I am NOT very happy with my S-Pen because I have to press REALLY hard before the S-Pen touch register on the screen.
This makes the following very hard to do and not practical:
- Taking notes: kinda hard trying to take notes when I have to keep "jabbing" the screen really hard
- Drawing: forget about the pressure sensitive feature, there is only one for me --> press really hard!
I tried replacing the S-Pen (bought one from my local Fry's Electronics), no go.
How about you? Can you use the S-Pen on practical day-to-day basis...or this is just another "gimmick" for you?
I don't have to press any harder than I would with paper and a pencil. Although even now and again it will stop writing, like show a space between two lines because I didn't press hard enough. A lot of peoples are apparently too sensitive sometimes and will start to write above the screen... Samsung seems to have screwed up a few things with the note
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Looks like you have a problems with touch screen.
I try to use it. But always end up shoving it back in it's holder and just tapping out texts the old way.
Find it difficult to write with anyway, it doesn't flow naturally and seems a little behind all the time. Not got use to how fast or slow to use it.
The S pen is ok. Its not as good as I thought it was and I actually only use it to make rage comics and post them on 9gag.
Its not very useful for taking down notes on the spot
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My Problem is as follow :
There are 2 zones in my screen that don't respond to the pen at the First time,
I attached 2 screenshots showing :
The First with the blank untouchable 2 zones,
The second, is the same try, but I added some drawings later with my finger.
So this means that my screen is OK, and May be something is wrong with the S pen.
Any body experienced the same issue?
Sorry for the second screenshot, The volume bar came in
But you can clearly See the cercle with the + incidents. At the buttom zone.
Do you have a case with magnets?
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I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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Do you have a case with magnets?
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I tell you what,
Even If I stayed a month digging, I would'nt guess!
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much.
You saved my note
The First thing I will do now, is to throw my case away, and look for a non magnetic one.
Take a look at my thread, That could interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620625
My S Pen works fine for writing and drawing. It's basically the same as writing with a pen for me in terms of pressure. Granted, it is thinner and a little less friction on the surface than pen and paper.
I write a lot on whiteboards for work and it is a little similar to that for me. When writing on a whiteboard, you don't anchor your hand on the surface like you would with paper.
Sometimes if I want to draw very accurately, I will anchor my writing hand on the fingers of the hand holding the phone that stick out from the right hand side. But I find writing like this slower.
I use the S Pen a lot more than I though I would before I bought it. I originally thought it would be a gimmick and just wanted the big screen, but I use it a lot for taking handwritten notes in FreeNote+ (I find this quicker than dealing with text conversion and auto-correction) and also find it a lot more accurate for drawing and photo editing.
I also find myself using it for Swype quite a lot. It's quicker than using my fingers. I think because there's less friction and you have a longer reach, so you hand doesn't actually have to move as much.
Also, the accuracy is excellent for some games like Fruit Ninja and Deer Hunter.
It works well for me. Though, need to get a bit of used to.
I use it mainly for taking notes...
I use mine when I am wearing gloves. No need to remove them.
I use it for taking notes an play DrawSomething! I love it. Everybody prases my drawings and at several iPhone players say they envy my Note and wish they had one
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Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
Alexanderbooth said:
I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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I find the S-Pen incredibly useful whenever you want to write something down on the go.
I find it much faster to take out my phone and launch a smartly-placed app to start taking a quick note (phone number, adress, any work-related post-it...) rather than searching your pockets for something to write on and asking for a pen (though i still always carry one on me )
The trick is then to process the notes and not just leave them in that folder you never go to. Well, that just takes a little discipline.
As for good apps, i've only tried a few but i think the first important thing to look out for in such an app is it's capacity to transform you're wavery note-taking skills into a nice smooth handwritten text on the screen. The S-Memo tool does it pretty well but i would recommend something more like Papyrus (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1580716&highlight=papyrus) which has some pretty useful vector-imaging capabilities.
EDIT : I forgot to add that the s-pen is meant to work without pressure on the phone (though it still requires a minimum of contact), and works flawlessly on mine (i don't use cases or covers to protect the phone, i just take care of it.). Anyone needing to press hard on their phone for the s-pen to work has a problem, either with the phone or the pen. Consider having it checked.
I don't use it for all tasks, because that would just make things much harder. It's good for playing basic games though, like Draw Something, or just any other game where it feels better to use the S-Pen.
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No, I don't have such problem. Sometimes, I find it a bit sensitive than I had hoped.
If you have to press REALLY hard for it to register, it might be a good idea to go to a shop and test one out to see if it's the same as your unit.
Maybe try and test their S Pen with your phone to see if it's a problem with the S Pen or the screen.
I think the spen is to small for 1 handed users. But works perfectly fine for all spen activities.
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Going to pickup my Stylus now and wondering what app should I get? I want to be able to take notes, then save to word or pdf and view later
which stylus are you getting out of interest?
Well, Handrite so far has probably been the best 'let me write **** down now' app, and its pretty simple and quick.
I think I have installed every note taking app in the market and have settled on it.
I'd like to see a 'wrist gaurd' so to speak so I can actually lay my hand on the screen and write - ipad has a note app that does it.
There are other more complex apps like Evernote that let you sync stuff to the cloud - but those are a little too much for my need, mainly my notes are written and just temporary 'todos' or 'how todos'
BTW, if you get the Griffin stylus - return it , the tip is to soft and you'll end up scratching the screen (thank god for screen protectors)
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I got this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858995181&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169959&SID=10qk6ik2echjo
Kinda bummed, im left handed and whenever i try to write my wrist is on screen and the stylus doesnt work....
Stylus performance
How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
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How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
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its decent, i wont be using it for writing. I have the Xoom keyboard i guess ill use that when I need to. I am just going to use it for normal stuff when i dont want fingerprints everywhere
If you just want to take notes I would use Handwrite, solid app.
If you are Interested in drawing I recommend Sketchbook
And if your looking to take notes on like presentation : ezPDF
I've been trying out every hand writing app I can find. So far, the two I like most are MaplePaint (for quick handwritten notes/diagrams) and WritePad for more detailed documents.
I should note that WritePad is a keyboard replacement rather than a self contained app. You can use in conjunction with any text input (I've been using it with Quickoffice). I've been playing around with the WritePad free trial (you have to get it off www.phatware.com) all day and I'm more or less convinced it is worth the $10.
Does evernote allow you to write notes with a styles?
I had a pen like that but the screen is not very responsive if you write very fast(like everybody do)
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HTC Flyer has that 'stylus interupt' thing doesnt it? where you can lean on the screen as it 'disables' the finger touch when you are writing with a stylus...
thought it sounded a good idea
I've noticed something interesting with the s-pen. Having used a lot of phones that had a stylus, i am using the s-pen a lot. If I'm using the phone in bed and I'm lying down with the phone held above me, when using the s-pen, the phone will respond to the pen even if it's held up to a centimetre above the screen without actually making contact.
Anyone else noticed this? Still loving the phone though. It's clearly the best device i have ever had.
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Mine doesn't do that. In fact, I can very lightly touch the screen with the stylus without it registering. I have to give it a little pressure. This is in any position. I saw a YouTube video of someone having the same effect you describe, though; I wonder if it's a stylus thing or a screen thing.
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Mine doesn't do that. In fact, I can very lightly touch the screen with the stylus without it registering. I have to give it a little pressure. This is in any position. I saw a YouTube video of someone having the same effect you describe, though; I wonder if it's a stylus thing or a screen thing.
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Same as you. I honestly wish it was a tiny bit more sensitive to be honest.
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I've noticed something interesting with the s-pen. Having used a lot of phones that had a stylus, i am using the s-pen a lot. If I'm using the phone in bed and I'm lying down with the phone held above me, when using the s-pen, the phone will respond to the pen even if it's held up to a centimetre above the screen without actually making contact.
Anyone else noticed this? Still loving the phone though. It's clearly the best device i have ever had.
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It's supposed to know the pen is there before it touches the screen so it can turn off the touch screen. That way your palm does not activate it.
spfraggle said:
I've noticed something interesting with the s-pen. Having used a lot of phones that had a stylus, i am using the s-pen a lot. If I'm using the phone in bed and I'm lying down with the phone held above me, when using the s-pen, the phone will respond to the pen even if it's held up to a centimetre above the screen without actually making contact.
Anyone else noticed this? Still loving the phone though. It's clearly the best device i have ever had.
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I've experienced that, quite a few times (makes it frustrating to play "Crayon physics"!).
spfraggle said:
I've noticed something interesting with the s-pen. Having used a lot of phones that had a stylus, i am using the s-pen a lot. If I'm using the phone in bed and I'm lying down with the phone held above me, when using the s-pen, the phone will respond to the pen even if it's held up to a centimetre above the screen without actually making contact.
Anyone else noticed this? Still loving the phone though. It's clearly the best device i have ever had.
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The reason it is probably doing that is because of how Wacom technology is designed. To register interaction with the screen, the tip on the stylus is pressed down to make contact with the sensor inside the stylus. It then communicates with the radio inside the screen. So obviously if the stylus is held upside down, the tip will be making constant contact with the sensor. It could be that the stylus tip is slightly loose, so you should try another Wacom stylus.
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The reason it is probably doing that is because of how Wacom technology is designed. To register interaction with the screen, the tip on the stylus is pressed down to make contact with the sensor inside the stylus. It then communicates with the radio inside the screen. So obviously if the stylus is held upside down, the tip will be making constant contact with the sensor. It could be that the stylus tip is slightly loose, so you should try another Wacom stylus.
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I just confirmed this on mine. I used a piece of tape to hold the tip of my stylus depressed, and that caused me to experience the issue. Looks like some people have defective stylii.
Heard about it before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VfkXo0KU5c&sns=em
Also, if you change the angle of using the pen, the ink start from higher (not from under the pen)!
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Also, if you change the angle of using the pen, the ink start from higher (not from under the pen)!
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I would venture a guess that this problem is the underlying issue with the minority of people who complain that the stylus is inaccurate. I wonder if it would be possible for Samsung or someone here to create a calibration function so as to adapt to how the user typically holds the stylus.
Or we could go this route...
<apple>You're holding it wrong!</apple>
I think the offset of the pen is actually purposely added to look more natural in most use-cases, but occasionally manifests itself strangely, like at strange angles. Here's the easiest way to reproduce the weirdness -
Turn off auto-rotation.
In normal portrait orientation, bring up the S-memo quick note double tap thing.
Write your name (or whatever) along the bottom of the quick note, holding the pen as you typically would. Notice how the strokes are drawn.
Without closing that note, hold the phone upside-down.
Now write the same thing you wrote before, along what is now the bottom of the note. Notice how the strokes are now drawn.
The strokes are offset in the direction that you tilt the pen (non-inverted control scheme ), but is also offset very slightly higher up the screen that the pen by default. This is so as to look more natural in normal use, because of course the pen does not actually touch the area that it is drawing on; the glass is in the way. The effect stacks somewhat strangely, however, when holding it, for example, upside-down.
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I think the offset of the pen is actually purposely added to look more natural in most use-cases, but occasionally manifests itself strangely, like at strange angles. Here's the easiest way to reproduce the weirdness -
Turn off auto-rotation.
In normal portrait orientation, bring up the S-memo quick note double tap thing.
Write your name (or whatever) along the bottom of the quick note, holding the pen as you typically would. Notice how the strokes are drawn.
Without closing that note, hold the phone upside-down.
Now write the same thing you wrote before, along what is now the bottom of the note. Notice how the strokes are now drawn.
The strokes are offset in the direction that you tilt the pen (non-inverted control scheme ), but is also offset very slightly higher up the screen that the pen by default. This is so as to look more natural in normal use, because of course the pen does not actually touch the area that it is drawing on; the glass is in the way. The effect stacks somewhat strangely, however, when holding it, for example, upside-down.
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i think i am a lucky one, i dont have this werdness at all it works the same exactly both ways.. knowing im on middle east ROM.
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i think i am a lucky one, i dont have this werdness at all it works the same exactly both ways.. knowing im on middle east ROM.
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Interesting! I assumed people were seeing differences just because they were using the phone in different ways, but if you still can't see it by doing this, I guess there actually is a fundamental difference in different phones.
Was there a calibration thing when we first set up the phone? I don't remember anymore. BTW, I'm on KJ4.
No, no calibration thing at the beginning. Still hoping for one.
One thing i thought i should be clear on. The stylus works perfectly fine in all other situations and it's only if the device is angled in that way the stylus behaves accordingly. Personally, it's not a problem for me. I still see this as the best device i have ever owned.
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Or we could go this route...
<apple>You're holding it wrong!</apple>
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Very Clever
I still think that if the galaxy note displayed a little dot while hovering with the pen, it would be much better. With all wacom devices on windows, with a tablet or a wacom layer above a screen, the dot lets you see exactly where the next stroke will begin.
When you use a wacom pen, you don't start your next stroke based on the location of the actual pen on the screen.
Even with perfect calibration you still have the parallax effect looking through a thick glass layer. Looking even at a slightly different angle will cause the pen to be off again.
Instead, you use the dot.
Hopefully someone will be able to develop something to put a dot or a cursor of some sort on the screen.
What do you guys think? Is there a good use for it? Do you use it? What are your thoughts in general.
i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally. I had played with the digitizer stylus on the htc flyer earlier, and that was such a fantastic stylus experience, i thought i would be able to have that same level of detail, but apparently it doesnt work that way on other tablets, htc flyer has a special digitizer layer on top of the capacitive screen, that makes input form the special digitizer pen more accurate, like i can literally write chicken scratch on that thing and it is perfectly legible.
but on regular capacitive screens, the best stylus wont do much more than what your finger does. If you want to use the stylus just for swiping, and moving stuff, then it's okay i suppose, especially when its cold. But its not a handwriting replacement, or even a decent sketching tool, just a finger replacement. Regular styluses have this weird squishy foam tip also, that annoys me.
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i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally.
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This.
I have the Samsung stylus and use it all the time. To me, it's a tad more precise than my finger and it keeps the screen clean of finger prints. The only app it seems to work better than average in is the Asus notes app that's available in the dev section. Even then, it's for quick notes and phone numbers not actual writing.
I'm using one now. The biggest advantage for me is when entering text. My wife asked for one. I grabed one at Walmart, tried it out and had to get one for myself. I like it.
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Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
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Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
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There's an app for that. Touchscreentune in the dev section. It helps a great deal, though it doesn't make the Tab perfect. One caveat... You need to be rooted to use it.
Hey xda, i just got my GNote and i was hugely excited for one Feature: The S-Pen
I imagined it to be like the Wacom Tablets i used, barely Touch needed to respond but instead i feel like i got a faulty Device. How does your S-Pen react? Does it respond under its own weight, does it feel naturally to Touch or do you actually need to Press on the screen quite a bit? I feel like the Pressure of writing with a Normal Pen on Paper is needed for it to respond, natural while Writing or Scribbling but weird when trying to type or navigate through Menus. I cant seem to find anyone else reporting this kind of Problem, i was on the Latest stock Firmware and now on Rocket Rom GB, no change. Also is there an Test App to show the Pressure on the Pen? (Since its 128? levels Pressure Sensitive.)
Please help and tell me if i should get a new device or if this is normal.
Thanks in advance.
With mine, sometimes the phone reacts to the s-pen close to, but not actually touching the screen. Sometimes I have to do what I'm gonna do, then pull the pen quickly away from the screen to keep from another action being performed.
Mine has the same problem of not being responsive, and I can't for the life of me get it to be pressure sensitive. On top of that it lags quite a bit. I am hoping that it improves with ICS update, but I am not holding out much hope. I purchased it cause of the S pen, but having owned it a while, I would keep it without the S pen.
I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.
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I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.
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look carefully at what you're writing and you'll notice the s-pen is off buy ~1-2mm. If you still can't see it change the line thickness (of the pen) to as low as possible then look carefully. It gives the illusion of being more accurate with a bigger line size.
Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
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It seems there is a large range in quality of s-pens. Many people report being able to write without the pen even touching the screen (pressure transducer triggered prematurely), and some report having to push too hard. Mine is just right. I think others should request s-pen replacements if their pen is either too sensitive or not sensitive enough.
i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2
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i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2
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TouchScreenTuner Pro has a "Touch Sensitivity" Setting. Recommended setting is 25. I have it set to 20 and s-pen writes with almost no pressure at all.
kraz
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Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
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Here's another thought.
According to the description, it also requires root, which some like me do not have.
I exchanged one pen under warranty. The second one works also like crap, but for this one i really have to push on screen. Crap.
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I recently lost my Note 3 and didn't really have enough time with my first smartphone to find any major flaws with it other than Samsung's bloatware. However, with inevitable arrival of more phablets with impressive hardware, I was wondering if I should just get another Note 3 or wait.
The one thing that's making me consider waiting is the fact that I never really used the S Pen. The pen window never really seemed all that useful for me. That new app Cover seems like it'd take care of any fast switching I'd need to do anyway.
The only thing I ever used the S Pen for was editing photos, but even then I didn't feel as if I really took full advantage of its accuracy. Maybe I used the wrong apps. S Note was cool, but it's much faster to just type things than write it. And writing phone numbers and saving them was also nifty, but wasn't anywhere near as fast as just opening the phonebook and adding a new contact.
So what do you use it for and do you have any recommendations?
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I recently lost my Note 3 and didn't really have enough time with my first smartphone to find any major flaws with it other than Samsung's bloatware. However, with inevitable arrival of more phablets with impressive hardware, I was wondering if I should just get another Note 3 or wait.
The one thing that's making me consider waiting is the fact that I never really used the S Pen. The pen window never really seemed all that useful for me. That new app Cover seems like it'd take care of any fast switching I'd need to do anyway.
The only thing I ever used the S Pen for was editing photos, but even then I didn't feel as if I really took full advantage of its accuracy. Maybe I used the wrong apps. S Note was cool, but it's much faster to just type things than write it. And writing phone numbers and saving them was also nifty, but wasn't anywhere near as fast as just opening the phonebook and adding a new contact.
So what do you use it for and do you have any recommendations?
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I never used the pen with my last note and I don't use it with this one either.
Tbh I rarely use mine also, unless I'm jotting down a note at work for something I need to do later.. but even then I'm a left and find it awkward to write sometimes.
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i use it to pick things out from under my finger nails
do you guys mean it works with the phone. i thought it was like the bits of a swiss army knife
I use my S-Pen a lot. Mainly because I like to doodle and the fact I don't like finger marks on my nice clean screen. I don't have a protector on it at the minute. I also use the handwriting recognition when sending texts.
Also my mates little girl likes using my phone to draw, and I help her with her reading, writing and spelling on it. Fabulous tool!
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I use my S-Pen a lot. Mainly because I like to doodle and the fact I don't like finger marks on my nice clean screen. I don't have a protector on it at the minute. I also use the handwriting recognition when sending texts.
Also my mates little girl likes using my phone to draw, and I help her with her reading, writing and spelling on it. Fabulous tool!
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Ha, never knew you could use handwriting recognition for sending texts, just tried it. Looks like it works in pretty much any typeable field.
Yes, late to the party I know....
Note 3 is my 1st phone with S Pen, after using it, I fall in love with it. I often take screenshot and then use S Pen to write something on it, it is really useful.