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Returning my Galaxy Note

I was really excited for GNote's release and grabed one from neweggs at $789 in a blink.
Having used it for three days, and tried really hard to persude myself, I finally decided to return it. just thought to share my 2 cents.
I am not in any bit concerned with hold it against my face to make phone call. It does look kind of strange, but I don't care.
to start with, I have perfect vision, and average size hand for a man. I can use Inspire 4.3 screen with one hand entirely and comfortably.
The main reason against GNote is the loose of single hand operation -- believe me, with GNote, you will need you both hands for 80% of normal operation if you are not one of NBA players. with your current phone, try to restrict you finger motion to its own side of screen, and you will see if you can live with it.
Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
Unlike larger tablet, which can be held by bezel, GNote's bezels are too thin to hold securely. two long sizes are too thin to hold. one size with buttons. the the only size is the top (speaker phone side), but also too thin to feel secure or not to actually touch screen with any motion.
But if GNote offers unqiue functions , I am more than willing to live with two-handed inconvenience, unfortuantely,
a). high resolution + large screen. I read magazine Zinio on my android, not to mention web browse etc. therefore I care a lot about clarity etc -- and I have perfect vision. but, the high resolution means nothing in practics. yes, it is more clear, but in the sametime, if I do not zoom in, I still can not read in Gnote, no difference from in Inspire 4G. yes, for Zinio reading, I can tell individual characters in GNote now, while in Inspire 4G, they are blur. but I still need to zoom in in GNote to actually read. in others words, the 5.3 inch size stll can not offer un-zoomed reading, the characters are just too small, inspite of how high the resolution is. Once zoomed in, I can see no difference between inspire 4g and GNote. The same for web browsing.
In 7 inch one such as nook color, I do not need to zoom in and can actually read entire page.
movie watch is a better experience in Gnote, but had to compare back to back to feel the different from 4.3 inch screen. not big benefit.
s-pen is a useful function and it works fairly well. in fact, my struggle of whether to keep GNote is not for the large screen but my desire for stylus. but there are only two apps that can effectively use it. and as a content consumption device, I don't see s-pen is so useful that I can live with the incovenicne of the two hand operation.
Again GNote is a novel product with unique features. I am sure many people will find its function worth all the inconvenience and cost. but for me, I will go back to my humble inspire 4G for now. If Samsung puts s-pen on a 4.5 inch screen device with same width of current 4.3 inch screen phone, it would be no brainer for me.

hhspiny said:
Since my fingers can barely wrap around it, it does feel insecure on hand, and need fingers to actually 'hold' it with a bit of force. the other option is to rest it weight mostly on little finger. either way, my fingers get tired quickly. with inspire 4g, most weight supported by wrapped fingers without much notiable force.
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That's odd - maybe it's because I have bigger hands, but the note doesn't touch my little fingers at all, usually. my hands are kind of in a handshake position, with my fingers slightly extended.
The note rests against all my fingers - in landscape mode I might curl my index fingers around the top of the note.
- Frank

Yes the one handed operation is tougher but it's merely a very minor irritant compared to the many cool things I like about this device... One of them being size.

I can nearly use it one handed. Best way is to have one hand grip it while the other is used for typing our other tasks.
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?

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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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What purpose do you have for needing to be able hold and operate the Note one-handed? I really don't get this issue that some people are using as a negative for the Galaxy Note. Even the smaller 4.3" Galaxy S2 I use one hand to hold it and the other hand to operate. Outside of circumstances where you shouldn't be using your phone to begin with like while driving down the road why does the other hand need to be free during operation?
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5150Joker said:
What if he enjoys watching porn on his galaxy note? Lol
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Then being restricted to using both hands to hold the Note is probably a good thing.
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rockky said:
Lotta reasons....It's a mobile device... We walk holding items in other hand, and standing on bus, could go on... With scenarios where one handed operation is really handy.
Oh but perhaps I shouldn't be using it then?
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I wouldn't if you care anything about the $700+ device in your hand. Walking around using your phone in one hand while your carrying and doing things with the other is the reason so many people drop their phones. One user on this board has already shown how the screen on his Note shattered when he dropped his.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338544&highlight=car
If you want one handed operation for the Note while sitting at your desk then get the Samsung dock.

Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
With that said, im just a normal sized dude and i can quite comfortably use mine with 1 hand in all the same use scenarios as with my nexus s. Even with my nexus s i naturally wanted two hands for some things, and of course i still do with my note, but its not as if i feel i need 3 hands, as if this were the case it'd obviously become a problem

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Dude.... You were born with 2 hands for a reason ----> galaxy note
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Now that was funny!

I *can* use the Note one-handed (I can wrap my hand around the Note and my thumb and "gesture" finger can just about touch), but I prefer, as has been mentioned in this thread, holding it with one and operating it with another.

yeh I find it quite annoying to not be able to use it with one hand.
especially when i am in public transport and have to hold onto something with the other hand. Its usually in public transport that I have to take my phone out and kill time too so thats really annoying.
So i can either use my note with one hand and risk dropping it, or i can use it with both hands and drop myself

So were you allowed to return it? I also saw that only exchanges are allowed on newegg for the Note. I was going to purchase mine at newegg but saw it cheaper on eBay.
I have no second thoughts about returning. This screen is just right for me web browsing, gaming, and watching videos.
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If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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xAnimal5 said:
If those are the only reasons you can think of to return your Note, then that shows how flawless this baby is.
Size isn't for everyone. But, Bigger is ALWAYS better.
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So by your logic "better" isnt for everyone!?

Go big or go home....kidding aside, op is having buyer regrets and is rationalizing the return. Let the man/woman do as he/she wishes. But one advantage to having a high resolution device is it's ability to fit more information on the screen at one time, of course it'll look the same if it s zoom in.
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Let me know if you want to sell it

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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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he means the width of current 4.3 inch phones, not 4.3inch width
A different aspect ratio, like 16:9 instead of 16:10
The width of a 16:10 4.3" phone is around 2.28 inches

Why are people so concerned about using one hand. If you must use one hand then this phone is not for you, buy a smaller one. simple

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How is it even possible to have a 4.5inch screen with 4.3inch width? wth?
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Width of a phone with 4.3" screen. Thinner Bezel lets 4.5" screen fit where 4.3" did before.
I hear the OP's thoughts loud and clear. I thought long and hard the first few days I was using mine and wondered if I wouldn't be happier going back to a 4.3" device. The GSII is really a great device and I love its thinness and light weight; one handed browsing in bed is great, holding it between thumb and middle finger with thumb on bottom and middle finger on top, and fore finger used for navigation and link clicking.
Turns out I can effectively do this with the Note as well. And I actually do use the larger, higher res screen. 1/2 to 2/3 of the time I actually browse the web NOT zoomed in. It's just barely large enough for me to browse without zooming in. A higher res 4.3" or 4.6" screen would be tempting (galaxy nexus...) but I think I'd still have to zoom in for comfortable viewing.
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus for my girlfriend (the international version and put her in straight talk, not the lame ass locked down Verizon version) and switch phones with her for awhile, but I'll probably be fiending for my Note before long.

One hand operability

Just to quell any concerns of soon-to-be owners: It can be done. It can be used with one hand. I'm not a giant (about 6'1", slightly above average) and I'm coming from a 4S, so I'm not used to huge phones. You literally just have to grab it differently than you would a tiny phone.
I don't understand why all reviewers grab this phone like a murder weapon, and grip the crap out of it - and then try to use their thumbs to grab the adjacent corner of the screen. Wtf? Of course that's not gonna work. I can reach the top corner, but I splay my fingers across the bottom of the phone for better control. I'm sure the people who really love this phone and use it as their daily drivers figured that out within the first day and are happy as can be.
Long live the big screen.

I agree, in the beginning I found that it was a bit difficult to handle even with my large hands but as soon as I got used to holding it "like I'm supposed to", which took me like ten minutes, using it with one hand has been a breeze!
Now it feels weird to hold smaller phones, I tend to try to clench them with just my palm.

Hahaha that's exactly what I was doing earlier. They do start to feel like tiny toys
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The size is not a problem for me using it with one hand, the only issue is my hand (or rather pinky) starts to hurt after a while holding it lol. Got used to the SGS2 too much I guess
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One handed use is not an issue.
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i think i may have to improve my dexterity on this one, lol.

But the thing is with smaller phone I can grip the other side with the 4 other fingers, while with my Note if I want to comfortably use it with one hand, my other 4 fingers can only slightly grab the back of the phone to allow my thumb to move comfortably (that is can reach the other side of the screen with my thumb), and I'm scared of dropping Note holding it like that

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Just to quell any concerns of soon-to-be owners: It can be done. It can be used with one hand. I'm not a giant (about 6'1", slightly above average) and I'm coming from a 4S, so I'm not used to huge phones. You literally just have to grab it differently than you would a tiny phone.
I don't understand why all reviewers grab this phone like a murder weapon, and grip the crap out of it - and then try to use their thumbs to grab the adjacent corner of the screen. Wtf? Of course that's not gonna work. I can reach the top corner, but I splay my fingers across the bottom of the phone for better control. I'm sure the people who really love this phone and use it as their daily drivers figured that out within the first day and are happy as can be.
Long live the big screen.
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I have smallish hands but I can easily operate it with 1 hand but the 'safety level' of operating the device with my small hands is close to 0. Soon after I switched to land scape mode with the use of ADW EX and use the phone almost exclusively in landscape mode but with 2 hands mostly.

I don't really need it but people with one hand issues should try button saviour on market.
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Haha yeah I know what you mean, I would say my safety level drops quite a bit. Walking around outside and holding it like that for a prolonged time wouldn't be the smartest thing to do..
And I don't know if it matters, but I bought the white one and what was supposed to be a glossy, slippery back actually provides a good amount of friction (for whatever reason) when I hold it.
I just bought the zagg shields for this, to hopefully add to that friction and not take away from it. I'd hate to put this in a case and have it be even fatter :/
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Oh yeah, and in landscape, you can pretty much only hold it. That definitely requires two hands for input
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Agreed, had it for a week now. All my typical things I use to do: one hand, in pocket, holding on to other things and phone, watching yottube in bed while falling asleep, music listening while doing other things so loose and simple touches - all work fine -- many better. There is something amazing that the larger screen ( see more, more is big, less zooming in and out) along with the real estate for interacting that this phone gives you - that is a game changer. Also the voice input tools are huge ( vlingo and gvoice) , work great with this build and dual processor -- so I am doing much more with voice ( most of my email writing , commands to get stuff or do stuff). And of course the best is the spen - its precision and accuracy are so MUCH better than touch. Touch is great for fast and casual, but sometimes you are sitting ont he couch or desk or standing leaning against a wall where you plan to do over a minute of browsing, scheduling, email answering - I find the pen rocks a these times. In fact see this page on xda, look at the smallest icons you want to hit ( next page, ...) I do not have to zoom for any of them, I can hit the all (like 1 pixel accuracy with the spen) - saves me huge wasted zooms and moves and misses. Love this phone - again it is a gamer changer.

I didn't have a problem using the Note with only one hand. But the problem is that if you're walking then it might drops easily. Si I found a great compromise, I bought a silicone cover which adds more grip. And it saved me once after I dropped my Note being on my bike. The Note didn't get any damage whatsoever.
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Definitely can be used with one hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbE2fmcErs
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I'm 5ft 11 and don't have particularly big hands. I have no problems using the Note one handed.
Like some others, it's more about adjusting your grip and supporting rather than strangling the phone! It is a little tricky to text while walking etc but it's do-able.
I've actually started finding other phones with their tiny screens and keyboards difficult to use! ;-)

emuX said:
I'm 5ft 11 and don't have particularly big hands. I have no problems using the Note one handed.
Like some others, it's more about adjusting your grip and supporting rather than strangling the phone! It is a little tricky to text while walking etc but it's do-able.
I've actually started finding other phones with their tiny screens and keyboards difficult to use! ;-)
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same here. After getting used to the big screen I don't want to go back to something smaller.
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tbh, I still find one hand typing with the note an issue. I doubt i have ladies size hands, but reaching out to P needs some adjustment..

Tried swype?
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Lol. My old iPhone appeared as baby phone after just days of Note :-D
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Has anyone picked up an iPhone lately

After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Actually I have an iPod touch and that's what it is, it's a toy. Even though it has better APIs than Blackberry, I still felt more productive using a Blackberry than iOS. Now Android is the killer of the three!! And the Note is just so awesome it makes EVERYTHING else a toy

bulky & heavy
I tries a mate's iPhone on Friday. it was very heavy, compared to the Note, and very small.
He had a largish case around it wiuth a backup battery built in. Great idea, but the whole thing was quite bulky compared to the Note.
Why were we comparing? He was going to buy a Note (ever since he saw mine), and wanted to swap to play with it

This is the best phone ever
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trea916 said:
After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Fully agree. My wife wanted an iphone 4s so got her one. I am not impressed at over priced and over rated. And yes it does feel like a toy.
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I put a screen protector on my wife Iphone yesterday and drop it because it so small and heavy.
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I love the solid feeling that my iPhone gives me, the glass and the steel lead the user into thinking and feeling as though it is a premium product. This is one of the genius of Apple. Make people feel something for their device, and you will sell a ton.
I love my Note, but it feels so flimsy and cheap compared to my iPhone 4(jailbroken). I love how the software is designed over iOS, and though it is more limited without my jailbreak, most of my non tech friends would never make use of the extra anyway.
Battery life is about the same. The Note is the first Android Phone that can compete with the iPhone 4 in terms of battery life.(Though now the MaXX can too I guess) but they of course have almost double the battery size(though they needs it with the larger screens and the 4g radio in the Max's case)
While my friends do marvel at the size of the Note, they do see that unless they have large hands like me, they can't use it with one hand. This is usually a deal breaker. Especially for the ladies.
My Note is my everyday phone. But when I go out to the clubs, or on a date, the iPhone goes with me sans a case.

Whenever I try my girlfriends iPhone I almost laugh at how bad the screen is compared to my note. Feels like it's no contrast whatsoever.
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My daughter just upgraded to the iphone 4s and she asked me to sell her iphone 3GS. I was resetting it etc and could not believe that people put up with that tiny screen just to have a iphone. No way!

Spartan2x said:
I love the solid feeling that my iPhone gives me, the glass and the steel lead the user into thinking and feeling as though it is a premium product. This is one of the genius of Apple. Make people feel something for their device, and you will sell a ton.
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http://youtu.be/elKxgsrJFhw
Watch that .. then tell me youre still reassured by that "solid feeling" Cant wait to get my note and show up all my iphone fan friends, This fedex truck needs to drive faster

I bought my Note a few days ago switching front an iphone4. after using the Note for 1 day i picked up the iphone and it was so tiny i was squinting looking at that miniature screen. So glad I've got the fab Note now
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Reynaldinho111 said:
http://youtu.be/elKxgsrJFhw
Watch that .. then tell me youre still reassured by that "solid feeling" Cant wait to get my note and show up all my iphone fan friends, This fedex truck needs to drive faster
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Read my Post, SOLID FEELING. Just because something feels solid does not mean it will hold up better on a drop. In-fact the more rigid a material is, the more likely it will bust when impacted. Such as Glass vs Plastic. But in the hand, the FEELING of glass is far more pleasing than Plastic. I often handle my phones as I would pass a coin from finger to finger as in fiddling motion. The Note creeks and bends as I do that, the iPhone is solid and non-yielding.
I don't drop my phones. And If I did, that's why I have a square trade warranty. on both.

Thank you, for making my point.

trea916 said:
After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Common IOS is not that bad especially if its jailbroken its awesome i personally think they both are awesome they both have there ups and downs

A friend showed me her smashed iphone 3g the other day.
It was smashed and held together with sticky tape.
I had to laugh.
She is waiting for her 4S to arrive.
I offered to smash it for her.

Ok Rate Samsung Galaxy S 3

what do you Guys think so far rate the phone please. If you would like to add anything specifically you Love or Hate about this device please share

I'd give it an 8/10. Nearly everything about the phone is amazing except the build quality. I just can't get over how cheap it feels compared to the HTC devices I've owned. Plus my screen cracked so there's that :/
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Wow do tell how did it crack? and how do you plan on fixing it?

10/10 to date.
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Its ok. Don't really feel that much difference between it and the skyrocket with skyics. If anything, the skyrocket feels faster and sturdier.
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10, erm I mean 5
I love this thing. It's blazing fast, can multitask like a Mo-Fo and it's beautiful! It does feel soft (not cheap) but that's also what makes it so nice to hold. The only thing that would make it even more perfect would be if it had Jelly Bean already. Sure it's not perfect but what device is? It probably won't survive a drop like an HTC device can but I don't plan on dropping mine.

Plus my screen cracked so there's that :/
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All by itself huh?

Love it so far. Gave it four Stars.
My complaints:
- vz locked bootloader nonsense
- power button location slightly annoying so far. Would prefer on top, next to audio jack.
- no screen brightness toggle in taskbar with other toggles
- battery cover is probably too flimsy. I see it breaking at some point.
- screen is dim outdoors, but I fully expected this based on screen type.

I cannot wait for my case to arrive it is very slippery i set my phone on my lap a lot and this one slides off every time where my old Droid x stayed put.

I can't be the only one!

Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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If you are feeling small or not confident ...
Then shove a big fat mugen extended battery in the back with extended battery cover
... problem solved
No one will ever written your phone's girth
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huh? not me, I don't have this feeling. Well perhaps they use a case which make their Note look bigger than yours if you are not using a protective casing?
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Then shove a big fat mugen extended battery in the back with extended battery cover
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lol...with such a big battery, the Note will definitely look like a brick which is the perfect term. People were looking in disgust when I used extended batteries in my past phones which made them looked bigger - since then, I had never bought any extended batteries - if I need juice, I take my 2nd stock battery with me.

Lol i get the exact same thing. I was watching a video of how to do some stuff on a note on youtube and thought the guys note looked bigger than mine.
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Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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Yes i do feel , they feel bigger

Funny that my colleague hasgot one in white following my great advice lol and everytime i see it ive said your phones bigger than mine, i went even as far as to compare them side to side, but yeah it seems odd, then again i am odd, actually wheres my meds

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Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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ACTUALLY....
that's a well known medical condition commonly called Notus Envie.

Oh I just take out my work phone (iphone) for a minute and play with. Then my Note grows again..... ;-) then the iphone feels like a toy
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Mine looks bigger!
Maybe i'm over confident / un-shy or something like that
Seriously, you guys should go to a psycologist

Lol at all these. Actually I've had the same feeling too, and done the double check. On a related note, when I got my Note I ended up going to Amsterdam two days later, and saw 3 Notes on my first day! Helped convince my (iPhone toting) friends it was the best phone in the world!
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I work with wood and before I actually bought my note I made a mock up of it lol I know, how sad, same size, and even stuck a picture on it to replicate the screen size and drew a hardware button on the front. Still think my fake one is better lol only joking hehe.
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ACTUALLY....
that's a well known medical condition commonly called Notus Envie.
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You are very close! It is actually a well documented psyco-medical condition called "notusus envititis". Medical scientists are currently working furiously for a lasting solution. I doubt if they will succeed before a bigger screened device appears on the scene.

Q - Whats better than a Gnote?
A- Two Gnotes

I'm feeling it too, especially when I see girls with Note in the street and transport. It seems a lot bigger than mine...

The same thing happens when I look at 27" monitors at a store compared to mine at home haha

You got to have a big hand. Thats why when you see others hold their note with their small hands its look bigger...
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And here I was thinking that I was going insane. Seems I'm not the only one, I am normal, Yeah Baby!
I've got XL hands, so when I see girls/guys-with-girly-hands use it... I'm like man that's humongous. Mine never looks large, but it feels large with the TPU case on which I only have for the kickstand.
If Samsung shaved the bezels, made it thinner and added a kickstand... I'd be right at home. And if they trimmed it down a 0.1 inch, then I could do acrobatics on one hand ; )

So do you feel the same when showering at the gym?
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same feeling. but then when I see my nepnew's S3, I feel happy n my G.Note becomes bigger.

Lol no you're not alone. I had the same feeling on the tube home last night. I own the Note in white and a commuter opposite me had the Note in black. His looked bigger when I looked at my own but then realised duh same device haha