Ok, so I've just updated my Rogers HTC Magic to with Rogers new update:
HTC_Magic_Update_File1
HTC_Magic_Update_File2
I'd just like to let everyone know that it's absolutely beautifu and so fastl!!!
Runs faster than any hero based ROM on XDA or on any other forum (no offence devs but thanks for your efforts).
My new radio and hboot are as follows:
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Not quite sure what this means as far as rooting the phone and any development goes, but in general I am quite happy with this update. I will be posting some screen shots in a short time as I have just done the update and need to get everything sorted out. If you have any questions feel free to ask
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
I have done the update as well and am VERY happy with the new UI (Sence) on my Magic.....Reminds me a bit of my old HTC Touch Diamond....just better cuz it NOT Windows
You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Correct. But as for paid apps I'm unsure of the results as I didn't have any to begin with. As far as root goes, I'm trying to figure out a way to root the phone as the current methods are out dated for this update. I still have all my data on the sdcard, pictures, videos etc.. so you should be able to keep all of your paid apps. It's basically a matter of time before someone finds a way to root our phones but I'm sure it won't be long.
The new Sense UI is the fastest I have ever seen (and I've tried all of them). There is some issue with sending emails, as I haven't been able to send an email as of yet. I will be calling Rogers today to get this issue sorted out.
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
virtualahmad said:
You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.
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I'd wait for one of the guys here to work their magic (pun intended) before upgrading. As gorgeous as SenseUI is, it's too hard to part with all those apps and back up features!
For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?
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For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?
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I'ved used the cursorsense and it isn't bad at all. Still nothing compares to how fast this Sense UI runs from Rogers. There is zero lag, and when I say that I mean it. For example when running the Sense stock Music App there is always lag, it doesn't matter who's ROM your using but with this update the Sense Music App works to the millisecond. There is no lag at all on this update so basically you can't compare it to anyone's ROM. All of those ROM's were ported as opposed to this one being built specifically for the Magic from the ground up. But like I said in an earlier post, I am still having problems being able to send emails through the stock app using my Hotmail account. I called Rogers today and they told me that they will fix this problem. I told them that if it's not fixed within the next 2 weeks (which is a reasonable time to wait) that I would be able to get a free upgrade on the next phone of my choice, which they had agreed to. If you haven't updated your ROM and your using a Rogers Magic/Dream I would highly recommend it. They get a 8.5/10 as far as the update goes. I would give them a 10 if my emails weren't giving me a problem and if it was upgraded to version 2.0+ but I guess we can't have it all . Oh and by the way it seems as tho the RAM has somehow been decreased? It was 196 prior to the update and now it's stitting at 165! If anyone knows why this happened please feel free to let us know.
HTC Magic (32A)
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
I am downloading it... the new ROM
Thank you, FoTwoZero, Chynkinese, & zacaszius.. your comments and information would be help for those who are doing this updating with HTC magic.
I am downloading this new ROM at this moment...and hesitate to update my rom. cuz I am also concerning about losing all my data and the ROM I am using... it's a CM 4.2.13. and I am very happy with it so far, even the camera function is kind of cooking.
The Hboot is 1.33.2010
Radio: 3.22.23.18
Rooting
Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?
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Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?
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No not yet.
I havent had any issues scince the update....dint have any before either
Compared to the 1.5 Scene is way better IMO runs quicker, smother and has a bunch more "goodies" to make it the best phone i've ever owned.
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Rats.. I'm so loving the Wifi Tether application... and now they've disabled my internet until I can update it.
new rogers/HTC ROM feedback
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.
virtualahmad said:
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.
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I had the same problem when I installed the first file it kept on rebootin
installed the second one it was cool,
and i dint have any prob about the roaming stuff and about the weather widget, after u mentioned it here i tried to delete the second city ottawa and it worked,,
no voice search
but overall I like this ROM so much, and hope to get the 2.1 update soon
zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Remember, contacts are synced to Google, so you don't loose those. This includes contact photos if you're like me and want them on each and every contact. Also, paid apps are remembered by the Android Market, so if you wipe your phone, you can quickly and easily reinstall your paid apps, without having to pay for them again.
As far as camera photos and music; that's on your SD card. Just copy it all to your PC before flashing the update.
Text messages.... http://www . androlib . com/android.application.com-riteshsahu-smsbackuprestore-zCEB.aspx <-- That program worked well for me. Should run w/out root access. Only downside is that it doesn't do MMS messages.
Things like savegames and other application data (bookmarks, preferences)..... Yeah, those are going to be lost, unfortunately. :\
HTH,
Chris
I have the update from Rogers but I noticed that the Auto Clock Update is not accurate at all. While I drove from Richmond to Surrey, the clock in the phone become 6 hours faster...so weird. I need to uncheck the auto update.
Do you guys have the same problem?
need help
Hi Guys,
I am so new to this android thing ( ex - iphone user)
I've just bought my magic from 3 Australia , black 32a version
I've read a few threads and i am finding it so confusing... I want to update my ROM, but there are so many threads and i am so confused which one i want and no threads have cleared instructions how to update ..
Now as i am in AU, can i update to this sense UI ROM, Can someone please guide and give me download links and some clear instructions...
THanks
I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.
Silo45 said:
I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.
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This is what I am interested in.
I have a UK Voda Magic 32B, and wondered whether the Rogers update could/should be used.
I'm not rooted and running Donut 1.6 at present.
Aware this is a N00b question, but think that there are probably others who are wondering what I am...
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EDIT: Also- The following link is for the sense update for HTC's (presumably 32A phone). Would that work/not work/brick my Voda 32B?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=267&cat=2&dl_id=862
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Many thanks,
JS
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This is my first post, so take it easy on me.
I've just received my HTC Hero through the post today. I took out an ultra cheap contract with t-mobile here in the uk. I previously owned an iPhone 3g, and even though the iPhone looks cooler the Hero is a much better phone.
I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Sense UI and stick on the stock version of Android 'donut 1.6' (is that the latest version) in an effort improve the speed.
You shouldn't need to get rid of SenseUI to speed things up - My Hero is running on Modaco ROM and is plenty fast enough!
Have you updated to the 2.73 release from T-Mobile?
This does speed things up a bit from the stock ROM that comes with the phone!
If you want it faster than that - I suggest you Root and put Modaco's latest Rom on your Hero and the you'll have Apps2SD (which speeds things up also)
I find that mine is fast enough for everyday use! I have approx 60 apps installed too.
Hi,
The Hero doesn't run on Android 1.6 it's on 1.5. I agree with the earlier poster if you update to 2.73, it should be quick enough. However if you really want to go to Android, just go to settings, applications, manage applications. Find HTC Sense and clear the the default. Now when you press the home key, you'll get a choice between Sense and Home (android 1.5). Bear in mind if you choose Home, you won't be able to use HTC widgets.
btw it does remember what icons you have etc so i currently have an android set up that I play with occasionally but tend to use Sense UI on a daily basis.
M
Thanks for your replies. I've been using the Hero for a few days now, and i'm quite impressed. However I would like the latest ROM version as i'm currently running build number 1.76.110.6 software version 1.0
I try to update to the latest ROM (2.73.405.5) through HTCs website but when I try and download the file, I get an error message saying 'not suitable for your phone' I'm definitely selecting the right fw and phone so I have no idea what is going on.
Is there anyway I can manually upgrade without using HTCs software? Could it be down to the fact im on T-mobile in the UK? Has anybody else had this problem?
You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
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You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
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oh, thanks for the link. I've downloaded the update. Is there anything 'special' i need to do other than follow the on screen instructions? This will be my first ever Hero update and i'm scared of bricking my phone. Will this void warranty?
I forgot to ask in the post above.
Will this update for t-mobile still let me keep the Sense UI?
Yes, but it will wipe the phone so get ready for all your contacts to disappear.
Hello all, I posted this on another site, but thought I should post it here too as I have overcome some of the teething problems I had when posting here previously, and am REALLY happy with this phone.
Ive flashed with Pauls Modaco ROM, and replaced the TouchWiz with LaunchPro, and am VERY happy with the speed and overall performance.
I did have a bit of a lag and a bit of a wifi connection issue, but flashed the rom again and the wifi problem disappeared, the lag went with TouchWiz.
GPS has been fine, Navigation great, so has voice searching, playback of my Divx Xvid WMV videos and Flac Ape WMA etc audio files... been loving just dragging and dropping my movies and music to the EXT SD disk, just lovely to NOT have iTunes try to control your life!!
Yahoo and Gmail push are fantastic and incredibly fast (for yahoo you MUST use the Yahoo Mail app which gives you IMAP on Yahoo!!! (yesssssss!!!!) with all its folders etc.
Recording 720p videos has been really amazing, smooth 30fps with no dropped frames, and the audio was surprisingly good too. No flash for stills, but the cam shoots well in low light and you can bluetooth share the photos with your friends too.
ABSOLUTELY bloody delighted I am, by far the best phone I have ever used, thank god I saw the light and returned my iPhone 4, though its really a very good phone, just not as good as this, with the openness, speed, flexibility and widgets!
Thanks for the community and support here,
Mark, UK.
Yes with the newer firmwares gps and lag no longer an issue,and i think launcher pro is a must for this phone.I just love the customisation possibilites with android,you really can make your phone unique and your own.
As for the hd video recording i was playing a few back through the ps3 last night and really was shocked by the clairity of them (being realistic and considering its a phone)
Mark, great testimony.
I'm just about going to eBay off my SGS and get an iPhone 4 mainly because of the serious lags and GPS faults. I'm still very keen to try out Froyo 2.2 but perhaps on a device that has better performance and GPS. As it is now I have not been able to realise some of the key reason why I came to Android - i.e., to watch flash videos and to have browsers that some reports claim is as much as 3 times faster than iPhone's. (I know, I know, I should have known that it is still running 2.1. The Optus shop assistant assured me that she had personally installed 2.2 onto SGS, and I was naive enough to take her word for it before buying)
I like to get to exactly where you are now. Would you mind giving us the links to your firmware please?
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I'm still very keen to try out Froyo 2.2 but perhaps on a device that has better performance and GPS.
I like to get to exactly where you are now. Would you mind giving us the links to your firmware please?
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Hi Steve, no probs, but I am running 2.1 still!
From experience on ROMS for Hero and then my WinMo Touch HD before that, the best roms are based on manufacturer's release versions. I dont have any GPS problems, certainly no more than any other phone Ive had, and even my expensive, in-car Garmin gps-specific device still takes a while to get satellites sometimes! I have successfully used my phone twice so far to enter an address and do turn by turn navigation.
For my ROM, I paid a bit to Modaco last year, so that still entitles me to free downloads of their roms, the link is
http://android.modaco.com/content/s...rom-for-samsung-galaxy-s-with-online-kitchen/
You DO have to flash first to one ROM then to another, as Paul says in the instructions. For rooting, I think there are some easy instructions on this xda forum.
For the Launcher Pro, Id just search the market.
I have nothing against the iPhone (other than the design flaw and slimeball steve jobs smoke and mirrors) my wife has a 3gs with iOS4, it runs well as a phone, but IMO it is really for people who want a phone with apps that are useful to them... nothing wrong with that! For someone who wants to be closer to the cutting edge, nothing beats android. Personally, as a bit of a geek myself, I love to have a phone that works AND have an exciting phone. No other phone on the market offers ALL of what the SGS does... not even the Evo.
Mark.
ps, the Evo does have 4g but no divx xvid ape flac
livegod said:
Hi Steve, no probs, but I am running 2.1 still!
From experience on ROMS for Hero and then my WinMo Touch HD before that, the best roms are based on manufacturer's release versions. I dont have any GPS problems, certainly no more than any other phone Ive had, and even my expensive, in-car Garmin gps-specific device still takes a while to get satellites sometimes! I have successfully used my phone twice so far to enter an address and do turn by turn navigation.
For my ROM, I paid a bit to Modaco last year, so that still entitles me to free downloads of their roms, the link is
http://android.modaco.com/content/s...rom-for-samsung-galaxy-s-with-online-kitchen/
You DO have to flash first to one ROM then to another, as Paul says in the instructions. For rooting, I think there are some easy instructions on this xda forum.
For the Launcher Pro, Id just search the market.
I have nothing against the iPhone (other than the design flaw and slimeball steve jobs smoke and mirrors) my wife has a 3gs with iOS4, it runs well as a phone, but IMO it is really for people who want a phone with apps that are useful to them... nothing wrong with that! For someone who wants to be closer to the cutting edge, nothing beats android. Personally, as a bit of a geek myself, I love to have a phone that works AND have an exciting phone. No other phone on the market offers ALL of what the SGS does... not even the Evo.
Mark.
ps, the Evo does have 4g but no divx xvid ape flac
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Hey Mark,
I've just downloaded JG1. However, since this is my first Android phone, I have no idea what to do with it. Currently I'm having a rooted JF3 firmware. Would you mind just in a few points tell me how to install JG1 since the Modaco link assumes that it's already done?
BTW, the way I unrooted was to download an update.zip file into \sdcard, then press volume, power and home, select the update.zip item, and that's it. Is the procedure for installing JG1 similar? Do I need to rename JG1.zip as update.zip?
Thanks a million, and I look forward to sharing your joy in using this phone.
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BTW, the way I unrooted was to download an update.zip file into \sdcard, then press volume, power and home, select the update.zip item, and that's it. Is the procedure for installing JG1 similar? Do I need to rename JG1.zip as update.zip?
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Hi there, yep, thats exactly it, rename to update.zip and flash as you did when you unrooted.
Im going out for most the day, so report back!
Cheers,
Mark
livegod said:
Hi there, yep, thats exactly it, rename to update.zip and flash as you did when you unrooted.
Im going out for most the day, so report back!
Cheers,
Mark
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Sounds very easy. Thanks for your great help. I assume to move to the custom ROM in modaco, I do exactly the same thing again?
I'm having problem. This is what I did:
- I copied JG1.zip into sdcard, and rename it Update.
- Turn off the phone
- Press volume up+power+home until I see the Samsung logo, then let go.
- Use the volume key to go down to apply sdcard: update.zip, press home.
Here, I have these messages displayed:
#MANUAL MODE#
--Apply Muti-CSC...
Installing Muti-CSC
--Install from sdcrd...
Finding update package
Opening update package
Installing update
Installationg aborted.
What did I do wrong?
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I'm having problem.
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I don't think you're supposed to flash JG1 as an update.zip? I was under the impression that update.zip is for rooting/unrooting and custom ROMs, and not for official firmware...
You need to flash it with Odin if the update.zip method isn't working!
I can't post links since I'm a new, unverified member (grrrrr...) but go to the Galaxy S Android Development forum here at XDA, there's a {BIG FAQ Thread} {Flash/Root HOWTO}, read post #2 in that thread!
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I don't think you're supposed to flash JG1 as an update.zip? I was under the impression that update.zip is for rooting/unrooting and custom ROMs, and not for official firmware...
You need to flash it with Odin if the update.zip method isn't working!
I can't post links since I'm a new, unverified member (grrrrr...) but go to the Galaxy S Android Development forum here at XDA, there's a {BIG FAQ Thread} {Flash/Root HOWTO}, read post #2 in that thread!
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I'm not sure what's in the JG1.zip file.
What I have done is exactly what post #2 says. I don't see any step that I did being different from what it says I should do.
Still no luck with JG1 Installation. Anyone knows what the problem is?
You need to flash rom via Odin here is download link for Odin and PIT:
https://www.wuala.com/Samsung Galax...din/Odin & Bootloader(.PIT)/?key=AfzUZSU4SpKU
Download relevant firmware, in this instance JG1 which you will find at the following(you need to register first):
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/WEBPROTECT-samsungi9000.htm
Also there you will find at the bottom flash guide in PDF. Download that and follow the instructions.
Once you have flashed firmware then you can flash custom rom.
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Still no luck with JG1 Installation. Anyone knows what the problem is?
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Have you succesfully installed drivers on your pc?
I know I can use the Odin method via PC to flash the ROM, but I had chosen method B procedure B described in this post to flash instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7152078&postcount=2
I want to know why it was not working. Or is the post wrong in saying that you can use method B procedure B?
Ok, so after using Energy ROMs since this phone came out everything worked pretty decently. Recently, I can not get weather in 3G. I read in another thread that T=Mobile is blocking it? Will there be any way around this?
I might go back to stock : (
I have always really hated this phone. I want a full Android solution but I just bought a car.
When using my HD2 I noticed when tethered to my laptop my OpenVPN software sometimes acts as if its blocked. There are other strange internet discrepancies as well so blocking is possible.
The weather on certain roms when using My Location doesnt work. If you add your location manually then I am betting it works. For example on Miri's Rom I noticed Burbank, CA cannot be detected whereas Palmdale, CA will be detected. If I add Burbank manually without using My Location then I get the data. Kwbr's Rom it detects burbank so I am not sure if there is weather databases missing from certain roms?
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Ok, so after using Energy ROMs since this phone came out everything worked pretty decently. Recently, I can not get weather in 3G. I read in another thread that T=Mobile is blocking it? Will there be any way around this?
I might go back to stock : (
I have always really hated this phone. I want a full Android solution but I just bought a car.
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Curious... your statement is that T-Mobile is blocking data... and you're hating on the HD2??
Data is Data.... if your statement that T-Mobile is blocking the data is true... then it wouldn't matter WHAT phone you were on... Android, WinMo, BB, ect... that data would be blocked...
The HD2 is a wonderful phone... is it perfect? by no means... but which phone is???
all that being said... I've been running the latest Energy ROM and have not had ANY issues with Weather updates... so a few questions:
what build are you running?
what radio?
have you tried a different build &/or Radio?
results?
it's pretty much a given that a stock build will be pretty stable VS a custom build... but the downside is that you lose the cutting edge stuff that is available in the customs. If a specific build/ROM is giving you issues... try a different one and see if the situation improves.
Also... make sure you are using Task29 before you flash... so you don't have residual bugs that could creep in from an old flash.
if you're issues are connection related, try a different radio... see if that solves your issue...
and welcome to the wonderful world of Customizing Electronics! regardless of WHAT you're customizing... there will be bugs... no platform/device is immune
All my info in my signatre is up to date and accurate. I can no longer get weather updates when I am in 3g or better. Its strange. I also cant update Facebook news feed unless I log out and log back in. I am by no means a developer but I have flashed dozens of ROMs and tested almost all Android builds on ths phone. I am very technically inclined and have donated to the Energy developer for his hard work. Every time I flash i do Task29, radio, ROM, then reset. I even tried factory reset this time becauseI never had to try that in the past. there is a legitimate issue and someone specifically did mention that TMO is now blocking certain data. maybe i took this wrong but i figured that they finally figured out how to block users with HSPL users from certain content.
oh btw ryan. when tjis phone came out, Hspl ROMS were way more stable then stock TMO stuff. this phone is just awful. its not the devs fault. its not the hardware. its microsoft. for instance, how many clicks or taps do i need to get 1 stinkin email? like 5! that is so annoying pardon spelling and grammar. im posting from the phone. and everytime i hit space i hit the on screen keyboard buttonand the keya dissappear grrrrrrrrrrrr
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All my info in my signatre is up to date and accurate. I can no longer get weather updates when I am in 3g or better. Its strange. I also cant update Facebook news feed unless I log out and log back in. I am by no means a developer but I have flashed dozens of ROMs and tested almost all Android builds on ths phone. I am very technically inclined and have donated to the Energy developer for his hard work. Every time I flash i do Task29, radio, ROM, then reset. I even tried factory reset this time becauseI never had to try that in the past. there is a legitimate issue and someone specifically did mention that TMO is now blocking certain data. maybe i took this wrong but i figured that they finally figured out how to block users with HSPL users from certain content.
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Well, like I said... I'm running the latest Energy build (Oct. 8 21681) which means I've got HSPL, and I'm running the recent radio (2.15.50.14) and I haven't had any issue what-so-ever with Data.
I HIGHLY DOUBT TMO is blocking based on HSPL. How could they tell based wireless traffic besides... the only things i've been reading regarding TMO blocking anything have been in regards to text messages.... there is a Data Throttling change coming soon... after 5GB your data connection will be slower till next billing cycle... but that is by no means a block.
As for the rest of your statement.... I only need 1 click for email... don't know WTF you're doing if you need 5 lol
I have NO issues with Microsoft... yes, WinMo6x is an old OS... but it is also the most customizable.... Look at all the UI mods available, all the different themes.... Android, iOS, BB none of those have that... Android is a great OS, but it has it querks too.
Not saying these things to talk you into keeping your phone... hell... I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that would be willing to take it off your hands for you ;p
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Well, like I said... I'm running the latest Energy build (Oct. 8 21681) which means I've got HSPL, and I'm running the recent radio (2.15.50.14) and I haven't had any issue what-so-ever with Data.
I HIGHLY DOUBT TMO is blocking based on HSPL. How could they tell based wireless traffic besides... the only things i've been reading regarding TMO blocking anything have been in regards to text messages.... there is a Data Throttling change coming soon... after 5GB your data connection will be slower till next billing cycle... but that is by no means a block.
As for the rest of your statement.... I only need 1 click for email... don't know WTF you're doing if you need 5 lol
I have NO issues with Microsoft... yes, WinMo6x is an old OS... but it is also the most customizable.... Look at all the UI mods available, all the different themes.... Android, iOS, BB none of those have that... Android is a great OS, but it has it querks too.
Not saying these things to talk you into keeping your phone... hell... I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that would be willing to take it off your hands for you ;p
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so wait...when you click on an email mssg you don have to tap "Get the rest of this message?" Than you have to wait for it to DL. Then if there are pictures, you have to tap to DL pics. Then you have to confirm that you want to DL pics. Then you have to tap to scroll to the right. AWEFUL!
I didnt notice the new radio that came out. I thought that we could only use radios that end in _2 in the USA with TMO?
We will see what happens with the latest updates. God I want a phone that works.
echardcore said:
I didnt notice the new radio that came out. I thought that we could only use radios that end in _2 in the USA with TMO?
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TMO radios have to be X.X.50.X
The first stickied thread here is regarding TMO radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733
as for your email issues.... wonder if there are REG entry settings that could adjust it?... will do some digging
Found a thread on the Touch pro section regarding this....
The following settings make it to where, once you download an image the first time, on an email it will not require you to download it again.
Create the following DWORD keys,
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings
"BlockExternalContent" with a value of 0
"LoadExternalImages" with a value of 1
"AutomaticallyInlineImages" with a value of 1
still looking for some REG setting that will disable the option outright... but this is a step in the right direction.
I also found a setting in the REG for email trunation... if you want that
TMO does block certain ports and can keep certain programs from working correctly or at all, when tethered.
An example I have faced is using Yahoo Messenger on my laptop while tethered. Skype seems to work for me in this case when I need to use a messaging program with webcam functionality.
THank you for your help. I like the REG item you posted.
I wanted to start this thread to have all of the good and bad of this ROM in one thread instead of peppered all over the message board.
I installed this new ROM yesterday when it was released. I was running 2.13 with 2.10 touch drivers.
Pros:
Touch Drivers are perfect. No need to run 2.10 touch drivers with this ROM.
HSDPA/HSUPA support- Added an "Advanced Network" Section in Connections that I didn't notice before. Haven't seen an "H" yet on my data.
Everything seems to run smooth and fast. Loads Albums faster.
Battery seems the same. I'll know more tonight. Not noticing any drain.
Think they made some tweaks to the Music tab because my albums list correctly in Portrait.
New Radio. Works fine for me.
Added Amazon Mp3
Shazam stock
Cons: This isn't really a con because it's probably something not related.
My local weather won't update. it updated when I first booted on the new ROM, but hasn't since. It updates all of the cities that are added, but not the local. I can even manually add my city and that updates fine.
Could be another issue? Not sure. For now I am using the clock that doesn't have the weather on it so that I forget that it's not working.
If you are HSPL flashing this via USB from your computer will NOT over write it. I ran task 29 before installing because I like to start fresh.
The only thing i have noticed is my clock is always wrong(maybe user related). Also my facebook will not update on 3g network or WiFi. Not a big deal really. This rom works awesome with Android by the way. Went all day yesterday without having to charge with minimal use. Pretty good from the 2 hours i was getting with 2.10
I have to say this ROM is just about perfect sofar other than the HTC Peep issue ive posted about in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814101
In general feels faster, smoother, touch screen is more responsive.
i'm about to download...hope the touch issue is fixed lol, t-mobile is sending me another unit but i don't wanna get rid of my old 1!
Well ill say this much about the touch screen, My original HD2 i got 2 days after it was released had a great touch screen. I also have the HTC capacitive stylus which worked well on it too. I never upgraded the ROM on that one because of the touch screen issues with 2.13.
I had to get my HD2 replaced 2 months ago and it shipped with 2.13. The touch screen sucked and the capacitive stylus would not work AT ALL on it. After upgrading to 3.14 the touch screen feels like it did with my original HD2 and the stylus works again too!
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Cons: This isn't really a con because it's probably something not related.
My local weather won't update. it updated when I first booted on the new ROM, but hasn't since. It updates all of the cities that are added, but not the local. I can even manually add my city and that updates fine.
Could be another issue? Not sure. For now I am using the clock that doesn't have the weather on it so that I forget that it's not working.
If you are HSPL flashing this via USB from your computer will NOT over write it. I ran task 29 before installing because I like to start fresh.
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it's an issue with sense and your location(weather). this happened to me back in july, you just have to wait it out and it will return in a couple days ..
mr8820 said:
it's an issue with sense and your location(weather). this happened to me back in july, you just have to wait it out and it will return in a couple days ..
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switch your data to "edge" instead of "3G" it will update.
bassdroid said:
The only thing i have noticed is my clock is always wrong(maybe user related). Also my facebook will not update on 3g network or WiFi. Not a big deal really. This rom works awesome with Android by the way. Went all day yesterday without having to charge with minimal use. Pretty good from the 2 hours i was getting with 2.10
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Facebook not updating is not a ROM issue.. its an app issue.. i heard that they will be launching an update to fix this error.
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switch your data to "edge" instead of "3G" it will update.
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I saw your response in another thread... How do I manually switch to edge?
It's ALWAYS updated on 3G until now, so what would cause it to happen? Switching to edge sounds like a work around, which is cool, but not really the answer.
It's updating the same exact city when is manually added on 3G so i don't really understand what is different about the local weather. Would love to understand why. The idea is to look at my phone and have it update automatically and I'm not trying to rock edge all day just for this.
Anyone having problems with hiding SIM contacts? I installed BsB Tweaks, turned off "Show SIM contacts" but they still appear in my All People list.
Sorry folks, forgot to set All People/Menu/View to "Contacts"...
crisisinthecity said:
I saw your response in another thread... How do I manually switch to edge?
It's ALWAYS updated on 3G until now, so what would cause it to happen? Switching to edge sounds like a work around, which is cool, but not really the answer.
It's updating the same exact city when is manually added on 3G so i don't really understand what is different about the local weather. Would love to understand why. The idea is to look at my phone and have it update automatically and I'm not trying to rock edge all day just for this.
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go to Phone Dialer>Menu>Options>Band on the "Network Type" select "GSM".
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go to Phone Dialer>Menu>Options>Band on the "Network Type" select "GSM".
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So what is the deal here? That totally worked. But why isn't it working on 3G like normal?
chadster214 said:
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How? I don't seem to have the choice... just data on/off.
Note to self: Read ENTIRE thread before posting!
crisisinthecity said:
So what is the deal here? That totally worked. But why isn't it working on 3G like normal?
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there are some 3G towers that are down at the moment and will not give you a weather update. we have to wait until they are fixed. I'm just hoping its the HSPA+ upgrade.. hehehe..
ElaineD said:
How? I don't seem to have the choice... just data on/off.
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LOL... don't worry I tend to do the same..
Finally enjoying my HD2
Great idea starting this thread, OP!
I haven't posted anything in a while but felt compelled to log in today and outline how pleased I am after my upgrade to the latest ROM - 3.14. It's like my HD2 has turned a new leaf altogether. I was on 2.13 prior to this (without the touch response fix posted here). After upgrading to the new ROM, the interface feels much more fluid and I am finally "enjoying" the phone (I've had it since release in the US).
My wife has an iPhone and the iPhone usage experience was always way superior. She was also never able to use my phone properly - kept bringing apps up by mistake or pressing soft buttons inadvertently. With the upgrade, however, all this has changed for the better. HD2 now has the same fluidity and all the UI improvements (over the iPhone) are finally showing their true color! I also used a friend's Android-based incredible a while back and it felt much faster and smoother in comparison to my HD2 but I am very, very happy with my HD2 now as it feels as responsive.
The only apps I have installed after the hard reboot the upgrade caused are CHT 1.8, Google Maps, Skype and Bing. No BSB, no Chainfire driver, no registry mods, etc. I'll likely stay this way but I am curious if Chainfire has made a difference for anyone.
So what has changed?
I am no expert but it seems like the video driver has received a significant upgrade. This is probably the reason why everything seems faster. E.g. with 2.13, the favorites in Opera/IE came up after a significant lag. This is a lot faster (although not instantaneous,as it should be).
Touch screen is a LOT more fluid and more accurate. Swype seems to be faster as well (I've set it to be more accurate than default). Web browsing is faster and more fluid. Apps launch more quickly. Scrolling Sense tabs is a lot faster and more fluid. My largish collection of music also loads faster on the Music tab (and I still have the same SD card). I can swipe through Outlook email previews noticeably faster now too! In short, everything I use on an hourly basis has improved.
No bugs so far (and no, I don't use SMS messaging much at all).
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there are some 3G towers that are down at the moment and will not give you a weather update. we have to wait until they are fixed. I'm just hoping its the HSPA+ upgrade.. hehehe..
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good advice . and you will be getting hspa+, after my weather came back i had it .
Con:
Opera 9.7 complains about 'out of memory' now. This didn't happened on 2.13. I only have 4 tabs open and js disabled too. I've opened as many as 9 tabs before and never got the out of memory problem before. It only used 4.24MB of memory according to task manager.
bugmenever said:
Great idea starting this thread, OP!
I haven't posted anything in a while but felt compelled to log in today and outline how pleased I am after my upgrade to the latest ROM - 3.14. It's like my HD2 has turned a new leaf altogether. I was on 2.13 prior to this (without the touch response fix posted here). After upgrading to the new ROM, the interface feels much more fluid and I am finally "enjoying" the phone (I've had it since release in the US).
My wife has an iPhone and the iPhone usage experience was always way superior. She was also never able to use my phone properly - kept bringing apps up by mistake or pressing soft buttons inadvertently. With the upgrade, however, all this has changed for the better. HD2 now has the same fluidity and all the UI improvements (over the iPhone) are finally showing their true color! I also used a friend's Android-based incredible a while back and it felt much faster and smoother in comparison to my HD2 but I am very, very happy with my HD2 now as it feels as responsive.
The only apps I have installed after the hard reboot the upgrade caused are CHT 1.8, Google Maps, Skype and Bing. No BSB, no Chainfire driver, no registry mods, etc. I'll likely stay this way but I am curious if Chainfire has made a difference for anyone.
So what has changed?
I am no expert but it seems like the video driver has received a significant upgrade. This is probably the reason why everything seems faster. E.g. with 2.13, the favorites in Opera/IE came up after a significant lag. This is a lot faster (although not instantaneous,as it should be).
Touch screen is a LOT more fluid and more accurate. Swype seems to be faster as well (I've set it to be more accurate than default). Web browsing is faster and more fluid. Apps launch more quickly. Scrolling Sense tabs is a lot faster and more fluid. My largish collection of music also loads faster on the Music tab (and I still have the same SD card). I can swipe through Outlook email previews noticeably faster now too! In short, everything I use on an hourly basis has improved.
No bugs so far (and no, I don't use SMS messaging much at all).
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So you're saying that CHT 1.8 works properly on the 3.14 ROM? Others have had problems with CHT after the upgrade, but I'm not sure I want to try to get by without it.
Hey guys,
I broought a desire z nam (Bell mobility branded) over the holidays. This is my first android device, so after a month of using it, I finally feel like I have my bearings for the platform (I'm coming from symbian). However, I have a few questions:
When I brought the phone, it came unlocked (I'm using it on AT&T's network in the US. Does this mean the phone has already been rooted? Is there an easy way I can check on this?
Since I am using the phone on at&t network, how will updates work for me? Is it possible for me to get any OTA updates? Or am I restricted to custom roms for updates? I am a little hesitant to use custom roms, as I need this phone to be reliable above all else, and I keep hearing about how unstable some of those roms can be.
What exactly is Cyberon Voice Commander? I always see it hogging a huge amount of memory in my running apps, and I'm wondering if its one of the base apps included with android. Searching around, it seems that it is used for speech to text, so if I remove it, will voice seach and voice actions no longer work?
Speaking of running apps, is it normal to have 50+ apps running at the same time? This phone boots with a ton of apps already running, and a lot of them seem like system processes. The phone does feel sluggish at time; however, this being my first and only android device, I don't really have a good reference to whether this is normal or not.
The touchscreen seems off. It always tends to register touches slighty above or below where my finger hits (super annoying when you're trying to select something on a list) is there any way to calibrate the screen?
On the subject of screens, is there a way to activate the screen other than pressing the power button? That button is a bit hard to reach for me, especially with 1 hhand operation
Htcsense.com doesn't seem to be working for me. It can't locate my phone, making the phone ring doesn't do anything, and I don't see the menu bar up top. Anyone know what's up with it?
And finally, I'm trying to find a good chinese handwriting input method; the phone comes with pinyin and wubihua input methods on the default htc keyboard, but no handwriting reconginition. The only app I found on the market for it is terrrible at picking up my strokes (HanWriting IME), can anyone recommend anything for it?
Thanks a bunch
I have the same device running on ATT as well.
The phone does not come 'rooted' even if it is an unlocked version. Root allows you to write to the 'OS Partition' on the phone memory in addition to other things. To check if you have root, you need to boot into the recovery mode of the phone. The first line in recovery will read either S-OFF (root obtained) or S-ON (no root). I suggest reading up on 'GFREE' and using that method to obtain root. Visionary is also an option, but doesn't appear to be as 'safe' as GFREE.
As far as I know, we are on our own for OTA updates. I have been using Custom ROMs on my device since about day 3 of owning it and it was the best decision I have made. I currently run CyanogenMod 6.1 and it runs great. Much better than stock. It is VERY stable and I haven't had any issues, everything is working. They are currently developing CyanogenMod 7 (Android 2.3) but it not officially released as stable version yet.
I am not familiar with that Voice Commander app. Check Google.
I don't have 50+ apps running but do have quite a few. Froyo 2.2 (shipped on phone with HTC Sense Skin) is designed to automatically shut down applications that are not being used so they do not eat up system resources. I didn't use stock for long, so I can't say how it performs but I have no lag issues with Cyanogen.
I do recall a 'calibration' option on Stock, but again I didn't use it for long and can't remember where it was.
In Cyanogen mod you can wake up the screen by pressing the track pad. Search in the Themes and Apps section of the Desire Z/G2 forum and there is an application you can install that does the same thing. I think its called Trackpad Wake.
Sorry never used HTCsense.com or any chinese writing apps. For the writing app, you can check the Android Themes/Applications thread from the main forum page. There are lots of other apps discussed there that are no in the Desire Z forum.
Welcome to Android!
Some good answer in the post above. Just to add some additional info:
The Vision Wiki describes how to verify root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
But your phone is likely not rooted. When you buy a phone unlocked, that usually means SIM unlocked, so you can use other SIM cards besides Bell. Cell phone dealers usually just have ways to get the SIM unlock codes for phones, same as the paid SIM unlock services you find on eBay and other places.
All ROMs have bugs, including the "official" ones. In my experience, the custom ROMs usually are more stable and less bugs than the official ones they are based on. In any case, I wouldn't worry too much about OTA updates. If you want to flash an official ROM, they get posted on here faster then you would get them OTA.
I just checked, and I have exactly 50 apps running on my Bell Desire Z (running on AT&T like you). I wouldn't worry about it. As mentioned in the previous reply, Android is designed to keep processes open in the background until the memory is needed, then it kills idle processes as needed.
I've never used a Symbian phone. But the Desire Z is one of the fastest Android phones currently on the market. It gets bogged down a bit by the Sense UI in some conditions (especially if you have lots of widgets loaded). But this is minor, and I have found the performance to be very good overall. If you want some more speed, you can root and overclock the CPU. Overclocking to 1 GHz does not even increase voltage to the CPU, so the effect on battery life and risk is minimal.
HTCSense.com is still a work in progress, unfortunately. The features not working is normal, its not just you.
Cyberon Voice Commander is bloatware pre-installed by Bell. Its supposed to allow you to command the phone (with your voice, obviously) without having to touch the screen to perform certain functions (call or find a contact, play a song, etc.). But its pretty useless, and pure crap, IMO. Even when it recognizes your command, it will often still require touch input to make the selection, which completely defeats the purpose! Its faster to just access the functions the normal way.
Bloatware is part of the ROM, and therefore not completely straightforward to remove. All methods require the phone be rooted, AFAIK. The following thread has a method (using Titanium Backup) to remove most of the bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831584
I've also found a paid app ($1.99) on the market called Absolute System Root Tool removes the bloatware successfully
As mentioned, there is a hack to make the trackpad button wake the phone. But I couldn't tell if the feature could be removed or turned off, so I haven't tried it yet, personally.
Aha, a fellow Symbian convert! Welcome to the greatest phone ever - like an N97 that doesn't suck. I used to run Symbian-Guru.com - please feel free to PM me with *any* questions, I still love to help folks.
I would *highly* suggest you root your phone, if for no other reason than to dump the bloatware that comes with it and be able to take screenshots and that sort of thing. You may also want to look at the Virtuous ROM - it's a port of the Desire Z ROM that has some extras built-in. I've been using it on my G2 pretty much since I got it and it's fan-freakin-tastic. I easily get 12-15hrs of battery life, and that's with normal usage. It also has trackpad wake built right in - it's awesome.
Most of your other questions were answered above. In any case, welcome to XDA, and to Android.
Thanks for the replies. I'm loving the phone so far; just there's a lot of quirks in android that I'm not used to. That's to be expected with any transition to a different os, so I'm sure ill adapt.
you mentioned offical roms are also posted there as well; will flashing those roms require S-OFF? I might be in the minority, but I actually like senseUI. The only thing I wish I could change would be replacing the customization button on the dock with a browser shortcut. I've tried adw and launcherpro, but everytime I end up missing the htc widgets and going back to sense.
Ill probably start looking into some custom roms. I'm really holding out for the offical 2.3 update though. Ill also have to find a way to revert to the original rom should I not like the new one. I can't seem to find a copy of the original rom from bell to download anywhere; so is titanium backup my only option? Finally if I flash in a new rom, (offical or custom) will I lose my carrier unlock?
Thanks
Before you flash any different ROM you should do what is called a "nandroid" backup of your current ROM via Clockwork Recovery/ROM Manager (which you can install once you have root and S-OFF).
No, flashing a different ROM will not lose your SIM unlock.
If you have SuperCID from gfree, then you will be able to flash different official ROMs, not just the Bell one.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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Please hit the "thanks" button on the responses that were helpful to you. So those of use that took the time to answer can increase their thanks meters!
You're not completely alone. I like Sense also! FYI, the Virtuous ROM recommended by orange bandit is a custom one built on the Sense UI. Although I'm probably going to wait until a Gingerbread Sense ROM myself.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm loving the phone so far; just there's a lot of quirks in android that I'm not used to. That's to be expected with any transition to a different os, so I'm sure ill adapt.
you mentioned offical roms are also posted there as well; will flashing those roms require S-OFF? I might be in the minority, but I actually like senseUI. The only thing I wish I could change would be replacing the customization button on the dock with a browser shortcut. I've tried adw and launcherpro, but everytime I end up missing the htc widgets and going back to sense.
Ill probably start looking into some custom roms. I'm really holding out for the offical 2.3 update though. Ill also have to find a way to revert to the original rom should I not like the new one. I can't seem to find a copy of the original rom from bell to download anywhere; so is titanium backup my only option? Finally if I flash in a new rom, (offical or custom) will I lose my carrier unlock?
Thanks
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The Virtuous ROM is basically the same as what you're running now, but fully rooted with some improvements here and there (trackpad wake, a bit of overclocking, etc).
There is a Rosie hack to be able to replace the right dock button with whatever you want, here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876464
I did it on my Virtuous ROM, works great, though I couldn't stand the simplicity of Sense and went back to LauncherPro, myself.