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Struggling with memory and cant find the answer

I have done lots of searches but can't solve this one so I am hoping someone can walk me through it.
I have a 2GB storage card and I would really like to sync directly to it. It doesn't really matter for My DOcuments and bits and bobs as they are not big and I can always move them but the probelm is email.
I like to keep my outlook synchronised and certain folders synced at all times but unlike the MDAIII the Vatio II can't do this as the memory is too low. I need a way to store the attachments on the card and be able to access them seemlessly or to just sync directly with the card (ideally).
I have looked at the link for mobilesync but it doesn;t download properly and I can't get it to work. If anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it. I am not up to tweeking registries etc. I am IT literate but not a boffin!
thanks

If you go to email, email options, memory tab - you can select to store attachments to to storagecard. It works fine with incoming email attachments - not totally sure about outlook emails but its probably worth a try. Let me know the result

There is a setting in Mobile Outlook that allows you to store attachments on the storage card. Did you try that? Within Messaging it is Tools/Options/Storage tab

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My device now isn't syncing at all. THe laptop is connecting as it is charging the device but it is seeing it as a guest and not syncing - help

oh dear
I have done this and it is now syncing fine but I still can't access teh attahment s when reading my mail because presumably it is not accessing my storage card by default. How do I set it to read attachments from there?

I don't want to ask the obvious but in activesync have you unchecked the boxes in options / email that limit file size or limit the download of attachments? If these are still checked it could be your problem

[OUTLOOK MAIL STORAGE LOCATION] Can we change it ?

Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?

if you are wanting to free up space by moving attachments you can move it to the storage card.
Start->Email->Highlight the outlook account->menu->options
then select the storage tab and check the box so that the phone will use the storage card for all attachments

Thank you very very much

Move all to mem card
ZaZu90 said:
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
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try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers

fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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What does it do though ?

ZaZu90 said:
What does it do though ?
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Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers

fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Thanks

Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab

vdelab said:
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
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+1 on this... would love to know

ctman said:
+1 on this... would love to know
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puahing it

fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Ehum, I wouldnt be so sure. That cab adds/changes these two keys:
[HLKLM\System\Inbox\Settings]
AttachPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging\Attachments"
PropertyPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging"
Afaik, "Internal Storage" isnt mapped to the Storage Card in any way, at least not on the HD2? Has anyone tried this cab on the HD2? Might work if simply changed to "\Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments" and "\Storage Card\Messaging" respectively?

Use with caution
I would use this with extreme caution. All testing I have done on the HD2 (moving my mail files was one of the first things I tried when I got the device back in November) has suggested that the usual registry hack does not work and will merely create the Storage Card 2 issue. It's easy enough to sort out but it certainly won't move the mail files.
If anyone knows different and has got anything working in this respect please correct me but I believe the HD2 just won't play ball.
For what it's worth, the best guess I have at the problem is that the some element of the mail application is kicking off before the Storage Card is mounted

HTC HD2 Work Around - I assume
The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.

I edited the registry and set "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath" = "\Storage Card\email\". After the first soft reset, I had the "Storage Card2" problem, so I went into Resco Explorer and moved the "email" directory to "\Storage Card2\email\", then soft reset again. On the 2nd boot, Storage Card is back to being named as Storage Card, and now, all my emails are on the Storage Card instead of internal memory.
I have over 4000 emails with attachments downloaded now without any impact on internal storage space.
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I'm still getting the "Storage Card2" problem on a few soft resets... I guess the only way is to have the email text on the device and attachments in the Storage Card...

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The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
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Please could someone advise the cabs information as above RED, thanks in advance.

@ben19
I don't believe your solution is any different to that which can be achieved by setting attachments to be stored on the card from within Pocket Outlook - which is also potentially safer as it doesn't involve a registry hack by the user.
@gregwee
I believe you will be stuck with the Storage card 2 issue until someone manages to crack the fact that the HD2 seems to load up email before it mounts the card. You are therefore correct in that having mail in main memory and attachments in the card is about the best we can do for now.
@apieceofcake
For the reasons above, I don't think any CAB will address the fundamental issue so my advice would be not to bother and simply set your attachments to be stored on the card

I would love to see a cab-file that could move all messages (not only headers) to my storage card as default.

Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!

weareborg said:
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
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FYI
pocket mechanic can relocate Outlook emails to your sd card, hope that helps.

Thanks S21s20! Have you confirmed it works for the HTC HD2?

Holy Grail: Save mail (not just attachements) on SD Card on HTC HD2

Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards

I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.

given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)

profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David

trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.

Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html

after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.

BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.

???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution

Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.

Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol

The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!

have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.

weareborg said:
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
rtydevine said:
Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?

bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.

Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...

Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?

as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.

The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!

as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
@mazzarin: what do you mean with
"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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what search?

[Q] Store emails (not just attachments) and SMS in SD Card

Hi,
I would like to know if it's possible to store all my mail outlook, hotmail etc and my smses on the storage card instead of the main memory as it runs out of space very quickly. I normally receive 40+ emails a day and would like to receive them all on the phone. The only link i found when searching was http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341467&highlight=email+card which was not answered

Not sure what you mean by 40 emails taking up too much space.. I have it set so that attachments are sent to the storage card and the emails on the phone. I usually get about 100 to 200 emails a day and they take up less than 2Mb..
But to answer your question, the only part of a message you can store on the Storage card is the attachments ^>^

40+ a day so it adds up pretty quickly when you only have 20-30mb of space free.

A way I used to do it with WM2005 is I would have the email pop'ed to my phone with different folders. I would send emails to those different folders to store them on the server, and then I could delete them off my phone.
I'm not sure if it will work now with WM6.5.5, and I can't test atm without my Herald, but try to give something like that a try with a few test emails..

[Q] How to store contacts & email on SD Card

I have a lot of contacts 1,000 and quite a few emails and folders that I want to put on my phone.
However, when I try to do this.....the phone slows down and warns me to free up space.
How do you sync with your phone.......but tell the phone to put those on the Memory Card?

Someone else may have a better answer for you, but the only thing I know you you can do is create a word document and type all of your contacts and their information in that document.
Then save that document on your SD card.

khosshasarn said:
I have a lot of contacts 1,000 and quite a few emails and folders that I want to put on my phone.
However, when I try to do this.....the phone slows down and warns me to free up space.
How do you sync with your phone.......but tell the phone to put those on the Memory Card?
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The only thing I can think of for your emails is to use a different email client rather than pocket outlook. Take a look in the WM apps forums.
Most contact managers use the Outlook database, but you might also have some luck trying a different app.