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Is the Archos 101 16gb a good buy?

I'm thinking about buying a tablet and dont really buy into the whole apple thing, so I was wondering if the Archos 101 2.2 16gb was a good product.
What do you guys think. How does it stand on its own and against others like the iPad and the Samsung for example.
Many thanks

I recommend if you can wait for Motorola XOOM. The better choice with Honeycomb already.

Well... they're slightly different.
The archos can do things the ipad can't, like playing most types of video files, connect to TV via HDMI, connect NTFS HDD via USB to it.
It can't do 3G natively, but you can tether to your mobile if you need to browse away from home/WiFi.
So the Archos does most things the iPad can and then many more..., but it can't do the things the iPad can do quite as well. Not badly, just not quite as suave, if you get my gist.
The ipad is smoother to use, the screen is better, but then it costs almost double the money of the Archos.
So from where I stand, I prefer the Archos for it's flexibility and price wise, I'd rather have 2 Archos than 1 iPad.

The xoom looks good, especially with A3.0....
Is the Archos flashable to 3.0 or will it only run on 2.2?
I do think at half the price the Archos is good value for money, especially if you think about where the amrket is right now.....
choices, choices....

Xoom looks nice indeed, but with dual core, more RAM, etc... it'll cost you what the iPad costs.

Am I correct in that the archos has an ARM Cortex A8 at 1 GHz with DSP? I can't seem to find out how much RAM it has. It doesnt seem to say on their site. Has anyone had any experience of successfully overclocking this processor and to what stable speeds?

Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897877

there will be much better tablets available in the next few months, but right now
I think the 101 is the best value for money 10" android tablet you can buy.
I have had mine since dec 16th and cant fault it. (the screen isnt brilliant when it comes to viewing angles, but is crisp and bright).
The battery lasts me 2 days on moderate use.
It connects easily to my wifi and can see all my networked media via upnp.
I can output to a tv or monitor by hdmi.
I can play every format of video file I have.
It runs smoothly and without crashes now that I have the latest firmware and Zeam launcher.
It uses the wifi hotspot from my HTC Desire.
I can use a Wii remote to control emulator games on it.
I can read comics and ebooks easily.
I can use a wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think the 101 is great value for money, It may never see android 3.0, but it can do so much right now that that isnt a problem to me.
I'd say get one, you wont regret it.

Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?

Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?

Pete917 said:
1. Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
2. Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
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ad 1.: Screen is quite sturdy but prone to Finger Prints and if you need a Mirror, well, there you are . For these two Reasons alone a non-glare Screen Protector greatly improves the Value of the Archos and I won't ever have a Tablet without it. And no: It's not included out of the Box. If it were I'd expect Archos to apply it first hand.
Viewing Angles improve too, from my Experience.
ad 2.: Out of the Box it's Archos own Applib Store, which fills up every Minute, but not necessarely the Apps you need and if so, mostly older Versions of them. Google Apps are missing too.
For this, some clever Developer packed an Archive and some notes how to install Google Apps including Android Market. This is by far the first Thing you should do after powering on your Device for the first Time. Root is not required for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303

What's the best place to get one of these in the UK. I've look at getting one from the US were it seems cheaper but the import costs and duty carges kill it of course.
Cheers

I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!

CarsnGadgets said:
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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Thank you for that... I had seen Simplyelectronics and was contemplating an order. How do we stand for online orders in terms of cancelling unfulled orders and getting our money returned. Do the credit card companies help you with this one? I'll defnitely check out bestbyuk - many thanks.

Does anyone know if the 101 wil be compatible with A3.0 and if so will Archos be releasing for the 101?

CarsnGadgets said:
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I had used simplyelectronics also, VERY bad experience. took two weeks to send and they also lied about stock levels to me too :/ customer service was no help either.

I had to involve my credit card protection service in the end before simplyelectronics refunded my money.

I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!

Pete917 said:
I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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where are you ordering yours from?

aacevedo17 said:
where are you ordering yours from?
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I got it from Insight. £269 inc vat. Next day delivery. Brilliant. Go via telephone order though....

[Q] Any plans for B&N nook books international sales?

Ok, so I guess this question belongs more on the B&N forums but I also want to rant a little bit.
I bought my Nook Color mostly to hack it like everybody else on this forum. I am pretty happy with the results. However, I also took a liking to the B&N launcher and the whole ebook deal. So I would say I am using my rooted /OC Nook 50% to read ebooks/newspapers/magazines and the other 50% to do anything else.
Out of respect to B&N for giving us this fabulous toy at an affordable price I decided to buy my reading material from B&N and not amazon, plus newspapers and magazine REALLY SUCK at amazon (they are mostly abbreviated versions at full price).
My rant is that B&N is not moving fast enough at allowing international sales. I mean if amazon can do it I am pretty sure they can too. I want to give my money to them but they won't accept international customers. C'mon!!!!
So my Nook Color now sports a big amazon kindle icon on its B&N Home launcher and I now buying all my books without a hitch from amazon.
Does any one know if B&N is working towards allowing international sales?
Its ironic, in a world where you can pirate anything with a click of a button corporations and lawyers still make it difficult for us honest international buyers to buy stuff. If I have to pay more because I'm not in the US at least give us an option (I can buy the physical NY times in my country for $3 but at least the option is there).
On the same note I can understand why I cant buy music and movies because of copyrights but I cant understand why Doodlejump is not available for my country. I cant give the 2 bucks to the developer but then I can google the apk and get it for free. Who is really losing with all these protection schemes???

B&N is a licensed bookseller only in the United States, and that's pretty clearly spelled out in their User Guide, Appendix B:
http://img1.imagesbn.com/PImages/nook/encore/apps/mediakit/userguide_NOOKcolor_110425.pdf (page 121)
The big requirement is that you have a billing address in the United States.
This isn't by their choice - it's where they are allowed to sell the content based on the agreements they have in place with the book vendors.
Amazon has different rules in place which allows them to sell internationally. That's why, while in London, I saw many ads for Kindles in the Underground, and the only people who knew what the Nook Color was were Americans (ironically - employees of B&N).

Well, turns out I can buy from B&N being abroad. I just found my company uses a US ip. I changed my billing address to my job's mailbox in Miami and it worked. Sweet!
So it looks my lunch hour will be shopping time.
I kind of understand why B&N does not sell internationally, Amazon is a mamuth compared to them when you consider their other businesses so they might have more negotiating power with the publishing companies.
I just wish Amazon would redo their kindle mobile interface which is horrible for tablets and that they start selling complete editions instead of watered down. I do think their app looks better in smaller phones than in tablets.

Fusion Garage slashes $200 from Grid 10′s price tag

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/fusion-garage-slashes-200-from-grid-10s-price-tag/
Fusion Garage takes notes from HP's fire sale of the TouchPad and reduces the price of it's upcoming Grid 10 tablet by $200.
There is a new trend in the tablet market, and it is a trend that we are very excited about. There has been a trend of low price tablets coming to the market, and HP’s TouchPad is to thank for it. Fusion Garage is the latest company to follow suit by chopping $200 off the price of its still unreleased tablet the Grid 10. The new price on Fusion Garage’s website has the new base price as a reasonable $299.
When the Grid 10 was announced in a faux press conference, it was announced at an industry standard $499 for a 10-inch tablet. With the good news of the price drop there is of course bad news, the release date has been pushed back from September 16 to October 1. If you purchased Fusion Garage’s original tablet the Joo Joo you will get a Grid 10 for free, so the price drop doesn’t really effect you.
The size and price of the Grid 10 were really the only two similar characteristics with other tablets on the market. Fusion Garage created a new operating system called Grid, which was built from the Android kernel. Technically the Grid 10 is not called an Android tablet, even though it can run Android apps. As the name implies the Grid OS uses a huge grid as the main user interface. You us the grid to organize your applications and folders, and it appears to be a very intuitive system.
As stated earlier we can thank HP for slashing the price of the HP TouchPad to $99, and selling out in less than a day. This business model proved that people are willing to buy a tablet without an Apple logo, if the price is right. Prior to the TouchPad the majority of tablets on the market were content with matching the iPhone $499 price tag. We have recently heard about Amazon’s 7-inch Amazon tablet coming out will be half the price of the iPad, and hopefully we will see more tablets follow suit.
Will this price cut cause more people to buy the Grid 10, or is it just too new and unproven to gain traction no matter the price point?

Is there anything more to this C&P? Are you upset about this price drop??? This is like going to a store looking for toilet paper. After finding the toilet paper is the right section but there was a can of bake beans sitting right next to it.

I'll add: I think these folks are idiots if they dropped the price because of the TouchPad. That fire sale said absolutely NOTHING about how tablets should be priced--any product dropped to 80% of its retail price is bound to sell. If you took a Nook Color that's normally $249 and sold it for $49, it would sell like crazy as well. As maybe a better example, take your typical cheap $150 Android tablet and sell it for $30, and it too would sell out.
Rather, hopefully they're taking their queue from the TF, which has sold very well at $399. The market has made it quite clear that only the iPad can command a $499/$599 price point (bizarrely; it truly is a phenomenon what Apple has accomplished), and so coming in at $299 compared to the lowest-priced Honeycomb tablets makes sense.
I can't wait until the TouchPad fiasco is completely dead and buried. It was completely irrelevant to the rest of the tech market.

nunyabiziz said:
Is there anything more to this C&P? Are you upset about this price drop??? This is like going to a store looking for toilet paper. After finding the toilet paper is the right section but there was a can of bake beans sitting right next to it.
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On the contrary, my feelings are neutral about the price drop. I am however, excited that it is so close to the launch date. I want to be able to play with grid os on my TF.

I would venture to say that the people that bought the HP for $99 are all experimenters and do not plan to use it as an everyday go to tablet. The HP had a unique OS and as such will never have much but the basic built in apps. The average day to day non technical user had no idea that the HP was $99 until after they were gone. Unless you troll the techy boards you would not know. Hell 3 weeks after the fire sale the major office supply stores still had them in their flyers at $499. Sounds like these guys do not have much confidence in their tab.

That tablet looks sick I saw it when it debuted. Anyways android tabs are over priced and no one is reacting to HP, only doing what should have been done from the beginning. The low sales numbers prove it. The problem the Fusion will have is that its not a traditional HC tab even at 300 its going to be difficult to gain traction.
Now if the Xoom would of came in at 350, HC would be going neck n neck with Ipad. A lower price is necessary with ipad 3 around the corner. I bet around Christmas all HC tabs will be reduced by 50-100.
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The boneheads at moto really screwed it up. They managed to make it almost twice as thick and almost twice as heavy while wanting to charge almost twice as expensive as the ipad and ipad 2.
I'm making full use of the TF on an everyday basis (work, fun, show off, etc.) and I only paid 380 for both TF+dock new. I wouldn't have had it any other way. To think they could influence someone like me to spend $800 on the xoom is laughable.

This is a really nice looking device. I actually asked if the interface could be ported to the TF since it's built on top of / runs Android. Probably wouldn't use it as my daily tab, but it would make a hell of a nice quickie tab, especially for the price. Maybe leave it near the couch...(or toilet since I like to read )

Got the "Fusion Garage" Grid10 10/13/2011
After update it became very fast and responcive, side loaded "google maps, Samurai 2, and Netflix", so far "Netflix (tried 7 diffrent APK's) is the only APK the does not work well, it kinda works but the video does not load, also I could not get the the "Android Market" to work tries 2 different APK's. I am thinking I will have to spoof the device ID, using the Astro. They still have a Gmail bug, should be fixed soon, just a token issue.
So that's my 411

how about the amazon app store- does that work.
Also, what is your overall impression of the tablet.....good and bad?

Woohoo!
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Overall all good, but still for advanced users like us, the amazon app works perfect.
I am hoping that FG goes with the icecream sandwich kernel if possible.
After they update the tablet is working extremely well.
7.25 battery life, FG emailed users to state a even better update will arrive the month.
I have "anti" beta and loving that to.
Good for the price, and should get even better.

Amazon offering 3 payments every 90 days with 25% down

Visited Amazon.com today and was presented with an offer to pay 25% down on any HDX tablet with 3 additional payments occoring evey 90 days. No credit check, no interest.
Been on the edge of ordering the 8.9 HDX for awhile and this pushed me over the edge. Should arrive tomorrow.
Apparently this offer isn't available to anyone, as some have mentioned that going to this link gives an error page rather than the offer page. Figured it was worth posting it in case anyone wanted to take advantage of it.
Amazon Payment Deal
If the link doesn't work for some reason, try just visiting the main homepage of Amazon.com

Thank you for this!!! This helped my decision as well.

Funny, I can't help but wonder if I'm partly responsible for this new promo. I doubt it, but I just had it out with Amazon over offering their try before you buy the new kindles to random customers that have absolutely no interest in buying the tablet, as opposed to previous Kindle owners that would clearly be interested. The long-winded email was delivered directly to their marketing department.
Unfortunately in my case, the fiasco with their customer service 4 times in a row was enough to return my 7" Hdx and cancel my prime. Mostly just me sticking to my principles at this point, but it's nice that they gave some people other options.
Edit: although, it's certainly much easier to believe, considering the activity around this forum, that they just haven't been selling very well
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Thanks for the info.
But for my account, there is no 25% off, instead of 4x25% of full price payment, each delay for 90 days.
You agree to pay the full price of the qualifying Kindle Fire HDX device you selected in four equal quarterly payments. No interest or finance charges apply to this offer. Any interest, finance charges or fees assessed by the issuer of the payment method to which payments are charged may still apply. Any applicable tax and shipping charges will be assessed when you check out and will be due in full when you make your purchase. Your payment schedule is:
Payment Due Date
Initial Payment Purchase Date
First Payment 90 Days from the Purchase Date
Second Payment 180 Days from the Purchase Date
Third Payment 270 Days from the Purchase Date
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tititake said:
Thanks for the info.
But for my account, there is no 25% off, instead of 4x25% of full price payment, each delay for 90 days.
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When I said "25% down", I meant a 25% downpayment, not a 25% off deal. Sorry if that was confusing.

craighwk said:
When I said "25% down", I meant a 25% downpayment, not a 25% off deal. Sorry if that was confusing.
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Oh, I think it's my problem, could tell the difference between down and off, English not so well.
Thanks for sharing. :good:

DontPushButtons said:
Edit: although, it's certainly much easier to believe, considering the activity around this forum, that they just haven't been selling very well
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As best I can tell, they seem to be selling pretty well, however most of the people who would normally be interested in rooting a 7" tablet likely have already gone to the Nexus 7 (which also seems to defeat the purpose of unlocking the bootloader in the first place seeing as they get updates before pretty much anyone else, but I digress...).
Bezos has said the intent was to sell the devices as close to cost as possible. Considering all of these occasional discounts and alternate payment arrangements, I wonder if they're seeing a reduction in their parts costs and are, instead of waiting to do a full-on price cut, instead doing these half-measures to coax out some additional sales for the holiday season and then just make them permanent later on.

I jumped on it to get the 8.9 HDX 64g with Verizon 4G.

killer_roach said:
As best I can tell, they seem to be selling pretty well, however most of the people who would normally be interested in rooting a 7" tablet likely have already gone to the Nexus 7 (which also seems to defeat the purpose of unlocking the bootloader in the first place seeing as they get updates before pretty much anyone else, but I digress...).
Bezos has said the intent was to sell the devices as close to cost as possible. Considering all of these occasional discounts and alternate payment arrangements, I wonder if they're seeing a reduction in their parts costs and are, instead of waiting to do a full-on price cut, instead doing these half-measures to coax out some additional sales for the holiday season and then just make them permanent later on.
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Well, updates to Aosp also means updates to most roms eventually, which is also good stuff. I have an n4, and I'm always excited to see what the devs do with new android releases. Further polishing updates from Google, so I can understand the Nexus ecosystem.
I would be surprised to find they're selling enough to actually cut the price of the Hdx though. It's a very niche tablet, but then again Amazon has a lot of users. Really could've gotten a lot more sales if they allowed sideloading Google services though. But in the long term, it does lock more people into Amazon services, so we'll see how it plays out for them.
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how can i get this deal? and yes i have a amazon account.

sicmadek said:
how can i get this deal? and yes i have a amazon account.
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Click the link in the first post of the thread.

king_xerxes said:
I jumped on it to get the 8.9 HDX 64g with Verizon 4G.
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This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!

Z_Black said:
This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!
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Seems to work with any HDX. Either the 7" or 8.9 in all of their various configurations.
As for how to get the deal, make sure you are logged into your Amazon account when you click the link in my original post. I have seen some situations where people are just being told they are not eligible, for whatever reasons.

Restrictions per Android central:
There are a few restrictions, though. Folks from Washington, DC or Florida need not apply, and you have to have been an Amazon customer for two years. In addition, you need to have a credit card on file that expires no earlier than March 2014*— no debit cards are accepted.
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Z_Black said:
This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!
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Yes, but It was the At&T not Verizon. Sorry.

I decided to give this a try as well. With Prime I will have it by Tuesday. I have held off on any of the Kindle devices, but after getting and being really happy with the Nook HD+ I figured for the initial $125 out of pocket the HDX 8.9 was worth checking out.

Well, I'm pulling the trigger as well thanks to this thread and deal.....thanks for sharing O/P!!!
I do have a question though, not that rooting won't be in my future with this device but I'm just curious if the Kindle 'market' is any better than the Nook Market or is everything a purchase in that one too?

Pushed me over the edge also... went for the 8.9 64Gb. They made it irresistible. Here's hoping I can put my existing apps on it!
Rich

dorpmuller said:
Pushed me over the edge also... went for the 8.9 64Gb. They made it irresistible. Here's hoping I can put my existing apps on it!
Rich
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Man I have my fingers and toes crossed for us

Just SOLD my Fire HDX 7"....

Just sold my Kindle Fire HDX due to the Actions of Amazon.
It is ridiculous to rip off Android software and lock it down like it's an Apple - WHO ACTUALLY DEVELOPS THEIR OWN SOFTWARE.
Jeff Bezos is the scum of the earth.
I will never buy another product from Amazon and I spent nearly $20,000 last year with them between and my business. My Prime is about to run out....and a long term loyal customer would chew out the greedy executives.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SATELLITE MAP THAT WORKS ON IT!! RIDICULOUS!!
I ADVISE ALL TO DO THE SAME.
Android was all about open source....been in it since the beginning.....To rip off an older version of Android and lock it down due to greed is the American way.
Amazon is the scum of the earth.......NEVER AGAIN
Go ahead and rip into me......YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.

Nature Lover said:
Just sold my Kindle Fire HDX due to the Actions of Amazon.
It is ridiculous to rip off Android software and lock it down like it's an Apple - WHO ACTUALLY DEVELOPS THEIR OWN SOFTWARE.
Jeff Bezos is the scum of the earth.
I will never buy another product from Amazon and I spent nearly $20,000 last year with them between and my business. My Prime is about to run out....and a long term loyal customer would chew out the greedy executives.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SATELLITE MAP THAT WORKS ON IT!! RIDICULOUS!!
I ADVISE ALL TO DO THE SAME.
Android was all about open source....been in it since the beginning.....To rip off an older version of Android and lock it down due to greed is the American way.
Amazon is the scum of the earth.......NEVER AGAIN
Go ahead and rip into me......YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
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Each to their own I guess.
I for one like Amazon products and their customer service is second to none.
I also think the HDX is superb, but I did my research and knew exactly what I was buying and was under no illusions of what I could and couldn't do with it. For what I use it for, it's perfect.
You disagree, and that's perfectly fine, if we were all the same it'd be a boring place here

I just bought a 256 gig ssd for 50 bucks because I'd this thing. I'll buy the nexus 8 when it cokes out and use both
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