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I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I think the Rogers is your only route. Its the one i have; and really if you're gonna be rooting and changing the ROM's theres no way to tell it was ever a Rogers branded device, albiet from the Rogers logo on the back cover.
You can buy new battery covers that will replace the one with the "Roger's" name. If you're in the U.S. ever single T-Mobile store will have a variety of choices to choose from. They are for the myTouch but it's the same case The front of the Roger's phone doesn't say Rogers, instead it says HTC.
I went to the tmo store yesterday and got a "skull" battery cover (for $20!!!) and tried it on before leaving the mall, in seeing that it didnt fit quite right, iI returned it. If you have a Rogers Magic, it wont fit. That is if you're wiling to strip or break the plastic slides jamming it on. Sad. I was looking forward to leeching off the Tmo launch of the less capable myTouch...
Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
pcm2a said:
Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
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Read around, it only has 192mb of RAM and is not rootable yet either.
not lesser just crippled.
Clinton
Oh wow, I just assumed that since it was a new released phone here in the US it would at least be the same specs as the Roger's version. Looks like I assumed wrong
Hi All,
I have an X10a and am on Tmobile US. The box states:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 UMTS/HSPA BAND
I should be able to get the TMOBILE 3g correct? Anyone know why I would not be getting it? I thought 900 was the frequency for tmobile USA.
3g is only for att in usa.
You will get edge in tmob
will debranding change this?
Debranding will not help it at all. Bands are hardware related and not software. You need x10i.
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You are just who I am looking for!!!
nkn_1,
I think we might be able to help each other!
Two weeks ago on a trip to PI, I bought an X10i, thinking it was the correct frequencies for AT&T... Needless to say at this point, no 3G for me.
If you would be interested, I would be happy to switch my X10i (T-Mobile freqs) for your x10a (AT&T freqs).
Hopefully yours is WHITE, as mine is. I will consider the black if that is what you have, but will have to think about it...
Mine phone is in perfect condition. The only flaw is the screen PROTECTOR (applied before leaving the store). The upper right corner caught on my case, and peeled slightly away. Try as I might, I can't get it back to a perfect seal. But ZERO damage to the screen...
I assume that since yours is new, that yours is also in new condition?
Just to make sure, yours is unlocked/unbranded, like mine, right?
I will send you a PM with contact info...
Hi all
I love my UK HD2 especially since i've put it on Android but unfortunately i have to get rid of it as the limitation on cellular bands is a problem....
Recently moved to Canada where the provider i use (fido/rogers) operates 3G on 850/1900Mhz. The UK HD2 unfortunately does it on 900/2100Mhz so it falls back to the 2G network (GSM) when in Canada which is terrible for speed.
I need a phone which can do 850/1900/2100Mhz which i believe the Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and the Dell Streak can do.
Wondered if anyone had any opinions on these android phones or other phones which might suit? I need something as close as poss to the HD2 with the large screen, slim design but something that runs android only. I dont like the Desire Z.
Appreciate any advice
Latz
As far as size goes you can't go wrong with the Dell Streak. Haven't read the reviews on that one yet but I have heard its a good phone. Myself, I would go with the Captivate if thats an option on Fido. Or see what other good Android phones they have. Really though, no matter the choice you'll find support on these boards. Hope your search goes well.
Cheers
Dell streak is big , but too big if you really want to use it as a phone, having personally used it, its way big when using it daily, plus you have to carry it in your hand, Captivate, Bell Vibrant or Desire(screen is small)
id say if u really love yer HD2 then get the telstra T9193 version. thats the same bands as AT&T, rogers, the telstra one works here for me just fine. i just bought mine off ebay thursday and picked it yesterday. guy was locally in chicago couldnt belive it!!
EDIT: i just sent u a link to one being sold in canada right now
Desire HD?
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Desire HD?
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When I was in Canada, March 2010, they were having a launch party for the HTC Hero. It had been out in the UK for months, after looking at the selection of phones in Fido, Rogers and Bell, I decided that Canada was at least three months behind the curve. Although, that's just my opinion.
In light of that, I'm unsure if the Desire HD is out in Canada, I'll ask the missus to have a look.
Thanks for all your suggestions, I need something that can do all 3 bands else it won't work when I go back to the UK :-( I think the Telstra version of the HD2 is band limited too so whilst it will work in Canada I'll have the same problem in reverse when I go back to the UK :-(
Why oh why did they limit these phones :-( :-(
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look at all that you guys have suggested so far... I'll be really upset to leave HTC though.... I'll have a 'normal' phone :-(
Nokia N8 Pentaband, thats the phone you want
My Hero worked in the UK and Canada, but it's not a replacement for the HD2 by any means. I don't know what to suggest, except looking for the bands and typing them into Google, with your other specs. I know my friends Desire worked there too (I say Canada, I mean Vancouver specifically).
I'd say go for the Samsung Galaxy S. It's an awesome device and it doesn't seem to be riddled with hardware issues like every HTC phone seems to be lately. I think I'm switching my HD2 to one once I get it back from warranty repairs (third time this year, mind you). The only major thing with the Galaxy S is that the 3rd party software modifications can be a little retarded and the phone doesn't feel as solid physically as a HD2 for example.
Yes I must admit I'm growing more and more partial to the Samsung Galaxy range.... They have a 4" screen so I'm losing a little bit off our HD2 but not too much.
One thing I was concerened about was the benchmarking..... whilst I know this is not something of a real-world concern, it amazed me that the HD2 running Droid from the SD Card could manage no less than 35 MFLOPS compared to the Galaxy's Hummingbird... still spec'd as a 1ghz processor..... managed only 8 MFLOPS?
See article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/...ew-shootout-captivate-for-atandt-and-vibrant/
ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306
the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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Hey everyone,
(TLDR: go to last paragraph)
I was recently on this part of XDA asking about how to root the HTC Merge. Upon realizing that Verizon is an evil company from hell and that even unlocking its SIM will only allow me to use Edge, I had to give it up to someone who could use it and take care of it.
Now I'm in a dilemma. I currently use the HTC Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) and I truly want to switch to android really badly. I was looking at the Desire Z, but upon playing with it (Tmo's G2), I realized that I did not like the hinge mechanism and the optical pad mechanism. I played with the G2 for a good hour (well, until the store employees started giving me the stink eye) and I thought I would get used to these quirks, but I didn't.
So finally, the question is, if you could not get the G2 or Desire Z and want to get a phone as close to it as possible to it on a GSM network, what would your choice be?
Cheers!
Wait for dual core phones.
Nothing, that's why I have it. There's not really any other decent options with a hardware keyboard. The hinge isn't bad once you realize it wasn't designed to be stiff, and I *rarely* use the optical trackpad (like, maybe once a month, other than to wake/unlock).
I knew the hinge was not designed to be stiff. I had issues with it because playing with it, i happen to flp the hinge close on my fingers a few times because of the movement of handling the z. BUT, I must stress this, this is nothing but my opinion and my quirks so I am in no way shape or form saying the desire Z sucks.
The Mytouch 4g is similar spec wise but lacks a hardware keyboard. It also runs a sense ui rom but you can change that of course if you plan on rooting the phone. Another option is the Mytouch Slide 3g. I just upgraded mine to the G2 but the slide is still a nice phone. It isn't as high end as the g2, but I found it runs well and did most of what I wanted it to. It's keyboard slides straight up and down, it doesn't pop out in anyway. It does also have an optical trackpad but I got used to it (I came from a G1 with a trackball). It can do flash lite but it needs to be on a sense rom to do so. You can probably find one for $150-$200 on craigslist or ebay. I'd recommend the G2 over the slide but if the keyboard really irks you then maybe check out the slide.
I think the best alternative to the G2 is the MyTouch 4G. It has a front-facing camera, which is a nice feature.
Also I just saw the Cliq 2. Didn't look to much into it but it looks like a high end keyboard android phone.
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I knew the hinge was not designed to be stiff. I had issues with it because playing with it, i happen to flp the hinge close on my fingers a few times because of the movement of handling the z. BUT, I must stress this, this is nothing but my opinion and my quirks so I am in no way shape or form saying the desire Z sucks.
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1) the ones in the store get mistreated by everyone who comes in.
2) the ones in the store are connected to a spring loaded tether.
3) the ones in the store get mistreated by everyone who comes in.
ahah yes i know dhkr, but because it gets mistreated by everyone who comes in, it gives an indication of how the phone will perform years down the line.
and yeah, that tether is a massive pain the rear.
Unfortunately, if you want a hardware keyboard, your options are extremely limited, no matter what carrier you're looking at.
If the keyboard isn't a factor, the MyTouch 4G isn't *bad* (my wife has one), but it's significantly more plasticky than the G2. Of course there's the Vibrant /4G, but I personally don't care for Samsung's smartphones. They're typically way too plasticky, and they have horrid post-sale support (witness the lack of Froyo for the Galaxy S line, for instance).
What about the Vision variant that has a slide instead of the Z hinge?
HTC Vision? I still haven't seen it. If it's the same specs, i'll take a gander at it.
EDIT: I thought the Vision is the Desire Z (hinge and all) I was never aware of a variant that is a slide out.
you could get the Cliq 2, but you probably won't get much xda support.
yeah, the cliq 2 is interesting but motoblur is the ultimate deal breaker. I think I'll just have to get the Desire Z. I heard the European version does not support 3G on american bands, so if i want full use of the desire Z in both Thailand and the US, i'll have to get the US version right? (the unbranded one I mean, not G2)
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yeah, the cliq 2 is interesting but motoblur is the ultimate deal breaker. I think I'll just have to get the Desire Z. I heard the European version does not support 3G on american bands, so if i want full use of the desire Z in both Thailand and the US, i'll have to get the US version right? (the unbranded one I mean, not G2)
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I don't thing HTC is selling the American Desire Z unlocked. I know that Telus (a Canadian carrier) has the Desire Z and you could buy it unlocked from them. I think Telus and AT&T have the same 3G bands. Or you could get the G2, but the only other carrier with the same 3G bands as T-Mobile US is WIND mobile in Canada.
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What about the Vision variant that has a slide instead of the Z hinge?
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The HTC Merge? that apparently was canceled on Verizon and it's coming to Alltel later.
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I don't thing HTC is selling the American Desire Z unlocked. I know that Telus (a Canadian carrier) has the Desire Z and you could buy it unlocked from them. I think Telus and AT&T have the same 3G bands. Or you could get the G2, but the only other carrier with the same 3G bands as T-Mobile US is WIND mobile in Canada.
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Well, apparently amazon claims that there's a NAM version that is unbranded. I don't trust it too much, but it has a model number and all that is different from the european version. I personally hate having carrier branding on my phone and especially carrier "customization" on it. I was hoping to get my hands on something that I will be able to make full use of in both countries.
besides. the cliq 2 looks like the The Thing (from Fantastic 4) would use.... hahaha
EDIT: Forgot to add. I got my hands on the Merge (the verizon one) for a few days when I tried to get it unlocked, but since I sold it to someone who uses Verizon, I can tell you that I'd take the merge over the Desire Z any day because it was physically the perfect phone for me. The slide out keyboard, the physical looks and the heft of it was perfect for me. Too bad it was for Verizon and you know what Verizon is like.....
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Well, apparently amazon claims that there's a NAM version that is unbranded. I don't trust it too much, but it has a model number and all that is different from the european version. I personally hate having carrier branding on my phone and especially carrier "customization" on it. I was hoping to get my hands on something that I will be able to make full use of in both countries.
besides. the cliq 2 looks like the The Thing (from Fantastic 4) would use.... hahaha
EDIT: Forgot to add. I got my hands on the Merge (the verizon one) for a few days when I tried to get it unlocked, but since I sold it to someone who uses Verizon, I can tell you that I'd take the merge over the Desire Z any day because it was physically the perfect phone for me. The slide out keyboard, the physical looks and the heft of it was perfect for me. Too bad it was for Verizon and you know what Verizon is like.....
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If the Amazon listing is straight from HTC I would trust it. And the Merge looks like a great phone. If only it was on T-Mobile
if it was on Tmobile, i'd snap it up so fast it would look like the road runner is going backwards at lightspeed.
but I still need to make sure I can get the Desire Z that can use 3G in both the US and asia..... is there a way to find that out?
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if it was on Tmobile, i'd snap it up so fast it would look like the road runner is going backwards at lightspeed.
but I still need to make sure I can get the Desire Z that can use 3G in both the US and asia..... is there a way to find that out?
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Which 3G bands are you referring to? If you want Tmobile 3G you have to get the G2. If you want AT&T 3G and international 3G get the AT&T Desire Z.