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Evolution of a CM fan.

I suppose this one is for the folks that are new to rooting and custom ROMs in general. I should say from the start that I am NOT a developer. Just a flashaholic.
I started out as a big fan of HTC's sense UI. I still appreciate the spit and polish of the little details in their work and will flash a Sense based ROM just to have my FriendStream widget back for a day or two. The visual appeal is still a few steps ahead of the AOSP ROMs that are available. Sense is also easy to customize, for the parts that can be customized. HTC offers a fairly good variety of stuff and in my experience most of the apps that make your phone "prettier" are compatible with my Evo.
Things started to change for me the first time I tried out a MIUI ROM. I was astounded to find out the number of things that my phone was capable of that Sense either locked out or simply could not integrate successfully. I got frustrated with the bugs in the version of MIUI I was using at the time pretty quickly and bounced back over to another Sense ROM. It took about 48 hours before I was so annoyed with the lack of user discretion in actual system settings that I hopped back over to that Friday's release of MIUI. I like that ROM in the overall for the ease of flashing. Just download, wipe, flash and voila! You're ready to go. What I didn't like was the amount of infighting and chaos that the American team seemed to be struggling through. This does seem to have been resolved. Now I just want to see them iron out a few wrinkles caused by the leap to GingerBread.
I do want to mention here that I still have the utmost respect for the people who bring us MIUI every week. Thank you to Stiffspliff, who brings a fresh port to our Evos every weekend, and usually less than 24 hours after the Chinese team releases it!
That being said, I looked at flashing a Cyanogen ROM and at the time was frankly intimidated by what was needed to flash it. Initially I couldn't even figure out the difference between Stable, Nighly, Release Candidate and Experimental. So, again, back to Sense for a while and yet more reading. It should mentioned for the sake of the new folks reading this that I have done, and will continue to do, a TON of reading. I spent six months just lurking here at XDA before I tried rooting and still needed help on IRC. Many thanks to Eyeballer over there for getting me through that process. Once I had enough confidence flashing different ROMs I finally gave Cyanogen a shot and was truly bummed at the lack of "bling". So I flashed back almost immediately. Curiosity is what made me want to try another CM ROM. What I didn't know at the time was that Cyanogen truly shines under the skin. It finally made sense (no pun intended) when a senior member here made the comment that Sense was just dead-weight on what is already an incredibly efficient OS. The number and variety of elements that can be modified to an individuals tastes and needs is mind blowing. With the bug fixes that came out with 7.0.2 today there is very little about Sense that draws me back. Like I said at the top, my FriendStream widget is all I really miss, since Facebook's widget stinks. And I am still having trouble getting my Visual Voice Mail working, but I think that has more to do with my lack of knowledge than any inherent problems with Cyanogen. (Yes, I have tried the fixes posted here but I'm probably missing something obvious.)
In summary, in my long-winded sort of way, what brought me to Cyanogen was wanting to have access to the full capabilities of my phone, not just what HTC thought we should have. I do still like Sense and am interested to see what kind of improvements are coming down the pipe. However, if those improvements aren't absolutely exceptional I'll be sticking to Cyanogen ROMs as my daily driver.
Before anyone gets all hot and bothered I should also say that I know these Opinions are not universal. There are a number of experienced and talented devs who prefer Sense ROMs. This is just me sharing my experiences for people who are on the fence about trying out a ROM that is more AOSP than not. The great thing about the community here at XDA is that you have a huge variety of well supported ROMs to choose from. So if you haven't already, give Cyanogen a shot. If you don't like it, pick a different one and flash away! I would also like to hear about anyone else's opinions or experiences on the subject.

I agree, cm7 rocks

CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.

mlin said:
CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I have heard of LP but didn't know that it included those features. I'll give it a shot for certain.

No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
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mlin said:
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
Firstly, Holy Smokes! Those are some serious medical terms in your agenda. Med student? Second, do you really know someone over in Hotchkiss? The only reason I ask is because I grew up there and in Paonia for a few years. Tiny town that I never would have expected to see the name of here on XDA. If I'm being nosy just tell me to mind my own business. Great sig by the way.
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Your experience almost sounds like I could have written it. I went with mostly sense roms because I really didn't ahe the tech know how to feel comfortable with the "stripped down" AOSP roms. I installed cm one day and was, well, underwhelmed with the opening screen. I then went to Myn's 5, but found that 4g didn't work. I loved Myn's roms, but hated the idea of taking a step back to get a rom that had working 4g. Philly has 4g and since I'm paying for it, I want it! Then came the announcement that cm had working 4g. I gave it a try again. This time I was more patient and read, and then read some more. I found that I like Jorte's calendar better than the sense one. Then I found out how to put the clock and weather back on the main screen. Wasn't to my liking, but I made it work. Voicemail was a problem and I went to g-voice as many have suggest. It was okay, but kludgy for me. Then I discovered youmail. Very nice. My friends really like the custom greetings that it offers. Score! The other day Amazon had fancy widgets as their free paid app of the day. Well, as far as I'm concerned that was the missing piece for my home screen. With that installed I now have animated weather and clock running from one app again. Facebook still sucks, but its certainly no reason for me to go back to sense.

Pierceye said:
mlin said:
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
Firstly, Holy Smokes! Those are some serious medical terms in your agenda. Med student? Second, do you really know someone over in Hotchkiss? The only reason I ask is because I grew up there and in Paonia for a few years. Tiny town that I never would have expected to see the name of here on XDA. If I'm being nosy just tell me to mind my own business. Great sig by the way.
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Yeah, 1st year MD/PhD Student. And yeah, my wife's grandparents lived in Hotchkiss for about 10 years. My Hotchkiss friend on FB is the best friend of their youngest daughter.
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mlin said:
CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.
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I love that feature too but it stopped working for me on my 3rd party music player.

mlin said:
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
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What launcherpro theme is that?
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jxr94 said:
What launcherpro theme is that?
Delivered via my CyanogenModinized Supersonic
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m4rk0358 said:
I love that feature too but it stopped working for me on my 3rd party music player.
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What 3rd party music player do you use? I am using the MIUI music player and it still works.

Android Market 3.1.3

Anyone else tried android market 3.1.3 on there Xoom?
It seems like go to google has resigned it to run on tablets. It runs so much better than the old version.
Download it from the link below
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/08/23/download-android-market-3-1-3-adds-1-for-apps-and-games-pin-number-for-purchases-and-more/

your link is messed.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-and-games-pin-number-for-purchases-and-more/
I like it. I hope it fixes the various tablet market bugs.

Although this is a market update for the phone Android OS just like the past few updates, and not for the tablet OS... it seems to work pretty well and it looks decent on the Xoom. At least having the ability to comment and rate things is good to know that you can have just like normal.
The only real thing I see wrong is when you go into 'My Apps', clearly it is not optimized for larger screens. Aside from that, it operates just the same as the phone OS market. Clean, fast, and looks pretty good as well even on a larger screen. It's useable.
In conclusion, I uninstalled this after a very short test run out of curiosity. I would much rather keep the Honeycomb market app.

Well, I can say its definitely optimised for tablets. I'm guessing this will be the next version for tablets.
Here's a few reasons why.
Did you try the old mobile apk? The whole UI was blown up to fit the screen. Whereas this has. Dual panel setup you see in many Honeycomb apps.
You have a tablet specific section.
When you purchase an app you get a pop-up window to confirm your purchase. just like the original honeycomb version.
Yes I know My apps section looks like it needs work doing to it but I think it's Beta that got leaked.
To me it's a huge improvement from the the original honeycomb version.

I want to try it, but i have a completely stock Xoom, so my question is can i uninstall it with "Uninstall updates"?

Installing from the link in the second post did not upgrade my current market, it will install it additionally. I have both versions installed.
Works and looks great! I like the pin lock feature (wish all apps had that) and the ability to review.

Kas206 said:
Well, I can say its definitely optimised for tablets. I'm guessing this will be the next version for tablets.
Here's a few reasons why.
Did you try the old mobile apk? The whole UI was blown up to fit the screen. Whereas this has. Dual panel setup you see in many Honeycomb apps.
You have a tablet specific section.
When you purchase an app you get a pop-up window to confirm your purchase. just like the original honeycomb version.
Yes I know My apps section looks like it needs work doing to it but I think it's Beta that got leaked.
To me it's a huge improvement from the the original honeycomb version.
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I wouldn't doubt it if this was the next update for the tablet, after all... this design/setup was inspired from the tablet market anyways. The Honeycomb tablets started coming out and then then phone OS market got an entire UI revamp not long after that to match the new high quality market we got from Honeycomb. It's all a part of the puzzle that will ultimately unite the tablet and the phone as one with Ice Cream Sandwich. They will both end up sharing a similar or the same exact high quality market app when ICS debuts no doubt. Thus, you will be left with one market that works and scales correctly in high def on both devices. Looking forward to seeing that!
Funny thing though... people think that having one OS on both devices sounds like we are going backwards in technology, aka the iPhone and iPad are the same device in reality... one is just larger. But, that is not the case with Android and ICS. It will be a high def OS that works together on both phones and tablets, and will scale the same high def quality on all screen sizes. ICS will be a perfect OS with great high quality designed to unite both devices, instead of having a phone... and then an oversized phone that doesn't make calls.
Silly Apples... you can only get away with that junk for so long until the public starts to realize that they are being ripped off by trying to pass off a giant phone as a tablet. At least Android knows what it's doing with the introduction of Honeycomb back in February. The only devices that can truly be labeled as a tablet must be running a tablet specific OS in the first place... aka, Honeycomb. Otherwise, they are indeed known as a giant phone that does not make calls by default.
I said all that just because I wanted to think out loud... lol.

Anyone know how to install the new market and have it set as the only market? Meaning how do we du,p the ols one so it never opens and doesn't show in the app drawer?
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patass said:
Anyone know how to install the new market and have it set as the only market? Meaning how do we du,p the ols one so it never opens and doesn't show in the app drawer?
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if you're not rooted you will not be able to remove the stock market

anybody who said this was tablet optimized needs to slap himself. this app is clearly not optimized for honeycomb

p-slim said:
anybody who said this was tablet optimized needs to slap himself. this app is clearly not optimized for honeycomb
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It really looks optimized on my Xoom. Want a picture as proof?

Vistaus said:
It really looks optimized on my Xoom. Want a picture as proof?
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Why would I need proof, i own a xoom and can see for myself exactly what it looks like. Open up "my apps" and tell me that's honeycomb optimized. Also I don't see a "featured tablet apps " section, so what in gods name makes you think this is tablet optimized, just because the main screen fits, smh?
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i see a featured tablet section. And I am rooted, I just dont see where the old market stuff is.

p-slim said:
Why would I need proof, i own a xoom and can see for myself exactly what it looks like. Open up "my apps" and tell me that's honeycomb optimized. Also I don't see a "featured tablet apps " section, so what in gods name makes you think this is tablet optimized, just because the main screen fits, smh?
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Dude, calm down. This CLEARLY has some tablet optimizations. There is a lot of two-column stuff going on, ActionBar support. It runs great on my phone and my tablet. This is exactly how ICS is going to work, and it is good to see Google doing this kind of development before ICS hits.

p-slim said:
Why would I need proof, i own a xoom and can see for myself exactly what it looks like. Open up "my apps" and tell me that's honeycomb optimized. Also I don't see a "featured tablet apps " section, so what in gods name makes you think this is tablet optimized, just because the main screen fits, smh?
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I'm sorry that your opinion is wrong. Lol!

Psychokitty said:
I'm sorry that your opinion is wrong. Lol!
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My opinion isn't wrong, sorry you feel that app is FULLY optimized for your xoom when it isn't. Yeah some features are looking good on the xoom but not all. The app is the same on my xoom and everyone else's. Unless you're asking that stupid question if we did anything other then install app, again. Only on xda do people think FULLY OPTIMIZED means some honeycomb features, obviously when anyone clicks on my apps you instantly can see this app isn't meant for honeycomb. This isn't an argument as anyone can clearly see that part of the app isn't correct
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My Apps looks fine here. It doesn't integrate really with the rest of the market, but it looks fine.
But more important: the rest of the market is optimized. I don't see any part that looks wrong (only a search bar bug, but that's it).

Here are some comparison screenshots. You can definitely see the changes.
3.1.3 On top
3.0.26 At the bottom
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Market
Hey guys, this looks interesting as I have the Htc Desire and my market on there has been replaced with one that look exactly like the pics that have been posted. I didn't update it manually it just changed.....is this right? My Desire has not been rooted or flashed in anyway. It shows build version 3.1.3
My Mrs has the Htc Desire too and her market as not changed.....
Also when I go on the marketplace on my XOOM and search for an app, the results may say 'found 50 Apps' but it doesn't display any where near that many...do I need to upgrade my marketplace...?
Thanks in Advance.....

How would you want the Android 4.0 (ICS) update to look like? -Rumor Update-

Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
EDIT: No, this is not "just another ICS thread".
EDIT 2: A Sony employee tweeted these:
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If it's really true, I'm very excitedly happy. Yay for stock Android

- New timescape version (might include timescape for application)
- Apps & Widget manager
- New music players
- More bloatwares
- Hopefully camera will be fixed
- System running faster

what happen to the camera?

Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.

XperienceD said:
Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
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I hope we do manage to get it rooted with locked bootloaders because after that, making it stock is easy

-Camera compression
-Shortcuts for notification site, to add music player, power control shortcuts
-New home launcher...
-better support for liveview
-wi fi connection
-faster scrolling in menu, switch from first to last app. list faster.like moving finger on dots beyond apps
-"xBass" pls. make this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106197 I'd appreciate it, really. f* xloud, it doesnt change max loudness.

I don't think SE is that dumb to change the whole appearance of ICS lol..
why would they even do that? maybe a little touch to make it more attractive than the others but why would they make it into a TS UI? LOL makes no sense to me as the holographic engine of the ICS FW is so damn awesome & sleek :O

I think it would be great if sony put its touch in the interface while keeping it ICS
look in general.

Camera compression is the only adjustment I care about. Make it better or lose a customer

Full blown SE customization.
Stock android is boring (at least for me)

- Hardware accelerated graphics -> smooth, lag-free scrolling and navigation !

Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess

I like se one over stock gingerbread .but ice cream?iam not sure
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I hope and think SE will combine their amazing UI design skills
with ICS.
ICS is not so beautiful everywhere however I think - I really do! - that some ICS UI elements are actually inspired by SE.
SE has the best UI on smartphones IMO.

I like ICS home launcher, but I also like SE's home launcher, so I hope to have the functionality of SE Home launcher with the stock launcher + SE theme.
I like some of SE functionality also like Facebook inside Xperia.
but there's things I hate, SE must, and must and MUST do something regarding it...
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
2- The Home launcher & browser both should be Hardware accelerated, and Home launcher should be loaded in Memory all the time, and make the browser have this option also.

Xajel said:
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
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One of ics new features is disabling any system app so it looks like we won't have an issue
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jtc42 said:
Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
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Erm, you've got to be joking?!! The Google ICS image on the right looks like a cluttered, cramped and confusing mess. The SE image on the left is clear and simple. Also look at that pointless big grey bar at the bottom of the screen on ICS - what an absolute waste of screen space.
I also absolutely hate the way ICS on the Galaxy Nexus wastes screen space for those pointless software Android buttons. Slimline tactile buttons as on the Xperias are a superior solution.
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doomed151 said:
Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
EDIT: No, this is not "just another ICS thread".
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I'm not sure whether you can already do this or not in ICS, but I think there should be a way to add labels to pages in your app tray. I see Google has added tabs for "Apps" and "Widgets", but I think this is a pointless change. I don't need a Widget tab, nor do I want an Android Market tab (it's there for no other reason than Goog£€ making sure to promote its ridiculous 30% cut on app sales). What I would like is the ability to create custom tabs to group my apps (or, alternatively, the ability to create folders) in the app tray. Ironically, Google have moved to SE-style side scrolling for apps, but with custom tabs vertical scrolling would actually look better!
I would also like companies like SE to neuter Google's power a bit more. I simply do not trust Google (I think it is becoming too big, powerful and "big brother" like) and would like SE to add features such as the making it more configurable what data Google receive, and reduce the dependency on Google services.
I also wish SE would stop forcing Facebook on users, and allow users to remove the Facebook app and all Facebook features - not only is the Facebook app badly written and a CPU and battery hog (which runs in the background even if you sign out), Facebook is another company that I do not trust at all.

I have to agree with Paul. I'm not a big fan of the ICS UI. I particularly don't care for the soft buttons at the bottom of the screen. I prefer a clean, simple look. Albiet I haven't used a true ICS ROM, but I have flashed ICS themed ROMS and don't like it all. Call me a creature of habit, but I have no plans of installing ICS when it's finally released.
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I forget to say,
1- Add support for USB-OTG Mass Storage, and please for any newer phones, even if you will add large internal memory ( like 16GB ) add also a microSD slot, it's a must, and AFAIK missing the microSD will mean no USB-OTG Mass Storage...
2- Support WiFi Direct

I don't know if you're aware, but when ICS comes to the arc, or any other device with buttons, the soft buttons are disabled and it functions as normal.
Also the ICS themes for 2.3 are not at all a fair indication of the user experience. Most of the joy of ICS is its the first version of android with some degree of descent UI consistency.
I agree, the SE overlay is the best android 2.3 interface around. But android 2.3 UI sucked, it was a mess of aged, inconsistent graphics design. Sony took it and built an aged looking but more consistent UI design. Google have actually gone and made a stock UI in ICS that looks stylish enough to stand out in this world of simple, modern interface design.
But as I said, each to their own I guess I for one will be updating as soon as possible, ICS brings so many great new features to the table, as long as Sony doesn't spoil them, I think it's going to be a great update
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Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?

I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?

It doesn't, but that's my opinion. And trust me, our opinion is the minority. I run stock 2.3.4 rooted with all system apps frozen, but i leave blur as is. It's never bothered me. Love the messaging app, the universal inbox, the connected music player, the built in photo editor, the call log and contact list, and the dialer.
Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
me, it's the other way around, I started on blur and go to vanilla or sense and I'm like "what? where is this supposed to be?" And I don't see why they hate blur still, the atrix version is so much lighter than the original, the launcher is tiny, the UI is so much more clean..

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Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
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Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?

The Blur sucks, coz' it sucks....
Just as the TouchWiz sucks, and the LG interface sucks....
The only UI that works good is the Sense, and its problem that it is heavy like a fat lady! Only if you have a strong device it will not interfere with the normal use, otherwise it will cause lags and so.
I personally prefer vanilla roms on all the above, it is the best and lightest of all. and adding to it the Go Launcher will yield a superfast device with all the goods from all the other UI.
Again this is my personal thoughts, it doesnt necessarily means it right, just that it is what I like

saiftheboss7 said:
Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?
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Unlock the bootloader first
then you want to do with kernel, I switched from faux to clemsyn because of the lag [but both are great, try both, run your own tests and pick which one works best]
Remember with the kernels pick the enhance 1.0 ghz for att, not the cm7 ones
the radio is in the fruit cake thread, look up the 2.3.5 one and flash it, should help with wifi wake and signal...since you are clean I would go ahead and do the whole 2.3.5 fruit cake
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix. I use it on the backflip, the cliq xt, but I find it to be less responsive than stock and maybe it's just me but the image quality itself looks better on stock
the good thing is once you are unlocked and have the right recovery installed, switching between all of these is very easy, so whatever you like best shouldn't be hard to go back to

againareku said:
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix.
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O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.

saiftheboss7 said:
I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?
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Blur used to have a confusing and shockingly sluggish UI. However, with the 2.3 update Motorola completely redid blur and now its much better. Its still a little slower than vanilla, but its actually usable now. A lot of the hate was over the old version and what's left is from sense fanboys or people who hate skins in general.
Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I don't like manufacture skins myself.

Anybody knows how to erase a motoblur account? I don't use it anymore. Thanks.
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There is no right or wrong on this.
Just personal opinion, it is your phone after all you do what you want and set it up that best suites you.
I tend to go along with most of the other posters on this thread. I have used CM7 on HTC's and Samsung's as I really do not like their stock interfaces.
Before buying the Atrix I thought Blur would be the same and on launch it was but we couldn't do a lot about it as we had a locked bootloader.
By the time CM7 was launched we had a few ROM's on Gingerbread and much to my surprise I tend to find myself using Blurred ROM's in preference to CM7. This is by no way knocking CM7 as it is fantastic and the work the Dev's on here have put into it is awesome but for me there are upsides to Blur.
The Social Messaging widget and all in one Messaging are things that I have become reliant on. SocialScope may provide an alternative to Social Messaging but it isn't as yet as well crafted.
Do I have a backed up copy of CM7 on my SD Card ? Of course. I switch regularly but Blurred Aura is my daily driver.
Remember that we are the vast minority of people that have this phone and there are thousands of people out there that running stock happily. That is fine you seem to be bitten by the same bug that others that visit and post here though in wanting to see what the device is capable of. Do that but remember it is your phone and your set up is yours. Doesn't matter what opinion I hold or anybody else.

Yeah one thing is for sure! The old backflip blur was completely horrible but the newer atrix blur really is a hell of a lot better! I think basically everyone has gotta admit that! Blur has definetly improved since its inception! I dealt with the old blur and it sucked bad!!
As far as cm7 or blur?? I use both. I keep a nandroid backup of darkside with a little blur and cm7 and switch between them depending what I have need for at the moment. I like having all options available.

The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
WiredPirate said:
O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.
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What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.

JdgM3NT4L said:
The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
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Notification bar switches
Lockscreen option
Audio options
Performance options/enhancements
Comes free of bloatwear
Application permission filtering
Tweaks to UI
Oh and a trackpad (use of fingerprint reader as navigation trackpad on weekly 2&3)

@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
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ccrows said:
@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
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You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail

I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!

saiftheboss7 said:
I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!
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If your BL is unlocked you can try the weekly from the 23/11, its very stable and has nice features (FP scanner workes for unlock and as trackball).
here is the link:
http://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/downloads/list
Have fun

Well.....Blur does suck harder than a collapsed star...but it has some useful things to it including social media,ofcourse I don't use any of that so I went over to CM7.Blur is just really slow and bloated especially when you don't want to use any of the included apps and stuff,now if you love the features blur brings then by all means stay there then but if you want a stock android experience and want performance at the cost of a few apps here and there try some of the de-blurred roms or maybe cm7 if you want extra goodies

JdgM3NT4L said:
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
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Just a teaser of what CM REALLY ADDS to the Atrix:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
btw I took this screenshot with CM natively by holding down the 'power' button, no third party app needed.

If MOTOBLUR sucked any harder, I'd orgasm.
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againareku said:
You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail
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Funny that I don't have to deal with any of that BS on my SGS. I am the farthest thing from being a Samsung fanboy, and I use both of my phones equally. With that said, it's night and day difference of what goes on with both phones.
BTW I don't have AT&T I have Bell, and there's really not that much carrier bloat from them. The bloat that "was" there I have frozen with TiBu...
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[Q] is anyone working to get a CyanogenMod 7 or 9 for GTab 7.7 ?

i'm looking forward to see CM9 or even CM7 in this beauty to unlock its full potential and ... be free from TouchWiz

Well, I would see CM7 as big step down from the stock 3.2 OS. And, I doubt there will be a CM9 until Samsung releases an ICS update. So, maybe by May?

I think the release of ics will be near to the release of sgs2 ics .
And thats begin or end of 2nd quartal 2012.
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burhanistan said:
Well, I would see CM7 as big step down from the stock 3.2 OS. And, I doubt there will be a CM9 until Samsung releases an ICS update. So, maybe by May?
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Samsung won't issue a ICS for the original Tab but there is already a version working for it (although not final yet)
The issue is more about having a base large enough of 7.7 users and developers to make it happen, which probably won't be really soon given the fact it;s not sold yet in the US and in many other counties
That's one of the reasons why I am not in a hurry yet to replace my original Tab

Alcibiade said:
Samsung won't issue a ICS for the original Tab but there is already a version working for it (although not final yet)
The issue is more about having a base large enough of 7.7 users and developers to make it happen, which probably won't be really soon given the fact it;s not sold yet in the US and in many other counties
That's one of the reasons why I am not in a hurry yet to replace my original Tab
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Yeah, but we were talking about the 7.7 in the first place. Samsung has already indicated that it will be among the devices that it will update to ICS.
I'm running ICS on my OG 7" and it's pretty smooth, but yeah, Samsung has pretty much abandoned that device.

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Yeah, but we were talking about the 7.7 in the first place. Samsung has already indicated that it will be among the devices that it will update to ICS.
I'm running ICS on my OG 7" and it's pretty smooth, but yeah, Samsung has pretty much abandoned that device.
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The topic is about CM for the Tab 7.7
And I keep my assertion that you don't need to wait for Samsung's implementation of ICS for the Tab 7.7to ave CM on the 7.7 (And I gave as example the original tab)

xenix96 said:
I think the release of ics will be near to the release of sgs2 ics .
And thats begin or end of 2nd quartal 2012.
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Pretty much depends on whether they want to sell this beautiful device. If they don't want to sell it I would go with Q2, if they do, I would hurry up otherwise this thing will be born dead. No rational being would consider an old OS device when there are newer ones in the market (which will definitely happen before the end of Q1)
And it is pretty much clear this device needs ICS badly. If a user in a store will compare the 1.4 ghz tab to a 1.2 GHz Transformer Prime it is evident he should go with the Prime now.
Also I would say that for tablets an update is much more important than for a phone. Web browsing for example, is boosted enormously on ICS. Considering that much users buy a tablet for web browsing it would be a no brainer to boost this 1.4 GHz of 7.7" amoled goodness

Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?

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Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?
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Agreed. Just replace the launcher and you have something really good. I actually like some of the Samsung's apps (Typically the email client is fantastic and I haven't found anything that comes close to t on the market). It is the same for many other Samsung proprietary apps that work only with the Touchwiz workframe. And I regret these apps...
HOWEVER performance wise (and battery life wise) CM or other variants (I am using BOCA) are just night and day with Samsung's ROMs... Maybe the 7.7 has so much horsepower that it doesn't matter too much (although I am sure at one stage it will). But clearly for the original Tab I just cannot go back to Samsung base ROM even though I regret the apps...

Would be fantastic if I could instal ICS on it right now. Is it already possible to instal CM9 on the tab 7.7? Or maybe a "leaked" version from Samsung. Hope touchwize wont lag as much as it does now. Device is rooted.
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cm7 is based on gingerbread so does anyone really want to go from android 3.2 to 2.3?
cm9 will come to the device but as for now samsung is working on ics for sgs2.
when they finish sgs2 update they will release ics for note and g 7.7

appelflap said:
Also I would say that for tablets an update is much more important than for a phone. Web browsing for example, is boosted enormously on ICS. Considering that much users buy a tablet for web browsing it would be a no brainer to boost this 1.4 GHz of 7.7" amoled goodness
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I'm currently one of those
i'm so drooling for the Asus Prime, but... the only thing that is keeping me away from purchasing the Asus Prime, is the nVidia Tegra, which is ironic as it's the most powerful Quad core out there right now
but nVidia has bad reputation in Android for NEVER releasing source codes, no source codes = cheesy 3rd development support
and also because the Prime lacks OLED display
I might change my mind if i see CM9 for the ASUS Prime, but for now Gtab 7.7 is pretty much the nicest thing on the market with the largest SAMOLED+ HD display which is what i'm shopping for.

i'm indifferent about TW or CM
TW bonus is really on all the extra hardware codecs it comes with it, which is great if you plan to watch a lot of video on the tablet
CM on the other hand lacks those extra codecs, being AOSP based, but it makes up for it for all the build in features, settings, customization, and power
of course TW based ROMs can be OC too, but there's always all that extra stuff that are not really wanted included, all the stuff that i usually end up replacing with 3rd party apps or prefer the ones that comes from stock AOSP better.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?
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AllGamer said:
i'm indifferent about TW or CM
TW bonus is really on all the extra hardware codecs it comes with it, which is great if you plan to watch a lot of video on the tablet
CM on the other hand lacks those extra codecs, being AOSP based, but it makes up for it for all the build in features, settings, customization, and power
of course TW based ROMs can be OC too, but there's always all that extra stuff that are not really wanted included, all the stuff that i usually end up replacing with 3rd party apps or prefer the ones that comes from stock AOSP better.
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Good points indeed! Normally I'm pretty well set as long as I have root and CWM. Most of my personal customization's don't go beyond changing the launcher anyway. I do play a lot of video's so I guess that's why I'm happy with TW.
Now that I do have both root and CWM, I'm a pretty happy camper!
At this point, a TW ICS can only make things better (provided I can still keep CWM and Root of course!)