPhone and window phone users have little idea what a good Android phone can do. Anyway welcome to Android, it's worth the switch.
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As a last Note said:
why not? Curios.
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CorruptedSanity said:
why not? Curios.
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No idea, but it isn't. No matter how much you customize and alter your Android, you'll always find instances where it doesn't wake, or lag on scrolling, or screen changing, or whatever. After using a Titan, a N9 and a 4S for extended periods of time, I can easily say that's an Android problem, no matter how good the phone or the software is.
Except ICS, I haven't tried it yet...
Yes no android I've ever used was as fluid as an Iphone sadly.
I used a Desire and an HD on 2.0 and 2.1 and now have the Note on 2.3.
Android 4.0 is really stable, my kid plays games with my phone and he got gb almost everytime reboot twice a day, but ICS haven't even once rebooted in a month. And android 4.0 is really fluid, due to hw-acceleration, but still not 100% fluid i think, maybe because i have unofficially ics on i9000
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Update to the latest GB firmware (LA4?), it will resolve all your lag issues.
Android Lag Argument Nullified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTqYvJVHCA
I know, I know quad core, BUT people say ICS makes a world of difference on any device 4 cores or 1!!
Viamonte said:
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Yes i saw that ICS thread but i was little set back to see it isnt stable yet and being stated as it wont get camera till official ICS rom so i am looking at a no camera rom for at least 2 months for sure so cant dive into ICS as of now.
Your reply helps a lot
Was thinking if i can directly go to install any custom rom although i found more than 9 ROMs on the first page and all looked so same but not being good with technical of android i was thinking if you can suggest me a good rom.
I dont care about the theme and visuals at all i need cutting edge performance and battery life thats the only thing needed/
Do let me know if you have any specific rom in mind.
I guess N7000 and your i9000 both are not the same so probably i cant install ICS in GNote (at least not the stable one right?)
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers
incorrect.
admanirv said:
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
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What? ICS is more powerfull than any blur rom...
way better than GB bro
I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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video playback (HW decoding) and flash player are what's holding me back.
On the rom that you tried, have you tried those functions?
Honestly, if I didn't have a lapdock I would be using jokesax build as my daily driver. It does everything I need it to do smoothly. Only problem is when you plug it in the lapdock, it's just an android tablet with no touch screen. Using that trackpad as your finger is not fun. Otherwise, the CM9 stuff is great.
Okay so the tegra drivers for ICS are present in the CM9 roms or is it some bespoke driver?
H/W decoding and camcorder are what keep me away from the ICS roms atm.
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Any custom can be good!
Correct me if Im wrong but as far as I can tell the big differences between ICS and GB are seen in stock roms.
And Custom Rom is USUALLY zipaligned, deodexed, converted to ext4.
Sometimes Developers (like notorious) build awesome mix of both, and put in they're own unique tweeks. Notorious's Neutrino 2.6 for instance runs graphics entirely from the GPU among some other tweeks, and you WILL NOT find a smoother faster rom. WILL NOT!
Now the only real ways we have to test out phones "performance" is with benchmarking apps like antutu and quandrant. But honestly their outcomes tend to vary so much, its hard to go by what they say.
But just so everyone knows, my best bechmark "score" on antutu was 7047 with cm7 oc'd to 1.45 (which is gingerbread by the way)
Ive benched every rom from all of Jokers cm9's, to every miui (GB&ICS) as well as all the CM7's and builds based off them (neutrino, morrisoftgen). Even BLUR based roms like dorians redpill and The Darkside by nottich.
All im saying is that I think both builds have the potential to be equally as powerful as the eachother.
PLEASE if Im completly wrong about ANY of this I would like to be corrected, but please make sure its with CORRECT information, lol.
Thanks!
CM9 anTuTu
Also, the best score on antutu ive gotten on any one of the cm9 jokersax builds with faux 1.45 oc kernel was about 6900!
So, so far Custom GB roms are best so far according to benches
I think the gb rooms perform a little bit faster...using cm9 4.0 jokersax and its laggy opening my app drawer and little laggy moments too..cm7 was a little bit faster though imo
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ICS ROMs still aren't very good with 2D hardware acceleration. And that means 2D is still gonna be slow and jerky.
ICS
I am running with jokersax ics rom, it is great, and the performance is better than the OTA 2.3.5 from Bell.. it took a bit to get the bootloader unlocked, etc.. it seems like I flash roms daily now... Unfortunately, there are still bugs... the most utd rom does not seem to take pictures properly, causes the app to lock up, and the video cam is no usable at all.. :\ I have reverted back to the 0.3.3 rom, and it will take pictures... as far as 2d/3d games are concerned, I play world of goo, hot pursuit, angry birds space and they all run great...
Motorola has ics update in progress as we speak, and they should be rolling out in a couple months, which means any lost code or functions that are n/a now will be rippable from the official... so either way, you can use the ota now or get a taste of ICS with a few problems...
flashing only takes about 5 minutes anyhoo, so its not like you can't switch back and forth....
I find ICS to perform a little quicker, my 2 cents.
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Personally I have used Jokersax's and turl's builds (using turl now, but downloading jokersax 0.4.4 now). Both have really very good performance, especially compared to stock, I would say they outperform it by a long way, but yea, 2D graphics aren't brilliant and the camera was borked (although jokersax has apparently fixed that). I would say definitely change to 4.0.4 just because it is the latest android version and everything about it is soo nice, no blur to bog it down and while I am sure that many 2.3 roms can perform better, sometimes, it is best to choose user experience.
im on turl's latest and find scrolling to be so utterly smooth on ics easily replicating the smooth scrolling experiene on iphone whereas GB always had that slight jittery scroll which always annoyed me. I use apex launcher which i find to be smoother than trebuchet and with that all in all id say performance seems smoother than back on GB
I'm using CM9 both on HPtouchpad and Atrix.
And I can say that Atrix's 2d acceleration is not perfect yet.
It is almost perfect when we scroll lists.
But not when we scroll home screen with wallpaper scroll option.
And some people will think that browser's acceleration is perfect,
but it is not yet when it comes to complex web page.
It can be even more faster. I found that when I used cm9 on hp touchpad.
(Of course, turl and jokersax are doing great job. We have to blame motorola and nvidia )
I find cm9 to work very well, although there are the browser issues mentioned elsewhere.
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Hello my fellow flashing friends!
Is it me or is ICS a bit overrated ? I tried several ICS roms, and apart from the buggy (video)camera still I admit it's not bad, in fact yes, it's quite good and very smooth. But can anyone give me one good reason why a good ICS rom would be BETTER than a good GB ROM ?
Except for being able to "say" that you are running the latest android version, and a few other transition effects in ICS (ok I know there's a bit more to it but you know what I mean) I don't see what would make ICS the better choice over GB.
So far GB can do everything what ICS can do afaik, in the end probably even better (especially for us DHD users). So tell me your motivations why you would run an ICS rom and not a GB one ?
There are many excellent GB roms such as ARHD, CoreDroid, Runnymede, MIUI roms, CM7, etc that in the end imo outclass the ICS ones a bit still..
The only reason I can think of I'd flash an ICS rom for some while is to have something "different" again, but in the end I seem to get back to the good ol' GB everytime..
So tell me your motivations why you'd go for ICS rom or why for GB rom!
Lol, ICS hasn't even come officially to the DHD so you can't compare official GB and ported ICS, GB is going to be extinct once ICS comes offcially
ARHD for example, is official GB and that's way more smoother and performance/batterywise. So GB for now, ICS when it comes offcially
ICS roms are fully functional on DHD already apart of videocamera ofcourse.. But ok even if we take i.e. a Galaxy Nexus then, what's better about it than the DHD with a smooth GB rom ?
It's just something I am trying to figure out.
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
Bert2662 said:
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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Right now using the CM9 rom ported by jcmaddox, with blackened ice theme + htc keyboard + working camera and videocamera (but this one lags a bit in 720p), feels pretty nice. But I'm a Sense addict so from the moment a Sense 4.0 rom is available with working camera I will go for that one probably.
ICS = new, nuff said.
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ICS = new, nuff said.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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MaxyDad said:
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
if you just have to flash a rom as of today... gingerbread big time!
However, many ics innovations (and honeycomb) are developers side. ics brought many new cool features for developing much better applications. And if it's true that iOS fortune is its apps quality and variety, then android is moving in the right direction, giving developers a much better, and appealing environment to work in. So in a not too far future you'll need ics as minimum requirement to run the most cool applications on your android. And they are gonna kick ass, making of your phone an awesome device. till that day you can always stick with gingerbread . do not forget that gingerbread took over froyo as most used android operating system only in december (2011) so most of apps have been developed with that in mind so far. (backward compatibility etc...)
cheers!
personally, since switching to pics from GB, I couldn't imagine running another GB from as my daily. While ICS might not do anything particularly better than GB on the DHD or Inspire, it certainly seems to do all of the things nicer. Simple little features like folders and recent apps windows may not seem that important if you haven't used them, but once you get used to the interface, ICS aosp experience blows GB's out of the water in my opinion. Now if we're talking sense or some other manufacturer overlay it may not be the same, but as far as stock goes I LOVE ics
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
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I think you're probably right about the stock browser. It isn't quite as responsive as the GB one, but it seems to add some nice functionality. The main shortcoming for me though (and I say this quietly) is the camera, or lack thereof. Will get fixed in due course.
Overall, ICS is actually better than I expected.
Maxy
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I was an avid user of ARHD before I switched to IceColdSandwich, now I can't turn back. ICS is smoother, faster and has essentially doubled my battery usage from barely a day to two full days.
I tried the One X ports but they have a terrible battery life and lack AOKP's features. ATM I couldn't be happier with ICS.
ICS is great but then there are a few limitation when you try to get ICS on our phone. ICS is fast, smooth and even better with battery but then a GB ROM would probably give you more functional phone.
Basically depends upon whether you can live without those few features. I f you can ICS should be the way to go. There's a slight catch though DHD isnt really the latest of all devices, so devs would concentrate on the development of ROMs for the new devices. (Lord and Twisted both have moved out DHD ICS development scene but there are still a few great devs working), so regular updates would come less often.
and GB is mature and stable (with almost no updates required).
Yeah the stability is a big issue for me as well, my GPS was working perfectly til I switched over to Ice Cold Sandwich on my DHD.
Although I was able to fix it using a patch, I find GB roms have less problems in the internal side of things...
No doubt ICS feels nicer to have on your phone though
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Google Chrome support, folders, smoother, optimized, easier to use. Nuff said
Not to forget HID Support with BT and with Sense
I find that ICS has more to offer feature wise, however I am new to this and haven't had the chance to test many GB ROMs.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
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gimme one reason to choose GB over ICS when sense 4 is fully ported to DHD...
Ics has a lot of new features and is worth it. But i don't see why you made this thread if your shooting down peoples opinions on the matter
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