Hi folks,
I'm new to a WinMo device with build in GPS.
But does the Xperia's GPS work as a normal Navigator GPS? or is it just (simple) A-GPS?
I'm confused with this
And if this is a true gps, why can't I use Google Maps or wayfinder without Wifi or 3G connection?
I hope someone can explain this to me :-s
Thanks
X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...
Mopral said:
X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...
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Oh that's the reason
Thanks :-D
I thought you can point your location via Google Maps with A-GPS
Like on iPhone 3G ...
Anyway, was planning to install TomTom
Thanks for the explanation
Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.
Strob said:
Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.
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Okidoki
Thanks for your answer
wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first
leobox1 said:
wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first
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I did that yesterday.
Via PC transfered my area into my phone.
but it keeps asking about connecting with..Something..not sure it asks for GPS or Wifi
the icons on the titlebar show if a connection is don using gprs or wifi
the manual have pictures how each connection display as icons
Somehow I can't get my GPS to work on MapKing. Almost made me wonder if X1 only had AGPS.
Has anybody noticed that if you use the gps status app before you use the google maps that the gps connect quicker for any app using gps such as maps, weather, where, etc... until phone reset.
When I run google maps first gps would just search for several minutes and sometimes wouldn't even find the location. So for anyone with gps issue probably try the gps status app from the market first.
I'm wondering if the gps status and google maps access the epic 4g gps differently... just a thought
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I did what you suggested and indeed the gps locked much faster on google maps when I used GPS status first.
three epics here. extensive GPS testing over weeks now.
what you are seeing is gps status forcing aGPS vs "use wireless location, whcih is not aGPS.
If your ephemeris is new or has been cleared (the Epics main problem is not clearing ephemeris) you get an aGPS lock in seconds on GPS/aGPS only application like GPS status. But on application that can use either location method, the non GPS Use wireless networks" or the GPS, it often tries to get a wireless tower location first.
I get the identical affect by turning off the tower based system by keeping "Use wireless networks" normally off. this gives me instant aGPS locks five to ten seconds in proper conditions at all ties with cold start enabled.
had installed Sygic Mobile with Mapmyindia maps.
I have installed the software and maps, but the problem with the software is that it keeps on displaying "Waiting for valid signal" on the device and does not find any GPS sattelite. Have tried to wait for upto 1 hour but it still does not find any GPS signal.
Please note i am also using Google Maps on my mobile and it has no issues in finding the GPS satellite.
I am using Samsung Galaxy 3 Apollo (i5801) mobile with Android 2.1 OS.
Mapmyindia support replied me suggesting me to change GPS hardware settings to "Autodetect" in Settings menu. Funny, because there is no GPS hardware settings that can be changed to Autodetect, in the App.
I used the sygic assistent to install the App.
I had the same thing. I reinstalled it and now it works fine.
Does anyone know why everytime I use the navigation software that came with my gtab says it needs a data connection? When it was stock i had used it several times on the road, now it just closes if I dont have a data connection? If i iuse the sygic trial the gps works< so why doesnt the one tht came with the tab work?
Your maps need to be cached to get offline navigation. When connected to wifi click on maps then click menu on top right then select LABS then check enable cache
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The root of the last update made me to do many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
gflorezarroyo said:
The root of the last update made me to do many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
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Yes hello, this exact same thing is happening for me...
Prior to this new firmware update, I had been using a Global Sat external gps with Bluetooth GPS Provider (Mobilej.de) and it had successfully connected and gained location activity, after enabling mock settings with "KFHD xSettings", for use with maps applications (in my case for aviation moving maps Avare & Air Navigation Pro). Now with the recent 7.3.0 update, this no longer works and the Bluetooth provider app immediately has lost connection and is stopped. Additionally, these apps continually tell me that location-provider setting is turned off, even though it is shown as "ON".
Have you found a work around yet for this update? Are you saying that the other app by Michael Chourdakis is working and providing gps connection?
Yes, it fails one or two times to connect, you must insist. Then suddenly, it links and begins to receive coordinates and stay connected properly.
You must let it in the background like the other app.
Now, way to home, I will prove its accuracy...
I forgot the link to the app:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/turboirc.btgps.apk.zip or http://ubuntuone.com/3yq3ZJKWIvB7Rss37BFE1k
edit: (thanks to prokennexusa)
hello thanks for the app link!
I just tried it after installing in \system\app folder. it does establish connection and says it receives coordinate information, but when I open map applications they say no location available. Or no GPS service.
Are you getting the same? have you successfully used a gps application with your bluetooth dongle?
It is not necessary to install it in System/app but if it works for you...., Once you see the name of the dongle and the coordinates, you must exit with the home button, not with the arrow one, to make the app run in the background. Edit: no, it doesn't closes by itshelf. Is necesary to stop it in configuration....
Then, sliding down the finger by the upper part of the screen you can see a notification that the GPS is working and an GPS icon near the bluetooth symbol is visible. Edit: No, is the android system who shows that alerts when the navigator(whichever you use) request "location" ...
Yes, I have "Mock locations" activated with "KFHD xSettings" (courtesy of 0xD34D), but it works for me with or without "internal location-provider" set.
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I'm testing now the "Alpine quest hiking" app, but by the day I will do with Tom-tom.
The experience has been a bitter relief, as this "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Turboirc) app seems to be the only remaining solution to tie GPSs and Kindles, but the program hasn't options and loses signal occasionally, just only a second fortunately. Accuracy is good.
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The "original" "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Mobilej) behaviour has changed, in doesn't hangs now, only announces that has been closed and, curiously only if you install it normally(not system/app), lets you a feedback with the creator to send him errors. I will prove if he or they can fix it in between.
later I will show more tests....
Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
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Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
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^Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information. I got it to connect with position initially but does not continually update data in intervals like the mobilej.de version had. As a result, the gps apps get hung up or stop without this feed of coordinate data.
i suppose I will just use my phone in the mean time, until maybe a new firmware update will change this issue!
I've sideloaded Avare, a free superb navigator, for planes!. It doesn't reads the "GPS Provider" app, but neither hangs. Tomtom seems to work, but its raining here and the test must wait to my way home, later.
By car, friends....
hokie152 said: "Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information"
Not so easy, it seems some apps see the information and others no. "Alpine quest" works, so the provider app is feeding.
hokie152. If you need GPS to fly, do it as you said by tethering from your phone.............. or downgrade to 7.2.3 and lock updates.....
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GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
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But be aware of Bluetooth not working properly, yet (Bug)
Definitively Tomtom works with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turboirc) on 7.3.0. Has the same glitches every now and then like Alpine Quest, but it brings you to home and alerts you of radars.....
Another bluetooth gps provider named..... BlueGPS4android, installs but I cant make it work:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluegps4droid/?source=dlp
Bluegps4android works in my phone, but all versions offered refuse to tie in Kindle.
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I've find an app that connects DIRECTLY with the GPS dongle without a provider app. Its name is Trekbuddy, side-loaded from Google Market.
Is a complex program that needs some study, but apparently it works, I don't know if can be used to fly....
To hokie152:
I've installed Air Navigation Pro, and it seems to react and receive some coordinates if you have set "wifi location" with or without wifi. Later I'll take the car and test it. My bluetooth dongle is a cheap and outdated Zaapa Touch(only 5 euros!).
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
gflorezarroyo said:
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
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I will try connecting Air Navigation Pro using Bluetooth GPS Provider by turboir and see if I have the same results "with or without WIFI". I have seen the little plane before rotate in circles when you stop moving (at zero velocity). It displays your location but has no direction of motion so it cannot hold a proper heading. Thanks!
I mean that I think this program inject coordinates(mock locations) to the system, so its necessary that location services are working, ie the approximate location by wifi used by our Kindle. Happy Fly!
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Now I'm making a map of my way to home to test Trekbuddy reading directly from my dongle gps..... to test if it isn't guilty of the glitches.