No, seriously. I've been wondering this for a while now.
I have big hands, so I almost never used my previous phone with one hand. I usually used the index finger of my other hand to touch everything. The only time this was kind of an issue is if I was eating, and I would often just use my little finger of my other hand since i was holding something.
So I have to admit, it blows my mind when someone sees all the pluses of the Note and their dealbreaker is 'can't use one hand easily? No sale'. What's that all about? I can kind of understand that people are just used to typing with one hand. (and someone to come out with a custom keyboard to fix that).
I can understand rejecting the Note because it doesn't fit in your pocket, or because it's too expensive. That's fine - expected even.
But rejecting the Note because you can't say, reach the notification bar with your thumb? What?
- Frank
P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.
I don't have a frigging clue. I haven't used my phone with a single hand only since my Nokia 5800... People will say all kinds of weird stuff against things they're not used to.
Because it makes it harder for women to put their makeup on in the morning while texting and driving down the road.
In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
Ha ha, I actually can use it one handed just about as well as the other phones I've recently used, including the GSII, so no problem with the above activities. My favorite way to browse the web is to hold the phone in portrait orientation with one hand, between thumb and middle finger (thumb on bottom and middle finger on top) and use my index finger to scroll and click links. This works fine on the note; I'm not able to do this with larger tablets, and for this reason I don't use them much. I usually revert to two hands to type, but do so with any size phone, as I prefer Swype.
Because you hold your ciggie on your left hand?
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In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
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Lol! Jokes apart, I actually can use it single handedly. Only typing the leftmost column of alphabets can be slightly uncomfortable, albeit do-able...
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i can reach the notification bar with one finger
In terms of screen size, it's not THAT big
I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about the need for one-handed use, quite simply there at tines I need to use the phone and only have one hand free such as about ten minutes ago when walking the dog. That said I do find I can generally use the Note one-handed but it just needs slightly different positioning.
One handed use is a requirement for me as well, as the poster above me said, there are just to many times when I only have one hand to pull of a quick tid bit of information. If it was not important, I'd stick with the 7" form factor.
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P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.
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Funny you should say that, we have an ipad2 and Ive never touched it since the note came. This is definitely a replacement for a tablet, as I have proved to myself...
The only thing better with the ipad2 is the smoothness, pinch to zoom especially.
Because one hand using is a thing of mobility.
In my opinion its not just to be able to reache the status bar with one hand its more then this. Sometimes youve only one hand free and the note doesnt feel safety in one hand, im tall (193) my hands are large but using it with one hand it always was uncomfortable...
I love the note for surfing but as a mobile device for every day its too big!
Since I've always used two hands for things like typing or browsing so, for me, the fact that I can hold the note in one hand and (forget about handwriting for now) hit the keyboard much more accurately and much faster with the S-Pen makes this phone that much more useful for me...
It´s kind of an odd question.
I too usually use the phone with both hands but sometimes its handy to have one hand free, so you can eat or hold a drink while you surf the web (or about any othe million things you can do with one hand).
I had a play with a demo one today. I could comfortably use it one handed. Though i apparently have big hands
It wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. But its certainly useful. Its generally the odd text, or a bit of browsing whilst eating a sandwich etc.
Walking the dog is an interesting example, hadn't thought of that one.
A pretty good reason came in another thread - so you can use it while standing on a bus/subway.
- Frank
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I know there are plenty of threads about G2 hinge issues, but I'd like to know about your Desire-Z keyboard hinges now that it has shipped.
I've just received my second Desire-Z this morning and it's probably worse than the first one. If pick up the phone, absolutely horizontal, from a table just by holding the upper section, the keyboard just falls half-open. Surely it shouldn't be like this? Here's a quick youtube video I took of my first phone:
Just wondering if I've been really unlucky, or are they basically all like this? I really hope not...
Andre
Mine does exactly the same. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm not very happy with it.
My other concern is that the screen wobbles back and forth when I have the phone closed if I tap on the left and right edges.
I think this is probably a design flaw rather than a specific device problem. You'll probably find they're all the same
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Cant quite tell what the angle is in the video.
If I pick up mine by just the top piece then it droops, but doesn't slide out.
If I hold it upside-down by the base it droops, but can't slide.
Whenever I pick up the phone though I hold it by the base, so in normal use it's perfectly fine.
I'm basically assuming that the spring should be just strong enough for the phone to hold itself together (i.e. without the keyboard dropping away at all) when it is gently lifted up from a flat surface. That's the benchmark I would want to see anyway, and neither of mine will do that.
I might take this up with HTC and see what their view on it is - I just hope they don't do an Apple and patronisingly say "you're holding it the wrong way".
Andre
I've just sent off an email to superEtrader asking for a refund as I'm not happy.
I hope they take it back without any hassle since their website says I can't return it if its been opened. Someone on here kindly pointed out the Distance Selling Regulations say I can open it and play with it (I have the PDF stored on my PC!), but I don't want to have that sort of hassle.
my phone has the same problem as the video.
Also, the screen slides down when im lying down, holding the phone by the keyboard.
My phone isnt quite a loose as in the video, but it does droop if I pick it up by the top section rather than the base & also if I am lying down and hold by keyboard it will start to shut... I kinda expected to have a loose hinge based on reviews that I had seen for G2 & at this point its only a very minor niggle, so I wont do any return until I find out there are Desire Zs out there that actually have a firm hinge.
On another note, I noticed yesterday that the black backing of the keyboard is a bit bubbly.. Im hoping that the backing wont start coming away down the road... but I guess only time will tell.
I found it hard to do what was shown on video, I never grabbed phone like this before. It never opened on its own even slightly. Also owned TP2 and never held it by the screen. I dont think people would actually ever hold it like that.
No offense to anyone, I just dont see any issues with my hinge. I know it opens when I hold it like on video or upside down, but If I havent read some posts, I would never try it.
This is just my personal opinion on the "hinges"
The design is for the way we hold and use our phones.. I feel for you bro, but noone holds their phone at the angle your showing this at..
I have had no problem at all yet with the everyday use of this beast)
JD
Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.
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Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.
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QUOTE:Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position:END QUOTE
I could not have put it better myself....
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I think I'll just keep mine until we get confirmation that better-designed Desire Zs have been produced. The replacement is from HTC and not my supplier, so I should be able to do it at any time during the next 2 years... right?
Mine is pretty solid - I even text in bed and it doesn't fall. I have opened the keyboard once or twice by accident, which is quite funny..
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I have already gone through two DZ's and both have the "weak" hinge. Thankfully mine does not do what is shown in the Video in post #1, thats definitely a defect in my opinion. Just to compare notes on a relative basis here is what mine does.
When the phone is closed I turn it sideways (landscape) lift it from the bottom and then press on the left and right edges with my thumbs. The screen snaps nicely into place. If I then grap the device by the top two corners of the screen and lift it straight up and hold it perfectly horizontally the keyboard drops down. However, if I lift it up at a slight angle the keyboard remains "attached" to the screen. It seems as though there is a magnet of some kind holding it in place.
I instinctively hold it with forefingers and thumb to type much as I do on my Motorola Milestone which slides straight up and down and has no "hinge".
As for lying on my back and typing in Bed if I just hold the bottom portion keyboard along then the screen drops down. HOWEVER that is an extremely awkward way to type for anyone I would imagine.
The question is, did HTC design it to work in this way knowing that people "instinctively" do these types of actions in this way?? I am not sure they conduct such a detailed ergonomic study. There are people that have no hinge issues at all, but unless they apply specific tests as I did here it would be difficult to know if they are experiencing similar problems. If they are doing what comes naturally and holding it as nature intended then they would not deem that there are any problems.
Just my two cents.
This is worse than the "Is my trackpad wobbling?!" threads on CrackBerry. It's supposed to be loose so you can open it with one finger, according to HTC. If you don't like it, take it back (you can definitely get a refund, since it's only been out like 4 days or whatever) and get a new phone. Seriously. You want a stiff slide, get a Milestone, then you have nothing to complain about.
Bought 2 today, they're (identically!) quite loose. I was really worried before buying that I'm gonna get the 'loose one' but to be honest it's not an issue as it's a very weird way to hold your phone and like others said you instinctively hold the device with your thumb and index fingers as that's where they end up when you open the phone. Furthermore, if opened and held vertically just by the bottom, the top part stays in place and only drops down at ~40 deg angle, so unless you text a lot in bed while holding the phone upside down and holding it just by the bottom bit, you won't have a problem. If I lift it up like in the video (it's actually quite an effort) the parts will separate.
Yeah, mine is the same, but dont know why people are making such a big fuss on it, why not for example make a big fuss on the speaker quality instead?
Yeah the speaker is ****, its the one thing that is crap with this phone...
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Did you ever think choosing a phone would be like choosing a girlfriend. At least with the Desire Z you can test it out in the shop to see if its loose before getting it home and having a nasty surprise lol XD
I never knew I had a hinge problem until I watched the videos. Some people have way to much time on their hands.
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I was really excited for GNote's release and grabed one from neweggs at $789 in a blink.
Having used it for three days, and tried really hard to persude myself, I finally decided to return it. just thought to share my 2 cents.
I am not in any bit concerned with hold it against my face to make phone call. It does look kind of strange, but I don't care.
to start with, I have perfect vision, and average size hand for a man. I can use Inspire 4.3 screen with one hand entirely and comfortably.
The main reason against GNote is the loose of single hand operation -- believe me, with GNote, you will need you both hands for 80% of normal operation if you are not one of NBA players. with your current phone, try to restrict you finger motion to its own side of screen, and you will see if you can live with it.
Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
Unlike larger tablet, which can be held by bezel, GNote's bezels are too thin to hold securely. two long sizes are too thin to hold. one size with buttons. the the only size is the top (speaker phone side), but also too thin to feel secure or not to actually touch screen with any motion.
But if GNote offers unqiue functions , I am more than willing to live with two-handed inconvenience, unfortuantely,
a). high resolution + large screen. I read magazine Zinio on my android, not to mention web browse etc. therefore I care a lot about clarity etc -- and I have perfect vision. but, the high resolution means nothing in practics. yes, it is more clear, but in the sametime, if I do not zoom in, I still can not read in Gnote, no difference from in Inspire 4G. yes, for Zinio reading, I can tell individual characters in GNote now, while in Inspire 4G, they are blur. but I still need to zoom in in GNote to actually read. in others words, the 5.3 inch size stll can not offer un-zoomed reading, the characters are just too small, inspite of how high the resolution is. Once zoomed in, I can see no difference between inspire 4g and GNote. The same for web browsing.
In 7 inch one such as nook color, I do not need to zoom in and can actually read entire page.
movie watch is a better experience in Gnote, but had to compare back to back to feel the different from 4.3 inch screen. not big benefit.
s-pen is a useful function and it works fairly well. in fact, my struggle of whether to keep GNote is not for the large screen but my desire for stylus. but there are only two apps that can effectively use it. and as a content consumption device, I don't see s-pen is so useful that I can live with the incovenicne of the two hand operation.
Again GNote is a novel product with unique features. I am sure many people will find its function worth all the inconvenience and cost. but for me, I will go back to my humble inspire 4G for now. If Samsung puts s-pen on a 4.5 inch screen device with same width of current 4.3 inch screen phone, it would be no brainer for me.
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Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
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That's odd - maybe it's because I have bigger hands, but the note doesn't touch my little fingers at all, usually. my hands are kind of in a handshake position, with my fingers slightly extended.
The note rests against all my fingers - in landscape mode I might curl my index fingers around the top of the note.
- Frank
Yes the one handed operation is tougher but it's merely a very minor irritant compared to the many cool things I like about this device... One of them being size.
I can nearly use it one handed. Best way is to have one hand grip it while the other is used for typing our other tasks.
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Then being restricted to using both hands to hold the Note is probably a good thing.
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Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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I wouldn't if you care anything about the $700+ device in your hand. Walking around using your phone in one hand while your carrying and doing things with the other is the reason so many people drop their phones. One user on this board has already shown how the screen on his Note shattered when he dropped his.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338544&highlight=car
If you want one handed operation for the Note while sitting at your desk then get the Samsung dock.
Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
With that said, im just a normal sized dude and i can quite comfortably use mine with 1 hand in all the same use scenarios as with my nexus s. Even with my nexus s i naturally wanted two hands for some things, and of course i still do with my note, but its not as if i feel i need 3 hands, as if this were the case it'd obviously become a problem
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Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
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Now that was funny!
I *can* use the Note one-handed (I can wrap my hand around the Note and my thumb and "gesture" finger can just about touch), but I prefer, as has been mentioned in this thread, holding it with one and operating it with another.
yeh I find it quite annoying to not be able to use it with one hand.
especially when i am in public transport and have to hold onto something with the other hand. Its usually in public transport that I have to take my phone out and kill time too so thats really annoying.
So i can either use my note with one hand and risk dropping it, or i can use it with both hands and drop myself
So were you allowed to return it? I also saw that only exchanges are allowed on newegg for the Note. I was going to purchase mine at newegg but saw it cheaper on eBay.
I have no second thoughts about returning. This screen is just right for me web browsing, gaming, and watching videos.
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If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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So by your logic "better" isnt for everyone!?
Go big or go home....kidding aside, op is having buyer regrets and is rationalizing the return. Let the man/woman do as he/she wishes. But one advantage to having a high resolution device is it's ability to fit more information on the screen at one time, of course it'll look the same if it s zoom in.
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Let me know if you want to sell it
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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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he means the width of current 4.3 inch phones, not 4.3inch width
A different aspect ratio, like 16:9 instead of 16:10
The width of a 16:10 4.3" phone is around 2.28 inches
Why are people so concerned about using one hand. If you must use one hand then this phone is not for you, buy a smaller one. simple
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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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Width of a phone with 4.3" screen. Thinner Bezel lets 4.5" screen fit where 4.3" did before.
I hear the OP's thoughts loud and clear. I thought long and hard the first few days I was using mine and wondered if I wouldn't be happier going back to a 4.3" device. The GSII is really a great device and I love its thinness and light weight; one handed browsing in bed is great, holding it between thumb and middle finger with thumb on bottom and middle finger on top, and fore finger used for navigation and link clicking.
Turns out I can effectively do this with the Note as well. And I actually do use the larger, higher res screen. 1/2 to 2/3 of the time I actually browse the web NOT zoomed in. It's just barely large enough for me to browse without zooming in. A higher res 4.3" or 4.6" screen would be tempting (galaxy nexus...) but I think I'd still have to zoom in for comfortable viewing.
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus for my girlfriend (the international version and put her in straight talk, not the lame ass locked down Verizon version) and switch phones with her for awhile, but I'll probably be fiending for my Note before long.
Everybody says it's almost impossible to use the phone with one hand, so can there be a little app that shows the android on a portion of the screen, about 4" on the right side? Or at least the basic quick funtions, wich in my case are Call/Message/Camera?
Of course this would be acessed by a shortcut in the lockscreen on the right down side of the screen.
Also is there a camera app that shoots through sound trigger?
And another ideia for a case, in wich you would a cloth-rubber like feel, a rubber so you could have enough friction, and a cloth like so it would fold a little trough your fingers when you pull the back of the case one handed, thus giving a lot of grip.
Would be awesome, probably ain't gonna see this anyway.
Thoughts?
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Everybody says it's almost impossible to use the phone with one hand, so can there be a little app that shows the android on a portion of the screen, about 4" on the right side? Or at least the basic quick funtions, wich in my case are Call/Message/Camera?
Of course this would be acessed by a shortcut in the lockscreen on the right down side of the screen.
Also is there a camera app that shoots through sound trigger?
And another ideia for a case, in wich you would a cloth-rubber like feel, a rubber so you could have enough friction, and a cloth like so it would fold a little trough your fingers when you pull the back of the case one handed, thus giving a lot of grip.
Would be awesome, probably ain't gonna see this anyway.
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There's nothing to stop you putting phone/message/whatever icons on the left side of the phone. That's what I do. Putting the entire android screen on a shrunken portion of the phone totally defeats the purpose of the note.
You want a screen this big, you have to expect to sometimes need to use it two handed. If you don't want a screen this big since you require full time one handed use, then don't get the note. It's a very fair reason for not wanting the Note.
Cases with flaps, or stuff like the flygrip, or attaching a lanyard are all pretty useful attachments for using the phone one handed. The one handed keyboard helps too.
- Frank
I love the idea of a voice activated camera. I hate having to press that button, and my hands are quite large.
ChodTheWacko said:
You want a screen this big, you have to expect to sometimes need to use it two handed. If you don't want a screen this big since you require full time one handed use, then don't get the note. It's a very fair reason for not wanting the Note.
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It would be just for time to time, in my job I carry a clipboard all around, and can't afford to just drop it anywhere, I'm still on the transition stage on my way to go all digital. And while I'm walking around I need to make a phone call or just send an "OK" or another short message, in those case a small screen Note would be necessary, but after the message/call it would be fullscreen again. Just for quickies.
And thanks for the flygrip, will buy it when it becomes avaible on DX/Ebay.
Just to quell any concerns of soon-to-be owners: It can be done. It can be used with one hand. I'm not a giant (about 6'1", slightly above average) and I'm coming from a 4S, so I'm not used to huge phones. You literally just have to grab it differently than you would a tiny phone.
I don't understand why all reviewers grab this phone like a murder weapon, and grip the crap out of it - and then try to use their thumbs to grab the adjacent corner of the screen. Wtf? Of course that's not gonna work. I can reach the top corner, but I splay my fingers across the bottom of the phone for better control. I'm sure the people who really love this phone and use it as their daily drivers figured that out within the first day and are happy as can be.
Long live the big screen.
I agree, in the beginning I found that it was a bit difficult to handle even with my large hands but as soon as I got used to holding it "like I'm supposed to", which took me like ten minutes, using it with one hand has been a breeze!
Now it feels weird to hold smaller phones, I tend to try to clench them with just my palm.
Hahaha that's exactly what I was doing earlier. They do start to feel like tiny toys
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The size is not a problem for me using it with one hand, the only issue is my hand (or rather pinky) starts to hurt after a while holding it lol. Got used to the SGS2 too much I guess
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One handed use is not an issue.
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i think i may have to improve my dexterity on this one, lol.
But the thing is with smaller phone I can grip the other side with the 4 other fingers, while with my Note if I want to comfortably use it with one hand, my other 4 fingers can only slightly grab the back of the phone to allow my thumb to move comfortably (that is can reach the other side of the screen with my thumb), and I'm scared of dropping Note holding it like that
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Just to quell any concerns of soon-to-be owners: It can be done. It can be used with one hand. I'm not a giant (about 6'1", slightly above average) and I'm coming from a 4S, so I'm not used to huge phones. You literally just have to grab it differently than you would a tiny phone.
I don't understand why all reviewers grab this phone like a murder weapon, and grip the crap out of it - and then try to use their thumbs to grab the adjacent corner of the screen. Wtf? Of course that's not gonna work. I can reach the top corner, but I splay my fingers across the bottom of the phone for better control. I'm sure the people who really love this phone and use it as their daily drivers figured that out within the first day and are happy as can be.
Long live the big screen.
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I have smallish hands but I can easily operate it with 1 hand but the 'safety level' of operating the device with my small hands is close to 0. Soon after I switched to land scape mode with the use of ADW EX and use the phone almost exclusively in landscape mode but with 2 hands mostly.
I don't really need it but people with one hand issues should try button saviour on market.
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Haha yeah I know what you mean, I would say my safety level drops quite a bit. Walking around outside and holding it like that for a prolonged time wouldn't be the smartest thing to do..
And I don't know if it matters, but I bought the white one and what was supposed to be a glossy, slippery back actually provides a good amount of friction (for whatever reason) when I hold it.
I just bought the zagg shields for this, to hopefully add to that friction and not take away from it. I'd hate to put this in a case and have it be even fatter :/
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Oh yeah, and in landscape, you can pretty much only hold it. That definitely requires two hands for input
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Agreed, had it for a week now. All my typical things I use to do: one hand, in pocket, holding on to other things and phone, watching yottube in bed while falling asleep, music listening while doing other things so loose and simple touches - all work fine -- many better. There is something amazing that the larger screen ( see more, more is big, less zooming in and out) along with the real estate for interacting that this phone gives you - that is a game changer. Also the voice input tools are huge ( vlingo and gvoice) , work great with this build and dual processor -- so I am doing much more with voice ( most of my email writing , commands to get stuff or do stuff). And of course the best is the spen - its precision and accuracy are so MUCH better than touch. Touch is great for fast and casual, but sometimes you are sitting ont he couch or desk or standing leaning against a wall where you plan to do over a minute of browsing, scheduling, email answering - I find the pen rocks a these times. In fact see this page on xda, look at the smallest icons you want to hit ( next page, ...) I do not have to zoom for any of them, I can hit the all (like 1 pixel accuracy with the spen) - saves me huge wasted zooms and moves and misses. Love this phone - again it is a gamer changer.
I didn't have a problem using the Note with only one hand. But the problem is that if you're walking then it might drops easily. Si I found a great compromise, I bought a silicone cover which adds more grip. And it saved me once after I dropped my Note being on my bike. The Note didn't get any damage whatsoever.
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Definitely can be used with one hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbE2fmcErs
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I'm 5ft 11 and don't have particularly big hands. I have no problems using the Note one handed.
Like some others, it's more about adjusting your grip and supporting rather than strangling the phone! It is a little tricky to text while walking etc but it's do-able.
I've actually started finding other phones with their tiny screens and keyboards difficult to use! ;-)
emuX said:
I'm 5ft 11 and don't have particularly big hands. I have no problems using the Note one handed.
Like some others, it's more about adjusting your grip and supporting rather than strangling the phone! It is a little tricky to text while walking etc but it's do-able.
I've actually started finding other phones with their tiny screens and keyboards difficult to use! ;-)
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same here. After getting used to the big screen I don't want to go back to something smaller.
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tbh, I still find one hand typing with the note an issue. I doubt i have ladies size hands, but reaching out to P needs some adjustment..
Tried swype?
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Lol. My old iPhone appeared as baby phone after just days of Note :-D
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I am NOT very happy with my S-Pen because I have to press REALLY hard before the S-Pen touch register on the screen.
This makes the following very hard to do and not practical:
- Taking notes: kinda hard trying to take notes when I have to keep "jabbing" the screen really hard
- Drawing: forget about the pressure sensitive feature, there is only one for me --> press really hard!
I tried replacing the S-Pen (bought one from my local Fry's Electronics), no go.
How about you? Can you use the S-Pen on practical day-to-day basis...or this is just another "gimmick" for you?
I don't have to press any harder than I would with paper and a pencil. Although even now and again it will stop writing, like show a space between two lines because I didn't press hard enough. A lot of peoples are apparently too sensitive sometimes and will start to write above the screen... Samsung seems to have screwed up a few things with the note
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Looks like you have a problems with touch screen.
I try to use it. But always end up shoving it back in it's holder and just tapping out texts the old way.
Find it difficult to write with anyway, it doesn't flow naturally and seems a little behind all the time. Not got use to how fast or slow to use it.
The S pen is ok. Its not as good as I thought it was and I actually only use it to make rage comics and post them on 9gag.
Its not very useful for taking down notes on the spot
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My Problem is as follow :
There are 2 zones in my screen that don't respond to the pen at the First time,
I attached 2 screenshots showing :
The First with the blank untouchable 2 zones,
The second, is the same try, but I added some drawings later with my finger.
So this means that my screen is OK, and May be something is wrong with the S pen.
Any body experienced the same issue?
Sorry for the second screenshot, The volume bar came in
But you can clearly See the cercle with the + incidents. At the buttom zone.
Do you have a case with magnets?
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I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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Do you have a case with magnets?
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I tell you what,
Even If I stayed a month digging, I would'nt guess!
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much.
You saved my note
The First thing I will do now, is to throw my case away, and look for a non magnetic one.
Take a look at my thread, That could interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620625
My S Pen works fine for writing and drawing. It's basically the same as writing with a pen for me in terms of pressure. Granted, it is thinner and a little less friction on the surface than pen and paper.
I write a lot on whiteboards for work and it is a little similar to that for me. When writing on a whiteboard, you don't anchor your hand on the surface like you would with paper.
Sometimes if I want to draw very accurately, I will anchor my writing hand on the fingers of the hand holding the phone that stick out from the right hand side. But I find writing like this slower.
I use the S Pen a lot more than I though I would before I bought it. I originally thought it would be a gimmick and just wanted the big screen, but I use it a lot for taking handwritten notes in FreeNote+ (I find this quicker than dealing with text conversion and auto-correction) and also find it a lot more accurate for drawing and photo editing.
I also find myself using it for Swype quite a lot. It's quicker than using my fingers. I think because there's less friction and you have a longer reach, so you hand doesn't actually have to move as much.
Also, the accuracy is excellent for some games like Fruit Ninja and Deer Hunter.
It works well for me. Though, need to get a bit of used to.
I use it mainly for taking notes...
I use mine when I am wearing gloves. No need to remove them.
I use it for taking notes an play DrawSomething! I love it. Everybody prases my drawings and at several iPhone players say they envy my Note and wish they had one
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Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
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I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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useful
I find the S-Pen incredibly useful whenever you want to write something down on the go.
I find it much faster to take out my phone and launch a smartly-placed app to start taking a quick note (phone number, adress, any work-related post-it...) rather than searching your pockets for something to write on and asking for a pen (though i still always carry one on me )
The trick is then to process the notes and not just leave them in that folder you never go to. Well, that just takes a little discipline.
As for good apps, i've only tried a few but i think the first important thing to look out for in such an app is it's capacity to transform you're wavery note-taking skills into a nice smooth handwritten text on the screen. The S-Memo tool does it pretty well but i would recommend something more like Papyrus (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1580716&highlight=papyrus) which has some pretty useful vector-imaging capabilities.
EDIT : I forgot to add that the s-pen is meant to work without pressure on the phone (though it still requires a minimum of contact), and works flawlessly on mine (i don't use cases or covers to protect the phone, i just take care of it.). Anyone needing to press hard on their phone for the s-pen to work has a problem, either with the phone or the pen. Consider having it checked.
I don't use it for all tasks, because that would just make things much harder. It's good for playing basic games though, like Draw Something, or just any other game where it feels better to use the S-Pen.
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Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
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No, I don't have such problem. Sometimes, I find it a bit sensitive than I had hoped.
If you have to press REALLY hard for it to register, it might be a good idea to go to a shop and test one out to see if it's the same as your unit.
Maybe try and test their S Pen with your phone to see if it's a problem with the S Pen or the screen.
I think the spen is to small for 1 handed users. But works perfectly fine for all spen activities.
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