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What do you think?

Anybody got a view on this phone, mine arrives on Monday and just wondered what any current owners think.
also... Woohoo first post in the Tattoo forum!

james194zt said:
Anybody got a view on this phone, mine arrives on Monday and just wondered what any current owners think.
also... Woohoo first post in the Tattoo forum!
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Not an owner but I'm not too fond of all the buttons it has..... The layout mostly.... But overall I think that this is a great entry-level smartphone to buy. Especially since it runs android. Low Cost, powerfull, and it will appeal to a wide variety of people.
Congrats on the purhase.

i want one too~
I have been using my magic about half a year now...
i love the phone, but the wifi problem that it has annoys me too much~
i think is about time that i switch to the new tatoo..
by the way.. where did you get the phone and how much was it?

I have had a Magic now for about 4 months, has been a great phone especially love the ability to hack it to bits! Just want Rosie and the Tattoo looks like a great phone with it installed natively.
I am looking forward to the Tattoo just a bit worried about the QVGA screen and its support of current applications, other than that it is the perfect Android phone. Especially love the 3.5mm jack on it for my car!
Vodafone UK have it available now, I have had to wait a week for it to appear on Vodafones Business user tarriffs but our account manager confirmed it on Friday and shipped us a couple out.

I have the tattoo and i gotta say i like it. I was worried about the small screen and lack of apps but the screen is very responsive and the phone is running great atm, no freezing ect. There's been about 30-40 new apps added to the store since i got it so i guess more will follow. All in all im happy with it

adwin said:
I have the tattoo and i gotta say i like it. I was worried about the small screen and lack of apps but the screen is very responsive and the phone is running great atm, no freezing ect. There's been about 30-40 new apps added to the store since i got it so i guess more will follow. All in all im happy with it
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I've seen a few videos and the screen looks really responsive. Almost more responsive than my TD2. With that said Resistive screens have come a long way since the TD2. And the TD2 is really resistive. I'd love to compare the 2 screens.
With Andoid 2.0 aren't all apps supposed to be able to support all resolutions?

No real complaints yet
I have had mine for 3 days now and so far not had any real issues. Going from a LONG TIME as a Windows PDA user to a new OS & way of doing things is always going to be interesting, but for the most part very intuitive and good fun!!
So far there are a few things I have found to be a bit annoying;
- I cannot seem to access files / folders directly on the SD Card or the phone itself. The media player picks up any music put on the card automatically as does the picture album app, but if I want to save text files / PDF's etc. and view later that isn't much help.
- The on-screen keyboard isn't as good as some I have used, especially for those of us that have fat fingers. turning it sideways brings up a bigger keyboard in landscape mode but I have had to revert to using an old stylus on the screen if I am writing anything particularly long.
- There seems to be no Task Manager program built in, though the TasKiller app is fantastic and does a good job, that should have been something that was built in. It would also be nice to be able to say which programs are allowed to run at start-up and so on.
All in all a very good phone, my iPhone loving friends have been very impressed, especially when I told them how cheep it is!! I know the Android OS is still very young compared to some of its rivals, but there are a few important things that it seems to be missing and I am loosing that functionality.
Hope this helps
Rob

I got one. It's really nice. The only problem is the market.
Since market 1.6 they created flaggs for the screensize (or it refers to it anyway, I think they're id'ing by phone, not screen). Unless you compile your app with the latest sdk and added the small screen flagg the app will NOT be visible in the market for tattoo's.
You'll have to get those apps in another way.
Imo very bad advertisement for the android os and a really big precedent but what can you do.

Had my Tattoo for a week now. I have only a couple of issues.
1. No Auto focus, so apps like bar code scanner do not work (though the 2d codes work?)
2. Not as many apps on the store due to 1.6 OS and QVGA screen
The Tattoo is brilliant compared to my WM based HTC Diamond.

My Tattoo is 5 days old now.
In short .. I love it. I love how fast the Android is.
But I furious to know that my Tattoo is not came with Market apps. I think I have to re-flash the ROM with another Tattoo ROM.

Pretty good but.....
james194zt said:
Anybody got a view on this phone, mine arrives on Monday and just wondered what any current owners think.
also... Woohoo first post in the Tattoo forum!
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I got my girlfriend one on Orange (I Have a Hero).
1. Most noticable difference is screen quality. Nothing to do with it being resistive, its just smaller with a lower resolution.
2. There is something strange going on with the Market. There are loads of apps missing that should be there. Not sure if this is a Donut, Orange, Google problem. I have heard that there have been similar issues with other new devices on release. Is it a screen size issue? That would suck.
3. Orange (cos they're daft) have removed the Gmail app (anybody got an .apk that'll work on the tattoo) from they're version! Hard to believe I know, incredibly there is no way to sync your Gmail account or read your Gmail (ok I know you can use HTCs widget but I find the exchange support for Gmail to be a bit flaky). Proper google account sync is a key feature of an android device and Orange have removed it!
Anyway rant over. GF seems happy with it but she deffo wants access to the same apps as I have on the Hero.

Had my Tattoo now for a few days and i love it... Much more smooth running and quicker then the Diamond or the Touch HD (blackstone)...
Good value for the pricetag.....

hp1 said:
2. There is something strange going on with the Market. There are loads of apps missing that should be there. Not sure if this is a Donut, Orange, Google problem. I have heard that there have been similar issues with other new devices on release. Is it a screen size issue? That would suck.
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Is the screen issue. Tattoo came with 240x320 screen resolutions while almost all the application in the market was set to higher resolutions. Just wait, I think they will update it to support lower android resolutions like Tattoo.

IN regards to the email, I just set up new IMAP account (not exchange) for my gmail, and it works perfectly,

hp1 said:
3. Orange (cos they're daft) have removed the Gmail app (anybody got an .apk that'll work on the tattoo) from they're version! Hard to believe I know, incredibly there is no way to sync your Gmail account or read your Gmail (ok I know you can use HTCs widget but I find the exchange support for Gmail to be a bit flaky). Proper google account sync is a key feature of an android device and Orange have removed it!
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I have setup IMAP on my gf's Tattoo and it works ok but still Orange are complete muppets for removing the Google Mail app (and Google talk and Youtube!).

First time Hero post

This is my first post, so take it easy on me.
I've just received my HTC Hero through the post today. I took out an ultra cheap contract with t-mobile here in the uk. I previously owned an iPhone 3g, and even though the iPhone looks cooler the Hero is a much better phone.
I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Sense UI and stick on the stock version of Android 'donut 1.6' (is that the latest version) in an effort improve the speed.

You shouldn't need to get rid of SenseUI to speed things up - My Hero is running on Modaco ROM and is plenty fast enough!
Have you updated to the 2.73 release from T-Mobile?
This does speed things up a bit from the stock ROM that comes with the phone!
If you want it faster than that - I suggest you Root and put Modaco's latest Rom on your Hero and the you'll have Apps2SD (which speeds things up also)
I find that mine is fast enough for everyday use! I have approx 60 apps installed too.

Hi,
The Hero doesn't run on Android 1.6 it's on 1.5. I agree with the earlier poster if you update to 2.73, it should be quick enough. However if you really want to go to Android, just go to settings, applications, manage applications. Find HTC Sense and clear the the default. Now when you press the home key, you'll get a choice between Sense and Home (android 1.5). Bear in mind if you choose Home, you won't be able to use HTC widgets.
btw it does remember what icons you have etc so i currently have an android set up that I play with occasionally but tend to use Sense UI on a daily basis.
M

Thanks for your replies. I've been using the Hero for a few days now, and i'm quite impressed. However I would like the latest ROM version as i'm currently running build number 1.76.110.6 software version 1.0
I try to update to the latest ROM (2.73.405.5) through HTCs website but when I try and download the file, I get an error message saying 'not suitable for your phone' I'm definitely selecting the right fw and phone so I have no idea what is going on.
Is there anyway I can manually upgrade without using HTCs software? Could it be down to the fact im on T-mobile in the UK? Has anybody else had this problem?

You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622

Branwen said:
You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
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oh, thanks for the link. I've downloaded the update. Is there anything 'special' i need to do other than follow the on screen instructions? This will be my first ever Hero update and i'm scared of bricking my phone. Will this void warranty?

I forgot to ask in the post above.
Will this update for t-mobile still let me keep the Sense UI?

Yes, but it will wipe the phone so get ready for all your contacts to disappear.

Roger HTC Magic Sense UI!!

Ok, so I've just updated my Rogers HTC Magic to with Rogers new update:
HTC_Magic_Update_File1
HTC_Magic_Update_File2
I'd just like to let everyone know that it's absolutely beautifu and so fastl!!!
Runs faster than any hero based ROM on XDA or on any other forum (no offence devs but thanks for your efforts).
My new radio and hboot are as follows:
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Not quite sure what this means as far as rooting the phone and any development goes, but in general I am quite happy with this update. I will be posting some screen shots in a short time as I have just done the update and need to get everything sorted out. If you have any questions feel free to ask
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

I have done the update as well and am VERY happy with the new UI (Sence) on my Magic.....Reminds me a bit of my old HTC Touch Diamond....just better cuz it NOT Windows

You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.

So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?

zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Correct. But as for paid apps I'm unsure of the results as I didn't have any to begin with. As far as root goes, I'm trying to figure out a way to root the phone as the current methods are out dated for this update. I still have all my data on the sdcard, pictures, videos etc.. so you should be able to keep all of your paid apps. It's basically a matter of time before someone finds a way to root our phones but I'm sure it won't be long.
The new Sense UI is the fastest I have ever seen (and I've tried all of them). There is some issue with sending emails, as I haven't been able to send an email as of yet. I will be calling Rogers today to get this issue sorted out.
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

virtualahmad said:
You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.
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I'd wait for one of the guys here to work their magic (pun intended) before upgrading. As gorgeous as SenseUI is, it's too hard to part with all those apps and back up features!

For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?

Chynkinese said:
For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?
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I'ved used the cursorsense and it isn't bad at all. Still nothing compares to how fast this Sense UI runs from Rogers. There is zero lag, and when I say that I mean it. For example when running the Sense stock Music App there is always lag, it doesn't matter who's ROM your using but with this update the Sense Music App works to the millisecond. There is no lag at all on this update so basically you can't compare it to anyone's ROM. All of those ROM's were ported as opposed to this one being built specifically for the Magic from the ground up. But like I said in an earlier post, I am still having problems being able to send emails through the stock app using my Hotmail account. I called Rogers today and they told me that they will fix this problem. I told them that if it's not fixed within the next 2 weeks (which is a reasonable time to wait) that I would be able to get a free upgrade on the next phone of my choice, which they had agreed to. If you haven't updated your ROM and your using a Rogers Magic/Dream I would highly recommend it. They get a 8.5/10 as far as the update goes. I would give them a 10 if my emails weren't giving me a problem and if it was upgraded to version 2.0+ but I guess we can't have it all . Oh and by the way it seems as tho the RAM has somehow been decreased? It was 196 prior to the update and now it's stitting at 165! If anyone knows why this happened please feel free to let us know.
HTC Magic (32A)
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

I am downloading it... the new ROM
Thank you, FoTwoZero, Chynkinese, & zacaszius.. your comments and information would be help for those who are doing this updating with HTC magic.
I am downloading this new ROM at this moment...and hesitate to update my rom. cuz I am also concerning about losing all my data and the ROM I am using... it's a CM 4.2.13. and I am very happy with it so far, even the camera function is kind of cooking.
The Hboot is 1.33.2010
Radio: 3.22.23.18

Rooting
Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?

orangealtezza said:
Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?
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No not yet.

I havent had any issues scince the update....dint have any before either
Compared to the 1.5 Scene is way better IMO runs quicker, smother and has a bunch more "goodies" to make it the best phone i've ever owned.

FoTwoZero said:
No not yet.
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Rats.. I'm so loving the Wifi Tether application... and now they've disabled my internet until I can update it.

new rogers/HTC ROM feedback
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.

virtualahmad said:
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.
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I had the same problem when I installed the first file it kept on rebootin
installed the second one it was cool,
and i dint have any prob about the roaming stuff and about the weather widget, after u mentioned it here i tried to delete the second city ottawa and it worked,,
no voice search
but overall I like this ROM so much, and hope to get the 2.1 update soon

zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Remember, contacts are synced to Google, so you don't loose those. This includes contact photos if you're like me and want them on each and every contact. Also, paid apps are remembered by the Android Market, so if you wipe your phone, you can quickly and easily reinstall your paid apps, without having to pay for them again.
As far as camera photos and music; that's on your SD card. Just copy it all to your PC before flashing the update.
Text messages.... http://www . androlib . com/android.application.com-riteshsahu-smsbackuprestore-zCEB.aspx <-- That program worked well for me. Should run w/out root access. Only downside is that it doesn't do MMS messages.
Things like savegames and other application data (bookmarks, preferences)..... Yeah, those are going to be lost, unfortunately. :\
HTH,
Chris

I have the update from Rogers but I noticed that the Auto Clock Update is not accurate at all. While I drove from Richmond to Surrey, the clock in the phone become 6 hours faster...so weird. I need to uncheck the auto update.
Do you guys have the same problem?

need help
Hi Guys,
I am so new to this android thing ( ex - iphone user)
I've just bought my magic from 3 Australia , black 32a version
I've read a few threads and i am finding it so confusing... I want to update my ROM, but there are so many threads and i am so confused which one i want and no threads have cleared instructions how to update ..
Now as i am in AU, can i update to this sense UI ROM, Can someone please guide and give me download links and some clear instructions...
THanks

I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.

Silo45 said:
I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.
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This is what I am interested in.
I have a UK Voda Magic 32B, and wondered whether the Rogers update could/should be used.
I'm not rooted and running Donut 1.6 at present.
Aware this is a N00b question, but think that there are probably others who are wondering what I am...
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EDIT: Also- The following link is for the sense update for HTC's (presumably 32A phone). Would that work/not work/brick my Voda 32B?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=267&cat=2&dl_id=862
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Many thanks,
JS

HD mini ROM upgrade (for South East Asia)

HTC issued an upgrade today. I think this is what you guys have been waiting for. Check it out. I'm downloading it now.
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD mini
Release Date: 2010-07-08
ROM Version:1.36.707.3

Thank you very much , what the difference from old version?

thanxxx...
thanx for notifying...

Officially, these are the improvements:
1. The trimmer bar will slide smoothly while trimming the mp3.
2. Enhance the system performance and stability.
3. Improves the ringtone sound quality.
For me, only #2 and #3 are important.
I've just finished flashing the phone. Have to wait for start up and bring all my personal setup and data back to the phone.
Then i'll give it a test run to check for any noticeable improvements.
From the outset, HD mini seems to run smoothly already before the upgrade. Although i have some basic complaints about the new os and/or htc custom software.
1. Calendar from the Manila tabs is seriously crippled. When you slide to the Calendar tab, or jump to it from the Home link, it takes half a minute before the week's schedule comes up. Unlike the old WinMo 6.1 calendar or old 3rd party calendars that jumps right up without any delays. Secondly, there's no way to make duplicates of schedules. For example, i have a "corporate meeting" scheduled for today. After the day is done, another one was set for the following week. Normally, i'd just copy from today, and then paste into 7-days after. But that's impossible to do in Manila Calendar. I'd have to resort back to the WinMo Calendar, which thankfully is still lay hidden in the sub-menus, to do this very basic task. Third, it's fixed to show 7-days schedules only. Can't add more days to it. I hope HTC will take a look at this serious draw back for the otherwise wonderful phone. (This disability will frustrate business folks.)
2. Text Messaging is eye-candy. Which is good. Except, there's a huge trade off. First, the Text tab shows only last 25 messages, and not intuitive at all. It's shown in the ancient per message style. No threading. Although, you can click All Messages to go into the threaded format. Which brings us to the second biggest problem. It's extremely slow. You click on a person, and the messages will build up slowly, taking several seconds to come up one by one, depending on the volume of the conversation with that person. Third, and the worst worst part??? The old trusty speedy WinMo's own versatile text messaging app was killed off. So you're left with no alternative.
3. Contacts/People app is also seriously crippled. This used to be WinMo's ugly but super versatile function. The very attraction that draws people to WinMo. New Contacts app is either broken or buggy. You can't use cut/copy/paste functions in most of the fields, except the very basic ones. As an example, you can do the cut/copy/paste with Mobile Number, but not the rest of it, ie. Car Number, Radio Number, Home Number, etc. So it's very choosy. Of course, if you dig deeper, you're thrown back to WinMo's own Contacts app. Saved the day? No way. It's the opposite. The new weird looking WinMo Contacts do not allow any cut/copy/paste at all, except for the Notes section. I wonder why do they have to axe this very useful core functionality. But the nightmare doesn't end there. If you change a tiny thing in a particular Contact field, saving it will take ages. Basically freezing up the phone for maybe a minute or so. Most people would have probably pried open the back cover and took out the battery. (Because mini doesn't have reset button.) It really looks like the whole phone has crashed. Until, if you're patient enough to wait, and realize it's just super slow to save an editted Contact.
Apart from these 3 nuisances. The rest of the phone works wonderfully.
So, for now, i can only resort to Outlook editting on my netbook, whenever i need to work on the contacts and schedules. Then sync.
But this means, i can't do these basic stuffs real time, as needed, whenever needed. I'll have to remember all the changes of contacts and schedules for the day. And then do my homework when i get home. It doesn't happen everyday. But still a big drawback. Information tends to get lost along the way.

New ROM brings more stability to text messaging. Still super slow, but error free now. Possibly no more bugs, or eliminated to the minimum.
I got around 2000 text messages and more than 1600 contacts in my phone. Probably the reason making the Messaging and Contacts app super slow. (In HD mini, all of them are linked. Updating something in a contact will be updated all across the whole ecosystem.)
But i had more than 20,000 messages and same number of contacts in my old trusty Asus P750 WinMo 6.1 phone. And there was no slow down in either Messaging or Contacts apps. Not even editting and filling up tons of data in the notes field of a contact can put a dent to it. The Calendar app was also fast. Both WinMo's own and third party apps.

I'm back again for more observations on the new ROM update.
Thankfully, HTC brought back the "Snooze to X mins/hours/days" options whenever a schedule reminder pops up. Really wonderful. I love this.
Thank you HTC, for solving one of my major gripes on HD mini.
I hope HTC can take a look at my other gripes (see above, plus a slight problem with excel), and incorporate solutions for the next update.
Another thank you note for HTC is that, my first unit, which seem to hang a lot, was quickly replaced with a brand new unit. Not much questions asked. Now, that's quality product coupled with quality service. Very good. No wonder HTC is rising so quickly.

just updated it yesterday from the HongKong HTC website(ROM Version:1.36.721.3), i guess it's the same as the one mentioned in this post.
Infact i haven't noticed any special change or improvement after upgrading my hd mini, the sliding between different different tabs seems to be smoother, but still it'll be lagged when moving from the home screen to 9-tabs screen.
Like bart3385 said, the "Snooze to X mins/hours/days" options makes the schedule more friendly and logical(so that i won't miss up any of the coming event).
But there're still some things need to be fixed.
1.G-sensor seems to be too much sensitive= =(not that sensitive in the previous rom. Not a big problem if u aren't interested in teeter)
2.Chinese font is still terrible(when compare to the Hong Kong CHT rom), not easy to read as there's no antialiasing when the chinese character is small.(still not a problem for those who dun read/type chinese)
3.Scanty ram!!!Need to keep killing tasks.

To prepare for the upgrade, I understand that the personal data should be backed up first. That itself isn't an issue for my friend cos her data is sync'd to outlook exchange, and SMSes can be backed up via microsoft myphone.
What about programs eg bsbtweak and other apps that I installed on her phone.. Do these need to be reinstalled? If that's the case I need to bring the various cab files along as well, when I begin the labourious task of upgrading the ROM!
What she really needs is a way to desensitise the touchscreen. She finds it too sensitive

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HT04PPZ03245

Any Asian serial number can download the ROM upgrade. HTC is just making sure you don't use this on European units, which the ROM is not intended for. In other words, avoiding mismatch.
Although i have no idea what will happen if you install an Asian ROM in a European unit. Aside from losing all the European languages. Will it work?

I have error "incorrect vender" when I install the Asian ROM in my European unit. Any solution?

rcsoarer said:
I have error "incorrect vender" when I install the Asian ROM in my European unit. Any solution?
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I guess that answers my question. Apparently, the ROM has to match the country of the device it is intended for.
Have you tried downloading a European latest ROM from HTC site, and flashing it to your unit?

saidean said:
To prepare for the upgrade, I understand that the personal data should be backed up first. That itself isn't an issue for my friend cos her data is sync'd to outlook exchange, and SMSes can be backed up via microsoft myphone.
What about programs eg bsbtweak and other apps that I installed on her phone.. Do these need to be reinstalled? If that's the case I need to bring the various cab files along as well, when I begin the labourious task of upgrading the ROM!
What she really needs is a way to desensitise the touchscreen. She finds it too sensitive
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Everything will be lost when you upgrade ROM. Including apps, configurations, data, messages, etc.
You'll have to reinstall all the apps all over again.
You can use Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS instead of MyPhone. Backup to the XML format, so that you can restore all of them back to your phone. You can also backup and restore your call logs.
I always feel safer to backup things to my pc, instead of the internet.

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This SN doesn't work, can anyone help?

Use your own serial number. Found in the box or at the back of your phone (under battery compartment).

pls any one successes download SEA ROM from HTC website kindly share here, I have try several time with no luck. always uncompleted files.
I try both Asia1 and Asia2 but can not completed download. (I have my own SN, and I think should not the issued).

did anyone realise that the auto updates and events sync from facebook for every 2 hours doesn't work in the new HTC SEA update?
anyone else face this problem?

esnwizz said:
did anyone realise that the auto updates and events sync from facebook for every 2 hours doesn't work in the new HTC SEA update?
anyone else face this problem?
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Me Too .... The facebook auto-sync is not working for me!!!! :-(

DISCONTINUED - [ROM][13-mar-2011][v0.4] Dexter's xt720 MotoBlur remake

so here is the Blur edition based on my 2.2.1.
You can also follow updates on Twitter now: Dexter Picard (DexterPicard) on Twitter or
if you like my mod or you can visit my new homepage at Dexter's mods
Changelog v0.4 maintenance release Download nandroid image here
- memory enhancements (some not majors)
- original 2.1 cam included.​
Changelog v0.3a Download nandroid image here
- fixed blur account registration to be using UK options, instead of chinese options
- changed memory handling to be UI optimized, but limiting options for bigger games to run though (see it as UI friendly but not games friendly)​
Changelog v0.3
- 720P recording works now.
- HDMI output partly working, note: if enabled to tv out, you cannot shutdown the output, so android display appear on tv, which is a bug. but it works!
- NOT working: FMRadio
- Using latest defy 2.2 UK update, with more languages supported, like uk,german,french, italian, dutch,polish and few more others.
- USB old app from 2.2 added (please ignore wifi orange icon in taskbar, thanks!)
- removed some malware + swype defy edition.
- not deodex'd (much faster load times)
- ZOOM removed (not supported by our model)
- OpenRecovery not included in nandroid, please install after restore, to keep functionality in place.
- MilestoneOverclock app not included, but module and oc-settings file supported.
- ext2sdcard automatically enabled if found on partition2 of sdcard.
- gameloft games require more memory this rom got like 35MB free when running, so you need to tweak apps if you want games to run.​
Install instructions:
Make sure sdcard is visible, when you get to step 6 of instructions, or it all fails, same with restore..
NOTE: only works on top of 2.1 sbf installs, due to large amound of /system storage..
A: users with stock 2.1 can proceed to step 1 in instructions.
B: users with stock SBF korean 2.2 rom , need to flash stock 2.1 and goto step 1
root it (SuperOneClick ) - included with zip
install OpenRecovery , use included apk.
reboot phone once
copy the folder "nandroid" to root directory of your sdcard.
Make sure sdcard is not attached to pc using "mass storage share" to pc.
Run OpenRecovery app and "install Recovery".
Press Boot recovery
restore the backup "blur22xxxx"
wipe / factory reset in OpenRecovery
reboot
OC-SETTINGS
you can add a file onto the sdcard with overclock settings which loads at startup.
see example included with zip file release for more details.
copy it directly to sdcard, and you got 1Ghz settings configured.
note: editing the file with notepad might corrupt it as its linux formatted, so use an editor with support for linux text files.
Issues reported in v0.3:
none for now

v0.1 is now online!

DEFINITELY testing this when I get home
Dex you're a genius

refresh, refresh.. downloading.... restoring
More info tomorrow, 10x Dexter !

haven't gotten a chance to flash yet, download is taking FOREVER, but after its done, if i wanna change back, do i just do a nandroid restore of one of your froyo roms? or do i have to flash back to 2.1 first?

OH THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
I was about to sell the XT720 because I wanted Blur. Now I'll have it!
I LOVE YOU!
I hope it comes in spanish language soon

first bugs to report (quite a few...)
I recieve multiples of sms messages, e.g., i would recieve the same message from the same person several times.
market does not like to have multiple downloads at the same time.
in the app drawer, the very very bottom of the screen is slightly cut off, no big deal, just saying.
in the Blur messaging widget, using the reply button on the widget will.not allow the message to send, message can still be typed, but will.not send.
vibrate function will randomly stop working, and requires a reboot.
media gallery button serves as voice command..? yeah.
market and browser will occasionally not work on wifi.
if there are more bugs i will be right on it
now the good
Blur works!!!
ram is not totally devoured, actually pretty good compared to previous froyo release. (although some system apps like the included task manager and bluetooth are constantly running, i do not have bluetooth on.)
very stable, usable build, i will be using it daily until the next release.
great stuff dex
Sent from my XT720 using XDA App

holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my XT720 using XDA App

alx294 said:
holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my XT720 using XDA App
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with oc or stock clock processor?
Sent from my XT720 using Tapatalk

Few bugs from me:
- Market download/install is very, very slow.
- I think that maybe there is some battery drain because from my last post (in the middle of the night) after I install Blur till now - 50% down. This is with 3g and few mails to check. TEMP+CPU shows 36C but when I wake up I think that the phone was s little hot in the back.
Except Blur I don`t have different software installed (comparing to 2.2).
During this post the phone don`t recognize the USB in PC... I`m not sure were is the problem (phone., soft or PC) so for the moment this is not reported.
- Maybe this is not a bug, but there is japan letters in some menus - phone (when I dial persons, recent call s and rrs news).
- It`s stupid but the phone unlock (slide) is very much harder than before...
- There is more free memory (This is not a bug!)

grigorbg said:
Few bugs from me:
- Market download/install is very, very slow.
- I think that maybe there is some battery drain because from my last post (in the middle of the night) after I install Blur till now - 50% down. This is with 3g and few mails to check. TEMP+CPU shows 36C but when I wake up I think that the phone was s little hot in the back.
Except Blur I don`t have different software installed (comparing to 2.2).
During this post the phone don`t recognize the USB in PC... I`m not sure were is the problem (phone., soft or PC) so for the moment this is not reported.
- Maybe this is not a bug, but there is japan letters in some menus - phone (when I dial persons, recent call s and rrs news).
- It`s stupid but the phone unlock (slide) is very much harder than before...
- There is more free memory (This is not a bug!)
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thanks to all for the quick reporting back.
- sms -
i think i know where the problem is, as it also happened on milestone :-( and i recall i got it fixed.
- jananese text -
not sure im able to fix, i dont get the lang, and im no translator..
- battery drain -
Blur is known for taking huge cpu and not being "sleepy", just looking at the log output happening during sleep is huge.. i did not expect Blur to be optimized at all.. and im not sure how it can be fixed except removed Blur, with a Deblur.
- slider -
yes, it seems it release your touchpoint much quicker than it should.. ill look at it, i think someone else wrote something like this on korean rom.
- usb .
i used only debugging, so i never actually confirmed usb mass storage.. will be checked later on..
- networking -
i noticed it too with Market, there is an issue with the Market im aware of, but might require a deodex'd of packages, which cost speed and memory/storage, so im not sure how much i do on this subject for now..

alx294 said:
holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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please do not put anything into this..
it could relate to a bug in h264 or aac encoding, so if LGCamera does not encode video or audio with aac, you know the reason..

Yes! MotoBlur Gonna try it asap @Dexter: Little hint: maybe a few screenshots of how it looks on the XT720?
And can I help with translating or is that not possible? 'Cause I've translated various programs, I love to do that and I have a lot of spare time, so I can translate it if possible.

Bug not charging while connected to the charger

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Bug not charging while connected to the charger
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Sorry..not.. a bug one reboot and the cell is charging now

Dexter_nlb said:
please do not put anything into this..
it could relate to a bug in h264 or aac encoding, so if LGCamera does not encode video or audio with aac, you know the reason..
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lol this is true... and i am oc'ed.... darn i was excited xD
anyway, i also have the lockscreen bug, and the wifi issue is persistant with all apps not just market and browser.
Sent from my XT720 using XDA App

LG camera sucks for me. I'm using a camera from the Android market now, but I can use it only at 3.2MP in the free version. But it is still really good
There are some problems with the Blur accounts (I can't setup facebook for the social widgets) And the phone doesn't read my music and some pictures in the SD card.
Everything else is just

-Facebook account issues
After creating and signing in with Facebook, account disappears and contacts are not synced in contacts and cannot add facebook account again.....

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-Facebook account issues
After creating ad signing in with Facebook, accound disapears and contacts are not syncked in contacts and cannot add facebook account again.....
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for twitter and facebook, the Blur edition used (defy 2.2), it did not actually come with those apps :-( , so maybe chinese ppl do not have it allowed? even GPS was disabled originally..
Vistaus said:
Yes! MotoBlur Gonna try it asap @Dexter: Little hint: maybe a few screenshots of how it looks on the XT720?
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for people used to knowing motorola and their products, Blur might not need much presentation, it pretty much looks Blur to me.. and i admit knowing alot who goes for a Deblur edtion, but that i leave up to people to decide..

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for twitter and facebook, the Blur edition used (defy 2.2), it did not actually come with those apps :-( , so maybe chinese ppl do not have it allowed? even GPS was disabled originally..
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Can you fix some of this things?
facebook/twitter accounts, camera?