[Q] Getting a Kindle for Christmas :) - Kindle Fire General

Hey everyone, I'm about to get a Kindle Fire, my first ever android device. I've been a long time Apple user/jailbreaker, but so far the Android hacking community seems really confusing to me lol, anyways I have a few questions hopefully someone can answer.
1. Is there something like Cydia for Androids?
2. The new update from Amazon, 6.2.1, 'breaks root' - what is the possibility of that being fixed in the near future? What is the average time it takes for hackers to root Android devices?
3. I'm getting my Fire for Christmas, will I need to install the latest firmware to get it set-up , or is there a chance I won't be waiting for 6.2.1 to be rooted ?
4. What are some good Apps and and root tweaks?

1???????
2. with the bunch of devs we have here it will be rerooted within days i think from the new update , thats just my opinion.
3.no
4. home switcher, titanium back, ota rootkeeper, adw, go launcher, launcherplus and the most important one of all xda premium app...LOL

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1. Cydia is the Tweak store installed when you jailbreak (root in android terms) an iDevice
2 & 3. Awesome
4. Cool, I'll have to check those out

1. The Android Market
4. On top of the apps already mentioned... Root Explorer, AdFree, Angry Birds, Opera Mobile, Fruit Slice, and StumbleUpon are some good ones.
EDIT: Forget what I said about being able to root easily after the new update. I didn't realize 6.2.1 was the newest update and that it would prevent rooting via conventional methods such as SuperOneClick.

Turn off wifi as soon as you get it so it won't update, then you can root it and get the OTA file renamed to prevent the update.
Root is not the same as jailbreaking. Aneroid devices are naturally "jailbroken" because you can already sideload apps. ;-)
Definitely the XDA Premium App is one to get!
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Thanks for the replies, can the fire sideload apps without modifications then?

MDG420 said:
Thanks for the replies, can the fire sideload apps without modifications then?
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Yes!
On the Kindle, go to Settings>Devices and set "Allow Installation of Applications" to ON

Two new Androids in one month to play with! Just picked up my new Galaxy S 2... AND I just overheard my wife talking about getting me a Fire super excited, book need meets semi tablet
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Wow - even normally unsupported apps?! Everything I've read here and seen on YouTube makes it seem like you need to root to install anything but amazon apps, so can I get the android market if when I get my fire it has the update already and then install apps from there?

I don't think you can install the Android Market without root, but that's just because you need to make it a system app.
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But I can sideload android market apps without rooting?
Also does anyone know if there's a skip hack for pandora on androids?

Yes you can sideload them as long as you have the apk.
Do a search, there are Pandora apks with unlimited skip around.
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There is now a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM in the development forum now, disable wifi and install it and you'll be set.

I am going to order KF soon, so I'm worried that it will come with 6.2.1 preinstalled. Anyone buy KF after new update?

I think they will have to sell a lot of units before new units arrive with newer versions. Last I heard, new units still had 6.0 on them and updated to 6.2 or 6.2.1 when they connected to the network via WiFi.

hope you like your Kindle is a great tablet...greetings!!!
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What are the pros and cons of a rooted KF? Actually, I mostly want an honest assessment of the cons, since I understand pretty well what the pros are (ability to install entire new ROMs now or in the future, get the Android market, etc.)
Does rooting disable the Amazon Market?
Does rooting keep me from playing Amazon Prime videos?
Does rooting disable the Amazon Cloud service?

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Should I root my kindle fire now?

Little background.
I'm fairly adept with computers. I'm comfortable with command line-I've rooted and ROM'd all of my android phones, jailbroken ipads.
I got my kindle today and I want to install some software I have already purchased in the android market on my kindle.
I've seen the walkthroughs on Gapp installation and unrooting to keep amazon prime videos etc.
My question is how much of a risk am I taking? How well does GO-launcher run? Is the benefit at this point worth it?
Just want to hear opinions.
I rooted mine no problem. ADW, Market, and other apps running near perfect. Almost a 7" clone of my EVO 3D. Very little risk. Just be sure to read the entire thread of whatever root method you follow.
//Tapatalk.EVO3D//
I have sideloaded all of the google apps, all the apps I use from the market and everything else I use and have had no reason to root my tablet so far.
The only 'real' things you need to root for are for installing the market or for changing the look/feel of your tablet.
IMO, until the issues with recovery are solved, rooting opens you up to the possibility of bricking your device on accident.
I rooted mine within the first hour of having it, installed the market, then unrooted it no problem. There's always risk, but the risk was worth the benift in the end to me.
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no reason not to root it, you can always unroot it in 2 minutes. I'd stay away from trying to do anything more funky than install a launcher or the market (or apps from the market) though, at least until things are a bit ahead of where they are.
Ditto on what other posters said. Just rooting to install the Android market then unrooting should be rather safe. I've done much more including adding in support for Swype and SwiftKey X keyboards, syncing calender and gmail, using TiBackup, etc. and no problems or issues. So I think just for market then unroot should be simple and safe.
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This is exactly what I did. It's nice to have the Android Market available and by unrooting I have the Amazon Prime videos working again.
bsoplinger said:
Ditto on what other posters said. Just rooting to install the Android market then unrooting should be rather safe. I've done much more including adding in support for Swype and SwiftKey X keyboards, syncing calender and gmail, using TiBackup, etc. and no problems or issues. So I think just for market then unroot should be simple and safe.
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Use keep root from android market it works well.

[Q] After rooting the Fire does anything stop working?

My search-fu is weak this morning and I've not been following development here since I don't have a Fire, but ones of my wives friends asked me about rooting her Fire. I said I would check and I found the BurritoRoot3 post here which seems to work pretty smoothly. When the Fire first got root I kinda remember reading that rooted devices lost access to the Amazon streaming. I'm not sure I'm remembering that correctly so I thought I'd ask. Before I go ahead and root her Fire I would like to know if rooting breaks access to any of the Amazon services?
Thanks,
- Aerlock
Aerlock said:
My search-fu is weak this morning and I've not been following development here since I don't have a Fire, but ones of my wives friends asked me about rooting her Fire. I said I would check and I found the BurritoRoot3 post here which seems to work pretty smoothly. When the Fire first got root I kinda remember reading that rooted devices lost access to the Amazon streaming. I'm not sure I'm remembering that correctly so I thought I'd ask. Before I go ahead and root her Fire I would like to know if rooting breaks access to any of the Amazon services?
Thanks,
- Aerlock
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Rooting the Fire will disable the Amazon Video App as it specifically looks for Superuser. Here's what I did. I rooted mine, installed Market, downloaded (and also sideloaded) all the apps I wanted that were not available while locked down in stock mode and then used OTARootkeeper to temporarily unroot the device. Doing this gave me the best of both worlds.
I'm running GoLauncher EX with Market and a bunch on non Amazon approved apps AND still can use the Amazon Video service. You can also choose to run the stock launcher at any time.
OTARootkeeper will allow you to reroot with just a click to add more apps later.
All other Amazon apps and services work fine under this method.
I just started this thread yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501281
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I just started this thread yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501281
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Which made no sense since the "Guide" doesn't have info in it. Normally a "Guide" provides the information about the topic it is about, not asking for info.
Obviously it's a work in progress.
I wrote everything I know and I'll put in more when I know more.

Article regarding buying the Kindle Fire as non-US user

Hi all,
i wrote an article about the Kindle Fire for non-US customers, explaining what works out of the box and what kind of options you have if you want to make use of the full potential of the device.
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2012/03/review-kindle-fire-how-usable-is-it-outside-of-the-us/
this is not meant as an faq for technical stuff like rooting, but more of a overview of whats possible with this tablet. this is hopefully interesting for people thinking about getting a kindle fire which don't live in the USA and are not familiar with Androids possibilities.
Please let me know if there are any questions...
Edited first post as the URL has changed...
Hi
That is a very good article, and something I have been looking for as I live in UK.
You state:
Amazon pushes out updates to the Kindle Fire pretty often, which would normally be a great thing, but not so much if you are using a rooted device with the stock ROM. Updates are forced and there is no way to deny them, other than using the Kindle Fire only offline which of course makes no sense. The problem is that each update will break your root access so you have to wait for the community to again root the new version and provide an walkthrough for it. This cat and mouse play can get very annoying. Chances are that you don’t really need to stick with the stock Kindle Fire ROM anyway as most Amazon services can’t be used outside of the US. This is where custom ROMs come in handy
Does this mean that if you keep the stock ROM updates can still be pushed to the device but by changing the ROM it will freeze the pushed updates or is there no way that these can be stopped currently?
meso100 said:
Does this mean that if you keep the stock ROM updates can still be pushed to the device but by changing the ROM it will freeze the pushed updates or is there no way that these can be stopped currently?
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Yes, that's right. Keeping the stock ROM will mean OTA updates will be pushed to your device, and you might lose root.
With a custom ROM like the CM7 or CM9 Rom this will not happen, as you basically have a different device with that ROMs.
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Thanks for your help.
I have bookmarked your website for future reference and liked it on G+
Nice one!
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Thanks for the feedback!
meso100 said:
Thanks for your help.
I have bookmarked your website for future reference and liked it on G+
Nice one!
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Thank you so much for writing this article. =]
This will come in handy when I move out of the states shortly. lol
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Thank you so much for writing this article. =]
This will come in handy when I move out of the states shortly. lol
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Thanks. As far as i know you should be able to use your Kindle Fire normally outside of the US, if it has been activated using a real US Amazon account with a real credit card. All services should work.
But of course this won't last if you move to another country permanently (change address) and don't use your US credit card anymore...
The only thing missing now is an official CM9 build and hardware acceleration. Hopefully we will see this soon as it would really push the kindle fire capabilities.

New Software Update 7.3.1??

I was restoring my Kindle Fire HD 7 to stock so I could send it in for a replacement. As I was about to factory reset and send it back, my Kindle updated to 7.3.1!
Anyone know what's in this update?
I blanked out some info like the serial number and my name in the screenshot (if you are wondering what those boxes are)
You are the first to mention it on here.
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
Doesn't appear so
According to Amazon's "Kindle Software Update" page, there is no indication that 7.3.1 has been released.
Have a look -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201016350
My thoughts are something has gone wrong, you managed to do that accidentally, or you purposely did it (NOT blaming you just an option that I have to keep in mind, it could've been a joke and that's your sense of humor and that's fine, you do what you want).
I SERIOUSLY doubt that Amazon has yet to update the page before sending out another update. If someone else has this as well and proves it then we can all be a tad more sure that this is legitimate.
EDIT: Amazon has updated their software update page to 7.3.1, definitely confirming its existence.
Yeah I was confused as well when I couldn't find anything on the Amazon site. No I am not pulling anyone's leg either lol
I double checked my 'old' HD7 (that I am about to ship off to Amazon) and it still says 7.3.1..
This auto update happened on my old device a couple of minutes after I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235403
My replacement device is at 7.3.0 (auto-updated from 7.2.1). Since 7.3.1 doesn't show up on the replacement, I've got to believe that something went wrong when I flashed 7.2.3 to my old device.
This don't make any sense at all :silly:
Edit
Another person has mentioned getting the 7.3.1 update on the Amazon UK forums here
I also had a chat with Amazon customer service (I love these guys ).
They confirmed that
it is a limited update that is being pushed out incrementally.
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Also the lady was kind enough to shoot me a follow up email if she found anything more on it and she got this:
I bet you didn't expect to hear from me so soon. I had a fit of giggles when I finally got hold of the "article" about the update. Basically, all it said was when everybody has it, we'll give you more details.
And that is all she wrote....
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Lol
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
kindle fire hd 7.3.1 update
Hi I am new to the site and relatively new to the kindle fire hd. I have just had (about 15 hrs ago) the 7.3.1 update and have experienced a few problems since. I had root access and google play working no probs. But did not stop the kindle from updating doh! Since the 7.3.1 update I have carried out the whole rooting process as before ( or at least I think I have) and everything went smoothly and root checker claims I have root access. I then reinstalled the necessary files for play store. But google play store will not run. ( says google store has stopped).
I have also had problems installing apps sourced elsewhere since.
I have concluded that this 'limited update' has tightened up security. Or have I simply messed up the rooting process.
Any advice would be appreciated
Thank you
Go into the development section and learn to install 2nd bootloader its made my kindle so much better plus i now use kinology rom fixes so many problems i had with original kindle os. It will get rid of non working play store
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thanks for the heads up
Been on the phone with amazon 2 times today...
7.3.1 just started rolling out to a select customer base, its supposed to fix some of the bugs in 7.3, namely battery issues. If you hit the sync button on your kindle and leave it in sleep mode for a bit, it will auto-update to 7.3.1.
Just use the root any android device. Works every time.
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Update to 7.3.1 causing problems Unrooted
The update on my stock unrooted Kindle Fire HD is causing many of my apps to stop working. Twitter, Officesuite, Ebay, ES File Explorer, Ymail, ect. I tried rebooting and all I get is messages that apps stopped working and eventually a blank screen with the home menu which doesn't respond.
confirmation from Amazon has update 7.3.1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_200529680_kindlelhd?nodeId=201016350
Sup with this updates amazon come on stop :banghead:
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Damn it I just got the update it feels kind faster to
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Update 7.3.1 very good ,only to lose 1 % battery overnight is too good
How do I root on 7.3.1 ?
I also have version 7.3.1. I used to be rooted when I was on 7.2.3, but now I am not rooted. My device's battery drains super fast. And I constantly have an error in my notifications that says:
"Install/Update/Enable Google PlayServices"
Requested by com.google.android.calendar
Hi All,
My 7" fire hd has just upgraded to 7.3.1, lost the root option but just re-rooted using binaryv18 and it worked a treat.
salmidach said:
Hi All,
My 7" fire hd has just upgraded to 7.3.1, lost the root option but just re-rooted using binaryv18 and it worked a treat.
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Great news!
Did you feel any improvements?
I am, SOOOOOOOOOOOO, glad they fixed the battery drain issue. It now stays charged over night.

Rooting the Kindle Fire 7(7th Generation)

Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Man that would be great, I hope someone can break Fire OS 5.6.1.0, I would love to run the newest android OS on this Tablet. Would make a great OBDII diagnostic Tool for working on cars. :highfive:
5.6.1.0 can be rooted on the HD 10. I'm told it's rooted with dirty cow via KingoRoot. If the new fire 7s have the same kernel, there might be a possibility. As of now, it appears the HD 10 2017 had an unpatched kernel that allowed for the root. it's something Amazon has yet to fix.
When will we have root?
I have three of these and need root access for them to be worth a damn!!!!
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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capcavern said:
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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Currently the only rootable Amazon tablet is the HD 10.
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Looking forward to a root install on mine keep on rooting.
for a 69$ cost, it would be worth it if i could root and get it to do the things from google play that the fire store doesnt have. Tried two 10ionch ones and i had less than desirable results
How likely it is that this device will be rooted in the future? Look like there is no development for this product.
I’m considering to get one for my kids, but without root I prefere to select another device...
Noticed a few people say they want the root so they can install Google Play store, you can without root on the current Fire 7. Just did, you need to install the framework, account manager app, play services and then play store apk. Working, but quite slow, just got the Fire 7 so may be doing a few bits in the background updating so maybe causing the slowness.. or its just been a long time since i used a £30 tablet.. haha.
+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
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+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
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So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
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So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
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Really hoping you're able to root it.
Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
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Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
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Nearly every amazon app will consume resources. Many will reactivate after a force close. A lot of it is because of the apps.
Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I will probably try that Kindle tool or fire tablet tool, whatever it's called to cancel OTA and remove some Amazon apps.
I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
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I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
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If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
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If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
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I want to use it just for a home automation dashboard. Just bought it cause it's been 30€, so I thought it could be a good tab for the wall. With unusable, I mean I can't put it on the wall, because the lockscreen is still there. It would be kinda useless to have motion detection with a lockscreen. And rooting doesn't work, or is there a new exploit? I would really love to root it, then I can finally use it. It's just lying around right now, until it can be rooted. I've removed the OTA update thingies, so no updates will be downloaded. Also it's shut down, so no problem there. I'm on 5.4.0.0 like said, if I have to upgrade to root, I'll do that, but for now, I try to stay on the lowest version possible, so when an exploit comes, I'm prepared
I hate this tablet there needs to be a root. it runs incredibly slow and I think it's because Amazon's apps are running please find a root solution

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