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I'm fairly adept with computers. I'm comfortable with command line-I've rooted and ROM'd all of my android phones, jailbroken ipads.
I got my kindle today and I want to install some software I have already purchased in the android market on my kindle.
I've seen the walkthroughs on Gapp installation and unrooting to keep amazon prime videos etc.
My question is how much of a risk am I taking? How well does GO-launcher run? Is the benefit at this point worth it?
Just want to hear opinions.
I rooted mine no problem. ADW, Market, and other apps running near perfect. Almost a 7" clone of my EVO 3D. Very little risk. Just be sure to read the entire thread of whatever root method you follow.
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I have sideloaded all of the google apps, all the apps I use from the market and everything else I use and have had no reason to root my tablet so far.
The only 'real' things you need to root for are for installing the market or for changing the look/feel of your tablet.
IMO, until the issues with recovery are solved, rooting opens you up to the possibility of bricking your device on accident.
I rooted mine within the first hour of having it, installed the market, then unrooted it no problem. There's always risk, but the risk was worth the benift in the end to me.
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no reason not to root it, you can always unroot it in 2 minutes. I'd stay away from trying to do anything more funky than install a launcher or the market (or apps from the market) though, at least until things are a bit ahead of where they are.
Ditto on what other posters said. Just rooting to install the Android market then unrooting should be rather safe. I've done much more including adding in support for Swype and SwiftKey X keyboards, syncing calender and gmail, using TiBackup, etc. and no problems or issues. So I think just for market then unroot should be simple and safe.
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This is exactly what I did. It's nice to have the Android Market available and by unrooting I have the Amazon Prime videos working again.
bsoplinger said:
Ditto on what other posters said. Just rooting to install the Android market then unrooting should be rather safe. I've done much more including adding in support for Swype and SwiftKey X keyboards, syncing calender and gmail, using TiBackup, etc. and no problems or issues. So I think just for market then unroot should be simple and safe.
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Use keep root from android market it works well.
Hey everyone, I'm about to get a Kindle Fire, my first ever android device. I've been a long time Apple user/jailbreaker, but so far the Android hacking community seems really confusing to me lol, anyways I have a few questions hopefully someone can answer.
1. Is there something like Cydia for Androids?
2. The new update from Amazon, 6.2.1, 'breaks root' - what is the possibility of that being fixed in the near future? What is the average time it takes for hackers to root Android devices?
3. I'm getting my Fire for Christmas, will I need to install the latest firmware to get it set-up , or is there a chance I won't be waiting for 6.2.1 to be rooted ?
4. What are some good Apps and and root tweaks?
1???????
2. with the bunch of devs we have here it will be rerooted within days i think from the new update , thats just my opinion.
3.no
4. home switcher, titanium back, ota rootkeeper, adw, go launcher, launcherplus and the most important one of all xda premium app...LOL
Thanks
1. Cydia is the Tweak store installed when you jailbreak (root in android terms) an iDevice
2 & 3. Awesome
4. Cool, I'll have to check those out
1. The Android Market
4. On top of the apps already mentioned... Root Explorer, AdFree, Angry Birds, Opera Mobile, Fruit Slice, and StumbleUpon are some good ones.
EDIT: Forget what I said about being able to root easily after the new update. I didn't realize 6.2.1 was the newest update and that it would prevent rooting via conventional methods such as SuperOneClick.
Turn off wifi as soon as you get it so it won't update, then you can root it and get the OTA file renamed to prevent the update.
Root is not the same as jailbreaking. Aneroid devices are naturally "jailbroken" because you can already sideload apps. ;-)
Definitely the XDA Premium App is one to get!
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Thanks for the replies, can the fire sideload apps without modifications then?
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Thanks for the replies, can the fire sideload apps without modifications then?
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Yes!
On the Kindle, go to Settings>Devices and set "Allow Installation of Applications" to ON
Two new Androids in one month to play with! Just picked up my new Galaxy S 2... AND I just overheard my wife talking about getting me a Fire super excited, book need meets semi tablet
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Wow - even normally unsupported apps?! Everything I've read here and seen on YouTube makes it seem like you need to root to install anything but amazon apps, so can I get the android market if when I get my fire it has the update already and then install apps from there?
I don't think you can install the Android Market without root, but that's just because you need to make it a system app.
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But I can sideload android market apps without rooting?
Also does anyone know if there's a skip hack for pandora on androids?
Yes you can sideload them as long as you have the apk.
Do a search, there are Pandora apks with unlimited skip around.
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There is now a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM in the development forum now, disable wifi and install it and you'll be set.
I am going to order KF soon, so I'm worried that it will come with 6.2.1 preinstalled. Anyone buy KF after new update?
I think they will have to sell a lot of units before new units arrive with newer versions. Last I heard, new units still had 6.0 on them and updated to 6.2 or 6.2.1 when they connected to the network via WiFi.
hope you like your Kindle is a great tablet...greetings!!!
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What are the pros and cons of a rooted KF? Actually, I mostly want an honest assessment of the cons, since I understand pretty well what the pros are (ability to install entire new ROMs now or in the future, get the Android market, etc.)
Does rooting disable the Amazon Market?
Does rooting keep me from playing Amazon Prime videos?
Does rooting disable the Amazon Cloud service?
I was hanging on to Stock because I thought the amazon prime membership might be worthwhile, but after two painful OTA updates, I'm out.
I had even frozen OTASilentInstall after 6.2.1, but the damn thing updated anyway! I can't account for this, but it did happen.
I'm backing up my stuff now and will try CM7.
For the record, 6.2.2 breaks root and you need BurritoRoot2.bin to get it back. It's a pain and doesn't yet work like the original. (As far as I can tell, you have to reset it at each reboot. Probably OTA rootkeeper will work, but still a pain.)
What was painful about 6.2.2? You can easily root it again.
I gave up on stock a long time ago lol. Running ics now.
SirVilhelm said:
What was painful about 6.2.2? You can easily root it again.
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yes, you're right. I rootEd again long enough to install CM7.
I'd just had enough jumping through hoops getting my hardware to do what I wanted it to do.
I wish companies like Amazon would understand they would do better to cooperate with users than to fight against them or treat them like fools.
Agreed, I stayed with stock after the last update and root, but not again. I guess I didn't think it would happen again so fast.
I'd drop stock in a hot second if I could get the gameloft 'Kindle Fire Edition' games to run. Sadly there's something I'm missing in the system that keeps them from running in CM7.
furtom said:
I was hanging on to Stock because I thought the amazon prime membership might be worthwhile, but after two painful OTA updates, I'm out.
I had even frozen OTASilentInstall after 6.2.1, but the damn thing updated anyway! I can't account for this, but it did happen.
I'm backing up my stuff now and will try CM7.
For the record, 6.2.2 breaks root and you need BurritoRoot2.bin to get it back. It's a pain and doesn't yet work like the original. (As far as I can tell, you have to reset it at each reboot. Probably OTA rootkeeper will work, but still a pain.)
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It's been said numerous times that freezing OTASilentInstall does not prevent updates. Also Amazon isn't trying to intentionally break your root..
this one prevented ota for me two times (6.2.1 & 6.2.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451328
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It's been said numerous times that freezing OTASilentInstall does not prevent updates. Also Amazon isn't trying to intentionally break your root..
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Yes, I read that yesterday. Hey, a lot goes on on this site! I can't keep up with every thread every day.
I should have researched preventing the OTA updates further. Like the following:
b63 said:
this one prevented ota for me two times (6.2.1 & 6.2.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451328
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Ectoplasmic said:
Agreed, I stayed with stock after the last update and root, but not again. I guess I didn't think it would happen again so fast.
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Yup. It is a pain.
On the other hand. Now that I finally flashed CM7, it's fantastic! It essentially solves the issue in one fell swoop.
It seems to me, it all comes down to how much you plan to consume Amazon's services. If little to none, then CM7 or some other rom is the way to go. If you have or want a prime account, etc. then you have to deal with the workarounds.
Fair deal.
The only thing that kept me off of CM7 is the video issue relating to audio sync. Video is around .5 to .75 seconds ahead of audio at all times on Netflix. So right now I'm running the MoDaCo stock ROM, which I don't know if it will prevent OTA updates or not, but paulobrien gives you a pre-rooted, odexed ROM that's ready to fly. Then I just use a different launcher, and it at least FEELS less stock-ish.
A little lost....I am currently rooted, If I receive the 6.2.2 and root breaks....exactly what will I need to do?
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A little lost....I am currently rooted, If I receive the 6.2.2 and root breaks....exactly what will I need to do?
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You would want to follow the instructions found here. Although, per the post from jcase here, he has an app in the works that will put the OTA headaches behind us
TesseractSpace said:
I'd drop stock in a hot second if I could get the gameloft 'Kindle Fire Edition' games to run. Sadly there's something I'm missing in the system that keeps them from running in CM7.
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I used this thread and got Order And Chaos working on CM7, runs perfect. Also, almost all the gameloft apps I was looking for showed up on the market.
The ONC I bought on the Amazon Market doesn't show up and I didn't try that one since I had picked up ONC on Android Market for .99 during the sale at New Years, so I don't know if KF edition will run. You may have to purchase them a second time.
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The only thing that kept me off of CM7 is the video issue relating to audio sync. Video is around .5 to .75 seconds ahead of audio at all times on Netflix. So right now I'm running the MoDaCo stock ROM, which I don't know if it will prevent OTA updates or not, but paulobrien gives you a pre-rooted, odexed ROM that's ready to fly. Then I just use a different launcher, and it at least FEELS less stock-ish.
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Oh, yeah, I had been using Go Launcher Ex with an ICS theme and was pretty happy with it.
The thing is, I had spent so much time setting everything up and the update undid a bunch of it, not just root. Plus it revived a lot of the bloatware I had already gotten rid of. It was enough to push me over the edge.
I backed up if I ever want to go back and I may also consider MoDaCo which looks good. MoDaCo with OTA protection would be very tempting, indeed.
I do give Amazon credit. What they did with KF, they intended to do and they did it well. It's just that I'm an inveterate tinkerer so I need my freedom! I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here on that point.
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You would want to follow the instructions found here. Although, per the post from jcase here, he has an app in the works that will put the OTA headaches behind us
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Gotcha....THANKS....will work on this this evening...
Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Man that would be great, I hope someone can break Fire OS 5.6.1.0, I would love to run the newest android OS on this Tablet. Would make a great OBDII diagnostic Tool for working on cars. :highfive:
5.6.1.0 can be rooted on the HD 10. I'm told it's rooted with dirty cow via KingoRoot. If the new fire 7s have the same kernel, there might be a possibility. As of now, it appears the HD 10 2017 had an unpatched kernel that allowed for the root. it's something Amazon has yet to fix.
When will we have root?
I have three of these and need root access for them to be worth a damn!!!!
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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capcavern said:
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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Currently the only rootable Amazon tablet is the HD 10.
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Looking forward to a root install on mine keep on rooting.
for a 69$ cost, it would be worth it if i could root and get it to do the things from google play that the fire store doesnt have. Tried two 10ionch ones and i had less than desirable results
How likely it is that this device will be rooted in the future? Look like there is no development for this product.
I’m considering to get one for my kids, but without root I prefere to select another device...
Noticed a few people say they want the root so they can install Google Play store, you can without root on the current Fire 7. Just did, you need to install the framework, account manager app, play services and then play store apk. Working, but quite slow, just got the Fire 7 so may be doing a few bits in the background updating so maybe causing the slowness.. or its just been a long time since i used a £30 tablet.. haha.
+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
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+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
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So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
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So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
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Really hoping you're able to root it.
Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
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Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
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Nearly every amazon app will consume resources. Many will reactivate after a force close. A lot of it is because of the apps.
Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I will probably try that Kindle tool or fire tablet tool, whatever it's called to cancel OTA and remove some Amazon apps.
I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
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I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
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If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
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If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
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I want to use it just for a home automation dashboard. Just bought it cause it's been 30€, so I thought it could be a good tab for the wall. With unusable, I mean I can't put it on the wall, because the lockscreen is still there. It would be kinda useless to have motion detection with a lockscreen. And rooting doesn't work, or is there a new exploit? I would really love to root it, then I can finally use it. It's just lying around right now, until it can be rooted. I've removed the OTA update thingies, so no updates will be downloaded. Also it's shut down, so no problem there. I'm on 5.4.0.0 like said, if I have to upgrade to root, I'll do that, but for now, I try to stay on the lowest version possible, so when an exploit comes, I'm prepared
I hate this tablet there needs to be a root. it runs incredibly slow and I think it's because Amazon's apps are running please find a root solution
I have seen this today by Amazon Fire HD 10 Gen 7 (2017):
https://www.amazon.de/Zertifiziert-...m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_r=VXSATV8TXBW4HXABD5VB
I have a Question for 89 € can i use it as a normal Tablet without Special Offers and can I run the Google Playstore on it?
Is it on Generation 7 able to remove Special offers and install Playstore
I need a cheap Tablet for Netflix, Amazon Prime and Skygo
Also i would like to play some Games like Punch Club should run on it
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I have seen this today by Amazon Fire HD 10 Gen 7 (2017):
https://www.amazon.de/Zertifiziert-...m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_r=VXSATV8TXBW4HXABD5VB
I have a Question for 89 € can i use it as a normal Tablet without Special Offers and can I run the Google Playstore on it?
Is it on Generation 7 able to remove Special offers and install Playstore
I need a cheap Tablet for Netflix, Amazon Prime and Skygo
Also i would like to play some Games like Punch Club should run on it
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Yes, this tablet is perfect. And you can easy root it with k4y0z method or diplomatic's method.
Thanks and how i can remove the Special Offers?
I'm not sure if this applies to newer models, but on my HD8 2016 if you never register to Amazon you never get special offers. I haven't seen one ad since I've owned it.
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Thanks and how i can remove the Special Offers?
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There are 4 ways To remove the ads, With root, you can uninstall them. A program called automate, and from what I seen through a Amazon customer service chat. Or pay the extra money.
What is the Best Way to remove this and can tell me anyone, i would like to use Prime Video ,Skygo, Netflix with this Tablet also i would like to use the normal Play Store, so whats the Best way for it?
Anyone know can I made a Custom Rom on this Tablet? is it able? Lineage OS
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What is the Best Way to remove this and can tell me anyone, i would like to use Prime Video ,Skygo, Netflix with this Tablet also i would like to use the normal Play Store, so whats the Best way for it?
Anyone know can I made a Custom Rom on this Tablet? is it able? Lineage OS
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Rooting should be the best solution.
Skygo is not working.
In this forum are you can find several thread how you do this.
No at this time there is no Custom ROM available.
I have found that for first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MciEZsWtP_k
Can I remove Root and make Skygo working?
The high request is best way to remove the special Offers and Playstore install on it thats what i need
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I'm not sure if this applies to newer models, but on my HD8 2016 if you never register to Amazon you never get special offers. I haven't seen one ad since I've owned it.
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I have never gotten ads on any amazon tablet I have owned that had special offers. The only tablet I have ever registered with Amazon is my old 8.9. Sometimes it made downloading the OTA easier.
So i shouldn´t register the Tablet and cancel the First Wirless Lan Access right?
I would like to install Playstore and my favorit Game and Netflix,Skygo and something more Apps.
Guys, before i make any changes, can i make a full backup for warranty that i can just go to restore Orignal Amazon FW without root or any changes
My suggestion is to ask amazon to remove them if you have the ad's. You don't need root to install the play store or apps you seem to be interested in. To make a full backup, you need to be rooted. But looking at what you want to do, just fire it up and use it. There is currently nothing preventing you from changing your mind and deciding to root. I don't like automate cause it is an application being used in the background. Many have reported that just contacting or emailing amazon has got their ads removed. Worst case is they charge you 10-15$ and credit is back from what the thread said. Check out the thread under general. If you don't register you wont have access to the amazon stuff (amazon video, amazon app store, and etc.
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My suggestion is to ask amazon to remove them if you have the ad's. You don't need root to install the play store or apps you seem to be interested in. To make a full backup, you need to be rooted. But looking at what you want to do, just fire it up and use it. There is currently nothing preventing you from changing your mind and deciding to root. I don't like automate cause it is an application being used in the background. Many have reported that just contacting or emailing amazon has got their ads removed. Worst case is they charge you 10-15$ and credit is back from what the thread said. Check out the thread under general. If you don't register you wont have access to the amazon stuff (amazon video, amazon app store, and etc.
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In My Case 20€ but they have kindly spend it for me so i have it unlocked and installed Playstore and now activate it.:highfive::good: Best Job =) Its better
Skygo working ,Netflix working, amazon Prime working, Nova Launcher working fine