Forgive the terminology if it's wrong, but I currently have 1.0 autonooter and pressing home ('n') lets me go from the regular nook color to my Zeam launcher. Is there something like this yet for the new 1.2 NookColor update? I see lots of threads talking about CM7 but nothing for this kind of setup. Has a new autonooter simply not been developed yet?
It's been 1 day since the 1.2 update came out. Have some patience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051235
So far there is a modified stock ROM with non-market APK installing possible and root access, but there's a lot of other work to be done still.
I'm not an android developer but I gleaned that much from simply reading in the 1.2 threads.
It took a couple of weeks for the autonooter to be really perfected, and before that there was nooter (which I used).
Honestly, sometimes a firmware update on any device hardly causes any kind of delay and just as many times a new root method has to be developed altogether so given that these things vary from device to device and from update to update I don't think I really deserved the "have some patience" comment. I think it was a fair question. Sometimes people get this sense of entitlement around here just because they happen to know more about things than some of us. Anyway, thanks for answering.
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Honestly, sometimes a firmware update on any device hardly causes any kind of delay and just as many times a new root method has to be developed altogether so given that these things vary from device to device and from update to update I don't think I really deserved the "have some patience" comment. I think it was a fair question. Sometimes people get this sense of entitlement around here just because they happen to know more about things than some of us. Anyway, thanks for answering.
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I'm also waiting for the new 1.2 to be (auto-) nootered, so was hoping for some sort of an update in terms of how the nooter-development is going for the new update. I agree that it is a fair question - sometimes jailbreak/root appears within hours of an update, sometimes it takes days but there is always some sort of info. Granted, our nook color is not an iPhone or a droid/evo and has nookie froyo, CM7 and even HC but I want to stick with rooted stock because it fits my needs.
Um...don't understand why you guys wouldn't just go over to the development section and check for yourselves for an update. Maybe that's part of the reason for the terseness in the reply.
I also think it was a little impatient when you couple the timing with not only the lack of an effort to see the myriad posts regarding the topic with the fact that this isn't just a "firmware upgrade", it's a whole new OS version (2.1->2.2).
To each his own though, just understand why your question could have engendered such a response.
In the meantime, there is no autonooter for 1.2 yet, although a mostly functional manual nooter has been developed. The market seems to be causing major issues and I would strongly advise waiting until the dust settles.
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In the meantime, there is no autonooter for 1.2 yet, although a mostly functional manual nooter has been developed. The market seems to be causing major issues and I would strongly advise waiting until the dust settles.
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Dev section is full of other threads on other subjects making the search more difficult. Thanks for the update.
For Nook Color you can run CM7 directly off an SD card withouth touching the internal emmc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Has anyone tried to do that for the Nook Touch? It's an obvious thing to try and I couldn't find any reference to it when I searched the Nook Touch forum, so I assume it does not work, but I thought I should ask...
First of all nothing is impossible. But you see Nook is avaible on market since 4-5 months i think. And there wasn't any breakdown bigger than rooting it ;( mayby working market can be counted in but it still is just a small thing. So in my opinion we just don't have a expert involved/eknowledged enough (xboxexpert maybe) to make a update for you nook (2.3.4 even?).
The other problem is it doesn't have sense yet. Mayby android 4.0 will bring us some easier ways? I am not expert unfortunetly.
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First of all nothing is impossible. But you see Nook is avaible on market since 4-5 months i think. And there wasn't any breakdown bigger than rooting it ;( mayby working market can be counted in but it still is just a small thing. So in my opinion we just don't have a expert involved/eknowledged enough (xboxexpert maybe) to make a update for you nook (2.3.4 even?).
The other problem is it doesn't have sense yet. Mayby android 4.0 will bring us some easier ways? I am not expert unfortunetly.
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I guess I didn't make myself clear. The key reason why it's so easy and convenient to rule alternative ROM off sdcard on a Nook Color is because of NC's bootloader; by design it boots from any ROM off an sdcard, and only when that fails/not present would it go to emmc.
So what I'm really asking is: Does the Nook Touch have the same/similar bootloader? Unfortunately I don't have one so I can't try it, which is why I ask the question here...
Thanks!
I'm not sure at all but I guess that it has a similar bootloader as some tools like TouchNooter or Noogie start from sdcard
Yes tried it and posted about it here several months ago. It boots but without specific driver support doesn't get too far (no graphics). I even tried using the nook kernel for grins on cm7 and it only got a hair farther in the process.
Bottom line it needs drivers in the cm7 codebase to work. It should be a straightforward effort, however, one that has little roi for me personally.
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Fair enough, I can see your point and thanks for the info.
Well, that is the situation now. We have some attention on the NookTouch at the moment. If we can get CM7 on there we've future proofed it a little. Just think of those other electronic devices from the past to compare with.
Is there going to come a point where a rooted NookTouch won't be able to run newer Android stuff? That's my only worry. It would be handy to be in line with other CM7 users. Sometimes something doesn't work. Not a major disappointment, but a bit of a bummer.
Couldn't find your post with the info you mention:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=93655130 ,unless it's buried in a reply somewhere?
I have no idea how the CM7 people get drivers for devices, whether they pull them out of stock ROMs or what I don't know... will have to search.
I don't get it, what do you expect to gain from CM7 on a Nook Touch?
This device has nothing but wifi and a fundamentally slow eInk display,.. there's no GSM, 3G, Bluetooth, Audio, GPS or Camera
While CM7 and other roms can make things run smoother on normal devices with an LCD-type screen, this won't help the Nook Touch with it's eInk screen at all.
All those fancy themes, with transparency and cool animations will never ever work properly on this eInk display, it cannot be solved trough clever programming.
Are there things in NST with its 2.1 that doesn't work? What does 2.3 offer that is of any use to the NST? The only thing I can think of would be the numeric screen lock..
The few developers that are showing interest in the NST are much better off putting their skills into writing tools and apps specialized for the NST and its eInk.
Hell, for starters, give me a web browser that actually supports pagination instead of scrolling
The only reason I'd be interested in upgrading the OS to 2.2 + would be the ability to use apps like apptosd. No matter how I tried I've been unable to get linktosd to work for the Nook.
Good screen locking is a must for people who may have unwanted people fidgeting on your ereader, and I do agree regarding the browser too. And maybe a good email program that makes the email fit on its width (k9 is the best so far, but usually emails stretches sideways...
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I don't get it, what do you expect to gain from CM7 on a Nook Touch?
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Among other things: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
cm7 means for me future proofing, easier to develop new things because we're all on the same page.
I think if it doesn't happen in 5 years time the nook'll be on the shelf obselete because no new software is made for 2.1 devices anymore.
When i get back from holiday i'll try to duplicate what someone did before and host an image of cm7 that can be written to sd with logging enabled to show what drivers are needed. It's a good point that devs who'd normally work on cm could be doing better things like partial screen updates.
If more android eink devices come out there will be more wieght to the cause. Personally what i really want is an eink android phone...
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cm7 means for me future proofing, easier to develop new things because we're all on the same page.
I think if it doesn't happen in 5 years time the nook'll be on the shelf obselete because no new software is made for 2.1 devices anymore.
When i get back from holiday i'll try to duplicate what someone did before and host an image of cm7 that can be written to sd with logging enabled to show what drivers are needed. It's a good point that devs who'd normally work on cm could be doing better things like partial screen updates.
If more android eink devices come out there will be more wieght to the cause. Personally what i really want is an eink android phone...
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I plan on replacing my NST long before 5 years have passed. For one, the battery will be dead by then
There's a new Pearl eInk player on the block, Sony PRS-T1, so yes, there are more and there will be more Android eInks
don't get me wrong, if an android phone with eink comes out i'll drop the nook in a flash. But even so, having cm7 is useful. I don't like throwing things away. Also, theres the resell value. it makes a difference when selling it down the line. I'd rather have something useful even if it's not me personally benfitting from it.
I don't like that whole, i'll buy something new again, i enjoy the upgrade cycle trap.
I enjoy getting new toys but i also like things that last, and the latter makes more sense.
I haven't done much dev before but i think i'll give a go with this, checking out that kernel hacking thread and looking for ways to log the boot. If nothing else it's good fun
Personally, I do not think CM7 would be the best for Nook. I think this rom is too much "phone related" which would result it big battery consumption. Beside the kernel/rom update, could you name 3 things from CM7 missing on nook STR?
Well built in tablet ease-of-case?
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Personally, I do not think CM7 would be the best for Nook. I think this rom is too much "phone related" which would result it big battery consumption. Beside the kernel/rom update, could you name 3 things from CM7 missing on nook STR?
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True, a CM7 port would need customising to remove the phone stuff. Personally I removed the phone and dialler apks from my rooted Nook. They run on a rooted Nook just the same as a CM7 port would.
1) Any apk that needs a newer version of android. I did find something the other day like this but I can't remember what it was.
2) Being on the same page as other CM7 mods; you can port ideas more easily, whereas the knowledge for NookTouch is a very small community
3) I think it could become a dominent thing. Less confusions with NookColor and the B&N software. More resources for help.
4) The B&N software could cause unforeseen problems down the road with new software of the future. Who knows, there could be a new killer app that clashes with the B&N software and B&N do nothing to fix it, for example.
^ Note that few of the reasons are about what functionality currently available. I've seen it plenty of times; buy new tech, tech is perfectly fine, phone becomes obselete because of the software and no documentation, have to buy a new device even though there's nothing wrong phyically with the old one (software hassle only). For all we know, a new standard for ebooks could come out next year, B&N choose not to support it and the only software around to read it is only available for Froyo. Get me?
You have a point. I'm lucky enough to blow money on the upgrade cycle, why do I care about other people after it gets sent recycling to Africa? I don't know, it seems like a simple bit of work. I agree that effort shouldn't be redirected away from other more important efforts.
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+5) We could move the `USB Mode` notifier more easily so the Nook is still usable while charging.
+6) We can more easily modify WiFi ability to connect to peer-to-peer networks rather than just access points. This means no need to carry a MiFi portable access point in order to use TetherGPS. With stock Nook rom the Nook only sees accesspoints.
I think lets add:
1) Android 4.0 supports both tabs and phones, and your Nook it honestly more like a tablet that a phone, and really many, many, MANY apps will be compatible only with 4.0 (IMO only)
2) We need somebody to write that system right?
I would go more for a good customization ROM oriented to an eInk Android device... The latest apps for tablets will be all LCD oriented, and it would be much more useful a custom android that removes all animations, allows correct paging and lateral buttons to work propperly, etc...
Looking forward to an ICS port on NST!
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I think lets add:
1) Android 4.0 supports both tabs and phones, and your Nook it honestly more like a tablet that a phone, and really many, many, MANY apps will be compatible only with 4.0 (IMO only)
2) We need somebody to write that system right?
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I'm pretty sure the Nook doesn't have enough resources/power to run 4.0, and probably not even 3. Then again, I'm new to android and tablets and rooting, so I might be wrong.
I have a NC that I rooted about a year ago. It has 1.01 on it. I have not done much with it (except install some game apps for my son and use it as a book reader.) Is there any point in updating it to 1.3? It seems I would have to "unroot" it to install the update and then re root it.
My question is, is it worth my time and effort?
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I forget all of the changes (you might be able to find them somewhere), but 1.2 I think just added mostly stability stuff and better support for magazines maybe? The big thing in 1.3 was apps from the B&N marketplace -- not such a big deal if you're rooted. It's nice to be on the latest and greatest, but realistically if you're happy you could stay on the version you're at.
With 1.4 due out shortly, you might want to revisit this question after it is out and you can see if you really want all of the changes since 1.01.....
I'm pretty sure the big updates were the update to a froyo base of Android and the addition of flash and the BN Appstore.
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I read that the NT wouldn't boot off of SD unless it was signed and I am wondering if 1.4 is going to insert this nastiness in the NC. It would effectively disable everyone using CM7 off of SD.
Maybe I will leave well enough alone.
Are there any mods or apps that people feel are more important then others? I have read about the Over clocking. Is it worth it?
Supergroomer
I just received a NEW NC from B&N as a replacement for my certified pre-owned unit that was damaged upon arrival. They upgraded me to a new one which was very nice of them indeed. They told me it would already have v1.4.2 on it. I just checked it out and this one has v1.3 on it. Is there a reason that I would want to keep 1.3 on it and block all future OTAs? Or does it not matter and should I just let it upgrade itself?
P.S. - I'm going to be running CM7 from an SD card.
Thanks folks.
Hi I literally received my Nook Color 1.3.0 on the mail today. This afternoon I rooted mine watching this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1cBDpNQic which made the process super easy.
I would recommand keeping 1.3.0 for root because I found the whole process to be quite easy although I don't know if new updates necessarily make it any harder. I mean after all if you are gonna go Cyanogemod why bother with the Nook updates.
I installed and tried two of the unoffical CM9 all day. Loved the interface, but after constant wifi issues and such I decided CM9 is just not ready yet for me. Been playing with CM7 Mirage Kang all night. Other than it being super fugly compared to CM9 things are working great so far.
Thanks to all Nook Color CM9 Developers for their hard work by the way. Looking forward to the Offical Nightly Builds whenever that may be.
I just bought a new Nook Color last week from Staples. It still only has 1.2 on it.
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If you are going to run CM exclusively, why keep B&N firmware on eMMC? You'll gain a lot of flexibility loading CM on there instead.
If you are going to bother with B&N firmware (I do), then 1.4.x is a significant change. I think it's better than older versions, but a lot of folks liked the previous functionality. A big question is what you intend to do with it. For some magazine subscriptions, you must be running 1.4.x.
And of course, the bloody thing will update itself at some point if you don't block OTA updates.
Wife has a nook color, stock unrooted wanting to view email/ webrowsing more effectively than what she can now. I am looking at rooting the device and wondering what opinions are out there. Should I wait until ICS roms are more stable or should I jump in with something out there now? If I should go now what do you recommend?
Well, if you are asking should you wait for ICS to be further developed before installing a custom ROM on the device, the answer is'a no, from me.
CM9 is plenrty far along to my mind and getting better every day. But if you don't intend to keep up with the updates with any regularity, then try CM7 which is Gingerbread.
It's great and stable. And most of what she learns about operating it will still apply whenever you decide to upgrade to ICS.
ICS s really great at this point, but flash still doesn't work and is probably a little ways away. That means no internet videos of any quality, at the minimum. If she wants a better browsing experience, stick with CM7 for a while.
I personally had nothing but a pleasant experience using the Mirage 7.2 Kang. MiRaGe is pretty good about support as well, although only if you flash the ROM internally (to emmc). Which, unless you are planning to dual-or-more boot, there is no reason to install by sdcard. Go ahead and flash to emmc. Supposedly you void your warranty by doing that, but there are a million threads about going back to B&N stock. It's really easy.
So flash whatever looks good. You can always try something else later. The first one is hard. Everyone after that is easy as it gets. Oh, and root access is now a user-defined option. You don't have to be rooted while running Cyanogen.
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Wife has a nook color, stock unrooted wanting to view email/ webrowsing more effectively than what she can now. I am looking at rooting the device and wondering what opinions are out there. Should I wait until ICS roms are more stable or should I jump in with something out there now? If I should go now what do you recommend?
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If that's all she wants, and she's otherwise happy with the device running B&N firmware, you should consider just rooting it. Everything will work as it does now, including the nice B&N features (read-to-me, free in-store reading, automatic subscription updates, etc.), but you can add as much or as little additional functionality as you want. If she subscribes to any B&N periodicals or reads enhanced ebooks from B&N, this may be important.
If you run CM or any alternate firmware, be aware that the B&N Android app does not have the same full functionality of the B&N firmware. Some books and periodicals can, at least today, only be read using native B&N firmware. Hopefully, they'll update the app soon to address this.