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SG2 and Hardware Acceleration

There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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TheAggression said:
There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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I think its just the browser that is using hwa right now, if its using hwa in UI on ICS it would really make a difference. Maybe not in the time it takes for stuff to happen but overall smoothness, wich imo is not there yet
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Hmm....that's slightly disappointing. I was hoping this phone would be just as smooth out the box based on what everyone is saying about its speed.....well thank God for ICS, cuz the stuttery UI is the androids OS main Achilles heel....we'll see what happens
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Well - it isn't really the "stuttering" people hate about android. Others think it isn't polished like IOS. Not to mention since it's so new - there isn't a lot of "good" apps for it.
With ICS - it'll take use of the graphic processor for the UI so that the primary dual core processor can focus on the tasks. In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/

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In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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You forgot HW accelerated video playback and internet browser ;-) Also, you can always download and use stock Gingerbread launcher, which uses HW acceleration too, AFAIK.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).

Gingerbread offers HWA, browser, video processing, touchwiz 4.0 to name a few.
However, ICS is 'supposed' to take HWA one step further and fully optimize our high specs - mainly our GPU.
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tolis626 said:
Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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TheAggression said:
Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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akira02rex said:
Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.

Google devs simply didn't deem it necessary, also because not all of the android devices had a decent gpu at the beginning, but obviously all of them had a cpu. They told devs not to do garbage collection regarding this issue, which is imho a very weak strategy. Good that they changed their mind with ICS at least: better late than never, but ofc never late would be better

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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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akira02rex said:
Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Browser also hwa?
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Nope.
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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King Shady said:
Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Not ! Touchwiz is crap sense is awesome and it doesn't lag either sense 3.5 SON
MyTouch HD (Black)
Kernel demonspeed v7
lagfree 1516Ghz - 768Mhz
Edited Build Prop
Beats Audio
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Dark Side Sense 3.3 !

I own both HTC Sensation and Galaxy S2, I put Android Revolution ROM on the sensation and its smooth and fast, even when I downclock it to 800mhz.
I think by default Hardware Acceleration is not enabled for sense 3.0, the rom fixed that and to be fair.. I really like the sense interface and in terms of software, HTC is really ahead and offers better execution than Samsung.
Speed wise, the galaxy s2 is much much faster even when down clocked to 800mhz, I'm on VillianROM 3.0 and everyhing is flying.... I never liked the stock browser, my browser choice is Dolphin Browser MINI cos its fast and no lag and it can download from multiupload sites

I much prefer Sense over TW, it's a very polished ui, while instead TW is a complete mess: the colors are put together randomly and the overall feeling is that it's much less refined and elegant. TW looks like something designed for kids, while instead Sense has more of a business look, which i like much better. What actually stopped me from getting the Sensation is the fact that it actually performs much worse compared to the GS2, and lacks internal memory. I also got used to AMOLED screens so now i don't wanna go back to LCD because it feels like downgrading. But hey, this is kinda ot

Touchwiz 4.0 is awesome.
All videos of sense ive seen are laggy crap.
TW4 adds some nice features, simple to use and is hardware accellerated - just what i want from a launcher.
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Want your note faster !

Download spare parts from the market and set window and transition animations to fast.
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It works (at least for my eyes). Even the slight lag I'd experienced seems to be gone, and my Gnote feels snappier than before. Could be subjective but I'm happy with it.
Thanks for the tip.
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But isn't it fastEST with 'no animations' set?

rockky said:
But isn't it fastEST with 'no animations' set?
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Yes... it is.

I have tried both settings and don't see significant difference.
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Which Spare Parts? There's more than one. Thanks

Spare Parts Plus (DroidGram)
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didn't work for me either, in fact it got slower on go launcher ex. using custom animation speed with GL EX

robdee102 said:
Download spare parts from the market and set window and transition animations to fast.
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Many thanks mate.
Made a noticeable bump in speed for me. Excellent!

Thanks for the app, sometimes I just felt it's a shame that you have to download a third party app to boost up the phone or do anything normally which the every smartphones must have when it born. This is why everyone is rooting as stock rom sucks?

Thanks for the find robdee102.
Are there any other settings we can change to increase the speed of the phone?

The device doesnt get any faster, its deception. The length of the animated transition equals about the time needed for the application to load. Turning off the animation or setting it to happen faster only results in the animation being finished before the app's interface is fully loaded and the user looking at a blank black or white screen for a split second... Because the zoom or swipe effect happens faster one gets the feeling the device actually being faster; which in reality it isn't.
Thanks for listening. My 2¢.
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Good explanation, i like the look of it with faster animations. And yeah gives the impression of a quicker device. Better than slowwwww...
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robdee102 said:
Good explanation, i like the look of it with faster animations. And yeah gives the impression of a quicker device. Better than slowwwww...
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Yeah, there's DEFINATELY a difference, it feels more responsive, going through menus, etc...

I'm not denying it feels quicker. On the contrary. But because everyone around you suddenly walks slow doesnt make you walk any quicker ;-)
It was very noticeable on older devices with only 500ish MHz and 192MB of RAM, like the original G1/Dream/Sapphire and the likes. Those guys needed the extra time to launch an app and load the UI. Now with 1Gig, dedicated GPU and dualcore CPUs we are talking milliseconds. It really doesnt matter anymore...
A shame not all functions of Spareparts are supported though...
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Tab 2 P5100 very slow

I buyed a 5100 tab 2.
It is very slow and sometimes there is lag.
Is it normal?

steveone77 said:
I buyed a 5100 tab 2.
It is very slow and sometimes there is lag.
Is it normal?
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No, you may have gremlins living in your device. They feed off the cpu, causing lag. I recommend sacrificing a virgin to them.
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Mine was fast out of box, then I started installing stuff and it got slow. I disabled system apps I don't use, and that sped it up some. (go into Settings>Apps>All and click any you don't currently use and un-install the updates and disable them. You can always re-enable them later.) Also I uninstalled apps like Facebook which always run (just create a short-cut in the web browser).
Then I rooted and installed CM9 and it's all zip-a-de-doo-da.

Mine was slightly laggy, im on cm9 with metallikernel and it is smooth now
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I think it should because of the GPU & CPU speed of galaxy tab. As we know p5100 using an powervr GPU. NVIDIA Tegra should be better than powervr. But if you want to increase the speed of your tab try to use custom ROM and OC. Or you can sell your tab and buy a new lower price tab like Transformer, Motorola Xoom, or Sony S tablet which powered by Tegra GPU that could run the graphics smoothly :fingers-crossed:
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Arrizqi said:
I think it should because of the GPU & CPU speed of galaxy tab. As we know p5100 using an powervr GPU. NVIDIA Tegra should be better than powervr. But if you want to increase the speed of your tab try to use custom ROM and OC. Or you can sell your tab and buy a new lower price tab like Transformer, Motorola Xoom, or Sony S tablet which powered by Tegra GPU that could run the graphics smoothly :fingers-crossed:
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I think this is something interesting:
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/96115-Why-use-powerVR-instead-of-Tegra
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i think it's because the touchwiz, if you install a custom ROM like CM9 or 10, i guess it would work really smooth

I have the Tab 10.1 and Tab 10.1 2. Both are stock rooted but the Tab 1 is much smoother. The Tab 1 is on 4.0.4 and Tab 2 is on 4.0.3. Hopefully it gets better with an update.
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Tab 2 have good custom rom support at XDA . but claims by many people very slow compare to other device due to TW .
jelly bean still lag and slow?
no have device ,just do some survey.

Try this. It saved my day
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950052

Slow tabs menu

So when I'm in the stock browser (Poland Jelly Bean release) and click the tabs icons it always takes 1-2 secs to respond and actually show all open tabs.. Anyone else noticing this?
Also I saw a video if the Note II and it was buttery smooth. I know the Note II has a faster clocked processor but that shouldn't really matter in such a simple process right?
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fenjen said:
So when I'm in the stock browser and click the tabs icons it always takes 1-2 secs to respond. Anyone else noticing this?
Also I saw a video if the Note II and it was buttery smooth. I know the Note II has a faster clocked processor but that shouldn't really matter in such a simple process right?
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Buttery smooth here on lh1 ICS, had 7 tabs open too.

Skander1998 said:
Buttery smooth here on lh1 ICS, had 7 tabs open too.
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Hmm strange.. As far as I'm concerned I've always had this issue.

It's always been slow for me too, puts me off using the stock browser
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Lag on the galaxy note 10.1 2014

Hi just went to bestbuy to test the overall performance on this tablet. Sad to say that when i tested the exynos variant, I did encounter lag when I was scrolling the home screen. What I mean is that it doesn't feel smooth. Also pulling out flipboard caused lag. Trying to run a couple of applications like s note. It's not major lag that will take away the whole experience. Just lag that you'll notice from time to time even if it's minor. What's your opinion on this and how do you feel about the exynos? Is it still going to be worth it sacrificing a bit of performance for cheaper price and getting it earlier. Should I wait for the snapdragon variant since it might be faster. But it's also going to be more expensive and I won't be needing LTE. I had really high hopes of this tablet too.
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I wonder if it lags even with a third party launcher like Nova Prime or Next?
I hear touch wiz bloat is very heavy indeed.
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Too many variables. How much other stuff was running in the background? Did you do all this testing after a fresh reboot? Who knows what the people before you were doing to it. And every Samsung experience running full blast does take it's toll, all those widgets updating all programs running etc. I'm just saying it's not all doom and gloom... Just tweak it.

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Too many variables. How much other stuff was running in the background? Did you do all this testing after a fresh reboot? Who knows what the people before you were doing to it. And every Samsung experience running full blast does take it's toll, all those widgets updating all programs running etc. I'm just saying it's not all doom and gloom... Just tweak it.
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With Nova Launcher, it flies.

icebergisonfire said:
With Nova Launcher, it flies.
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Even in the my magazine app? I hate the stock tw launcher, I wonder how much resources it takes up

I think early technical analysis showed that the exnyos governor was not exactly optimized. I'm sure this thing will fly with the proper rom. I rommed my note 2 and last year's 10.1 when I felt lag was hindering the experience and both were super fluid after modification. Samsung uses good parts. Tw just tends to be bloated.
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I went to BestBuy and put ios7 on it with ilauncher it was so smooth. Alsoi seem very minor lag on this device. I played why it for 30minutes and it was flying. I saw lag at first but then realized over 20 apps were in the background. Closed them all, cleared ram and it was buttery smooth. The Tech at best buy were going crazy over this thing saying it is the best tablet they have seen thus far.
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OmarCarter said:
I went to BestBuy and put ios7 on it with ilauncher it was so smooth. Alsoi seem very minor lag on this device. I played why it for 30minutes and it was flying. I saw lag at first but then realized over 20 apps were in the background. Closed them all, cleared ram and it was buttery smooth. The Tech at best buy were going crazy over this thing saying it is the best tablet they have seen thus far.
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As well they should. I've always wanted a tablet but I would go into Best Buy and play around with them and just walk away saying 'nope' The specs were getting closer to what I wanted but with this, Samsung hit a home run. Pricey but you get what you pay for. :good:

icebergisonfire said:
As well they should. I've always wanted a tablet but I would go into Best Buy and play around with them and just walk away saying 'nope' The specs were getting closer to what I wanted but with this, Samsung hit a home run. Pricey but you get what you pay for. :good:
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Totally agree on that. All android tablet has come so close. When I saw the 1st gen of the note 10.1 I thought it was the one for me. But with the screen resolution, it was a big let down for me. This year this is the one. Only thing that's stopping me now is the performance.
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I may not be as tech savvy as many of you, but I just got this tablet and the performance is amazing. I have 12 active apps running and I don't notice any lag navigating the menus. I've been working in dropsync and synced a whole bunch of files while messing around with it and still noticed no lag whatsoever. I did notice that it gets a bit warm on the back though.

OmarCarter said:
The Tech at best buy were going crazy over this thing saying it is the best tablet they have seen thus far.
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They probably would say that with any new device. I was at bestbuy the other day helping my sister buy a tablet and a couple of employees saw my Nvidia Shield (I was carrying it in its case) and were amazed by the device

Lol no that wasn't it, he wasn't trying to sell me anything. He was trying to find it how much I'm selling my old one for his friend.
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Sad to say I'm running into lag and random reboots. So far it has been happening while scrolling through play store. It will freeze then reboot.
I need me some root.
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Han Solo 1 said:
Sad to say I'm running into lag and random reboots. So far it has been happening while scrolling through play store. It will freeze then reboot.
I need me some root.
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Have you took the update yet? Mine doesn't have those issues
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I noticed some lag in windows transistions. So what I've done is turn on developer options and changed transition animation scale from 1x to off. Feels much faster. For example, instead of xda kind of sputtering to life when initiated, it just pops up immediately.
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richB7 said:
I noticed some lag in windows transistions. So what I've done is turn on developer options and changed transition animation scale from 1x to off. Feels much faster. For example, instead of xda kind of sputtering to life when initiated, it just pops up immediately.
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Did you make this modification on the new Note 2014....? I ask because I can not find that setting, even after doing a search....?
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Rickgsx said:
Did you make this modification on the new Note 2014....? I ask because I can not find that setting, even after doing a search....?
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got to settings->general->about device tap "build number" 7 times to unlock dev settings.

Thank you... I forgot that I had to do that for the dev setting
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Yeah as mad said
You have to enable developer
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smac7 said:
Have you took the update yet? Mine doesn't have those issues
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Yes, I did take the update. I'm going to do a factory reset and see if that works.