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The Arc, nearly sold it.

I have been having trouble with battery life and performance since day one. The battery was sorted after I roooted it and got rid of the bloatware. But the lag was awful. It only worked smoothly once I had killed everything with task killer - in know with android I should not do it, but it was ssssslllooooooowwwww.
I was so close to the putting it on Ebay and going for a dual core until......
I though it was worth going back to basics, so last night I re-flashed. it, rooted it, cleaned out the bloatware then installed all my apps. Wow what a difference.
Maybe one of my old apps was the cause, maybe the order in did it, but the Arc is silky fast and the battery is still on 80%
My beautiful Arc is not for sale!
Sent from a Galaxy (Tab) far, far away....

People are making a conclusion very quick. I never use taskkiller and the phone is really smooth ad battery life is really great.
Did you restore an app with titanium backup or something like that? because that can give sometimes problems to

I just installed everything from scratch.
Up until the re-flash I was waiting 5 secs for the SMS app to start and nearly 10 secs for the phone app. Even clicking on the app list meant that the icons on the home screens had to re-load every time (4secs)
Sent from a Galaxy (Tab) far, far away....

that's really slow for me it's smooth and fast. You had a very weird problem. good to hear you got it fixed

I blamed it on the Arc Launcher and TimeScape in my case, and boy was I right. Using LauncherPro Plus now and it's smooth as silk, uninstalled SE Home and TimeScape + Extensions and now everything is fine. After ~5/6 Hours of sleep it was still at 99% which was a big shocker for me

Regii said:
I blamed it on the Arc Launcher and TimeScape in my case, and boy was I right. Using LauncherPro Plus now and it's smooth as silk, uninstalled SE Home and TimeScape + Extensions and now everything is fine. After ~5/6 Hours of sleep it was still at 99% which was a big shocker for me
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This is with SE Launcher easily possible as well. The problem is that the screen is hoging most battery so if the screen is off, battery drains really slow

Just curious how you check the battery drainage when your screen is off :lol
Glad you so solved it. I also did the same after a week after bootlooping, and it really improved for some reason...
Sent from my arc or optimus 2x

Does everyone think that the the stock launcher is causing perf problems? I love the stock media widgets.. and don't really want to have to trade them to get smoooooothness...!!

I used the stock launcher for 2 weeks (without any of the widgets) and had no problems with it at all. I switched to ADW EX cause i got bored of the same side to side scrolling. I miss the design of the folders and "carded background" app drawer design of the stock launcher though. I had no problems with smoothness or battery life..have about 160mb free at all times.

im_iceman said:
Does everyone think that the the stock launcher is causing perf problems? I love the stock media widgets.. and don't really want to have to trade them to get smoooooothness...!!
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the only stock widget i like is the photo widget...the rest its just eye candy..timesquare suck ass ..click on a twitter or fb comment and it take u to the websites.. should open either twitter app or fb app ... the only time i get slow performance is in the late afternoon after a hardcore day of texting and picture messaging but if i chill normally all day phone snappy

After my flash, clear out and install, the Quadrant score is 1692. I doubt if it would have scored 600 before.
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Did you use SEUS or flashtool and the ROM unbranded ? Mine is really smooth but 30% battery drain in one night.
Also what's the différence between "sync background" and "sync data all time " in settings ? Sorry for label mine is in french so i don't know how they call on your phone but it is in sync section.
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Hows your standby life or how many days can you get without charging?

I used accused SEUS then gingerbreak.
I put it on charge every night, so not sure how many days it will last, but most likely it would be 1.5-2 days with normal use. Before it would not last until the evening.
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If I use it regularly then my battery also runs out by the evening, though I have to agree with timescape not being that optimal... the launcherpro Widgets are better actually for social networks... though if it wasn't the stock launcher's fault, why is performance for me top notch now after uninstalling it?
since I'm on bin4ry's system.img, I can't blame Gingerbreak and also haven't used seus yet, still eagerly awaiting cm7
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My battery its been always great. I just rooted like two days a go. Battery last me all day and I text a lot.
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Regii said:
I blamed it on the Arc Launcher and TimeScape in my case, and boy was I right. Using LauncherPro Plus now and it's smooth as silk, uninstalled SE Home and TimeScape + Extensions and now everything is fine. After ~5/6 Hours of sleep it was still at 99% which was a big shocker for me
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Any lag you have has NOTHING to do with SE launcher or Timescape.
It may be the apps. Mine is over 1,5 months old with stock launcher and timescape and is super smooth.

doministry said:
Any lag you have has NOTHING to do with SE launcher or Timescape.
It may be the apps. Mine is over 1,5 months old with stock launcher and timescape and is super smooth.
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Well... I have about the same apps as I did before, and now it doesn't lag, so dunno. But seriously I think Launcherpro is better anyways, so it's not a big loss. Battery life is excellent for me though, with Green Power Premium and a lot of texting, and some gaming

well it's not the number of apps but rather quality of some of them.

doministry said:
well it's not the number of apps but rather quality of some of them.
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I do know that, therefore I said the same and not the same number. Anyways, there are quite large games without app2sd on my internal memory, some lag could also be induced by those

Magic -> iPhone -> Xperia Arc:: Ooh my G..still slow!!

I got the very first android that was available in Japan, HTC Magic via docomo 2 years ago. It was a terrible experience back then, super slow, but somewhat relieved by cyanogen mods back then.
Finally I gave up and decided to get an iPhone until Android matures enough.
I went thru two iPhone cycles and what can I say ... while they are very boring, they just worked.
2 Days ago I decided to get another Android, the Xperia Arc from docomo.
I am running Android 2.3.2 SO-01C build. All stock.
It's a lot better of an experience than the Magic was, but still I am surprised how slow it is. I read all these fantastic reviews here and I am just thinking "don't you have these issues, too?"
Yesterday I was at a networking event and tried to pull out my phone (xperia arc) to get someone's contact details. I tried to launch the Contacts app, and it actually takes 10sec+ with a white screen, then some sluggish interface pops up.
By the time I was ready to enter the number and email, the moment had passed and we settled on exchanging business cards instead. (quite embarrassing)
I was very disappointed.
I am having the same problem with the browser and the Gmail app. They both go thru these 10-15 seconds loading stage with white blank screen. After that I can close the app and restart it quickly, but if you leave it for sometime it does the blank screen thing again.
When going back to the home screen from any app, I first get a blank screen with just the wallpaper, then the dock loads, then some apps load, then the google widget loads. Feels like I am loading images on an 3x86 running windows 3.1.
Sometimes, it's even worse. I close "Pulse" newsreader app trying to return to "home" and I get to the home screen but "Pulse" turned into my wallpaper and it won't go away until I kill the process explicitly.
I mean ... can this really be thru? A brand new, top of the line phone running stock rom from Sony Ericsson.
They must've seen these issues when testing the phone.
Almost like XP writing to swap partition and my harddrive is falling asleep, except that my phone doesn't have a hard drive...
How can it still be that bad??
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Solved. It is crazy fast now!!
I reset the phone and DID NOT sign into any of the timescape stuff.
That did it for me.
It actually feels faster than the iPhone4 now. Wow, I am really amazed how far android got since I last tried it with the HTC Magic.
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vladuz976 said:
II read all these fantastic reviews here and I am just thinking "don't you have these issues, too?"
How can it still be that bad??
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They didn't and it isn't - you have a faulty handset.
Do you honestly believe that if the reviewers had handsets that took 10+ seconds to open an app that it would get the sorts of reviews the Arc has had?
That's ridiculous, no reviewer worth their salt would ever try and pretend that was reasonable performance, they'd lose all credibility.
Try resetting your handset or repairing it via SEUS, if that doesn't fix the issue, get it replaced.

Step666 said:
Do you honestly believe that if the reviewers had handsets that took 10+ seconds to open an app that it would get the sorts of reviews the Arc has had?
That's ridiculous, no reviewer worth their salt would ever try and pretend that was reasonable performance, they'd lose all credibility.
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... trust me, I don't want to believe it, that's why I posted here. I am very very disappointed after having spent a lot of money on this phone an then getting this.

It's a faulty phone, it happens - even to Apple.

^ Agreed. I also had the HTC magic before and just recently upgraded to the arc and what a world of difference!! The arc is so snappy and I don't have to wait 10-15 seconds to load up anything as I did before.
Suggest you reset and start from scratch....

I've seen almost similar problem. I reflashed and it never had the problem. Could be because of some Widgets or apps you installed are the problem. Also, very high resolution wallpaper could be issue. Some of the weather Widgets could be a pain depending on what add-on you installed. I find weatherbug elite slows my Arc.

Mate, 2 option;
1. go back to iphone. Sell you ARC.
and
2. visit your local Sony repair services, again for swap.
cheers
James

will try the reset now.
... sigh, so disappointed. Hope this is gonna help a bit.

Guys, I am using this app called "share my apps" to show you what I've got installed right now.
Also I am using the "nexus" live wallpaper. That should be fine, right?
my apps:
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Adobe Reader
Advanced Task Killer Free
Aedict
Amazon JP
ANA GLOBAL
AnkiDroid
AppMonster Pro
Chase
Chrome to Phone
ChromeMarksLite
CliphWeather
Clocks around the world
Docs
eBay
Expedia
Finance
Global Nuclear Watch
Goggles
IMDb
Kayak
Linda Manager
LinkedIn
MetroTouch
OurGroceries
Pulse
QR Droid
RunKeeper
ShareMyApps
Shazam
Skype
TripIt
Twitter
Wapedia
WebMD
xda premium
Zeam Launcher
ぐるなび
乗換案内＋

keijames said:
Mate, 2 option;
1. go back to iphone. Sell you ARC.
and
2. visit your local Sony repair services, again for swap.
cheers
James
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can't go back to my iPhone, I still have it. I have two contracts running. I wanted to use both simultaneously for half a year to really test it, while my iPhone contract is still running.

Get rid of the task manager, it'll do more harm than good.
Android manages tasks automatically, you don't need any extra apps to do so.

guys, I reset the phone and it seems a hell of a lot faster now. Unbelievable. I hope it stays this way, almost snappier than my iPhone.
Just one thing is weird, I cannot use the android market on my desktop anymore to install my apps remotely.
I haven't added cliphWeather widget back yet. I wonder if that was slowing everything down.

Don't use task killer and it won't help you anyways.
Try to do a factory reset or try and put a stock ROM without Docomo's stuff on it. You can simply flash with "Flash Too" program with no problem.
Even some apps in market says built for android 2.2 and up or 2.1 and up they are not yet ready with 2.3 therefore they have bugs which have not been worked out.
Flash a brand new ROM and don't install your apps. just set up your stuff and see if you have problem still.
If yes, then return the phone and get a new one.
If no, then you will be a happy person.
Good Luck

thanks for all the replies.
All I did was reset the phone and not install "CliphWeather" and it is lighting fast.
I am very impressed.
I also didn't sign into all the timescape stuff that SE offers.
Everything working as expected now.

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It's a faulty phone, it happens - even to Apple.
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Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty. It is true. The arc is not what is suppose to be. Its just a beautiful phone that takes great pics... and I know u all going to say to op guy do a master reset. Get rid of crapware use launcher pro or adw lol. Here we go again. Look around here ..there is a lot of people complaining about same.issue. mine is running "OK" I use my thunderbolt more(blows this away 1000 times in.speed even running a beta 2.3.4 with sense 3.0 seriously) its the Sony UI ..definitely ...I'm gonna play around with the xperia play USA version tomorrow. Not Sony UI ..plain gingerbread and I guaranteed its way faster than arc. ..when sensations comes out this arc going up on eBay ..definitely. its 2011 no need to have headache with this when there is great faster devices out there. ... dude. Trust me. U gonna do a reset/re install rom maybe bla bla. At the end of the day u need to reboot cause phone gets laggy. Period. Unless a custom rom comes out without Sony UI then we talk
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ajftl said:
Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty.
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Apple have similar failure rates to any other manufacturer.
Except unlike SE, they only give you a one year warranty.

vladuz976 said:
can't go back to my iPhone, I still have it. I have two contracts running. I wanted to use both simultaneously for half a year to really test it, while my iPhone contract is still running.
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are you comparing the iphone 4 or 3gs to an arc? what's your experience with speeds i was thinking of going to a iphone 4

iPhone4.
Arc feels much snappier.
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ajftl said:
Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty. It is true. The arc is not what is suppose to be. Its just a beautiful phone that takes great pics... and I know u all going to say to op guy do a master reset. Get rid of crapware use launcher pro or adw lol. Here we go again. Look around here ..there is a lot of people complaining about same.issue. mine is running "OK" I use my thunderbolt more(blows this away 1000 times in.speed even running a beta 2.3.4 with sense 3.0 seriously) its the Sony UI ..definitely ...I'm gonna play around with the xperia play USA version tomorrow. Not Sony UI ..plain gingerbread and I guaranteed its way faster than arc. ..when sensations comes out this arc going up on eBay ..definitely. its 2011 no need to have headache with this when there is great faster devices out there. ... dude. Trust me. U gonna do a reset/re install rom maybe bla bla. At the end of the day u need to reboot cause phone gets laggy. Period. Unless a custom rom comes out without Sony UI then we talk
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Lol are you seriously that cynic? Just because your phone, which you probably screwed up yourself, seems slow and crappy, ALL the other Arcs in the world have the same issues? You made my day man..

My Arc was facing the same slowness problem...
Seem if u sync facebook contacts the arc always connects to the net before opening contacts to sync the status updates... useless really....
Uninstalled FB ... is now lightning fast ....

First Impressions of a new 10.1 owner.

Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike

I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.

try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface

Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it

mvan4310 said:
Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.

mvan4310 said:
Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...

Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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theROMinator said:
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Benzoman said:
Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..

I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.

morrit said:
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)

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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .

Rom Addict But...Is this too good??

I've had the Note 2 now since the release in the UK and all I can say is perfection! The barrery life is the best I have ever had! Normally end day at work still on 80-90% (My One X would be dead!)
It is smooth as silk everything works as it should! Its got the latest software already on there...
Im normally the first to root and custom rom and get rid of everything to keep pure google..but with this I dont even feel like putting on a custom rom simply worried that it may ruin it!??? Anyone else keeping away from modding their device or is it just me??

Yep. Dont see the need so far.
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I can understand you, but I rooted the fcuk out of it as soon as I got it! Too many hexcellent apps out there that demand root

Have to agree.
I've not even bothered rooting it yet, which I'd normally do on day 1, and I'm now on day 8.
I will still root at some point though, mostly for the root only apps though.
Note 2 - Android how it should be done!
Regards,
Dave
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Pure perfection does not exist but like most here I guess there is general concensus that this is truly an amazing device we got. Though to myself how boring something that works as good as that. Anyway I use omega and also perseus kernel lovely if you want to try OC an its limit though its fast enough or even beter under volting and this furthermore seems to show how great the HW is.
Things I just dont like is the high 320 dpi funny on tab 7.7 it was too low now here to big for my taste....so waiting with hope to see changes there dreaming about paranoid with full pen support.....
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I haven't modified or put any custom ROM every in my life and won't do it on my Note II as well.
The simpler it is, the better it is.
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+1 I agree fully, this is the best out of the box Samsung device i ever had. Do not feel the need to root at all, let alone flash a custom rom wich atm adds nothing to what we allready have. Kudoz to Sammy in this case

yep agree, no need for a Custom Rom on this. It has everything you need.
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For the moment I don't think root is necessary (i can live with titanium apps not being restored, can be manually done but without its data).
I think I will root only if development breaks through the split screen multitasking to add more apps into it.
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I rooted it but after using a couple different roms I don't see any need for them. I really only wanted root to be able to remove anything I really didn't need and to be able to use any apps that require root. I might eventually use a custom kernel but that's pretty much it.

I have no desire to root my Note 2 at this time as it does everything I want from it and does so seamlessly.
Once I have my T-Mobile provided Note 2 I may well keep the international/unlocked version to toy with new ROM's and root apps. Selling this unit OTOH puts $$ back in my pocket. To be decided later. My daily carry Note 2 will remain factory stock unless a firmware update reduces its versatility or usability.

I will get my Note2 later today and the first thing i will do is root the baby. If it was only for Adfree Android and some other indispensable applications.
I will see about aftermarket ROM's later. It will depend on the usability. And if I hear you guys talking about I think that won't happen for a while.:laugh:

Rooted 15 minutes after I opened the box. I needed to transfer data from my s3
That's the only thing that is badly needed to this android. Anything else can be avoided even from a flash addict like me. ( a flash my nexus 7 twice a day to keep me sane )
There are some useful mods like skip track , call recording etc. I am with wanam 1.1 and everything looks great.
Rom is a choice for note 2 but root is necessity for android.
Come on, you are in xda , you hold an android device , chainfire already gave root and you want to stay unrooted?
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I have bricked my first Note because of flashing addiction first and because of trying to get rid of some of its shortcomings like slow Contact app scrolling etc.now that the new one adressed all of the issues I was complaining from I didnt even see a need for a root so far, the stock ROM seems to be sufficient enogh.

I root all my devices, usually for AdAway, hate ads when browsing. Titanium backup pro as well for back ups. Usually custom roms and kernels bring user fixes to shortcomings in OEM software.
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Yea this phone is really amazing. My only gripe atm is no polaris office which I was sorta expecting. Hopefully soon they will release it. But having to switch from S3 to Note2 I am really satisfied.
With s3 i had to custom rom it on the first day. With this I dont mind the bloat, cause i still have tons of free memory.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.

I gave my wife my SGS III yesterday and got the Note II. I am loving it, right off the bat it does seem smoother than the S3. With that said, I immediately rooted it and installed Omega. Not so much because it needed it, more because I'm pretty much obsessed with the removal of bloatware and apps that I don't use.

toofank said:
I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
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Did that work well???
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I haven't rooted mine. I was also a ROM addict on the S I and S II.
But with this TW build I don't really see a need yet. It's really good. I know a lot of people prefer the stock experience, but I personally like many of Samsungs additions.
And yeah, battery life is amazing. Not having to worry about battery life at all is probably the greatest feature of this phone.

Worst JB any company will ever release.

I am using note from last 1 year. Used GB for six months then upgraded to ICS.
I am always FAN of Stock TW look.
But this time: SAMSUNG crossed limit by releasing worst, ugliest, laggy, slowest JB firmware.
When I tried JB leak in FEB. I thought that this is not ready and samsung will work on it and will clean it by little more makeup.
But bloody sammy released it as it was. I mean no cleanliness, no smoothness, no quickness.
I can feel the slow response of apps opening and closing which I never felt in ICS.
Even battery drains like HELL.
I am reverting back to ICS. I like quickness of ICS. I am not a heavy user.
I disable few apps or bloatware I don't use and ICS works awesome.
Your views.

Maybe you do not know how to make clean flash...
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JB is good for me..
Battery , smoothness, stability( with latest kernels)..
<<<The CRACKS on my NOTE shows how often it KISSES the FLOOR>>>

its very smooth in my note.even app transitions are awesome but there is lag in gallery.

Agree, battery drains like hell, many lag, hot issue... i will never buy a sammy device again
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JB is running better than ICS on my note. Its butter smooth and faster. Job done well samsung!
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Sv: Worst JB any company will ever release.
shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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Stop bashing about it? He paid for it!

Agree i am saying the same. Ics release was way better than the jb release.
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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
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Bloody idiots. They miss ******* simple things.

the multitask and battery life for me makes all the difference, jb is a keeper they made touchwizz my favorite. The additional mods, with clean install and no recovery of app+data do the trick for me.
maybe you guys have rogue apps or something. Check you logcats
cm is really really awesome to, my fav vanilla flavour, but those touchwizz features wootwoot. I get same free mem after bloatware remove on touch as on cm.

Agree with this thread worst software update ever. Intead it should be considered as a downgrade in software quality very much unsatisfied this time
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shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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It's true, I am the software.

It's not sooooooo bad after all, battery really drains fast but the ROM is quite normal i think.
I really like TouchWiz because we have some features like Multi-Window, S Note, Fully integration with the S Pen, etc.
Always wanted to use pure Android(CM and others) but i would miss the way to organize the apps on the Drawer as i want and they aren't non-Wiping ROMs, once that all these features are included on a ROM i would be free from Samsung ****ty updates.
Better an resonable Jelly Bean than no Jelly Bean.

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate
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Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.

Have you all moaners done full backup and wipe?
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bhatia.mani said:
Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.
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I actually like the appearance of the new icons/weather themes/wallpaper, that's why I was so looking forward to this release. But I agree with you guys, it sucked. When I bought my Note with 4.0.4, the impression it I got from it was the same as the Note II with TW UX gave me: smooooooth! I updated my Note officially through Kies, so I'm sure nothing went wrong in the 'flashing' process. I've also done a factory reset. But everything else lags except for home screen transitions, it's kind of a disappointment. S Note, Camera, Contacts take at least 4-5 seconds to load. Music player has stutters in music playback. There's a delay when using the S Pen.
But now I've moved onto a custom ROM, and it's keeping me really happy.

It's 50:50
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jakethesnakeuk said:
Have you all moanersthe done full backup and wipe?
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First of all I don't care about back up. So forget about it.
Secondly, I was using ICS with philz kernel. I did all 3 wipes and then wiped preload which says now install newROM.
Then I installed original ICS using PC odin. Then I updated JB using KIES. Then I reset internal memory by using factory reset.
If you think that this process is not good enough: then please come to india, new delhi and do it for me you moaner.
Hope every one who wants to say that full wipe do the trick. Please read this post.
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference

bhatia.mani said:
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference
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Agree with you bro. same story with me but the difference is that my friend bought an iphone.. Although it is not big as note but the plus point is that it never lags for me the next change is gonna be a iphone 5s
Ps: when you paid $600 or Inr 32000 for a phone you atleast expect that the phone should not hang.. I am very much disappointed with jellybean
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