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Why is one handed use so important?

No, seriously. I've been wondering this for a while now.
I have big hands, so I almost never used my previous phone with one hand. I usually used the index finger of my other hand to touch everything. The only time this was kind of an issue is if I was eating, and I would often just use my little finger of my other hand since i was holding something.
So I have to admit, it blows my mind when someone sees all the pluses of the Note and their dealbreaker is 'can't use one hand easily? No sale'. What's that all about? I can kind of understand that people are just used to typing with one hand. (and someone to come out with a custom keyboard to fix that).
I can understand rejecting the Note because it doesn't fit in your pocket, or because it's too expensive. That's fine - expected even.
But rejecting the Note because you can't say, reach the notification bar with your thumb? What?
- Frank
P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.

I don't have a frigging clue. I haven't used my phone with a single hand only since my Nokia 5800... People will say all kinds of weird stuff against things they're not used to.

Because it makes it harder for women to put their makeup on in the morning while texting and driving down the road.

In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
Ha ha, I actually can use it one handed just about as well as the other phones I've recently used, including the GSII, so no problem with the above activities. My favorite way to browse the web is to hold the phone in portrait orientation with one hand, between thumb and middle finger (thumb on bottom and middle finger on top) and use my index finger to scroll and click links. This works fine on the note; I'm not able to do this with larger tablets, and for this reason I don't use them much. I usually revert to two hands to type, but do so with any size phone, as I prefer Swype.

Because you hold your ciggie on your left hand?

maxh said:
In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
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Lol! Jokes apart, I actually can use it single handedly. Only typing the leftmost column of alphabets can be slightly uncomfortable, albeit do-able...
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i can reach the notification bar with one finger
In terms of screen size, it's not THAT big

I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about the need for one-handed use, quite simply there at tines I need to use the phone and only have one hand free such as about ten minutes ago when walking the dog. That said I do find I can generally use the Note one-handed but it just needs slightly different positioning.

One handed use is a requirement for me as well, as the poster above me said, there are just to many times when I only have one hand to pull of a quick tid bit of information. If it was not important, I'd stick with the 7" form factor.

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P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.
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Funny you should say that, we have an ipad2 and Ive never touched it since the note came. This is definitely a replacement for a tablet, as I have proved to myself...
The only thing better with the ipad2 is the smoothness, pinch to zoom especially.

Because one hand using is a thing of mobility.
In my opinion its not just to be able to reache the status bar with one hand its more then this. Sometimes youve only one hand free and the note doesnt feel safety in one hand, im tall (193) my hands are large but using it with one hand it always was uncomfortable...
I love the note for surfing but as a mobile device for every day its too big!

Since I've always used two hands for things like typing or browsing so, for me, the fact that I can hold the note in one hand and (forget about handwriting for now) hit the keyboard much more accurately and much faster with the S-Pen makes this phone that much more useful for me...

It´s kind of an odd question.
I too usually use the phone with both hands but sometimes its handy to have one hand free, so you can eat or hold a drink while you surf the web (or about any othe million things you can do with one hand).

I had a play with a demo one today. I could comfortably use it one handed. Though i apparently have big hands
It wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. But its certainly useful. Its generally the odd text, or a bit of browsing whilst eating a sandwich etc.

Walking the dog is an interesting example, hadn't thought of that one.
A pretty good reason came in another thread - so you can use it while standing on a bus/subway.
- Frank

Returning my Galaxy Note

I was really excited for GNote's release and grabed one from neweggs at $789 in a blink.
Having used it for three days, and tried really hard to persude myself, I finally decided to return it. just thought to share my 2 cents.
I am not in any bit concerned with hold it against my face to make phone call. It does look kind of strange, but I don't care.
to start with, I have perfect vision, and average size hand for a man. I can use Inspire 4.3 screen with one hand entirely and comfortably.
The main reason against GNote is the loose of single hand operation -- believe me, with GNote, you will need you both hands for 80% of normal operation if you are not one of NBA players. with your current phone, try to restrict you finger motion to its own side of screen, and you will see if you can live with it.
Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
Unlike larger tablet, which can be held by bezel, GNote's bezels are too thin to hold securely. two long sizes are too thin to hold. one size with buttons. the the only size is the top (speaker phone side), but also too thin to feel secure or not to actually touch screen with any motion.
But if GNote offers unqiue functions , I am more than willing to live with two-handed inconvenience, unfortuantely,
a). high resolution + large screen. I read magazine Zinio on my android, not to mention web browse etc. therefore I care a lot about clarity etc -- and I have perfect vision. but, the high resolution means nothing in practics. yes, it is more clear, but in the sametime, if I do not zoom in, I still can not read in Gnote, no difference from in Inspire 4G. yes, for Zinio reading, I can tell individual characters in GNote now, while in Inspire 4G, they are blur. but I still need to zoom in in GNote to actually read. in others words, the 5.3 inch size stll can not offer un-zoomed reading, the characters are just too small, inspite of how high the resolution is. Once zoomed in, I can see no difference between inspire 4g and GNote. The same for web browsing.
In 7 inch one such as nook color, I do not need to zoom in and can actually read entire page.
movie watch is a better experience in Gnote, but had to compare back to back to feel the different from 4.3 inch screen. not big benefit.
s-pen is a useful function and it works fairly well. in fact, my struggle of whether to keep GNote is not for the large screen but my desire for stylus. but there are only two apps that can effectively use it. and as a content consumption device, I don't see s-pen is so useful that I can live with the incovenicne of the two hand operation.
Again GNote is a novel product with unique features. I am sure many people will find its function worth all the inconvenience and cost. but for me, I will go back to my humble inspire 4G for now. If Samsung puts s-pen on a 4.5 inch screen device with same width of current 4.3 inch screen phone, it would be no brainer for me.

hhspiny said:
Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
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That's odd - maybe it's because I have bigger hands, but the note doesn't touch my little fingers at all, usually. my hands are kind of in a handshake position, with my fingers slightly extended.
The note rests against all my fingers - in landscape mode I might curl my index fingers around the top of the note.
- Frank

Yes the one handed operation is tougher but it's merely a very minor irritant compared to the many cool things I like about this device... One of them being size.

I can nearly use it one handed. Best way is to have one hand grip it while the other is used for typing our other tasks.
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?

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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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5150Joker said:
What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Then being restricted to using both hands to hold the Note is probably a good thing.
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rockky said:
Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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I wouldn't if you care anything about the $700+ device in your hand. Walking around using your phone in one hand while your carrying and doing things with the other is the reason so many people drop their phones. One user on this board has already shown how the screen on his Note shattered when he dropped his.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338544&highlight=car
If you want one handed operation for the Note while sitting at your desk then get the Samsung dock.

Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
With that said, im just a normal sized dude and i can quite comfortably use mine with 1 hand in all the same use scenarios as with my nexus s. Even with my nexus s i naturally wanted two hands for some things, and of course i still do with my note, but its not as if i feel i need 3 hands, as if this were the case it'd obviously become a problem

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Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
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Now that was funny!

I *can* use the Note one-handed (I can wrap my hand around the Note and my thumb and "gesture" finger can just about touch), but I prefer, as has been mentioned in this thread, holding it with one and operating it with another.

yeh I find it quite annoying to not be able to use it with one hand.
especially when i am in public transport and have to hold onto something with the other hand. Its usually in public transport that I have to take my phone out and kill time too so thats really annoying.
So i can either use my note with one hand and risk dropping it, or i can use it with both hands and drop myself

So were you allowed to return it? I also saw that only exchanges are allowed on newegg for the Note. I was going to purchase mine at newegg but saw it cheaper on eBay.
I have no second thoughts about returning. This screen is just right for me web browsing, gaming, and watching videos.
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If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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So by your logic "better" isnt for everyone!?

Go big or go home....kidding aside, op is having buyer regrets and is rationalizing the return. Let the man/woman do as he/she wishes. But one advantage to having a high resolution device is it's ability to fit more information on the screen at one time, of course it'll look the same if it s zoom in.
Sent from my note

Let me know if you want to sell it

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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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he means the width of current 4.3 inch phones, not 4.3inch width
A different aspect ratio, like 16:9 instead of 16:10
The width of a 16:10 4.3" phone is around 2.28 inches

Why are people so concerned about using one hand. If you must use one hand then this phone is not for you, buy a smaller one. simple

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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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Width of a phone with 4.3" screen. Thinner Bezel lets 4.5" screen fit where 4.3" did before.
I hear the OP's thoughts loud and clear. I thought long and hard the first few days I was using mine and wondered if I wouldn't be happier going back to a 4.3" device. The GSII is really a great device and I love its thinness and light weight; one handed browsing in bed is great, holding it between thumb and middle finger with thumb on bottom and middle finger on top, and fore finger used for navigation and link clicking.
Turns out I can effectively do this with the Note as well. And I actually do use the larger, higher res screen. 1/2 to 2/3 of the time I actually browse the web NOT zoomed in. It's just barely large enough for me to browse without zooming in. A higher res 4.3" or 4.6" screen would be tempting (galaxy nexus...) but I think I'd still have to zoom in for comfortable viewing.
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus for my girlfriend (the international version and put her in straight talk, not the lame ass locked down Verizon version) and switch phones with her for awhile, but I'll probably be fiending for my Note before long.

Running with the Note

Dumb question perhaps, but I haven't had the chance to actually get my hands on a demo. Is the Note too big to comfortably carry with you while running?

Baaj,
I've had the GNote for the past 10 days and yes, it is big. People always gawk and stare at me and inevitably will pass a comment on its size.
But really, it's apparently the in-thing to go big. Big homes, big cars, big watches etc. I absolutely love this phone especially for its screen size and don't intend to be intimidated by these guys who don't know the value of having such great screen real estate.
Having said all the above, and I have to say that running with it may cause you problems. But to me, it's more because of my concern for the device itself. With such a size, you may find it difficult to care for it well enough. It'll be bouncing around and may even fall off and that is the main problem.
My advice... Get an iPod Nano for the running, and and keep the Note for every other thing out there.
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I have not seen armbands for the Note yet, but as long as your arms are not super skinny, just use a armband.
The Nano or shuffle is a great idea too.
Have you taken a look at the MotoACTV?(expensive, but awesome!)
I use a BT headset at the gym and just least the note nearby(small gym)
But when I run I use my oldschool 1st gen ipod shuffle. I loaded it up with my fav tracks already, and I just loose myself when I run anyway....I don't want to be distracted by text's for facebook updates untill after I finish my run. Otherwise I get distracted and slow to a walk while I try and reply to a message"real fast". It totally those it off.
Now if you want to use those running apps to track your run that's different.

I have the exact same dilemma and concerns, so much so, that I was considering settling for the galaxy nexus and all its shortcomings just because it seems a little easier to hold. We'll have to use armbands, I wonder if they'll work though..
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I've been running with my Gnote since I've had it. I bought an Aquapac (large arm band) and it works well, did a 9 mile run with it the other day, just needs the arm band modding a bit for my skinny runners arms. I also use a backpack for my longer runs and it fits perfectly in the front mesh pocket.
And you can't beat running new trails using the ViewRanger app on that big screen.
Cheers
Andrew

Hey there, I go running a fair bit and was a apprehensive as you about the size of the Note for this.
Luckily I have a running jacket that has an inside pocket pretty much exactly the same size as the Note is. When it is in there ... yes you can feel it but it really isn't THAT much heavier than my HTC Desire that I used to run with.
I wouldn't like to have it on an armband or anything like that though, so if I didn't have my jacket then I wouldn't be too sure of what to use.
I thought about getting a second hand wildfire or something to use just for my running, as I use Adidas Micoach and like the GPS coaching etc on it.

I wanted to be able to listen to music whilst tracking my run with run keeper!
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If you worried of size, buy s2... Will be a Wise decision
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Not toI sure about running, but I cycle about 5 kms every day with the note in my pocket. Barely feel it... But when I'm wearing shorts, I put it in a bag, because it juts out of the pocket and might fall off anytime...
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Now if you want to use those running apps to track your run that's different.
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Nail on the head, my friend. I would really miss this if I had go back to just a regular mp3 player.

I would say that it is possible. Before I ran with the Dell Streak in a book type case which protected the screen, back, sides and I used to just hold it in my hand.
Conclusion:
Yes you can, but invest in a good case or one of those arm bands like Andrew U.K. has and you will be fine.
Have fun!

How you feel about Galaxy Note's size

Hi, I got my Note today and it feels very big in my hands, I'm coming from T-Mobile GS2.
Did you guys get conferable after a while with the size?
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I have pretty large hands, and the note feels perfect in them. Everything else just feels too small now.
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I love it, and the size is perfect. It fits my shirt and pant pockets. The only issue is that my thumb doesn't quite reach the other side of the screen at times... gets sore haha.

Yes! Stick with it. I also have a skyrocket which is the same size as your phone. The more you use the GNote, the more you will get used to its size. Give it a few weeks. Everything else else will feel small after that time!

Came from HTC HD2 4.3"
Love this 5.3" Galaxy Note.
Comfortable with it and real good as a phone & mini Tablet.

Its feel GOOOOOODDDDDDD!!!!!!!
(^___________^)
♥♡♥♡♥♡♥
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Hi, I got my Note today and it feels very big in my hands, I'm coming from T-Mobile GS2.
Did you guys get conferable after a while with the size?
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My hands are probably smaller than average and so it felt a bit big in my hands at first. Within a few days I'd gotten totally used to it, and holding my HD2 then felt very strange!
Pockets were fine from day one.
Hang in there and it'll be fine

Surprisingly comfortable using the big sized note. I think the size has been exagerated a little
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I love it but to say it feels normal or good in the hand as a cellphone is nuts. Its freagin big you either can deal with it or not.

Thanx for all of you for replying my brother's. I was already thinking what have I done
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This screen eats all the screens. I got the Galaxy nexus last week and I didn't like it. The screen was yellow and narrow. So I sold it.
This NOTE has the best screen period! For now.
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This is one of the nicest pentile displays. I miss the clean LCD looks of the SAMOLED+ display, but the viewing angle of the Note display is amazing! I was afraid it would get greenish or purple at extreme angles.
Overall, this is a great balance between phone and tablet. I intend to turn this thing into a little computer.
Eagerly waiting for CM7 or CM9.

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I love it but to say it feels normal or good in the hand as a cellphone is nuts.
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In what way does the phone feel unusual/bad in your hands as a cellphone?
Dialing numbers? Just curious.
I got used to the size almost immediately - but then again, I'm not really a one handed phone user. If you are, the new 'one handed dialpad/keyboard' in the recent firmwares might be useful.
- Frank

it didn't feel weird when i first bought it (2 weeks ago) but it was different. now everything else feels smaller, i own an ipod so after using my phone and then when i go to my ipod to play games it feels super small. only sad thing about the phone is the keyboard is f'ing annoying, i tried tumblring on my phone and like a million mistakes whereas my ipod doesn't make such mistakes but the screen is too small to post long posts so i finally changed the keyboard to smart keyboard which i think is the best
Any still using original Samsung keyboard????

Like the rest here, everything else feels small after using the Note! With it's HD screen and slim design, it blows everything away.

It's a lot easier than carrying an iPad around everywhere.

People say to me its massive, I honestly don't notice anymore. Its perfect. You soon forget.. I do remember the first time I held it. I thought omg!! Huge! Lol..
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My previous phone was a dell streak 5" (with mugen battery 4800mah). GSN is 3x faster, 2x lighter and smaller dimensions than streak. Fantastic!

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I read someone else say that when you get used to the size that you can't do without it. He was right. The phone is huge. After a couple of weeks its no big deal. But the advantages of the big screen becomes normal and you couldn't do without it.
So give it a couple of weeks and see how you go. If its no good then maybe the soon to be released 4.6" Sony Xperia Ion with narrower 16:9 screen will suit better. Or Galaxy Nexus if you can live without SDHC expansion.
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I remember when I upgraded my HTC Desire S to SGSII that it fell so big and I had a hand ache for a week. The same happened with Note - it takes week to get used to it but after that (as for others), everything else looks small and Note seems like normal phone to me.
But there's one thing - gel transparent S cover (mine is red). I had it on my SGS2 ans I bought it for note also, because those phone are so thick and light and yet so Smith, that it feels uncomfortable to hold them - I always feel that they sooner or later slip and fall from my hand.
The S cover has rough sides, so it feels better and it prevent the phone from sliding on the table also. Another thing is, that it has little edges over the display (it's 1mm thicker thanbthe phone, so if you put your phone on the table display down, it sits on the rubber edge ans not the display itself.
Try it for yourself
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Uncomfortable to hold for long periods

Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.

Vibrate said:
Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
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Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.

perez6991 said:
Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
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Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:

gagan313 said:
Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.

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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Thanks very much for that... Really helped.

I just ordered a case that's designed for the HP slate extreme. Cost me $12. Its a stand and cover and should fix the uncomfortable ergonomics. I'll post a review when it gets here tomorrow.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.

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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:

gagan313 said:
HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.

Vibrate said:
Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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I think I understand where you are coming from from the fingers side... However i dont really think NVIDIA though the case through properly lol....Only for watching movies and drawing etc.. (Hands free sort of thing.... Although I play on it everyday xD)