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New Xoom User

Hey, I just picked up my Xoom from Futureshop yesterday. I am in Canada and it is the WiFi only version.
I see there are many threads on Rooting and all that good stuff. My issue like always is there is too much information. I can never find what I want, or be 100% sure it's what I need.
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now? Are there any useful and good ROMs for it yet? What other reason should I do it, I have rooted and installed ROMs on my Desire for ever now and the only benefit I see is the ROMs and a couple apps, yet I think I am missing a point lol
Second, for my North American (Canadian) WiFi only Xoom, which rooting steps and files do I need/follow? Thanks
Thirdly, excluding the Google applications and Games (because I already have them) what are some apps that support tablets currently? Also, what cool things are you doing with your Xoom?
Thanks.

bmancell said:
Hey, I just picked up my Xoom from Futureshop yesterday. I am in Canada and it is the WiFi only version.
I see there are many threads on Rooting and all that good stuff. My issue like always is there is too much information. I can never find what I want, or be 100% sure it's what I need.
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now? Are there any useful and good ROMs for it yet? What other reason should I do it, I have rooted and installed ROMs on my Desire for ever now and the only benefit I see is the ROMs and a couple apps, yet I think I am missing a point lol
Second, for my North American (Canadian) WiFi only Xoom, which rooting steps and files do I need/follow? Thanks
Thirdly, excluding the Google applications and Games (because I already have them) what are some apps that support tablets currently? Also, what cool things are you doing with your Xoom?
Thanks.
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This thread is definitely in the wrong section!
But I'll answer the first question:
The main reason I rooted was to overclock to 1.5 GHz. I also did it because I know that eventually I'll want to try out a custom ROM or run some other SU apps somewhere down the road. I also wanted USB host capabilities. As far as I know though, there aren't any custom ROMs yet, but there is a custom kernel, Tiamat. I haven't tried it yet, because I've been content with the stock OC kernel.

Oh crap, yea I didn't notice I was still in this section. Sorry, please move MOD.
Thanks for the reply. Overclocking eh? Will that destroy my CPU/device quicker or any other bad side effects?
And link to do that with my version?

Moved to general.
Generally, 1.5 GHz seems to be tolerated very well by the majority of XOOMs. If you notice random pauses, lockups, or restarts, tone it down a little bit.
You will likely notice a little additional battery drain, but as long as you're not on "performance" governor in SetCPU, you'll be fine for the most part.

bmancell said:
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now?
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Screenshot ER is a good reason Lets you take screenshots (no kidding!) without adb. I also have some other apps that need root like Root explorer.
EDIT: You might also want to ask: Why should I NOT root? Sometimes it helps to see both sides but I haven't found any disadvantage.

Ok, so I found this thread which seems to be my model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010568
Instructions aren't exactly clear, I know it takes time but why do people not do step by step, pictures even. Geez.
And where do I get this overclock stuff?
Thanks

One Click Root
The is pretty much the easies way to root your xoom. A one click method, and also unroot it back to stock if anything need to be done, like take it for repair to motorola or the upgrade for lite. It works for both wifi only and 3G. Just make sure you click the correct method for your kind of device.
There is also videos out there on youtube and google with it being done, that's how I got mine done. And more of a visual guy.
Here is the link from here on XDA, good luck. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011196
Here is a link to the video I use, these guys have videos on both rooting and unrooting, enjoy fellow Xoom. http://theunlockr.com/2011/03/30/how-to-root-the-motorola-xoom-wifi-or-3g-one-click-method/

Well there we go! lol
Thanks a bunch.
I assume once I am rooted I just install that SetCPU app and play with it?

Best reason to root? Ad-blocking hosts file!

same thing here...wifi only in canada. I used one-click root ... click ok like 15 times and you're done!

one click rooting, nice! I'm new to all this rooting stuff........so that might just push me over the edge!

Other than ad blocking, not really. I haven't root'd mine.
Sent from my Captivate

Yea the part that gets me is the ability to unroot and put back to stock, just in case I need my warranty.

yeah the ability to unroot is the best thing since the xoom. Lol. Cuz you can always go back to original. Just a side note be very careful with that setCPU' it can be useful, and hurtful.the xoom is fast already, but. I mean as other have said, it is safe to an extend, but I would keep it that hight. One becauxe of battery life, and two because it could become an issue. I think if it was totally safe to clock that might, motorola would have been the one to do so, and would have put this device out the as having a 1.5Ghz processor. So just be careful, and as soon as you notice anything not right or normal, head for the door. Lol. (Go back to stock)

A-men.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

bmancell said:
Ok, so I found this thread which seems to be my model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010568
Instructions aren't exactly clear, I know it takes time but why do people not do step by step, pictures even. Geez.
And where do I get this overclock stuff?
Thanks
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I also bought my xoom at future shop. I used that link above to root my xoom and now im overclocking as well.

Do rooting enable the "Market Enabler" app?? and if the answer is yes, do this app fix the problem of the missing apps by hacking the market provider to [US] Verizon??????

It needs root and busybox. Basically, it lets you set your carrier to any carrier you like to fool the market.
It is often used by people who's countries don't provide market access.
Since I don't have a XOOM yet I can't vouch for its functionality on there but I don't see why it shouldn't work.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

only 3g
I believe the above comment is correct. And as a side note I think the above app is only going to work with the 3G Xoom, not the Wifi only version. Because of the celluler radio. I have heard that both the wifi and 3g have a radio, because even the wifi version has a sim card slot, due to it being combine with the micro sd card. If this proof to be true, it could be a good deal for use with the wifi only. Cuz that means I pay $200 less. And if it is there, motorola will likely not make it active. But then once the codes are release, folk on XDA will make that dream a reality.

Don't count on that slot working on the wifi model. The important hardware like the radio will likely not he there.
The only reason the slot is there is because its combined with the SD slot and it would be costly and pointless for them to source an alternative socket just for the wifi model.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

About to get an atrix, Any suggestions?

i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001

dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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I can answer some of these but not all as I'm sort of a n00b.
Is rooting the same? Yes, pretty much.
2.3 out? It's not out yet, but in a few weeks.
Is it worth it? Well I am an ex iPhone 4 user, and it's pretty worth it! I am going to be honest though, without having a case, its a you know what to not get scratches even when taking good care of it. Also the build feels cheap if your coming from a more solid phone. this phone is ALL plastic, but its the stuff inside that counts. Also just miss my iPhone 4, lol. it's all i was used to for 3 years.
Personal problems, some apps like facebook dont check in properly, more than 70 percent of the time it doesn't work. GPS is among the best i've seen however, locking on almost instantly. umm camera quality sucks, but the phone is pretty consistent with flash and plays pretty awesome . fast fast fast phone. it has its quirks though, however if your an android user and know what its about, it's probably the phone for you!

Rooting requires downgrading firmware then upgrading to maintain root, iirc.
GB will be released soon no eta though.
Bootloader bypass is being worked on as we speak, 2nd init is working but needs roms.
Right now is the time to get this phone, with the devs working on so many solutions to Moto and Att's lockdown the potential of this phone is incredible.
Also with Netflix coming soon and the qhd display it will get even better, however the yellows on this display seem a little greenish, and has miffed a few people, but I really don't pay much attention to it.
The only problems I have seen is random reboots, all from apps not optimized for this phone.
As far as camera quality, IMO it is the best camera quality I have seen on a phone and that include the iphone4, video is great, the only thing it lacks is stock camera customizing i.e. lens effects, more color options ect., easily rectified with apps.
This is the best phone I have ever owned and would recommend it to anyone looking for something for in a phone.
Sent from my Moto Atrix

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dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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1. Yes you can, prob comes down to personal preference.
2. No. I am very happy with the GladRoot method. Do this BEFORE you accept the OTAs.
3. I dont know of a link or have a list sorry.
4. Its coming. Dont listen to everybody anybody in the forum who thinks a few peoples speculations are fact. The fact is Moto has NOT given a date for GB on the Atrix.
5. Its worth it!! Join the party.
6. List of root apps for the Atrix.

dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
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Unfortunately u cant bcoz its more than a skin.. its entrenched within the OS. However freezing apps like Social Networking which are from Motoblur and installing a Lanucher gets rid of most of the problem. You can definitely root. Gingerbreak works flawlessly.
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
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There is Gingerbread leak and I think you can expect a release date of july.
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dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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-You can disable motoblur by installing a pseudo-rom (i suggest gingerblur) or by using third party launcher (i.e. launcher pro) and freezing motoblur through titanium backup.
-Rooting actually is kinda the same(ish). You don't have to root before you ota. You can ota to 1.83 and use gingerbreak to root it. Use this link to install gingerbreak on you phone, http://atrix4ghacks.com/atrix-4g-hacks/how-to-root-atrix-4g/ then run gingerbreak from phone to one click root.
-Gingerbread is coming out in like a few weeks. You can check out the gb preview thread in android dev.
-its worth it
-um it doesn't come with stock headphones, but they sound just as good as iphone with any headphoens.
-call quality is good
one issue it has is that it kinda gets warm (or hot if using for a long time), especially around the bottom portion. oddly it doesn't get nearly as hot on the lower back of the phone as it does at the lower front glass of the phone.
hope i helped

I wouldn't do anything other than root and enable sideloading. Be sure to get the Amazon marketplace for the one free app a day. Most are garbage, but some (like the Nuance FlexT9 keyboard are great. I think Motoblur is fine, despite what many say. Decide for yourself if it really doesn't fit with how you use it. I just chose not to add my facebook account. It works fine in my experience.

Just Purchased G2 need advice/tips

I'm new to the whole smartphone/android market. I just received a G2 and wanted to know how to fully take advantage of all the features. What do you guys recommend, what apps should I download, updates, etc.
Thanks

Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Nospin said:
Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?

Alright so here we go!
For root you want This Guide with Gefree/Visionary Read it several times, get root.
Install Rom Manager, Flash Clockwork Mod with this.
Good launchers to try are: Launcher Pro, ADW.
Good Apps are: GPS Status, Quadrant Free, Set Cpu (paid), Juice Defender, Adgree, Juice Plotter, SeePu, Shootme (for screengrabs), Wifi Analyser (to see strength of various wifi networks), Barcode Scanner (for QR Codes among others), Speetest, and lastly AdFree. You also should consider getting the Busybox Installer and Titanium Backup so you can back your applications up when you inevitably....
...Install a custom rom. There are a ton of roms to choose from. All of them have various merits and downsides. Personally for the beginner I always suggest CM 6.1.1 to get familiar with the idea of custom roms as it is super stable and not a huge departure from stock Froyo. A good rule of thumb when flashing roms is to (after making a nandroid backup in clockwork mod, accessed by pwr+vol down) always do a full wipe of phone data and cache. So many rom installs are messed up by not fully wiping your phone prior. I always run two full wipes and two cache wipes.
Depending on how you like your interface, you can select a ton of different roms through Rom Manager or downloading them right out of our android dev section. As with all things, always do your research. Read the damn thread to find out any bugs. The devs here are not infallible and frankly, some of them do a darn shoddy job in throwing together whatever the hell it is they want to call a rom over the weekend while absolutely trashed on Milwaukee's Beast.
Prospective roms are:
Virtuous 2.1: A clean SenseUI rom that is very predictable in battery life and sense experience.
Virtuous G-Free: A stripped down Gingerbread rom built by the same gentleman as Virtuous.
Virtuous 3.0 Sense: A sense 3.0 port that hasn't been updated in a while. Who knows if it is any good.
Cyanogen Mod 6: A nice retooling of froyo 2.2.x, this rom is incredibly stable and has very good battery life with preshoots kernel.
Cyanogen Mod 7: This is a retooling of Gingerbread 2.3.x, not as stable in my experience, however I know this will get better. Okay battery life, 7.0.3 is not as **** as 7.0. Wait till the next major update of 7.1 drops before flashing this rom.
I cannot speak for any of the other roms out here. I only say that you should always do your research and make sure to do nandroid backups. If you brick your phone, that really sucks cause the g2 kicks all sorts of ass
Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.

Pump Fake said:
Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?
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One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.

slapshot30 said:
One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz

slapshot30 said:
One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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Btw their already is a rooted version of the final gingerbread rom. Just thought i'd throw that out there.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

IMO The best benefits to having a rooted device are
1) root-only apps like setcpu (but don't use this if the ROM/kernel has built-in cpu management), titanium backup (best backup app ever, hands down), themeing, etc
2) remove bloatware apps
3) custom ROM. think of it as a modified OS. they usually run faster, have little to no bloat, in most cases have better battery life, and have added functionality (cyanogenmod, especially)
without root, the best thing you can do is find great apps like home replacements aka launchers such as ADWLauncher (free version of the superior ADW Launcher EX), LauncherPro, etc
if you're new to Android you may not know that you can browse apps on your computer here https://market.android.com/ and whenever you click "install" it will automatically start downloading and installing on your phone!
a root method was mentioned previously, but I will have to recommend a different one considered to be the safest and most up to date by most.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
the whole wiki is a very good read. if you do root, read it thoroughly (multiple times if necessary) and learn how to join #g2root on IRC to get real-time chat support with other xda members

So rooting helps me have a device that has much better performance. Sounds great to me, I'll look into it.
Is there anyway to get free apps etc? Don't ever want to pay haha.
Also what other tips do you guys have to take advantage of a smartphone?

Word of advice: the xda forums heavily frown upon those who promote or even mention pirated apps. These forums are powered by developers who put in their time and effort for average-joe users like us to use, free of charge! Donations are encouraged when possible. If you spent hundreds of hours writing an app and working out the bugs, I don't think you'd like it if someone downloaded your paid app for free. I didn't mean for this to sound like a lecture but just think about it, and if you're still interested you'll have to look elsewhere, as distributing pirated apps is against the xda forum rules.
Also if you're new to smartphones, you probably realized with added functionality such as facebook, twitter, gmail, and syncing of EVERYTHING possible, your battery life not as good as before you had a smartphone. In general keep account syncing/internet usage below unnecessary levels to save on battery life, among other things

silverwind said:
You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz
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Thanks I regularly try to do that with new phones so I don't have to ask a bunch of dumb questions or brick my phone.
And to xsteven77x (my multi-quote isn't behaving at the moment), I was not aware that a final GB rooted ROM was out... I thought they were only test ones. Would you mind posting a link to that?
EDIT: Is this the ROM you're talking about? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852
It was leaked so how are they sure it's the final one?

If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.

ethanj93 said:
If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.
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Highly recommend meXdroid V4.1 rom. Fast, eye candy galore, and constant developer support and updating.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

astriaos said:
Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.
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This made me LMAO!

I like mexdroid rom, its combined with CM7 and it has a lot of customizations in it.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I am recommending to watch Virtuous Unity if you want to have HTC Sense 3.0. It's still being updated and fixed up from all the bugs, but I think the rom will be really good after the devs work the kinks out.

[Q] Why root?

Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
I see a lot of stuff on this forum about rooting however and I'm curious what the practical benafits to rooting are. I origionally had planned to route the iconia because I heard it didn't support netflix but the netflix app seems to work fine on my device so I'm happy there.
There were a lot of things that made me want to route my phone (Samsung Epic) such as the desire to tether other devices to it and get rid of all the Samsung, pre-istalled BS and Touch Wiz which made the phone run slowly. Those considerations don't exist here as Honey Comb seems to be plenty fast and there doesn't appear to be many BS additions from Acer.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?

I rooted my a500 so I could connect to ad-hoc networks and use ntfs drives.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App

MalachiX said:
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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It is a very personal question in the sense that there is no one, single reason why people root. I for example rooted because I needed ad-hoc wifi, otherwise I could have well survived without rooting. Once I did root my tablet I did of course install CWM so I can take a full backup of the whole thing -- better safe than sorry, as they say -- and tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
Just ask yourself: is there anything I need root for?

I think I root for a few different reasons.
ClockworkMod for nandroid backup and other things.
Titanium backup for app/data backup and easy bloat remove/restore.
AdFree
overclocking and other performance adjustments
Cifs/Samba support - I have 3 androids with share links on my PC desktop for drag-n-drop file copying without wires.
Root explorer of course.
Drive mount seems to need it.
Oh and theming - I like to theme and make small code changes.

Essentially, if you need to ask that question, you don't need to root your device....
You'll know when you need to...

WereCatf said:
....tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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ipetloudog said:
No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?

Thanks for the advice everyone.
I was all set to root because I heard that Netflix wasn't functioning on the Iconia and rooting was easy.
Now I find that Netflix works fine and apparently I shouldn't have let my tablet update when I first turned it on.
Guess I'll leave my Iconia alone for now.

WereCatf said:
What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
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Did you try to get help with the buggies? People are pretty helpful around here. I'm running Honeylicious Icy something and it seems to be perfect so far.

id be waiting for ICS
MalachiX said:
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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One word really - titanium - there is just no better way to make a full backup.
But having said that - with all the rumors of ICS withing maybe weeks - rooting may not be such a good idea right now ... most OTA updates do tend to have issues with rooted devices.
Westa

why root
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.

Havent seen a reason yet to root my A500 as it does everything I want, possibly if I got a wildhair and wanted to install a custom rom. On the other hand I bought a Kindle Fire and I rooted it and had a custom rom installed withing a week, primarily to make it more like my Acer.

beebleboop said:
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.

I just got mine and always thought I would root it, but I don't see the point yet.
I rooted my Evo so that I can remove bloat, increase battery life, and most important wirelessly tether with my tablet.
The battery life on my tablet seems amazing, honeycomb seems fast and the bloat doesn't bother me as much.
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Honeybar!!!

i rooted and installed thors rom, its awesome.
No real reason either, I just know from past experience every device is made more enjoyable with the right rom.
Plus with ics coming soon ill have to be able to backup my data to survive the upgrade.

I find out About Rooting (or unlocking) before I buy any device
#1 Freezing Apps (like Deleting, only safer -Titanium Backup)
#2 OverClocking to 1.5 Ghz and still being stable (up to 1.64)
#3 Under clock (216,245 mhz) (saving battery life)
#4 fun to be "ABLE" to tweak out something.
#5 Example : -a new trick to get better Wi-Fi or 3G Signal, or better GPS (you'll need ROOT to edit system data)
KNOWING that you can always get back to stock in under 5-7 min (if you have to bring in device)
Leaves you a better question.
"Why have you NOT ROOTED it yet?"

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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
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Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.

I just got this tablet for Xmas, well the Packard bell one but from my understanding there the same. I still need to root mine. I've heard that you can connect a ps3 control if your rooted. Is this the only requirement?
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civato said:
Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
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OMG very funny.. Sounds like one of my Long winded Quick unedited or checked post. with no spell check or punctuation ......
With that said..
I think if you have to ask WHY ROOT your device.. My Question is what Does your device not do that you need? And will rooting the device solve this for you..
its risk vs benefits . the oldest Android Question in the book .. Should i foot.. or should i not foot...

[Q] Root before ICS or not?

Hi All,
I tried searching for some answers as to the benefits of rooting the tf101, but my searching skills have failed me and I am coming up empty. Now with ICS coming so soon I feel completely under the gun to make this decision and not research things as completely as I usually would. I am no stranger to rooting; I have a rooted Thunderbolt running a BAMF rom and I have a Nook Color rooted and running CM7. In both of those cases there was a clear reason to root. I wanted to overclock and debloat the Thunderbolt and I wanted to unlock the NOOK to a fuller potential. I have only had the transfomer for a week and so I have not really put it through its paces or identified all of its quirks, but so far it is running like a champ. Why did all of you that have rooted do so? What am I missing by running stock?
TIA! XDA is the technology savior for a middle-aged Kansas soccer mom such as myself who wants to use her tech tools the their fullest advantage!

Root now or forever hold your piece.

If you don't root now and use OTA Rootkeeper before you install ICS, you will have to wait until someone in the Dev community can figure out a root method, and who knows how long that will be. You're better off doing it in advance, instead of being stuck without.

best idea is to root now and then wait for a few days while the great devs get a custom rom or a pure root rom. if you dont then you might be stuck with an unrootable ICS and now that the device has been out for a while everyone who has wanted to root has so there is verry little incentive to find a new method

I understand it could be now or never. What I am not clear on is what functionality I gain by rooting. Is it similar to my phone and NOOK in that I overclock and get better battery life. Is there bloat that I should remove? Are those that are rooting also roming their tablets? If so, is that interface a marked improvement or just different?

miss chris said:
I understand it could be now or never. What I am not clear on is what functionality I gain by rooting. Is it similar to my phone and NOOK in that I overclock and get better battery life. Is there bloat that I should remove? Are those that are rooting also roming their tablets? If so, is that interface a marked improvement or just different?
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If you cant find a reason to root then you might not need it.
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You can overclock your 1ghz cpu to 1.2 ghz (max is 1.6ghz I believe) or more to get better performance, you can use titanium backup to remove asus apps you may not use, and you can install things like adaway or LBE privacy guard if you like. Also, some anti-theft apps like Avast or Prey work better with root. Those are just some of the things I do on my tablet with root.

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You can overclock your 1ghz cpu to 1.2 ghz (max is 1.6ghz I believe) or more to get better performance, you can use titanium backup to remove asus apps you may not use, and you can install things like adaway or LBE privacy guard if you like. Also, some anti-theft apps like Avast or Prey work better with root. Those are just some of the things I do on my tablet with root.
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Thank you! This is the kind of information I was looking for.

Another big one for those who hate the honeycomb status bar, you need root for the different apps that hide it, apps like Honeybar. Personally I use hidebar. http://ppareit.github.com/HideBar/
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Well I did not root my Transformer because I did not see a need. I rooted my Galaxy S because it was really easy to do. On the transformer however it's a lot more difficult because you need to do something with ADB or whatever. Did not really look into it that much but yeah. Now I do not have to worry of bricking my tablet when I install ICS on it since it's stock and clean

Definitely not hard to root on the Transformer.. or at least the slightly older models... it's been a long time since I rooted it, but all you had to do was enter one or two commands in Linux to root it?

I didn't see a need to root my epic4g, but the moment I did I wished I had months ago..I guess I was just scared, I wanted to think my phone was as good as it could be preroot, and I was afraid to do it. The only benefit to waiting, for me anyhow, was that the custom roms available when I bought the phone were early and underdeveloped..tf101 custom roms are fine as of now. Perfectly stable for what I use it for. I recommend the krakd rom personally, but prime and revolver were nice as well.

Another benefit of rooting is Voodoo-sound if you use your tablet for anything remotely related to audio.
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Definitely not hard to root on the Transformer.. or at least the slightly older models... it's been a long time since I rooted it, but all you had to do was enter one or two commands in Linux to root it?
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That's only true for the earliest batches where people can use nvflash.
There's lots of people out there which needs an actual exploitable/hackable firmware for rooting it. To these people, once the hole is closed, they wont be able to root.
So yeah. Better root now or remain forever silent.

Okay, I am convinced and will be rooting soon. Now off to figure out how the heck to do that. Seems like nachoroot or viper prime might be what I am looking for. Thanks for all that replied.

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Another benefit of rooting is Voodoo-sound if you use your tablet for anything remotely related to audio.
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That's only true for the earliest batches where people can use nvflash.
There's lots of people out there which needs an actual exploitable/hackable firmware for rooting it. To these people, once the hole is closed, they wont be able to root.
So yeah. Better root now or remain forever silent.
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Though fortunately it's not hard to get back to .19 right now and then root using Razorclaw, which works on all models.