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I have this weird problem with the JJ. I have 2 SIM's with 2 different Operators. The JJ works just fine with one SIM .....
BUT, when I insert the other SIM, I can make calls normally, but I can receive only ONE call (i mean it, ONE), after that the damn thing won't receive calls anymore! (Like the phone is turned off or unreachable)
After trying to make calls for several times it does work, but again, one incoming call and that's it.
I tried that SIM in the 8800, it works just great.
Anybody has an idea on what's going on?
Thank you guys..
PS! I did post this in another topic, but needed some attnetion from you guys, so posted it in a new topic!
It is SIM free btw ..
Come on guys, 80 views and not a single reply.
I need to you that SIM in the JJ.
Could it work by a Radio upgrade or something?
OK, please tell us which version of ROM and radio stack you have.
Sure,
ROM 1.30.69
Radio 1.09.00
Thank you Richard.
the reason there are 80 reviews and no replies is cause nobody knows.
this is an anomoly, way out in left field, that I have never seen ever in all of the forums.
1. get a new sim card
2. get a new sim supplier
3. stop swapping them, and use the one that works
4. take the phone back under warranty and have them fix it.
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
SooSpecial said:
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
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Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
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No they aren't ... I tried to hard reset the Universal with that SIM installed, nothing changed, still can't receive calls.
And once the problem happens, GPRS won't connect as well..
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
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Already called them, they can do nothing about it, I traced our mail server using their GPRS, it stops some where is London! :lol:
I will try to down-grade the Jasjar with the old firmware. It might work :?:
Thanks buddies!
Can the Radio only be downgraded? Or I will have to downgrade the ROM as well?
You can downgrade the radio only, Find the radio you want on the ftp and then upgrade or downgrade just that
Here is what I tried so far..
1) Installing Qtek latest ROM, still didn't work.
2) Downgraded to Radio 1.06.00 and the problem is still there!! :evil:
Looks like I will be selling the JASJAR as soon as the P990i is here! :evil: :evil:
I suspect troubling SIM is UMTS (3G) enabled, AND has poor 3G coverage. JJ sees UMTS and spends its time trying to connect, but can't quite pull it off. I'm battling with this and trawling this board indicates that this is the issue; weak UMTS which you only experience witht he one SIM.
I can not send SMS when in GPRS/EDGE areas - receive is OK. When in WCDMA (3G) areas, SMS works fine. Has anyone else experienced this and perhaps found a solution?
Hi!
I also have problems with SMS sending. More or less with any network I am in. Usually I can only send one to two SMSes, then I need to reboot to be able to send/receive again. SMS just hangs for a moment in Outbox, then an error message is displayed, network connection drops and then reestablish, SMS is put in Draft. VERY annoying!
TomazL
Had the SMS sending problem (send 1 or 2, then had to reboot or rest went to drafts) when I first bought my phone e last year.
My problem? Old outdated SIM card. Went to dealer and they gave me a new one. Problem solved!
I did change SIM four times in the past 10 days. From the latest to the oldest my mobile operator has to offer. To no avail. Strange thing is that I have tested some SIM cards I could get my hand on (my father's for example) and two of them did not have this problem.
What could be the issue with SIM card? Why some are "outdated"?
Good question. I'm a pretty techy guy, but I know little about SIM cards.
I asked 5 techs who seem just as clueless. They said:
1. Newer SIM cards have More towers listed (doubtful)
2. Some SIM cards aren't compatible with 3G phones (maybe)
3. SIM contacts are dirty (no)
4. SIM might be overheating (no)
5. Some SIMs draw more current in certain network modes (doubtful)
I bet it IS your SIM. Ask if they have a 3G-compliant SIM. T-Mobile USA has no 3G yet but their SIMs are supposedly compatible. Who knows
Thanks for all the replies! I tried a friends new SIM and it doesn't work either, so I know it's not that. Re-booting doesn't help either. I am on the T-Mobile network and it works as soon as I am in their 3G area. It used to work on GSM until I upgraded to the official GPS update ROM and then it hung a few times and last week stopped sending altogether. It gives me a message that it is unable to send and moves the SMS to the drafts folder. Receive is OK. Is it possible that the radio (1.38) has become corrupted and maybe a new version (1.41) will solve this?
Re-booting only helps in sending one to two SMSes after reboot (and receiving queued ones). Otherwise I have just the same behaviour as you describe. I have also noticed that until I tap on OK on SMS error message, I am not available for incoming calls either! Do you also notice that after SMS error message network drops and reconnects? I have tried some friend's/family SIMs and majority did not work, two of them did. I don't know why. Where will 1.41 version of radio be available? Is it official?
Soj said:
Re-booting only helps in sending one to two SMSes after reboot (and receiving queued ones). Otherwise I have just the same behaviour as you describe. I have also noticed that until I tap on OK on SMS error message, I am not available for incoming calls either! Do you also notice that after SMS error message network drops and reconnects? I have tried some friend's/family SIMs and majority did not work, two of them did. I don't know why. Where will 1.41 version of radio be available? Is it official?
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Here's the link to the radio upgrade: http://www.file-upload.net/download-...-SPL-.rar.html
I haven't tried this yet, so I don't know if it will help.
Hi! Link is broken!?
Soj
Soj said:
Hi! Link is broken!?
Soj
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Here is the link to the thread - the download options are on the first page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304006
PGMMA said:
I can not send SMS when in GPRS/EDGE areas - receive is OK. When in WCDMA (3G) areas, SMS works fine. Has anyone else experienced this and perhaps found a solution?
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I definately notice this problem as well. Always when the message is 2 SMS long... never can send. Perhaps it is the same problem as when the call is ended as soon as it is dialed, I read on one thread that the phone has trouble when switching to a 3g tower or not... I have a brand new ATT sim (cingular customer) in the Wash. DC area and I still have problems sending large SMS... sometimes reboot fixes but most times not... been searching also... I'm going to try to choose GSM only and vice versa to see if that makes any difference... the only other option for SMS is "Use unicode when necessary" does anyone know if that would fix?
Micah
I have now received fifth replacement SIM (looks like a very old and used one) from my mobile operator here in Slovenia, Europe. SMS sending and receiving now works like a charm! Strange that some SIMs work for no obvoius reason.
TomazL
mook2420 said:
I definately notice this problem as well. Always when the message is 2 SMS long... never can send. Perhaps it is the same problem as when the call is ended as soon as it is dialed, I read on one thread that the phone has trouble when switching to a 3g tower or not... I have a brand new ATT sim (cingular customer) in the Wash. DC area and I still have problems sending large SMS... sometimes reboot fixes but most times not... been searching also... I'm going to try to choose GSM only and vice versa to see if that makes any difference... the only other option for SMS is "Use unicode when necessary" does anyone know if that would fix?
Micah
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The phone has no problem switching between GSM and 3G (WCDMA) and in fact SMS works perfectly in 3G covered areas. I cannot send even a one word test, let alone a large message in my GSM area. I recently noticed that I can send SMS in some areas and not in others. Of course, I live in an area where I cannot send. What's weird is that it used to work. It may be that T-Mobile updated the network in some areas and that this is not compatible with Windows Mobile phones. My Sony Ericsson and Nokia phones still work. I'm hoping that when WM6 (official or at least Dopod) comes out, SMS will work properly again.
I wonder if anyone can help with a fault on my M3100. So far I've searched this website for answers with no luck. I have Hard Reset the phone, upgraded the Radio, all without any luck.
About 6 days ago my M3100 suddenly stopped being able to make or receive calls. Whenever I try to dial out the call drops out before being established, and if I try to call in to the phone the caller receives a series of beeps.
At first it seems to be a SIM problem, but the Vodaphone SIM is fine in any other phone. If I put my Orange SIM in the phone it just comes up as "No Service".
I'm at the end of the line in what to do and it doesn't seems to make any sense.
Any comments, suggestions, advice or help very much appreciated.
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I can send and receive text message with my Vodaphone SIM installed and access WiFi and GPRS networks. Orange SIM won't connect at all! Both SIMS work fine in a standard phone ! Only clue I can think of here is that the Vodaphone SIM is UMPTS and GSM where the Orange is GSM only. The spare phone I tested them in was GSM only.
Could the GSM part of the M3100 be stuffed ?
I'm stumped for the time being!! It doesn't seem to make any logical sense. Maybe any of you who know the in's and out's of how the device communicates might find some clues in that...
Heeeeelp !
More details..
I've just added a few more details on the symtoms.. maybe the few extra clues might yeild some thoughts from someone !
Have you checked the band selection in Settings > Phone?
Is it possible that the phone could have become blacklisted? How long have you had it? How did you buy it? (This is probably NOT it, since the text still works.)
Have you tried a tweaker to enable HSPDA?
Had the phone for over 12 months so Blacklisted shouldn't be the issue. I've tried all the band selections including Auto but no luck.
Haven't tried the Tweaker... do you have any details on that...
Up until it suddenly stopped working it worked on all networks..
Another possible clue is that I was "Roaming" in France for a month and it was there that I made my last successful call. I have UK SIMS... I have an Australian SIM which I'll try now to see if that makes any difference..
Tried an Australian SIM roaming in the UK ! The service connects on two available networks,Vodaphone and TMobile but not on Orange and O2 (like with the Orange UK SIM). Same fault as the before with the networks it will connect to.
This seems to eliminate the SIM or Network being the fault and isolate the fault to the Device...
probably not the issues, but worth a try?
I live in a very strong 3G + HSPDA ares, but cant make or recieve anycalls tho texts work on T-mobile, i need to have my phone in 2G mode, and calls work fine???
If i leave my house and go a few miles 3G works as it should able to call and recieve etc!
Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!
I have had very similar problems to this.
Please see my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325149
I do think this is some sort of network problem as after I posted the issues in the thread above, I left home and travelled about 6 miles and the signal came back and the phone worked fine.
Today, I have been able to make and receice calls but all of a sudden I got cut off from a call then could not make or receive calls (incoming goes straight to voicemail).
I can however use my Orange SIM without problem and both Vodafone and Orange SIMs work fine in other phones.
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Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!
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im running schaps 3.57a rom and in my Comm Manager, its at the bottom on his 12 button one, where you can turn on/off, wlan, bt, flightmode, direct push etc
stevegardner said:
Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!
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You can also go into Settings > Phone > Band.
If the band tab does not appear (to the right of the network tab), then you may need to do a registry tweak.
From the very helpful wiki:
Enable/Disable GSM/UMTS Band Selection
Cingular kindly disables anything useful about the network on the 8525. To enable the Band Selection Tab on your Phone settings page, set the following:
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000001
To disable, simply clear the value to 0:
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000000
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Have travelled outside England again this week and... well the phone works fine roaming on my UK Vodaphone SIM. Seems very ODD.. only thing I can put any logic to is a problem with the GSM part of the phone. It's working here in Stockholm on the 3G network no problem.
Anyone advise how I force the phone to be on GSM and 3G so I can test this theory. The BAND settings under SETTINGS>PHONE don't seem to give you this control over how it connects..
Hey i got the same problem anyone solved it yet!
Hi Sunnyb1
Since my last post I returned to England where the phone was useless. No SIM cards would work, some would not register at all but my Vodaphone SIM seemed to register but as before it would not receive calls, nor could I make calls out.
Now I'm in Australia with an Australian SIM card. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL !!
The phone works just fine !!
It's a mystery indeed...
Without any knowledge of the ins & Outs of how a SIM card / Network / and the phone work together it's impossible for me to arrive at any conclusive logic.
Hopefully someone might stand up to the plate and offer some explanation !
Anyone from HTC out there ??????
Steve
stevegardner said:
Hi Sunnyb1
Since my last post I returned to England where the phone was useless. No SIM cards would work, some would not register at all but my Vodaphone SIM seemed to register but as before it would not receive calls, nor could I make calls out.
Now I'm in Australia with an Australian SIM card. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL !!
The phone works just fine !!
It's a mystery indeed...
Without any knowledge of the ins & Outs of how a SIM card / Network / and the phone work together it's impossible for me to arrive at any conclusive logic.
Hopefully someone might stand up to the plate and offer some explanation !
Anyone from HTC out there ??????
Steve
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I got the phone and it was working perfectly on Orange then i tried unlocking it and ever since it has come up with "NO Service" like you everytime i put a Orange Sim in the phone it does not show up.. but when i put a Vodafone sim it works perfectly i tried reflashing the radio's many times
I unlocked this particular phone 6months before this problem showed up so I don't think the Unlock on it's own is the cause. What's particularly baffling is that a SIM may not work with the phone in one country.. but in another it works fine.
..... another country that is !
Hey Steve i have found out what the problem is after hours of research
I found this of another website
Orange & O2:
If you place an active orange or
O2 sim into a blacklisted handset you
phone will not show any signal strength
at all! If the handset is a Nokia then a
"SIM card registration failed" message
will also be displayed. If your handset is an
Ericsson then an "Invalid Mobile" message
will be displayed. For most other manufacturers
the handset will simply show no signal!
Vodafone & T-Mobile
If you place an active Vodafone or T-Mobile sim into a blacklisted handset, the phone will appear to function perfectly UNTIL you try to make an outgoing call. When you try to call out from the handset you will hear a sequence of beeps and then the call will be dropped!!
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This means the handset you got is stolen or someone has blacklisted it ... i got mine of EBAY! and reading that i figured that it is stolen
It wont work in the UK but it will work everywhere else in the world
Mmmm... that's interesting Sunnyb1. If my phone is blacklisted then happened in JULY this year which was 8 months after I bought the phone. I bought the phone legit .
Can anyone advise what the "Blacklisting" process is.. I assume its done by using the IMEI number.
Who is the rightful owner of a handset and can any phone be blacklisted by anyone, and possibly by mistake ?
Would unlocking the phone from Orange cause a phone to be blacklisted ??
How can you "Un-blacklist" a phone.
Answered my own question here......
This website seems to have the answers
http://www.unlockme.co.uk/blacklist.html
OK... still on this thread. Can anyone advise how you find out which network in the UK has blocked your an IMEI number. I gather any of the UK networks can block any IMEI and it's not unknown for errors to be made. But only the network that blocks the IMEI can Unblock it.
Thought I'd post this before waiting forever for some call centre dimwit to give me the runaround.
Thanks...
I really need some help here... I bought an imate phone edition from Bahrain(in the Middle East), where it worked fine with the Batelco SIM(Bahrain's network operator)... even when I inserted my airtel(bangalore) sim into it it was reading the SIM(i.e. SIM contacts, SIM tool kit...etc.), so I can't make or receive phone calls, cant send or receive SMS, pretty much cant do the basic functions of a phone... There is an X on the network symbol...
I did a couple of flashes... tried WM 2005,6.1,6.5...etc... now after a hard reset my phone doesn't auto execute anything from Extended ROM and I dont get any Phone signal... All I get is a message that the phone is 'off'... And there is no option to turn it on...
Even it doesn't access SIM contacts, I tried a network wizard and specified AirTel India.. Still doesn't work... Anyone know what I need to do here??? I have a feeling that something important isn't loading from the Extended ROM on startup...
I've unlocked my phone as well(thinking that was the issue) using itsme's tool. Still no effect...
I'm currently using this SIM card on another phone till I can resolve this, so I am sure that the SIM is completely fine....
Any help will be GREATLY appreciated...
just installed wp7 on my hd2 and after the start up my phone keeps searching for the network. have tried automatic network selection and tap to select but no luck. am using 2.15 radio. would appreciate any help.
goto your settings, scroll to cellular, then down to add apn, in the apn box type epc.tmobile.com and leave the rest blank.
this works with tmobile us
isn't that supposed to be only for the data connection? even without entering the apn the phone should be able to find the network for just making voice calls. so mine seems to be a different problem. the phone is simply unable to catch any signals.
from my understanding of the whole cell phone fiasco is the sim card has everything the phone needs to connect your providers tower and also tells your phone what services you have voice, data, etc etc, so it should setup voice automatically. i would try searching for the program (htc connection setup) they use to install the xml files it also sets your phone with the provider.
good luck.
trent6gol said:
from my understanding of the whole cell phone fiasco is the sim card has everything the phone needs to connect your providers tower and also tells your phone what services you have voice, data, etc etc, so it should setup voice automatically. i would try searching for the program (htc connection setup) they use to install the xml files it also sets your phone with the provider.
good luck.
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Only search at the internet for your apn settings, enter them and voila you can use your data connection, nothing more nothing less and done in a minute. HTC Connection Setup don't work well but you have to use it later if you want to change phone type to HD7 for the Marketplace ^^)
Silberpfeil3110 said:
Only search at the internet for your apn settings, enter them and voila you can use your data connection, nothing more nothing less and done in a minute. HTC Connection Setup don't work well but you have to use it later if you want to change phone type to HD7 for the Marketplace ^^)
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yeah we covered that part, the concern is that the phone is/was not connecting to the towers
Maybe check out other Radio ROM. 2.15 should work well, but uses more battery.
switched back to winmo 6.5 for a while and the same radio worked fine (caught the signal etc.). Just now again tried to flash wp7 using 2 different radios, that is 2.12 and 2.14. Have already tried 2.15 with my first attempt, but the problem just remains the same.... 'no network found'. any thoughts? have even tried putting in the apn too. no luck
u know its funny cus its the exact same with mine exactley the same ive tried everything and it picks up the signals but it wont let me connect to any network at all... the phone is just fine except that one problem.. plz any body help us with this stupid problem
flunklunk. said:
u know its funny cus its the exact same with mine exactley the same ive tried everything and it picks up the signals but it wont let me connect to any network at all... the phone is just fine except that one problem.. plz any body help us with this stupid problem
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i was havin the same damn problem, and i just flashed the 2.11.50.26 radio, and boom baby!! instant network connection. no more 3 beeps and disconnection for me now to check battery life and wifi (no 3g in trinidad yet, so u can't test that)
sim lock...???
After trying different radios by flashing and re-flashing, I've noticed something I should mention. My phone dialer shows a sim icon with a lock on the top left of the screen. Does that shed a new light on things?
sim lock ???
hey sameer... I have the very same issue with my HTC HD2. It is unlocked and I am facing the very same issue that you are when I revert to WinMo 6.5 everything works fine with the same radio. I've tried almost every radio now and have no luck. However, the funny thing is that I do see the sim with a lock when I go to my dialer. I suspect the OS is SIM Locked, however, when in WinMo 6.5 every Sim Card is recognized and works properly
Any luck with the issue yet??
Let me know of your thoughts... btw I'm on Ufone's Network.
It's the sim card!
Problem solved for me and hopefully for salmanjavaid too!
I learnt it the harder way though, by which I mean that I spent money to buy an HD7 and after inserting my sim in my brand new HD7..... no signal again! oooops! Only then it occurred to me to try some other sim cards. My network is also Ufone here in Pakistan. So first I tried a Prepaid Ufone sim (the one with white and orange colour and 64K printed on the back)...and Lo and Behold my hd7 gets the signal and network settings and data connection works fine too! Other operators' sim cards like Telenor, Warid and Mobilink worked fine too. But when I insert the sim card which is in my use back again....no signals again! This sim card is a different version, perhaps not 64K and plain black color on the back.
A call to my Personal Customer Service Executive assigned by Ufone sets the next course of action. He'll bring a replacement sim card for me, when I get back home.
My suggestion to salmanjavaid: try other sim cards first. If they work then get a replacement sim card.
Hope it solves your problem too.
id give this a shot. I'm on vacations in Pakistan and have my Sim Card from O2. I will give it a shot tonight Thanks for the suggestion.