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Larger Battery (without larger back plate)

Hi Guys
My friend has a touch HD and recently bought a larger battery from ebay (an 1800mah) but its not one of the larger ones which requires a new expanded back plate for the phone. I was wondering if anything like this was available for the Jade, probably around the 15-1600 mah mark?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Jakai

DX have it:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27004

Sorry buddy that looks like the same ones off ebay to me, with the larger back plate (making the phone fat!)
I can't imagine the one I'm looking for being over 1800mah or so, due to size. What I'm really after is a more powerful battery but at the same dimensions as the current one.
Anyone else shed any light? To make it more difficult, ideally located in the UK

That is impossible. To get more power the battery needs to be bigger.

nicodbgh said:
DX have it:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27004
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This same shop has a 1300Ma version, looks to be same form-factor
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23977

That looks exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Now just need to find a dealer in UK or something on ebay. Thanks for your help!

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Let us know when you find a source closer to Europe. I am interested too for a Touch Cruise!

I've bought one off of ebay for about £7 with free delivery from hong kong, with free delivery! not too shabby I'll let u know how it performs once its arrived.

Says in the review on that link that it doesnt last as well as the standard one

It was only cheap so I guess we'll see. The sheer fact that its higher capacity would suggest it will last longer.
I'm expecting delivery hopefully this week but probably mid next week.

I bough some 2500 mAh NiMh batteries off ebay, my charger measured the best ones at 500 mAh, some where only 350 mAh. With batteries, stick to known brands if you want the best performance.
As nicodbgh said, its impossible. The chemistry in a Li-Ion battery requires a certain amount of volume per Ah, this is not going to be improved on, not significantly anyway. New chemistry may come along that is better, but it won't be Li-Ion.

Battery arrived on saturday and I've put it in the phone. The battery looks identical to the standard HTC one (even has the same "HTC Innovation" text on the front) except that its 1300mah (opposed to the original 1100mah)
It took longer to charge (abut 6 hours) but its only the first cycle. I'll use it this week and see if I notice any jump in battery life.

Update
And the verdict is:
Absolutely rubbish! It takes much longer to charge than the standard battery and so far I haven't had more than 1.5 days of use out of it, thats maybe 10 minutes of calls and 5-10 texts, few mins of internet. I have push mail and data connection constantly turned on and usually get around 3 days out of the standard 1100mah.
Bit of a dissapointment as I would have liked extra life (an extra day) but it was only cheap and at least now we all know. I speak on behalf of the larger batteries with the extended back plate but my advice is stick with the original battery over the 1300mah one.
Hope this is helpful to others.

JaKai said:
And the verdict is:
Absolutely rubbish! It takes much longer to charge than the standard battery and so far I haven't had more than 1.5 days of use out of it, thats maybe 10 minutes of calls and 5-10 texts, few mins of internet. I have push mail and data connection constantly turned on and usually get around 3 days out of the standard 1100mah.
Bit of a dissapointment as I would have liked extra life (an extra day) but it was only cheap and at least now we all know. I speak on behalf of the larger batteries with the extended back plate but my advice is stick with the original battery over the 1300mah one.
Hope this is helpful to others.
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This is the problem with "no name" batteries. Perhaps it gets better after a few charging cycles.

HTC response on short Battery Life: Expect it!

I wrote to HTC to ask how they measured their "up to 490 hours on Standby" and "up to 380 mins talk time" referred to in their HD2 website specification especially as people like myself were experiencing the battery going flat in <24 hours with almost zero usage of the phone.
Here's their official reply.
Thank you for your email. The specifications that you have referenced are laboratory test conditions, and are not indicative of real-world performance, nor do they take into account the considerable drain incurred by the myriad services and programs that run as a matter of course on Windows Mobile 6.5, as well as any other background applications that may be running, which may not be readily apparent. Please be advised that these laboratory test figures are in line with EU regulations concerning the testing of mobile device batteries, and the real-world battery time that you have quoted of 20-24 hours is well within what we would expect of this device. We have recently released a large capacity battery for use with the HD2, and this can be purchased from the following link :- http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195058
So in simple terms, we mislead you in our advertising and you'll be lucky to get the battery to last 24 hours. We can't fix it so buy a bigger battery!
What's the point in publishing performance data that has no relationship to "real-world" conditions. Most customers won't be using the phone in a laboratory.
Perhaps we should start a new campaign to get HTC to be more honest about "real-world" expectations.

Bobins24 said:
What's the point in publishing performance data that has no relationship to "real-world" conditions. Most customers won't be using the phone in a laboratory.
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Because as they said that measurement procedure is a standard that everybody follows, so it would be stupid to do it differently, why "not lie" when everybody does so (and they actually probably wouldn't be allowed to do it differently).

Bobins24 said:
I wrote to HTC to ask how they measured their "up to 490 hours on Standby" and "up to 380 mins talk time" referred to in their HD2 website specification especially as people like myself were experiencing the battery going flat in <24 hours with almost zero usage of the phone.
Here's their official reply.
Thank you for your email. The specifications that you have referenced are laboratory test conditions, and are not indicative of real-world performance, nor do they take into account the considerable drain incurred by the myriad services and programs that run as a matter of course on Windows Mobile 6.5, as well as any other background applications that may be running, which may not be readily apparent. Please be advised that these laboratory test figures are in line with EU regulations concerning the testing of mobile device batteries, and the real-world battery time that you have quoted of 20-24 hours is well within what we would expect of this device. We have recently released a large capacity battery for use with the HD2, and this can be purchased from the following link :- http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195058
So in simple terms, we mislead you in our advertising and you'll be lucky to get the battery to last 24 hours. We can't fix it so buy a bigger battery!
What's the point in publishing performance data that has no relationship to "real-world" conditions. Most customers won't be using the phone in a laboratory.
Perhaps we should start a new campaign to get HTC to be more honest about "real-world" expectations.
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What can i say........except that HTC should look in to the real world more often!

I use many phones, from htc, and from other company , my last two nokia phones was "business versions" with "everlasting" battery - first e65 least 40h , second - better version - only 22h ( e66) - it's normal - in this world

If HTC say it's a standard EU process, then perhaps we should campaign to get the EU standard changed as the current published figures give no indication of the phones real performance.
Don't get me wrong, I love the phone but I've never seen one like this go flat in such a short time when on standby.

i love how they say it lasts up to 490 hours on standby, but 24 hours is what they would expect
it's actually ridiculous how deceitful these companies are, we deserve better than this
it's not right that they lie right to our faces to what we are getting and how we have no rights
just not right.

I think we need a bit of a reality check here. I'm not especially inclined to defend HTC but they have a point about the stuff that may be running on the phone. Anyone who has tried some new toys must have encountered one that sucks the life out of the battery for no obvious reason - scale that down and extrapolate across a raft of apps that most of us here will have on our phones and you will get a host of variations in terms of battery life...which is exactly what we do get.
Secondly, as kilrah said, that's the way battery life is measured. Instead of whining about it we should treat it as a relative indicator against other phones because that's about all it is good for. I suspect most say 'up to...' in small letters in front of their stand by and talk times anyway.
If I were to buy a car because the specs say that it does 40 miles to the gallon I'd be a mug to expect it to do that when I'm thrashing down the motorway towing a trailer with the windows and sun roof open. But I might well buy it in preference to a car that claims 30 mpg because in the long run it will probably cost me less in running costs.
You pays your money and you takes your choice...I don't personally see any significant misrepresentation in this, but there may be a little end user misunderstanding?

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No surprise here. I observed the same discrepancy on all my phones till now - Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, Siemens, Ericsson, Sony Ericsson, HTC.
Actually I use my phone a lot and I'm more than happy with its performance so far - huge and bright screen, powerful CPU... What are your expectations? 48 hours? A week?
If you think, this is something impressive, go and buy yourself a new monitor and then just measure the advertised contrast ratio - 10000:1 ? Seriously? In fact it is only 700:1. Nothing more to say.
Watch Out: Crazy Contrast Ratios

Exact. And especially on smartphones it's absolutely impossible for the manufacturer or a standards organisation to imagine how you will use your device.
If they can quote anything, it's stock configuration, open the box, put sim card in, press power on, enter your pin, put phone in standby, leave it there, note how long it lasts. That's all.
Knowing that you can do so many things on it, install so many programs that can do what they want to the phone, and that depending on usage the battery life can vary anywhere between 2 hours and 4 days it's totally impossible, by whatever means, to quote something realistic.

When you buy a WM device (or any other Lith-Ion device for that matter) you should know what to expect with regards to battery life, it's not rocket science.
Lithium-Ion batteries are poor, until battery technology is improved it's what we should have come to expect.

That's a bit simplistic, knowing that firstly there's nothing better yet, and secondly the good old phones we had that were lasting a whole week were also using the same batteries or even worse NiMH ones.
It's a combination of a lot of things.

battery life
I turned htc sense off on my phone and now the battery lasts 2-2.5 days with what i would deem reasonable use ie using the internet checking emails texting and 4 or 5 calls a day , if i turn sense back on the battery life drops to about 15 hours so i can live without sense !!! Im far more concerned about the speaker problems and pink photos than the battery )

kilrah said:
That's a bit simplistic, knowing that firstly there's nothing better yet, and secondly the good old phones we had that were lasting a whole week were also using the same batteries or even worse NiMH ones.
It's a combination of a lot of things.
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I assume you are replying to me?
After having 4 HTC devices, I didn't expect anything more from the HD2 than I got from the Wizard or my Kaiser or my Diamond, if anything it was obviously going to be poorer due to the huge screen, hardware and all the software I knew I would be using.

I think your best chance of getting their claimed hours would be by:
1. Completely charging the battery;
2. Use a bare-bone ROM with absolutely nothing installed
3. Switching off all radio signals.. (that is, put the phone in flight mode so that the phone is not transmitting like wireless, bluetooth or anything else at all...)
4. leaving the phone on standby with the screen off.
Of course, noone uses their phone like that, but HTC have used the term "up to" to protect themselves...
HTC would be stupid to change the way they rate their times since every other company is using the same method. I doubt anyone would want to buy a phone that says "Standby Up to 24hours" when every other phone has "Standby Up to 500hours" At best, the rated hours could be used as a comparison/indicator against other phones.

I'm celebrating two weeks into life with my HD2, and after suffering water damage with my HD which had no effect except to bring battery life down to 8 hours a day, I'm really pleased with my 24-28 hours of battery life.
On days I'm using it a lot, I expect 15 hours. However the other day I barely touched the phone (no calls, no music, no random turning on the screen) and I was on 65% after 24 hours, which I felt was good.
I agree with the OP, their quotes are a joke, but I don't look at specs, I look at reviewers to tell me "I expect a day's life from this phone" etc. when I choose a phone. With a screen this size I don't expect miracles, but again, it does feel like a blatant lie when they suggest the phone can sit for weeks without dying, and i give manufacturers (including HTC) no credit for being economical with the truth to their customers.

My SEX1 used to last a few hours more, having a smaller screen, larger battery, and less than half the processor. They specced same timings, as I said I got a few hours more. I doubt Iphone or any other manufacturer, will spec their device like, Standby time 24hrs, talk time 4 hrs. Who would buy such a device?
Anyway I didn't expect it to last any longer. Good thing is I'm in front of my pc for long hours, no harm in letting the phone plugged in.

Isn't draining the Li-Ion actually shortens the battery life?
I'm told that letting the battery get lower than 2.3v isn't a good thing.
Let the battery get low, but not low enough for auto-shutdown

It's called Business Opportunity
All companies all over the world is like HTC.
Whenever there is a problem, they will direct you to purchase something to "solve" the problem.
HD2 problem that we are facing is poor battery performance (if you enable non-Sense). "Solution" is to buy bigger capacity battery.
Problem : screen easily crack
HTC "solution" : tampered glass screen (if HTC would advertise...)
Problem : Screen too sensitive
HTC "solution" : special screen protector (if HTC would advertise...)
Problem : this, that, this , that,
HTC "solution" : you pay, we gain profit!
That's the real world scenario....
Conclusion : HTC = poor quality product(s) at expensive price.

rickyoon.vegas said:
I'm told that letting the battery get lower than 2.3v isn't a good thing.
Let the battery get low, but not low enough for auto-shutdown
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Auto forced shutdown is at 3.6V, which has a lot of margin not to cause damage.
HD2 problem that we are facing is poor battery performance (if you enable non-Sense). "Solution" is to buy bigger capacity battery.
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Sensible solution: if you want battery life of more than 1-2 days, do not get a smartphone, especially not one that has the fastest processor on the market and a 4.3" screen. And read reviews that will tell you "you'll get 1-2 days" and "it lasts just a bit more than an iphone". I.e. Educate yourself.
Problem : screen easily crack
HTC "solution" : tampered glass screen (if HTC would advertise...)
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Sensible solution: Realise you have a large piece of GLASS in front of you, and take care of it as such. Don't drop it, don't sit on it,...
We know how the HD2 behaves. If you read a couple of reviews, you know too. If you now buy it and still complain, there's not much we, or HTC, can do for you.

HD2 Replacement Battery

Hi guys im pritty new here so bare with me lol.
Im looking for a larger capacity battery for me HTC HD2 as the one i got standard barely lasts a day which is pathetic, even after i disabled background connections, reduced backlight, turned of auto weather updates, changed rom etc...
so i found on ebay these three different batteries with bigger mah but crucially dont need a new cover on the back, cause i hate the official larger cap battery with kick stand. So i was wondering if anyone had tried any of these or which looks best:
1350Mah-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-1350-mAH-...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item5d2882f304
1600Mah-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1600mah-Batte...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item35a7eb97e3
1500Mah-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1500mAh-Batte...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item3a5929d522
Thanks for any help and awesome forum guys

Check the accessories subforum, the battery discussions are there. The 1600mAh battery was measured equal to stock, others seem to be the same as well.

I think there was a much larger one with a swing out foot, I guess so you can watch long movies on it. http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/05/htc-hd2-extended-battery-gets-its-close-up-lower-price/

Basically, even 1600mAh batteries from Andida is near equal in performance to OEM Battery capacity.
There is an extended battery from HTC that has near double the capacity and a kickstand. it makes your phone thicker though.

mknewman said:
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Read what he said... he does not want that.

oh. I ended up reiterating your post...oops. needs to refresh before posting after idle.

OT here, anyway the fourth oem battery I bought off chinese dealers on ebay, all in all equal to original in the exterior, is at its second day of usage (put it in at 100% before going to bed the day before yesterday) and has 43% charge left. Used the phone normally, some manga reading, some browsing, some access to excel/database app, reminders/morning alarms, few calls... all in all, very good for a 3€ battery (costed me 6€ equivalent shipping included to buy a couple of them...)

allright thanks guys cheers for the help, i guess for this money you carnt complain lol
(And il try and post in the right section next time)

A Complaint Letter to HTC - Battery Life

I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.

JohnnyRebel said:
I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.
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I will do the same HTC India as well

Great News
Sheldon.mathews said:
I will do the same HTC India as well
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Glad to hear it, I hope more follow suit. The way I see it is the XDA forums in the Desire HD section gets an astonishing number of hits. If even 1 out of every 500 people that just read the Desire HD threads write a complaint in regards to a battery it will have a swift impact on a battery upgrade option for the desire hd.

Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho

Scarey to think about eh?
Drakknar said:
Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho
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Never quite looked at it that way but maybe it is a HTC conspiracy. Give them just enough to keep them coming back. Regardless I hope you voice you concern to HTC too and maybe we'll see that 1500/1600 mAh battery in the near future.

You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.

No offense, but I seriously hope you wrong!
dr.m0x said:
You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
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There is no doubt a new flag ship is just around the corner. And yes I've heard the density argument several times, but I'm praying they still have a trick or two up their sleeves that they have yet to reveal. ;0) Besides, it can never hurt to take a shot even when the odds look overwhelming. But hey who knows, when they respond to me they might just admit I'm SOL. We'll see what the future reveals.

Glad you're happy.
springy said:
I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.
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A day and a half and I'd be ecstatic. I get a full day too, but refrain from allot of the everyday tasks I'd also like to accomplish. I spend 14-16hrs away from home 5-6days a week. Normally by the time I return home my phone is warning me about 15% battery. Yes I could charge it while in my car, yes I could swap batteries (but I HATE the battery cover), and finally yes I could plug it into an outlet for awhile (abandoning my contact with 99.9% of the world) . To me 1230mAh seems exceptionally low for a smart phone doesn't it? Especially is you design one with such a power hungry screen? There are tons of things I do love about this phone and I mean tons. But in a year if this isn't resolved I'll remember it as the awesome phone that ate batteries. Lastly though all I can say is thank god for all the brilliant developers who are coming up with commendable ways to stretch our battery life further. And shame on HTC for just standing by on the sidelines.

The thing is, I don't think anything can really be done to make a battey big enough. Yes you can buy some 1300mAH - 1600mAH but they tend to be worse then the 1230mAH we have in the DHD. The software can be optimised but the main thing is the screen. To be honest, the DHD had a design flaw, a slot that was not big enough to house a battery that can contain more than 1230mAH. The only way we can go forward is hope that new battery technology comes out soon, but this is around 3-5 years away from current experiments technology from what I have seen...
But also, other phones are in the same situations. All battery of under 2000mAH will be terrible. Phones if you want it to last would need at least 10000mAH in my opinion, and again we are around 3-5 years away from this happening at the earliest for a credible solution..

Hate to say it but complaining will be fruitless as htc already have your money.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

Yes, there is no point complaining because they have no obligation to comply. Even if they really have the technology to provide a better battery, it simply not a viable business strategy to design a new battery for a phone that soon to be replace by next generation of androids. Its not just HTC, every business is like this, they provide a good product, but always reserve better for the next product cycle. Thats why most updated technology usually takes 5-10years to actually reach consumer market.

I don't think the battery of the HTC Desire HD is so bad, I easy get about 1 day and 12 hours with all options on, ofcourse I don't use battery comsuming apps like twitter, I mean if you are so active with a phone then most smartphones will barely make the day.
I think we should be happy that the battery is removeable, just look at the iPhone, the battery is not removeable and to extend the battery life they need use a external battery, no thanks then I rather carry one spare battery with me for just in case I would need it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...nes-could-run-for-months-between-charges.html
That is the technology I head about 6 months ago... now widely reported... this is what will solve our battery problem... Having 1500mAH won't do anything about from extend the life for a few hours.
Too bad we are 3-5 years for it to get anywhere near market consumption

omg
really the battery in the htc desire hd is hopeless....

Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/

JohnnyRebel said:
I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential...
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This obviously doesn't solve the root cause, but if you're willing to spend around 50 USD google for something like "PB-5000 Phone Charger", it's 5000mAh...

my Desire HD has the exact same issue, with only 10-12 hrs maximum with half the features off. i am seriously considering buying the HTC Desire, just for the sake of the battery.
there is a very easy and acceptable solution for this problem. can't they make a charging case or a charging cover or a case holding the 2nd battery being in action for the HTC Desire HD? they have done it for the iPhone. i have mailed so many companies with this idea (including mugen and HTC), however no one replied.
I also have a question: how much does LeeDroid improve the battery issue??? as in how many more hrs does it give me?
Thanks, Best Regards, Android Asim

Trouble? Not so much.....
What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.

dhiral.v said:
Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/
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Sounds pretty good. I like my DHD and all its awesome functions but having to be so careful about battery consumption really is a pain in the ***. The phone's screen is pretty darn nice to look at, but I have it set to 25% brightness just to keep consumption down a bit. Seriously, using the DHD's screen for 4 hours the battery is almost empty.
I'd really have no problem settling with a 'less pretty' screen if it would mean I could use my phone for more than 4 hours a day.
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What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.
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My typical use during a day:
-Unplug it at around 8:00
-Making calls for about 30 minutes
-Sending ~25 SMS
-Internet for about 2 hours (1 hour wifi and 1 hour 3G/H)
-Listening to music for about 1 hour
-Checking my awesome team in RunFootball ~5 times a day
-Plug it in at around 22:00
At 22:00, the battery is usually down to below 15%. I have GPS, BT, wifi and 3G off unless actively using them. With my screen brightness set at a low 25% the maximum screen time I can get out off my DHD is 4 hours. There are no rogue apps running in the background.
Honestly, a phone with this type of power consumption needs atleast an 1800mAh battery to last me through a day without me worrying about it.

Larger capacity battery from HTC

Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.

That would be amazing!

Ain't gonna happen, thats my guess.
HTC don't win anything with this and i don't think its even possible because of the fixed alu. housing. They can't make it bigger.
New phones arrive soon, so they not gonna put effort in making a bigger battery.
My 2 cents.

Post a link with that info.

i hope they do come out with that. it should be 1500 mah in the first place

I emailed HTC about a month ago, Nada. But they said they're investigating the battery life

I saw some batteries on Ebay, but I think they are cheap batteries, it can be dangerous...

don't trust the third party batteries, they don't perform well.

mjehan said:
Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
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I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.

Wekko306 said:
I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
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I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.

This is not an htc brand. There is a thread discussing screen issues that was caused by a similar battery expanding after several charges and pressing against the screen. Personally I would stay clear of non branded battery - its not worth the risk.
Htcpedia is not related to htc.
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Howling Wolf said:
I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
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These aren't official HTC batteries and if they are similar to the ones being discussed, endlessly, in the accessories section are inferior to the stock HTC batteries and unlikely to offer any gain in battery life, but please report back but give the batteries at least 7-10 days of normal use before offering any realistic feedback.

Well, you managed to scare me... I thought HTCPedia was serious enough not to sell or advertise garbage.
It cost me less than 20€ (about 28 USD). I'll give it a try around 7-10 days right, but will most probably remove it if I encounter screen issues.

Yep picture looks exactly like the one I got from a UK supplier and has swollen enough to press against the inside of the phone
Did it last longer. Ermm yes and probably about 30% longer but over the two months I have had it performance has dropped below that of the original so personally I have been unsuccessful and will be sticking with the original HTC one

Id buy this but the battery life isnt as bad as it used to be. Its probably got something to do with HTC shipping their batteries uncalibrated or maybe Im just getting used to owning a smartphone

Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..

Just do some tweak and it will save ur battery life longer..bigger capacity just giving it more juicer but that is not far different from original. I think just flash to new recommended ROM + Radio to get the best result

Battery lasts nearly 2 days for me with moderate use on standard HTC battery.
You just got to get the phone set up right or go the custom rom route to get even better battery life.

FManning23 said:
Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
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Net yet.. Battery Technology has hit a brick wall at the moment and basically what you have now is the best out there...
However there are some clever stuff happening. There is one which I particularly from last year
http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/energy/2761-mit-nanotube-batteries-.html
However we are still at least 5 years away from this entering the market in my opinion...

Just try and buy an extra battery if you really need more juice