Custom roms pros and cons? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm really thinking about installing cm7 as I'm tired of the sad battery life on the MT4G, however, I'm finding it somewhat difficult to weigh the other pros and cons of switching from stock. There are plenty of threads and videos on how to do this, and plenty that talk about speed, but that doesn't really help answer my questions about functionality unfortunately.
Here's the thing: There are certain things in the stock rom that I don't want to lose in the process and I can't seem to figure out what I will gain and lose by switching.
Here's what I know so far about switching:
- I will have a longer battery life.
- I will lose the genius button functionality, but I can install that separately, so no big deal. I use this for texting handsfree while driving - just connect an audio cable to my stereo.
- The bloat is gone.
Here's what I can't figure out:
- How does the homescreen function without sense? Does it look the same? Do I maintain the built in widget sets?
- Do I lose the quick settings option from the status bar?
- Will my phone still wake using the trackpad?
- Will all the major abilities and apps function normally? Specifically messaging, Google browser, long press shortcuts (ie send link to: X using Y app), alarms, camera, GPS?
Opinions, advice?
TMO MT4G unlocked/rooted with Wind Mobile, running 2.3.4 (pre security update)

I suggest to move to one of the new non-T-Mobile Sense versions. Sense 3 or 3.5.
You'll retain the functionality that you want, gain some new one, most likely gain battery life, and won't lose the good sides of Sense that you're used to (widgets etc).
In the worst case, it's just a simple trial and error process - you can try different ROMs, and if you decide that stock suited you better than everything - you'll be able to install it, and probably even tweaked and customizable version of it.

I didn't know that there was such a thing. I don't mind losing the ”prettiness” of sense, I just need the functionality to be there.
Any rom names off the top of your head that I can look for?
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nuclearbroccoli said:
I didn't know that there was such a thing. I don't mind losing the ”prettiness” of sense, I just need the functionality to be there.
Any rom names off the top of your head that I can look for?
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Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0
Virtuous Affinity Sense 3.5
DARKSIDE SENSE 3.5
RCMix3D Sense 3.5
these are all the top Sense Sense ROMs for the MT4G.

Thanks, I'll take a look at those and see if they suit my needs.

nuclearbroccoli said:
Thanks, I'll take a look at those and see if they suit my needs.
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oh, and if you want something in between... check out my ROM
InfernoSense v4.0 by Team Inferno

nuclearbroccoli said:
Here's what I know so far about switching:
- I will have a longer battery life.
- I will lose the genius button functionality, but I can install that separately, so no big deal. I use this for texting handsfree while driving - just connect an audio cable to my stereo.
- The bloat is gone.
Here's what I can't figure out:
- How does the homescreen function without sense? I don't even get this question. Does it look the same? Different types of Android look different from one another. Sense has its look. TouchWiz has its. Vanilla Android has its. Do I maintain the built in widget sets? If you go with another Sense ROM, then yes, you will most likely have more sense most ROM here now are 3.0 or 3.5.
- Do I lose the quick settings option from the status bar? In most of the aftermarket ROMs, you will gain more quick settings. Read about the ROMs offered here.
- Will my phone still wake using the trackpad? Most of the ROMs have incorporated this into the build.
- Will all the major abilities and apps function normally? Apps? Yes. Abilities? Depends on the ROM. Some have a few bugs, others don't. Camera seems to be a big issues on this aftermarket sense ROMs, but there's usually a fix somewhere in the thread for that ROM. Specifically messaging, Google browser, long press shortcuts (ie send link to: X using Y app), alarms, camera, GPS?
Opinions, advice? After market ROMs are smoother than stock ROMs and obviously have better battery life as you know. They have much more that you can customize depending on the ROM. After market ROMs are ALWAYS better than stock. So, have fun choosing. Personally, I'm on Core Droid.
TMO MT4G unlocked/rooted with Wind Mobile, running 2.3.4 (pre security update)
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See above in read for answers.

personally this is the best sense rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384217

I always end up having issues with sense 3.5 roms and won't recommend them to anyone. Vu 2.39 is amazing though. There is also some mysense roms out there that will look just like your stock phone, I can think of about 3 off the top of my head.
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Ok, a lot of good info.
How about opinions on the least buggy rom available at the present?
Reliability is good too.
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Cm7.2 gigglebread/euroskank with tdj's kernel.can't say enough about it.
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nuclearbroccoli said:
Ok, a lot of good info.
How about opinions on the least buggy rom available at the present?
Reliability is good too.
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Least buggy and most reliable is cm7.1 stable. Vu 2.39 is awesome and of course my debloated stock mysense is great too. Best on battery is cm7 though.
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What happened to royalginger and iced glacier?

Virtuous Unity is a great start I'd say.

NovoRei said:
What happened to royalginger and iced glacier?
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I think you can find both of those on acs website.
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i've been using virtuous unity 2.39 ever since it went to a stable build. it has good battery life (better then stock) and the performance is great if you like the sense roms. if not i would cay cm7 is also the other one that you should try

if you wanted to go throwback, you could use cm6. I always got better battery life on it than with cm7 back when i used it... try miui. theme it if the looks bother you.
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Virtuous Unity looks pretty good, so I'll probably go with that once I figure out how too add the swype keyboard....
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nuclearbroccoli said:
Virtuous Unity looks pretty good, so I'll probably go with that once I figure out how too add the swype keyboard....
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Go to swype website and download the beta installer. Easiest way.
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I use Darkside Sense V4.0..(android 2.3.5) i like it, i have no issues at all..

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New ROM

I am currently running SkyRaider's Vanilla RC3 and LOVE it! I am looking for a new ROM to play with though. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Virtuous 2.7 running Kings #4 kernel is what I'm rocking right now, if you're into a Sense-based ROM it's quite good
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I am currently running SkyRaider's Vanilla RC3 and LOVE it! I am looking for a new ROM to play with though. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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CM6 is a must of you don't like sense like me
The only thing I like about sense is the clock and as you can see below I've got that covered
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I tried an aosp rom the other day, Ruby. It isn't quite stable yet (random reboots throughout the day) but its an interesting change of pace from a sense-based rom. The super smooth scrolling is really nice too!
In the end I went back to SRV due to the instability, but I made a nandroid in case a more stable update is released.
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superchilpil said:
CM6 is a must of you don't like sense like me
The only thing I like about sense is the clock and as you can see below I've got that covered
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Whoa that sense clock is stunningly close to the official! Could you tell me the name of that widget? I've tried fancy widget (rides too high and close to the notification bar) and Weather & Toggle Widget (background cuts off at the bottom too short). Both are similar but not faithful to the original.. the one in your screencap looks identical to the original HTC one, minus the color scheme of course.
I'm a graphics guy so yes I am super picky
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(I like the clock, too!)
Back to topic: +1 for Virtuous 2.7, but prefer Adryn's kernal.
Div033 said:
Whoa that sense clock is stunningly close to the official! Could you tell me the name of that widget? I've tried fancy widget (rides too high and close to the notification bar) and Weather & Toggle Widget (background cuts off at the bottom too short). Both are similar but not faithful to the original.. the one in your screencap looks identical to the original HTC one, minus the color scheme of course.
I'm a graphics guy so yes I am super picky
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It is *cough* fancy widget
Its a edited version obviously and beautiful at that
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How did you edit fancy widget?
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How did you edit fancy widget?
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I didn't do it personally
But the easyest way I heard it to rip the .apk apart with a program like a zip extractor and edit the files from there then rezip them and digitally sign the application
Again I can be wrong but if anyone knows how I would like to learn the exactly correct way
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I didn't do it personally
But the easyest way I heard it to rip the .apk apart with a program like a zip extractor and edit the files from there then rezip them and digitally sign the application
Again I can be wrong but if anyone knows how I would like to learn the exactly correct way
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This is correct. You need to unzip it with winzip. Go to the \res\drawable-hdpi and edit the .png files that you want a different color. Then you need to use winzip and zip it as a .apk file then have it digitally signed and then zipalign it.
partizan81 said:
Virtuous 2.7 running Kings #4 kernel is what I'm rocking right now, if you're into a Sense-based ROM it's quite good
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I have a nandroid of Virtuous 2.7 on my phone. Once I went Vanilla it's hard to go back to a Sense ROM. I think I'm going to give CM6 a run, but I have heard a lot about the instablility of AOSP ROMs and that kind of scares me. SkyRaider is rock solid, and would hate to go to something that's not stable.
Redemption
I've bee pretty happy with the Redemption Rom. Why?
Depending on what you want, stock app-wise, it's easily customizable as far as adding/removing what you want. Same story with the 'value added' goodies Lou bakes into the ROM itself. He included several apps in the load that I didn't know I would want or use, until I tried them - now they seem essential to any ROM, imho.
It's easily customizable via the links he provides in the main thread, and there's elements you can easily add/remove based on where he put them in the ROM itself.
For me, this one's my daily, and if you like sense, there's a menu of tweaks/options you can do with this ROM to make it all your own.
Agreed, Redemption is a great one. SR Vanilla, and Virtuous are also great. I'm loving Redemption though, great goodies, smooth, plus love the lock screen and notification window.
I do love SR's boot animation, with the Androids popping up...
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The only thing I have against RR, (minor, to be sure), is the lack of support in ROM manager. I'm lazy, sometimes, and like to check for updates through it or am at work and don't want to bother with a mobile browser. I'm currently switching between Virtuous 3.0.1 and Shadow ROM.
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superchilpil:
CM6 is a must of you don't like sense like me
The only thing I like about sense is the clock and as you can see below I've got that covered
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I also would love to have that clock. Could/would you upload and link it?
smtom said:
I've bee pretty happy with the Redemption Rom. Why?
Depending on what you want, stock app-wise, it's easily customizable as far as adding/removing what you want. Same story with the 'value added' goodies Lou bakes into the ROM itself. He included several apps in the load that I didn't know I would want or use, until I tried them - now they seem essential to any ROM, imho.
It's easily customizable via the links he provides in the main thread, and there's elements you can easily add/remove based on where he put them in the ROM itself.
For me, this one's my daily, and if you like sense, there's a menu of tweaks/options you can do with this ROM to make it all your own.
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I agree. Ive been through rom manager and flashed them all. Redemption is a great rom.
Redemption 2.0.3. king kernel oc-uv #5. incredible revolution theme, rosie removed. Launcher pro. Prepare for glory splash. Various boot animations.

[Q] Which is the best Sense ROM for you?

Recently I joined here again and I've seen some new ROMs with the comming of the official FroYo. I've been here for a while looking for some Froyo Sense ROM and they all look really nice. I've been running Wildpuzzle after CM but it's a bit slow and now I'm searching a better one (if it's possible).
Which Sense ROM would you highly recommend?
Thanks for all and sorry for my bad english!!
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All Sense ROM's will be slower than AOSP (Non-Sense) ROM's because Sense requires a lot of processing power. You can look at Sunaabh as an alternative to WildPuzzle but I doubt it will be as fast as CyanogenMod.
For me personally, I use WildPuzzle because I like to keep a Sense ROM, and, Live Wallpapers in Sense = Win for me.
I haven't tried any others, but WildPuzzle 0.7 seems very good currently, and not too slow at all, specially if you overclock it.
wildpuzzle v8.0 is the best Rom .
Im using wildpuzzle...
But
For me cyanogen is better,too bad camera recording and radio is not working and some other bugs.
Thats the only reason why im on wildpuzzle.
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Stock since i am stuck with hboot 1.01 and cannot install a custom rom
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brilldoctor said:
Stock since i am stuck with hboot 1.01 and cannot install a custom rom
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I hope for you that there will be an different way
WildpuzzleROM,even thou i'm using launcherpro to replace sense,i still prefer it over CyanogenMod due to the bugs and different apps(gallery,flashlight,etc.)
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If you're looking for something that is reliable and fairly close to stock, just tweaked here and there, I'd say Sunaabh.
If you want a more tweakable and enhanced version of Sense then head over to Wildpuzzle. Can't really go wrong with that one.
I'd recommend trying out an AOSP ROM with a different launcher, like Launcher Pro, if you're game; the phone tends to be a lot smoother that way.
what is wrong with ADW launcher in AOSP?
Astral07 said:
what is wrong with ADW launcher in AOSP?
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Nothing. Some people do get crashes and instability using it though. Although I have been using the inbuilt ADW Launcher with CM7 since I have been using it, and, there have been no issues.
Also, for people who have spent time with both launchers, they are of the opinion that LP offers more features, and, is more stable.
hm ok...i've been using ADW on wildfire and X10 and 0 crashes or problems...
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Looking to switch back to Sense

I have been using CyanogenMod for a while now, but I want to give Sense another try. I have a couple quick questions.
- Are there any Sense ROMs that are a fairly decent balance of fast and stable? I can deal with the occasional force close if the ROM is significantly faster than another, but I'd say stability is more of a priority to me.
- I don't particularly like the Sense People and Calendar apps (I've found they're a bit slower than the AOSP apps). Can I just install the AOSP versions without major stability issues? If yes, would the Sense dialer still be able to pull from the AOSP Contacts app?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I omitted one thing. I'd say that stability is the most important aspect, followed by battery life. I know battery life is mostly determined by the kernel. Can anyone recommend a good Sense kernel as well?
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I would try WarmZ 2.2 or Incredibly Re-Engineered both of those are sense 2.0 and are stable and fast. I liked both. But it's up to you!
Kernel wise, the kernels they come with worked great for me.
SkyRaider 3.5 w/Lou's #8 - slick....
4.0 is due out very soon.
Nils business z with ziggys latest bfs wo havs kernel is very stable with xcellent battery
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Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but there's been a spattering of reports on phantom calls and reboots. Hence, I would not say they are fully stable and dependable. There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard).
In my experience, you need to stick with 100% incredible framework if you value stability and reliability. I am a huge fan of both IncROM and Magnolia. They are both very fast in my book, and everything works out of the box, so to speak. When SR 4 hits in a few days it may be great as well.
To your question about contacts...
No, you cannot simply install AOSP versions onto a Sense ROM. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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Redemption.
k_nivesout said:
I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.
raptir said:
Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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SkyRaider 3.5, and then 4.0 when it is released (you can look at image previews of 4.0 through ROM manager if you wish).
Epicardium said:
yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.
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Oh ok, I never ran into that but I see what you mean. I think after we get the ota update things will be a lot smoother in regards to some of the z rom issues. Assuming we get an updated sense that is..
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Epicardium said:
Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but........ There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard). ............
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I use Swype. I also ask annoyed by that issue with the cut and paste option blocking the word choice/edit on MIUI. I assumed it was part of Gingerbread. Not so?
Edit- pls excuse my blunder. Of course Warm Z is not GB so that answers my question. Then again MIUI is AOSP and also has that.
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My strong recommendation would be Magnolia. Options are superb.. battery is splendid... and the developer entertains personal requests.
Best stable and aesthetically pleasing rom for me.
warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus
sruel3216 said:
warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus
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Yup
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Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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raptir said:
Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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That's gotta be some kind of mistake. I've had the best battery life on Skyraider. I usually can get near 18 hours or more...
Well, what kernel are you using? Also, I did find that if I get rid of all my widgets I get better battery life, but that kind of makes Sense seem silly...
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I get fantastic battery off nils business z with ziggys kernel
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AOSP or SENSE??

Hi all,
I am stucked by choices.. I love the AOSP ICS rosie UI and features.. but I can't live w/o sense apps and especially HTC Sync. Is there anyway we can have ICS rosie with HTC apps like premium navigation, messages, blah blah and importantly HTC sync ???
knoobie said:
Hi all,
I am stucked by choices.. I love the AOSP ICS rosie UI and features.. but I can't live w/o sense apps and especially HTC Sync. Is there anyway we can have ICS rosie with HTC apps like premium navigation, messages, blah blah and importantly HTC sync ???
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What about an ics-sense rom.?
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Install a Sense rom, and after install launcher ICS Style
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All the ics sense Rom are still abit far from fully working..
Was it possible to change Rosie to ics Rosie?
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AOSP! Speed and efficiency!
It's speed and efficiency, over looks.
I've tried them all, but i always go back to Sense 3.5. (Waiting for stable for daily use 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6)
Well.. I was just wondering if we can have all.. aosp sounds fun but HTC have many widgets and HTC sync to provide the convenience that I need.
Will uninstalling HTC sense do the trick or cause the Rom to Fc?
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It's all driven by personal choice.
I installed an AOSP ICS rom and I loved it, but ultimately, for me the experience was lacking without Sense. So I dropped back down to GB with Sense 3.5.
I'm waiting for a stable ICS release with Sense, will upgrade then
Well, that's why I'm asking if there is any way to combine both..
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I am also a huge fan of Sense. But i'm on IceColdSandwich and really love it for daily use. When there will be a working sense ICS ROM i will switch, but for now i'm going with the AOSP one. You can customize it so that it at least looks like a sense rom
do what I do...keep back up of another rom so if you get twitchy you can flip back etc..actually I have three at the moment .runny 4.0...this is my daily I use this more because of sense...ics just because its smooth and...sweet. and now got absolution.I'm not a gamer so save data etc doesn't matter to me..SMS can be retrieved if needed.contacts are on both so..my 10p worth
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Anyone else find battery life is poorer on sense roms, or is that just me? I'm currently using IceColdSandwich, really nice rom.
Well, an AOSP uses tons less space and ram, so i would imagine the battery life would be immense on that.
I flashed Virtuous Quattro and that used hardly any space in the system partition, where sense Roms use almost all of the space.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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I've been a sense guy too for a long time but I've recently been following lord's ice cold sandwich rom and I love it more than any sense rom out there.
The great thing would be a rom AOSP
with synchronization, camera and widgets (Sense)
Greetings!
Aosp. I always had sense. But I'm on LC s ics and its great. No more sense for me.
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knoobie said:
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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well yeah...launchers..adw have ics themes,launcherpro..golauncher ex has a sweet ics theme,all it does it change your dock etc and app draw,but lets you slide horizontal so thats good anyway...thats the only way your going to look like ics without losing sense,failing that,use the ics theme on a sense rom
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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Ok I will put it to you simple. The only way to have sense apps is to use Sense. Non of the widgets work without the launcher being used. All of the apps can be replaced with AOSP versions. Not sure about the navagation as I would never use a phone to tell me where i need to go. Sync seems to be a big deal for you and not sure why. There are far better option out there.
So simply if you want to use HTC apps then you will use Sense.
yeah but depends if he wants the widgets..the apps themselves can still work,your not wrong though,the asop is quicker,battery lasts longer.can customize more,..sadly although i have them on my back ups,im a sense rom junkie,gets on my nerves to be honest. im hoping,with sense 4..they up there game now,sense 3.6 is..just with a few added bits not really an overhaul and its debateable whether because its running ice cream in the background if it will actually make a difference
forgot to say,although you can replace all apps from sense with others in asop.The mail app still in my opinion is one of the leaders for that sort of app. If someone could port that out of a sense rom id be chuffed lol

Quickest But Stable Roms

I am currently running Andromadus Mimicry, but I have found it to be quite slow. Has anyone experienced any quick, but stable roms.
Thanks
Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Thanks, I ran CM7 for a while, but found it quite slow and laggy on my g2. I was just wondering if anyone had found any quick ICS roms.
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If you find Andromadus Mimicry and CM7.2 too slow, than I’m afraid you need a new phone
Minicry might not be 100% stable, but it is pretty close. I think the ICS (or JB) would not be significantly faster even with official HTC kernel (without hacks).
You can overclock your phone and try different governors. This way you can improve the “smoothness” at a cost of battery life. Also be sure you are running ext4 filesystem. And a fast SD card may help too, check if it is at least class 8.
Mimicry flies for me at 1.5ghz
Andromadus test builds with JellyBean are the fastest of all I've tested so far (cm7.*, cm9.*, MIUI, stock sense ROMs etc.). There are some bugs however (in latest build - #71 - for example camera stopped working), but speed, smoothness, and all JB-related-features of this ROM are really outstanding. I believe, that all annoying bugs will be smashed really soon and my G2 will last until new nexus comes out.
Ilwt cm7 #1
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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kbeezie said:
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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masterleron said:
Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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Sounds like you got a bit more than just rom choice for your problem, I've had neither of those issues (could even do 1500mhz if I wanted without a problem).
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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masterleron said:
Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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Well, it certinaly worked. It took a little longer than expected, I forgot to make a backup . The phone is a lot faster, with no slowdown periods. The only issue I have is mentioned here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842347
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lTWL. Fast stable. And battery life is amazing!
How about sense roms?
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I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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How about sense roms?
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Sense beyond 2.1/3.5(gingerbread) generally speaking is too much bloat for desirez/g2, sense 4.0A would be fine cept its been worsen and slowed down with the 3.0 kernel for sake of a working camera. The full sense 4.0 they took the kernel from is slow to the point of practically unusable on our devices.
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Azianmunk said:
I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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Jelly bean still has a bit of work to put into, but there are plenty of fast ICS roms (non-sense) out there with "functional" camera app (post-gb its mainly the camera people complain about)
I've found for me, ICS to be quicker/smoother than stock or CM7.2.
Regarding apps (while I don't condone piracy) titanium backup would be the solution, assuming said apps are compatible with ICS.
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If you want sense, flash sense 4.0 by geneysense it thinks the name. And then use romcleaner and flash after you flash rom and its smmoooth
Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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PS: "CM9" by Jerl is not CM9 Official (ie: it didn't come from the cyanogenmod people), it's just bout the same (if not worse in my opinion) than Mimicry which is based off Andromadus which is based off Cyanogenmod 9's source. Though if you do try Jerl's port of it, I strongly advise you not to use the 3.0 kernel, too many problems with it and he apparently didn't bother testing it before releasing it (or least didn't bother to tell people the risk).
Far as google account syncing, it depends on whether or not you made sure to flash google apps afterwards, and if you accidently booted prior to flashing it, then you need to make sure to remove all your accounts on the phone then re-add them as it says in the OP of that thread.

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