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Is rooting worth it at this moment ?

Just wondering ...
I just got my TF, auto updated to 3.1 ... works perfectly smooth and fine ...
I'm just wondering if rooting my tablet involve has much pain in the ass has jailbreaking an iphone ... especially regarding updates ...

if you don't have a reason to root something, don't just do it because that's what the cool kids are doing.
and if you have to ask why to root, you probably don't need to.
also, this should be in general.

Probably
I don't agree with the above comment that you should only root if you know what you want it to do. Root it and explore your options. Learn something new. I believe the best reason to root is to overclock, at the moment. You also get some customization options as well (boot animation, themes, systemUI, etc...). I would recommend you root and try some different kernals and roms (I'm running Prime 1.5 and the netformer 1.5 kernal, works like a dream).
Just make sure you perform a nandroid backup before you get too crazy. Seriously, do it.
For the record, I have a jailbroken iPhone as well and the process of updating is way smoother on the transformer. Once you're familiar with the process, it probably takes 10 minutes to boot into recovery, flash the update, and reboot.

I maybe completely wrong, but essential apps like Titanium Backup needs root.
That's why I'm waiting for Nvflash version of Prime 1.5

theradec said:
I maybe completely wrong, but essential apps like Titanium Backup needs root.
That's why I'm waiting for Nvflash version of Prime 1.5
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why wait? use nvflash to install prime 1.4 and takes two extras minutes to flash prime 1.5 after that.

yeah its super easy

baseballfanz said:
why wait? use nvflash to install prime 1.4 and takes two extras minutes to flash prime 1.5 after that.
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I +1 this. Its not that hard, come on..
also this needs to be in general.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

one app make it all worth it
ADFREE
no more ads....
and Titanium backup....

I did root mine way back when because I wanted to:
- Customize
- Explore
- Remove Bloatware (not a lot when compared to cell phones)

Thread re-opened and moved to General.
Mark.

Worth it for me just for the voodoo sound kernel addons. Mmm amp boost and crystal clear sound blows my iPod out of the water.

masterfred said:
Just wondering ...
I just got my TF, auto updated to 3.1 ... works perfectly smooth and fine ...
I'm just wondering if rooting my tablet involve has much pain in the ass has jailbreaking an iphone ... especially regarding updates ...
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Jail breaking is a bit complicated,but rooting is much easier,its just dropping the files on the root of the microsd card and tap flash,thats pretty much the basics of rooting,its the developers that have it rough,thanks to them we have it easy.But yes theres good reasons to root your tab.You have overclock kernels to flash,custom roms,themes and theres more to come,i'm sure.

masterfred said:
Just wondering ...
I just got my TF, auto updated to 3.1 ... works perfectly smooth and fine...
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So then why f*** with it? so you can post later that your TF is a POS?

like the guy above said... rooting is worth it for adfree and titanium alone... even if you don't want to install a custom rom (though, how can you not want to install custom roms!!

Can't decide? Try it. It is very easy to unroot and go back if you don't like it and keep your warranty. Trust me though, I had doubts once and I will never have any again. Rooted Transformer is more awesome than it already is.

+1 for voodoo sound added to kernal.. sounds way clearer. Also root for over clock... why sit around a 1 when you can fly at 1.4 or 1.6. I have the desire HD since release also overclocked full time to take advantage of 1.4. You notice a huge difference when going back to 1ghz.
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I've had my AT&T Captivate rooted 7 ways to Sunday (currently running an unreleased 2.3.3 derivative called Cognition 5 beta 2). I just can't be bothered on my Transformer though. I haven't been motivated to really sink my teeth into the relatively easy looking process because I don't want to brick it & I'm not seeing any huge benefits yet.
I use Titanium Backup a lot on my Captivate & that's the only thing I'm missing on my Transformer. Other stuff people have mentioned don't really appeal to me at the moment. I'll probably end up rooting at some point, but no huge need for me yet.

OK you guys have me intrigued now, how do I root the TF? Also where do I get this voodoo sound thing from and what's a good overclock app?

rooting takes like 10 minutes unless you're a noob... don't see why you wouldn't want full control over your device.

The only "risk" of rooting is being tempted to deleted a bunch of bloatware and then messing something up.
However, that is what backups are for. Besides, you always learn a lot from screw ups.
Go ahead and do it! It takes longer to back up than to root.

UPDATE: Root for [Sprint, CDMA] Tab w/ Gingerbread 2.3.4 + Extras

Update:
Looks like they've got root running over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161033
Flash using ODIN, super easy!
GTALK with Video! See this post! Super easy install!:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/339390/r1-12-may-google-video-talk-installer/#entry0
If anybody knows of a way to get the crt animation going that they seemed to have removed for the tab, please post or pm! Thanks!
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Don't see a post for this, maybe this is dumb, but good to have this information east at hand for others. Please inform me if I'm wrong of if any progress is made (hopefully soon!)
There is currently no exploit out to root the Sprint Tab on 2.3.4
Super One Click Root will not work, even with GingerBreak, nor will z4root
Looking forward to some sweet progress tho!
If only I were a dev...

The phone call function is even more important for me, but seems no replacement of original phone*.apk from other devices is available now.

theamazingaustin said:
Don't see a post for this, maybe this is dumb, but good to have this information east at hand for others. Please inform me if I'm wrong of if any progress is made (hopefully soon!)
There is currently no exploit out to root the Sprint Tab on 2.3.4
Super One Click Root will not work, even with GingerBreak, nor will z4root
Looking forward to some sweet progress tho!
If only I were a dev...
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Read this.

TheATHEiST said:
Read this.
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You know were in general right?
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akmzero said:
You know were in general right?
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Because the topic has been moved

The only thing I was using root for was to remove the annoying startup and shutdown videos. There aren't any great ROMs for the Sprint Tab, and the OEM build is pretty solid, so I don't think root access is a big deal for many users at the moment.

etvaugha said:
I don't think root access is a big deal for many users at the moment.
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I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?

Has anyone else seen this.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-tab-on-android-2-3-3-gingerbread/
I have not tried it just came accross it. I only got Gingerbread running a few minutes ago.\
Edit: This is for Android 2.3.3 and NOT the current Sprint update of 2.3.4.

I'm hoping for a custom kernel with root and CWM soon, and I'd help expedite the process if someone needs a tester. Or even someone to do all the work (as long as there's some direction, i know i could manage to piece things together and compile it, i just suck with actual pure coding)
missing my Ti Backup and others as Chahk mentioned.

Next time use search before you post a question.
It was on the front page of general:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157064

I think it doesn't help that sprint's tab isn't very popular and doesn't have the developers like the GSM does. I know nothing about it but I would guess that even though people are developing roms, that finding a root exploit is a completely different animal. I'm guessing since 2.3.4 isn't on a lot of phones yet doesn't help.

Chahk said:
I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?
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Sorry...I didn't mean to bother you. I've been reading some of the GB threads over the past couple days and it seemed to me that most people weren't that bummed about losing root for the time being, myself included. I could definitely be wrong, which is why I said "I don't think". Again, sorry if I bothered you with the post.

The biggest thing I miss is tethering from the phone.

Chahk said:
I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?
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If youre on Gingerbread, root access isnt that important to you.
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I'm going back to 2.2 until root is achieved for 2.3.4. I mainly got the tab so I could tether on the go. Having to find wifi while out and about when you want to get online is difficult sometimes. If you're lucky to find open and free, many times they have ports blocked. You can only 80 or 8080. I've got wd live and roku and boxee for Netflix and crap.

im definately frustrated i dont have root. i want to put some apks in system/app and cant through crippled file explorers. also, i want to start pushing out some themes. the SGT has gotten little love and that needs to change. i was holding out on FROYO cause i knew it wouldnt be long till everyone was on GB. ive been talking with DRockstar about getting a cwm put together specifically for the SGT and that should get things rolling.
please give me your feedback.

Chahk said:
I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?
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All those, plus I really miss Root Explorer. Guess we're just being picky, by what some are concluding here...

toonvox said:
All those, plus I really miss Root Explorer. Guess we're just being picky, by what some are concluding here...
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Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.

etvaugha said:
Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.
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so you are using netflix now?

etvaugha said:
Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.
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One of the first things I did with root was adjust the pixel density in the build.prop file so the icons didn't look so cartoonish. If the GB update breaks that and I can't fix it, then it might kills me. With the larger icons, the Zeam launcher doesn't even look right at all.

[Q] Where is the GB OTA update stored?

So I've searched and everyone seems to say that the OTA updates are stored in the cache folder. I've looked there and don't see it (there's nothing at all in the cache folder).
I've been on Froyo with Syndicate Frozen ROM and am quite happy with things as they are. But my phone decided to automatically download the new update and it's been bugging me about installing it.
I've since blocked the SystemUpdate.apk and it doesn't bother me every 15 minutes like it used to, but when I reboot the phone it still tells me that it's been downloaded and is ready to install.
I don't suppose it's that big of a deal to just disregard the message on the rare occasion of a reboot, but still.. I'd like to delete the file from wherever it's been stored so it never bothers me about it again.
I'm using Adao File Manager if it matters. I'll try root explorer if I have to, but just don't like needlessly installing apps.
Thanks =)

Sooo, you don't like gingerbread?
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Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.

sephiroth009 said:
Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.
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I thought I was the only one that felt this way! Lol
Yeah I have the same problem - how did you block systemupdate.apk ?

xopher.hunter said:
Sooo, you don't like gingerbread?
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I like my custom ROM and the way things are set up now. Until I can, with little effort, upgrade to gingerbread while also keeping everything the same-- no, I don't like gingerbread. =)
sephiroth009 said:
Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.
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altimuh said:
I thought I was the only one that felt this way! Lol
Yeah I have the same problem - how did you block systemupdate.apk ?
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I used Gemini App Manager (it's free in the market). You have to enable USB debugging for a while while you do this. Download it, open it, menu>Expert Mode, scroll down to system update, long press, block app.
You can do something similar with Titanium if you have it, but Gemini is free in the market.
Like I said, it hasn't been bugging me every 15 minutes like it used to, so this is decent solution for the time being, but every time I restart it bugs me about it again. I'd prefer to delete it so I don't have to worry about accidentally pressing okay.

I haven't actually blocked/frozen it yet, it takes me half a second to hit install later but I'm thinking about freezing it. And I get the feeling there may be a gb rom worth flashing in a few days (keeping an eye on you starsky for that theme =P).
EDIT: oh I heard the ota may also be in data/cache
EDIT 2.0: my update is sitting right in /cache

Apparently Adeo doesn't see the update. I installed Root Explorer, found and removed the update. Still pops up on every reboot. Very annoying. =\
I'm tempted to make a nandroid backup and press install just to see what happens.

[Q] So let me get this straight...

If I root my Fire and Amazon decides to update again, it will **** it up and I will have to root it again? Every time my Fire gets and update?

Yes....
It is easy to reroot using SuperOneClick since it was already setup initially to root. Takes maybe 20 seconds. All apps are intact in data/app. Market may or not need to be re-copied over to system/app. No biggie.

Thanks. Also what will happen when I eventually get ICS for it? Will I still have to worry about updates from Amazon?

Once a custom ROM is installed, Amazon updates from or via Amazon are no more.
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Thank you very much for your help. Good to know. Looks like I'll wait to root until until ICS is ready.

CodenameDeadpool said:
Thank you very much for your help. Good to know. Looks like I'll wait to root until until ICS is ready.
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If ICS comes to the device. You might keep an eye out for a working port instead. Have not read any confirmed report that Amazon will release officially but may have missed it if so. Regardless a dev port might well be available before anything else.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379208
One guy's already got it up and running. He just has to get the bugs out. You haven't heard? And no, since the OS on the fire is a heavily modified version of Gingerbread, I don't think Amazon would've taken the time to build all of that unless they were going to stick with it. BUT, like I said a ROM is almost ready.

CodenameDeadpool said:
If I root my Fire and Amazon decides to update again, it will **** it up and I will have to root it again? Every time my Fire gets and update?
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I have rooted mine and made some changes, but then I unroot it so I still have access to Amazon video on demand, etc. I root it again when I need to make updates. Only takes a few seconds. Unrooting doesn't undo the changes you make.

[Q] Why root?

Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
I see a lot of stuff on this forum about rooting however and I'm curious what the practical benafits to rooting are. I origionally had planned to route the iconia because I heard it didn't support netflix but the netflix app seems to work fine on my device so I'm happy there.
There were a lot of things that made me want to route my phone (Samsung Epic) such as the desire to tether other devices to it and get rid of all the Samsung, pre-istalled BS and Touch Wiz which made the phone run slowly. Those considerations don't exist here as Honey Comb seems to be plenty fast and there doesn't appear to be many BS additions from Acer.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?

I rooted my a500 so I could connect to ad-hoc networks and use ntfs drives.
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MalachiX said:
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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It is a very personal question in the sense that there is no one, single reason why people root. I for example rooted because I needed ad-hoc wifi, otherwise I could have well survived without rooting. Once I did root my tablet I did of course install CWM so I can take a full backup of the whole thing -- better safe than sorry, as they say -- and tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
Just ask yourself: is there anything I need root for?

I think I root for a few different reasons.
ClockworkMod for nandroid backup and other things.
Titanium backup for app/data backup and easy bloat remove/restore.
AdFree
overclocking and other performance adjustments
Cifs/Samba support - I have 3 androids with share links on my PC desktop for drag-n-drop file copying without wires.
Root explorer of course.
Drive mount seems to need it.
Oh and theming - I like to theme and make small code changes.

Essentially, if you need to ask that question, you don't need to root your device....
You'll know when you need to...

WereCatf said:
....tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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ipetloudog said:
No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?

Thanks for the advice everyone.
I was all set to root because I heard that Netflix wasn't functioning on the Iconia and rooting was easy.
Now I find that Netflix works fine and apparently I shouldn't have let my tablet update when I first turned it on.
Guess I'll leave my Iconia alone for now.

WereCatf said:
What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
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Did you try to get help with the buggies? People are pretty helpful around here. I'm running Honeylicious Icy something and it seems to be perfect so far.

id be waiting for ICS
MalachiX said:
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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One word really - titanium - there is just no better way to make a full backup.
But having said that - with all the rumors of ICS withing maybe weeks - rooting may not be such a good idea right now ... most OTA updates do tend to have issues with rooted devices.
Westa

why root
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.

Havent seen a reason yet to root my A500 as it does everything I want, possibly if I got a wildhair and wanted to install a custom rom. On the other hand I bought a Kindle Fire and I rooted it and had a custom rom installed withing a week, primarily to make it more like my Acer.

beebleboop said:
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.

I just got mine and always thought I would root it, but I don't see the point yet.
I rooted my Evo so that I can remove bloat, increase battery life, and most important wirelessly tether with my tablet.
The battery life on my tablet seems amazing, honeycomb seems fast and the bloat doesn't bother me as much.
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Honeybar!!!

i rooted and installed thors rom, its awesome.
No real reason either, I just know from past experience every device is made more enjoyable with the right rom.
Plus with ics coming soon ill have to be able to backup my data to survive the upgrade.

I find out About Rooting (or unlocking) before I buy any device
#1 Freezing Apps (like Deleting, only safer -Titanium Backup)
#2 OverClocking to 1.5 Ghz and still being stable (up to 1.64)
#3 Under clock (216,245 mhz) (saving battery life)
#4 fun to be "ABLE" to tweak out something.
#5 Example : -a new trick to get better Wi-Fi or 3G Signal, or better GPS (you'll need ROOT to edit system data)
KNOWING that you can always get back to stock in under 5-7 min (if you have to bring in device)
Leaves you a better question.
"Why have you NOT ROOTED it yet?"

MalachiX said:
Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
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Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.

I just got this tablet for Xmas, well the Packard bell one but from my understanding there the same. I still need to root mine. I've heard that you can connect a ps3 control if your rooted. Is this the only requirement?
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civato said:
Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
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OMG very funny.. Sounds like one of my Long winded Quick unedited or checked post. with no spell check or punctuation ......
With that said..
I think if you have to ask WHY ROOT your device.. My Question is what Does your device not do that you need? And will rooting the device solve this for you..
its risk vs benefits . the oldest Android Question in the book .. Should i foot.. or should i not foot...