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Apps2SD via Google Froyo :)

Comment 559 by af9210, Today (2 hours ago)
will the feature require a certain class speed sd card
Comment 564 by [email protected], Today (28 minutes ago)
@559 - As with any software which needs to do a lot of I/O - the faster the card the
better.
Delete comment Comment 565 by af9210, Today (8 minutes ago)
@564 i understand... do you have knowledge about how it will be implemented..... for
instance do we need to create a separate partition ie ext2 ext4 etc?
Comment 566 by [email protected], Today (1 minute ago)
@565 - We've gone to a lot of effort to ensure you *don't* have to repartition / format your cards for this to work. We coexist with the existing FAT32 partition on the card to ensure compatibility with your existing cards/devices.
sounds pretty good development by the android team huh

sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.

godsfilth said:
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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However Ext partitions don't stop you pirating.
I can still get ALL of the installed apps off my phone if I need to and that's using my phone. No special software needed as such (nothing that's not free on the market anyway).

Yup, sounds like a new encryption method.

Yep, noone can boot up an ubuntu cd and mount the ext partition...
More likely it's because fat32 can't handle linux style file permissions.

godsfilth said:
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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They could install protected apps onto internal flash - as they do now. Most of apps aren't protected, so we'll still have a lot of additional space.

My theory is that rather than a separate partition, it'll just create a file of xx amount of size on the mem card, then fill it up. It'll probably be somewhat of a safe measure, as it'll most likely be encrypted and of a filetype that isn't common (or it could even be some kind of internal compression method such as zip, but a self written program).

They said they wouldnt do it until they figure out a way to encrypt it.
Ill take it thats what they did.

Yeah, they did say it would not come till they hashed out some piracy measures, not that they will help whatsoever, but they did say that.

I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
Offloading all the free ones to the SD = BOOM.
Easy and would have absolutely zero consequences on piracy.

Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.

GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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What is this word you speak of piracy, never heard of it

GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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Ever heard of cloud computing?

Paul22000 said:
I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
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That is a very bold statement to make.
Once you can install applications to your sdcard, what's to stop you from purchasing ONE program that is, by itself, 500 MB?

Has anyone encountered a problem as far as apps that are able to move to sd and then disappearing from app menu? As well as icons on homescreen turning to android generic icons? I can still access the apps from homescreen ,manage apps and astro but as i said the icon for the app on the home screen changes to somewhat of a generic looking android icon. One of the apps in question is titanium backup.
Now if i go to manage apps and place apps back to phone everything reappears in its rightful spot. Could it be a temp glitch in froyo? Some setting i might have missed? Any info would be appreciated...thnx

Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed

Lemim0uth said:
Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed
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cool, thnx for the response. Least i know i didnt screw something up lol.

Drane said:
Ever heard of cloud computing?
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100% irrelevant to this thread and what I was talking about.

Seeking advice before I take a hammer to my EVO

I unlocked and I think unlocked the nand protection via toasts methods and sue to a variety of issues couldn't flash a rom. No biggie, I'll just live with root. I reinstalled all my apps from titanium backup and began setting up my evo. Went to take a picture and was told I couldn't due to insufficient file permission. Anyone have any idea how I can get my evo to where I can back up my data and save pictures and videos?
I think I might just take a hammer to it and use the best buy insurance I have.

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I unlocked and I think unlocked the nand protection via toasts methods and sue to a variety of issues couldn't flash a rom. No biggie, I'll just live with root. I reinstalled all my apps from titanium backup and began setting up my evo. Went to take a picture and was told I couldn't due to insufficient file permission. Anyone have any idea how I can get my evo to where I can back up my data and save pictures and videos?
I think I might just take a hammer to it and use the best buy insurance I have.
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just do it lol smash it DO IT

sounds like a whole lot of user error to me.
Care to explain your variety of issues? If you follow the instructions step for step and dont cut any corners, you'll get exactly what you want.

Sounds like you need to flash the RUU and start over being a bit more careful this time.

boomhower said:
sounds like you need to flash the ruu and start over being a bit more careful this time.
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+1 .

boomhower said:
Sounds like you need to flash the RUU and start over being a bit more careful this time.
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Or u can smash it

I started from scratch. I got as far as trying to root. I place the pc36img.zip file in the root of my sd card and when it goes to read it, it reads 4 lines down then stops. nothing, no progress bar. I've tried dnlding the file from various sites and I used a variety of sd cards, including formating a couple. Not sure where to go from here.

[Q] Tiny Nandroid!

Due to the limited storage space on N4 I'm constantly having to rotate my nandroids which I back up regularly with Orange Backup which also sends them to my cloud but this also means I've always got to have a nandroid permanently on my phone in case I'm away from a PC. My nandroids can be anywhere from 1.3Gb to 4Gb depending on what I'm doing and whether I've bothered to spring clean :cyclops:
I had an idea of a "tiny nandroid" which would be a completely stripped ROM and basic a kernel. It only needs the very bare basics so that I can have a functional phone and can download one of my nandroids from my cloud (GDrive in this case) so I can perform a full, proper restore.
I've searched on here and found Slim Bean, but wondered if this is the smallest functional ROM? I figured I just needs the system essentials and and a browser.
Any better ideas gratefully received :good:

It's "tiny" only because it probably doesn't include the GAPPS.
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Just keep one nandroid, the last one before you flashed a new ROM. Keeping old ones is pointless but if you insist on doing so keep them on your PC instead

EddyOS said:
Just keep one nandroid, the last one before you flashed a new ROM. Keeping old ones is pointless but if you insist on doing so keep them on your PC instead
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Thanks Eddy.
I do only keep 1 on the phone but when it gets to 4gb that's a quarter of my available space gone
I was just wondering if there is a bare essentials ROM available? So I can just keep that one permanently on the phone and keep any others on the cloud.
Thanks again

I use twrp recovery with its compression options. Mine average 400mb on custom roms.

Galaxy s5 g900a 5.0 - need help to recover deleted sms/text messages

Hello all.....I am trying to recover deleted text messages, pic/vid messages on my stock Samsung Galaxy S5, G-900A, running android 5.0 (lollipop). I have tried to utilize a few different android data recovery systems but all have failed in locating any of the deleted messages---likely because root access is required? I have looked everywhere and am under the impression that this particular phone still cannot be rooted due to the AT&T locked boot loader. I also understand that these types of deleted msg files can be overwritten with extend use after initial deletion, however, I am only concerned with messages to and from one particular person, and there hasn't been much use on the phone since they were deleted anyway. This was one of my company phones used by an employee and it is important that I recover these messages. In my conversations with the AT&T Legal Department I was informed that even with court ordered subpoena they do not have the actual messages to provide because they are "deleted from their servers within a few days", but they were able to provide me with the actual data/message/call logs---which doesn't really help me with the issue. I know that there has to be some way or method to locate and recover these messages-----PLEASE HELP------Thank you in advance.

Additionally, I would like to add that I am not at all concerned with any future functionability of this phone, not sure if that even matters---just thought maybe if there are any important apps/programs/functions were modified or deleted to gain access to these messages I am absolutely willing.
Also, is there any way to copy or save the phones hard drive to my computer and access these messages/files through another function on my laptop????

It's unlikely you can recover them, one thing you can try is imaging the phone as you mentioned though, I only know how you could do it in linux though so I'm not sure how much use that will be to you.
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Could probably get the text messages printed out from your carrier for a price

Rakuu said:
It's unlikely you can recover them, one thing you can try is imaging the phone as you mentioned though, I only know how you could do it in linux though so I'm not sure how much use that will be to you.
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Thank you very much.....Im not exactly sure what protocol is on this but I'm wondering if I could hire you or anyone else who might be interested to scan and locate these messages for me? I see that you live in houston, as do I; if it is possible to find these messages thru linux I certainly couldn't do it as I have no experience with that program/software.

cg81 said:
Thank you very much.....Im not exactly sure what protocol is on this but I'm wondering if I could hire you or anyone else who might be interested to scan and locate these messages for me? I see that you live in houston, as do I; if it is possible to find these messages thru linux I certainly couldn't do it as I have no experience with that program/software.
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Seems you might have less luck than I thought :/ this is what I could find about finding the messages https://cmanios.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/read-sms-directly-from-sqlite-database-in-android/ to get deleted ones though you'd have to recover the old db, which would be hard to do in and of itself with flash memory, and you'd be lucky to get anything out of what would likely be a partial database file, and that would be hard to read. On top of that, to get an image of anything, even unrooted user readable partitions(internal sd card) you need root, because the command can only be run from the phone it seems, since the phone is presently on 5.0 it's not possible to root it, so your chances are slim to none since no data recovery tool app on the phone would go to the location of the message db file, even if it did it would need root, and even then, to image the phone as far as I can tell also requires root. The only thing I can think of is removing the internal sd card, the ifixit teardown covers this kind of, the card isn't a standard microsd, so finding a way to mount it would be trivial(possibly re-soldering it to a usb?) , if you managed that though, then you might have a chance at attempting data recovery which as I mentioned earlier is already going to be 50/50. As for someone who you could pay for help with this, I can't think of any place, and I also would be of no help unfortunately, there may be someone on the forums or around town who will do it on their own behalf, as with before though I don't know anyone who could help with it though. All this said, it's all speculation for the most part, so I would wait for a second opinion by someone else before taking any action.

Rakuu said:
Seems you might have less luck than I thought :/ this is what I could find about finding the messages https://cmanios.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/read-sms-directly-from-sqlite-database-in-android/ to get deleted ones though you'd have to recover the old db, which would be hard to do in and of itself with flash memory, and you'd be lucky to get anything out of what would likely be a partial database file, and that would be hard to read. On top of that, to get an image of anything, even unrooted user readable partitions(internal sd card) you need root, because the command can only be run from the phone it seems, since the phone is presently on 5.0 it's not possible to root it, so your chances are slim to none since no data recovery tool app on the phone would go to the location of the message db file, even if it did it would need root, and even then, to image the phone as far as I can tell also requires root. The only thing I can think of is removing the internal sd card, the ifixit teardown covers this kind of, the card isn't a standard microsd, so finding a way to mount it would be trivial(possibly re-soldering it to a usb?) , if you managed that though, then you might have a chance at attempting data recovery which as I mentioned earlier is already going to be 50/50. As for someone who you could pay for help with this, I can't think of any place, and I also would be of no help unfortunately, there may be someone on the forums or around town who will do it on their own behalf, as with before though I don't know anyone who could help with it though. All this said, it's all speculation for the most part, so I would wait for a second opinion by someone else before taking any action.
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I sure do appreciate all of your help and consideration......i sure wish there was some other/easier way to accomplish this...however, i have been able to put the micro-sd card into a larger converter card thing and view on my macbook pro---although there are many many empty folders when i try to access them. Is there a particular file reader that i could download on laptop that would show any invisible files and allow me to view them? Sorry for the amateur questions....thanks again for your help.

cg81 said:
I sure do appreciate all of your help and consideration......i sure wish there was some other/easier way to accomplish this...however, i have been able to put the micro-sd card into a larger converter card thing and view on my macbook pro---although there are many many empty folders when i try to access them. Is there a particular file reader that i could download on laptop that would show any invisible files and allow me to view them? Sorry for the amateur questions....thanks again for your help.
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The microsd card from the phone does not have any text messages as far as I know, won't help to look at that, you need the internal one used by the phone which is a soldered to the board.
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In fact , the lost Samsung can be recovered back depends on whether the messages is completely deleted from Samsung ,you can restore deleted messages from Samsung from Samsung SD card ,or Samsung Memory card ,In addition, the program is also apply to almost all Android devices, including HTC, LG, Sony, Motolora, Google and so on. Hope this can help.

[Q] Is there a way to transfer NookManager backups from one nook to another?

I have tried doing this before, but I get an error message when trying to install a backup that came from a different nook. It says something like there is not enough memory on the Nook, which I know is a lie. There should be identical memory taken up a ROM on one nook to one on another, right? It seems that the nooks identify which one is which by slight differences in storage size?
If I could do this, it would make passing my perfect setup from one nook to multiple nooks for friends very easy.

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I have tried doing this before, but I get an error message when trying to install a backup that came from a different nook. It says something like there is not enough memory on the Nook, which I know is a lie. There should be identical memory taken up a ROM on one nook to one on another, right? It seems that the nooks identify which one is which by slight differences in storage size?
If I could do this, it would make passing my perfect setup from one nook to multiple nooks for friends very easy.
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Because the backup is essentially a clone it will mismatch the MAC address and serial number. There may be other issues.
Seems to me there were some old posts about editing both of those values, but I'm not positive about that. Of course that would mean recording both before attempting the cloning process.

Sounds like it would take just as much time as just going through and setting it up manually.