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Linux on Athena

So, will we ever have linux running on the Athena?
I guess we will.
Athena is now added to the hh.org tree, and it compiles, but i dont know if it is ever tested.
If someone like to test I can compile a kernel and make a initrd to see if it boots.
But again as allways, yo do it on your own risc.

Wow! Exciting stuff. I have absolutely no experience of Linux on a PDA although I use Ubuntu and SuSE on a daily basis. If I can help at all with any testing, I would be glad to. What kind of risks are involved? Don't fancy bricking my lovely new Ameo!

findus said:
Wow! Exciting stuff. I have absolutely no experience of Linux on a PDA although I use Ubuntu and SuSE on a daily basis. If I can help at all with any testing, I would be glad to. What kind of risks are involved? Don't fancy bricking my lovely new Ameo!
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Well until now there havent been anyone breaking their device. I have tested Linux on Universal for over one and a half yers now, and it works just as i should.
But be aware of it might happend even though it's not truly that it will.
If you want to test you can join us at IRC #htc-linux at freenode.net
Call up me or a guy named cr2 to get some help and we guide you how to do it.

findus said:
What kind of risks are involved?
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The risks are dramatic

is it just command prompt or is there a gui?

cr2 said:
The risks are dramatic
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I'll do it if we can dual boot. I setup Linux servers all the time so I have a little experience. I'll try to join up on IRC...but let me know if you can dual boot between WM5 and Linux please.

cr2 said:
The risks are dramatic
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WOOOW!~!~!~!
is it a real pic? Cool!!!
Do you have USB host/device working? SD card? WiFi? BT?
Does Direct FB supported?
Supper!!!

di2307 said:
WOOOW!~!~!~!
is it a real pic? Cool!!!
Do you have USB host/device working? SD card? WiFi? BT?
Does Direct FB supported?
Supper!!!
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Yes, that's a real pic. I can vouch for that. I have it running on my Athena today. Still being developed but they have a great start.

c0mput0r said:
is it just command prompt or is there a gui?
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It's a command prompt, but you can't yet use it. The GUI just needs
a working touchscreen driver, which is actually available and working (AD7877 on HTC Apache).

di2307 said:
is it a real pic?
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I'm not in the business of posting fake pictures
Do you have USB host/device working?
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I have not yet understood how the USB host is connected
(probably Philips, not the EPSON). AFAIK there was some attempt
of writing a linux driver for it. Since the docs are available, it
should not be a big problem.
SD card?
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No. It seems that it uses the ATI SD interface (like Hermes/TyTN)
which is completely undocumented. Some major work is required here.
WiFi?
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The chipset calls itself ACX100, but it's not exactly the same chip as used in the Universal (which works in Linux/Universal-Blueangel).
BT?
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TI BRF6150 like on the Universal (i.e. supported). The BT audio path
needs some coding, though.
Does Direct FB supported?
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It's the dumb framebuffer what you can see here.
The ATI chip is not exactly the same as on Himalaya/Blueangel
(supported on Linux) so some changes are required to get
the suspend/resume and HW acceleration working.

Wow! Good work guys. Keep it up!

Yeah, i tried the pre-compiled OpenMoko on my UNiversal, it was quite buggy but so cool to see it running!
If somebody ported the OpenMoko firmware to the Universal you would have the most amazing phone, wm5/6 for most users and Linux for crazy people
Its all great work, I cant wait to try it. I assume it will boot from SD card same as the universal one did? (just click windows .exe file and it reboots)

Pyrofer said:
Yeah, i tried the pre-compiled OpenMoko on my UNiversal, it was quite buggy but so cool to see it running!
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It's a software problem
I assume it will boot from SD card same as the universal one did? (just click windows .exe file and it reboots)
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Yes. http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret/athena-boot.exe
Just download this file and run it.
If the USB cable is connected during boot, you may even be
able to telnet to Athena (at least it works on Hermes, but YMMV).

Wow,can somebody post more pictures?

marthynovak said:
Wow,can somebody post more pictures?
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Expect better pictures when the EPSON ATA/CF controller for the microdrive is supported.

Ubuntu-mobile
GUYS - BARE IN MIND
UBUNTU IS RELEASING A WHOLE OS FOR PDA'S ETC.
THE SPECS SAY IT CAN RUN WITH 200MZ
SO WITH THIS 600MZ IT SHOULD FLY!
THERE ARE BUILTS CURRENTLY AVALIABLE OF UBUNTU-MOBILE ON THE UBUNTU REPS
SO CHECK IT OUT
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded

puccaso said:
GUYS - BARE IN MIND
UBUNTU IS RELEASING A WHOLE OS FOR PDA'S ETC.
THE SPECS SAY IT CAN RUN WITH 200MZ
SO WITH THIS 600MZ IT SHOULD FLY!
THERE ARE BUILTS CURRENTLY AVALIABLE OF UBUNTU-MOBILE ON THE UBUNTU REPS
SO CHECK IT OUT
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
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I may have misunderstood but isn't the project on the link targeting UMPC's and not PDA Phones?

Yes.
Nothing about Ameo/Athena on there.
The OpenMoko project supports the Universal, I guess somebody will port it to the Athena soon.

What's the latest on the linux port? The wiki hasn't changed much, and there are no new posts here. Is the project stalled? Is there anything I can do?
Also, as a stop gap, is there a working X server (like Cygwin/X) for windows mobile?

Bumping an old thread in the hopes of new information. The unversal is going great - any idea for our unit?

[DUMP] Windows Phone 7 build 7.0.0.6077

Thought some of the devs might be interested? Still needs to be ported to the HD2 Re-posted from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
To mods, sorry if it is in the wrong section

theredundant said:
Thought some of the devs might be interested? Still needs to be ported to the HD2 Re-posted from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
To mods, sorry if it is in the wrong section
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amazing!!!
i hope that will be released a porting!!

Its compiled for x86 so its no real use for ARM devices =/

Jack E said:
Its compiled for x86 so its no real use for ARM devices =/
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I apologize is this is a foolish question, but does the fact that its compiled in x86 mean that is could never be recompiled for arm devices?

Jack E said:
Its compiled for x86 so its no real use for ARM devices =/
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Can it be recompiled for ARM? I know w/ the android emulators when an SDK was realeased they could inject it into a ROM for use, like when the 2.1 SDK came out, dev's used it to make a ROM...and if this is a true sys dump shouldn't it be even easier to re-compile for arm? or am i just talking out my arse..(probly am)

Mods please delete thread because dump not for ARM device

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Mods please delete thread because dump not for ARM device
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Thanks anyway, I think I'm going to run it on my tablet pc. Nice big (touch)screen, large keyboard, usb hosting capabilities. Only problem is maybe that it doesn't have 3 buttons
Ladies look out here I come with my 15" windows phone

appelflap said:
Thanks anyway, I think I'm going to run it on my tablet pc. Nice big (touch)screen, large keyboard, usb hosting capabilities. Only problem is maybe that it doesn't have 3 buttons
Ladies look out here I come with my 15" windows phone
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a "WINPAD" maybe?

OrionBG said:
a "WINPAD" maybe?
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Yes!
or the iWin

for the guy with the 15inch WM device, i that is called maxIpad.

c4Lvin said:
for the guy with the 15inch WM device, i that is called maxIpad.
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or the iDontKnowWhatTheHeckItIsButManDoesItLookGood

I seriously hope his "PAD" isn't white. Can't believe so many "PADS" are out in the market now! None with wings so far!!! *RELIEF*

The Iwin is a nice name, well WP7 is not going to get my preference for sure, too many restrictions for me : )

appelflap said:
yes!
Or the iwin
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best. Name. Ever.

BTW here it is! The main reason why WP7S will NOT be on my phone for more than just to see it!
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mix10-multitask-your-way-to-success-on-windows-phone-7-sort-of

Since it is emulator image for x86,
Hope my Shift can run it. Time to play

ive been followin that thread and a couple of people said there are some similarities with WM6 and WP7S. I don't know, I could be wrong though. Do follow the thread to catch up

Anyone seen this yet? Looks very interesting :
sviluppomobile(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2010/03/wmp7-emulator-unlock.html

Wow indeed very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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Anyone seen this yet? Looks very interesting :
sviluppomobile(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2010/03/wmp7-emulator-unlock.html
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naeem151287 said:
Anyone seen this yet? Looks very interesting :
sviluppomobile(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2010/03/wmp7-emulator-unlock.html
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thanx mate, very interesting indeed

From Viewsonic

I was able to get some information from Viewsonic via a direct message on twitter. Please understand, that if you ask Viewsonic about this publicly, they will more than likely deny it:
http://twitpic.com/3g77do
http://twitpic.com/3g77lc
Trist

Cool.... I'll start on the ubuntu ROM....

Um why not just make it public? Things like this make me wonder...

Really hope this is legit! Then the fun can really get started!

what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?

gotwillk said:
what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?
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It means that they are going to release the Kernel Source and we can compile our own kernels.

gotwillk said:
what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?
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TnT and VEGAn are both using the 2nd core as far as the devs know.

Frozen001 said:
Um why not just make it public? Things like this make me wonder...
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I think so that they don't have to release it by then if something comes up.

markgolly said:
Cool.... I'll start on the ubuntu ROM....
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Hell ya I would love some Ubuntu 10.10 NBR on here... although i dunno if flash has been optimized for ubuntu and the ARM9 yet

Does this mean we could finally get a "stock" Android build, with Market and everything integrated?

wiredmonkey said:
Does this mean we could finally get a "stock" Android build, with Market and everything integrated?
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Market is typically disabled on all non-phone or non-3G devices by Google. That's why we have to hack a fix to make it work. Google has stated many times that they do not want marketplace on any non-phone or non-3G capable device. That might change with Android 3.0, but for now, we're stuck hacking the fix.

Ooh please let this be true. Kernel source + Froyo AOSP would make me a VERY happy camper. For that matter kernel source + TnT Lite or VEGAn would make me just as happy!

Hehe.... Watching movies from my 4TB NAS while sitting on the loo, here I come...

Saurabh said:
Hehe.... Watching movies from my 4TB NAS while sitting on the loo, here I come...
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man, your butt is gonna be numbbbbb.

that all depends on what kind of movies he'll be watching

thanks you made me think of two girls one cup.. wait now you're thinking about it.. haha (you're welcome)

ehunyadi said:
Market is typically disabled on all non-phone or non-3G devices by Google. That's why we have to hack a fix to make it work. Google has stated many times that they do not want marketplace on any non-phone or non-3G capable device. That might change with Android 3.0, but for now, we're stuck hacking the fix.
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Well, that remains true as of right now.
However, barnes and noble are supposedly releasing a 2.2 + market update to their nook color in january. and for $250. that is a hell of a good deal.
I have also seen people saying they have the market and then come to find out. they didnt have it legally. but i dont thing a big wig like barnes and noble would do that.
it would seem that google is easing up on its market access. realizing that we have tablets now. and we want to fully utilize them now. not whenever 3.0 comes out.

AC had an article that the Nook won't be getting market after all, but will get 2.2.
Anyway this is great news!
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babybacon said:
Well, that remains true as of right now.
However, barnes and noble are supposedly releasing a 2.2 + market update to their nook color in january. and for $250. that is a hell of a good deal.
I have also seen people saying they have the market and then come to find out. they didnt have it legally. but i dont thing a big wig like barnes and noble would do that.
it would seem that google is easing up on its market access. realizing that we have tablets now. and we want to fully utilize them now. not whenever 3.0 comes out.
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The Nook will be getting a "market" but it will not be the Google Market. It will be like what Viewsonic provided for the G-Tab.

tristanwolf1134 said:
The Nook will be getting a "market" but it will not be the Google Market. It will be like what Viewsonic provided for the G-Tab.
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Viewsonic provided a market?? Oh yea, that's right... That didn't work on day one either
THANK GOD FOR XDA AND OPEN SOURCE!

Run Apps in Windows

Hey guys,
I was wondering if there is any sort of way to have apps open in windows instead of opening on the entire screen. I for some reason remember seeing something like this a while back but I don't know if I'm just having created memories or if I actually saw it.
Thanks for any help

Yea there is some company that tried to market it to OEMs for gingerbread a while back I believe. I haven't seen much recently on this accept that the ipad has a hack for jail-broken devices that allows this feature, so considering the floating apps android already supports and androids superior multitasking it should be possible if some really awesome devs work it into a ROM of find an incredible mod for stock ROMSs. This has always interested me so hopefully we can find how possible it is and maybe someone could get it done.
Edit;
Found the article on this, not as old as I thought, but it is still on an older version of Android.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/7/2688901/android-multi-windowing-wind-river-software-modules
http://www.ixonos.com/showcases/concept-multi-window-solution-for-android-tablets/

Thanks for your reply. I was hoping it was already implemented somewhere. Maybe we will see it in the future of this device

There is an app for this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...vbS5teWJveWZyaWVuZGlzYWdlZWsuYWlyYnJvd3NlciJd
Hope this helps mate, also if you give it a go, perhaps let us know how you get on with it?
Thanks

Wilks3y said:
There is an app for this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...vbS5teWJveWZyaWVuZGlzYWdlZWsuYWlyYnJvd3NlciJd
Hope this helps mate, also if you give it a go, perhaps let us know how you get on with it?
Thanks
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Aw =( it says it isn't Compatible with my device. Maybe it has to do with my DPI setting
Edit: No go. Would have loved it if it did work. I'll message the dev

deadheartsbeat said:
Aw =( it says it isn't Compatible with my device. Maybe it has to do with my DPI setting
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same here mate(uk)

Yea, I have the overscreen browser and aircalc calculator, I had to sideload the browser from my transformer though as the nexus is unsupported. But I would still like to see a mod or ROM that allows this for all apps, much like this mod for the ipad.

[Q] Nexus player ubuntu

Is it possible for the nexus player to run Ubuntu 14.10 on it only? Instead of android?

jkfde said:
Is it possible for the nexus player to run Ubuntu 14.10 on it only? Instead of android?
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u may be able to shoehorn ubuntu onto it, but my question is why?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy This apparently works

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u may be able to shoehorn ubuntu onto it, but my question is why?
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Because you could then get a fully-functional, low-cost Linux computer for the cost of Nexus Player hardware ($49).

philhachey said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy This apparently works
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Because you could then get a fully-functional, low-cost Linux computer for the cost of Nexus Player hardware ($49).
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doing a chroot would be a better idea, then u won't have to deal with possible driver problems and u can still use Android like philhachey suggested

swordrune10 said:
doing a chroot would be a better idea, then u won't have to deal with possible driver problems and u can still use Android like philhachey suggested
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Would I be able to install on my flashdirve I've been thinking about doing this to mine I recently picked up a pny 128gb

nikkifm said:
Would I be able to install on my flashdirve I've been thinking about doing this to mine I recently picked up a pny 128gb
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it is possible, i have my chromebook with ubuntu on a flashdrive as a chroot.

swordrune10 said:
it is possible, i have my chromebook with ubuntu on a flashdrive as a chroot.
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Thank you for the reply back how do you like it on there? Any guides in about going on this I'm not to fimliair with Linux commands enough unless if I remember it does it automatically

nikkifm said:
Thank you for the reply back how do you like it on there? Any guides in about going on this I'm not to fimliair with Linux commands enough unless if I remember it does it automatically
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honestly i used the crouton script, for the nexus player u WILL have to use an app to do it for u, to get sound, x11, and everything else to play nicely. im sure it could be done manually but i can imagine that would be a headache
EDIT: oh, for the usb part i did a symlink for the chroot folder

swordrune10 said:
honestly i used the crouton script, for the nexus player u WILL have to use an app to do it for u, to get sound, x11, and everything else to play nicely. im sure it could be done manually but i can imagine that would be a headache
EDIT: oh, for the usb part i did a symlink for the chroot folder
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Hopefully there is a guide somewhere around here I could use. Also thought about trying to get debain Groot to run again mess around with that see if that will be easier or benefit for my needs to had it but updated np
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nikkifm said:
Hopefully there is a guide somewhere around here I could use. Also thought about trying to get debain Groot to run again mess around with that see if that will be easier or benefit for my needs to had it but updated np
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sounds good, messing with that stuff is fun