Hi folks,
I'm new to a WinMo device with build in GPS.
But does the Xperia's GPS work as a normal Navigator GPS? or is it just (simple) A-GPS?
I'm confused with this
And if this is a true gps, why can't I use Google Maps or wayfinder without Wifi or 3G connection?
I hope someone can explain this to me :-s
Thanks
X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...
Mopral said:
X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh that's the reason
Thanks :-D
I thought you can point your location via Google Maps with A-GPS
Like on iPhone 3G ...
Anyway, was planning to install TomTom
Thanks for the explanation
Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.
Strob said:
Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okidoki
Thanks for your answer
wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first
leobox1 said:
wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did that yesterday.
Via PC transfered my area into my phone.
but it keeps asking about connecting with..Something..not sure it asks for GPS or Wifi
the icons on the titlebar show if a connection is don using gprs or wifi
the manual have pictures how each connection display as icons
Somehow I can't get my GPS to work on MapKing. Almost made me wonder if X1 only had AGPS.
Related
is there any navitagor that DONT use GPS or data connection (wifi/gprs/3g..)??
i just want to see the map of my city and do routes, is it possible?
thnx
Garmin XT doesn't use data connection, and you can browse the map. but you have to have the maps installed to the PDA.
I don't know of any free software that doesn't use the data connection to download maps
I have TomTom 7 and i turned off all phone and data connections and was still able to use GPS.. its becaude tomtom doesnt need to access the internet to download sny maps.. your map is on your sd card.. gps satelite is free..
try it.. it sure beats routing your trips like yahoo or google maps..
Use Google Maps.
^^Google Maps uses the Data connection..............
I use MioMap and it doesn't use the data connection...the maps are on my SD card...and I like how you can d/l each state etc individually
MS Pocket Streets.
I used to have it when I did not have Data Connection.
It has been discontinued. it came with MS Streets and trips back in 2006
If you use your immagination, you might be able to find a cracked copy
most (dedicated) navigation systems can work without a gps signal or receiver.
AthenaLod said:
most (dedicated) navigation systems can work without a gps signal or receiver.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can you elaborate a bit please??? Most navigation systems have to use either GPS, GPRS or some other form of data connection to calculate position, route, etc...
i used iGO 2006 with no gps,just maps...on magician
now i use iGO 8 on artemis,with gps
and iGO 8 on rw6828
iGO works very well even without gps
farukb said:
iGO works very well even without gps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
very good form of navigating when iGo doesn't know where you are
For real navigating (A->B) you have to use GPS or at least an available internet connection, to get your position.
In near future there may be location tracking with cell phone masts, but then iGo (and all other navigation software) only now where you are and not where to go
in tomtom i use advanced planning to tell it where to start and end to give me a route... i usually use it when im indoors where i dont have a gps signal...
i believe any program that has the maps built in should be able to do this..
The Reaper said:
can you elaborate a bit please??? Most navigation systems have to use either GPS, GPRS or some other form of data connection to calculate position, route, etc...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sure... a dedicated gps system like tomtom, garmin, igo, etc has everything it needs to plan a route from point A to point B in the program itself and the maps it comes shipped with. it only uses the gps signal to make it easier for u by not having to enter a start point of a route u need to take or to find points of interest around u (restaurants, gas stations, ...) by using the location it calculates from the gps signal. all such systems are designed to work in places where there are no signals, e.g. tunnels, interior of buildings.
so, if somebody doesn't even have a gps reciever (built-in or bluetooth), hr still can use anyany of these ssytems to plan routes, find points of interests, or browse maps... but, u have to enter ur location manually everytime. and u wouldn't be able to use the turn-by-turn navigation feature that needs to know where u r to be able to tell u the next turn.
I'm pretty sure the following tip is accurate. I received yesterday a new HD, my first having broken just by pressing the screen! I was very relieved that just by reinstalling from memory card all my apps, that the apps settings were still valid - I didn't fancy having to go all through setting up tomtom again with pocketgps camera database and warning tones.
However I did notice that after switching Tomtom on, it was hit and miss whether my unit found any satellites. By going into the satellite status screen, I could see that the software would access the satellites for a few seconds then lose them again. I also noticed that a fix for this was to run google maps first and turn on gps from there.
This was strange, since my previous HD, locked on within seconds every time. Hardware issue? Maybe, but thought I'd try to remember anything I hadn't done on my new HD that I had on my old.
"Ha-Ha" I thought, I haven't run the connection wizard, and this is sort of a connection issue.
Start --> Settings ---> Connection ----> Connection Set Up-----> Tap O.K. ----> restart
Now TomTom works perfectly and picks up connections immediately without google map initiation.
Try it if you having similar troubles!
cheers,
mooro
For me this must be a placebo, neither do I understand why the connection setup has anything to do with the gps chipset, nor does it work me. I have configured my connection using the connection setup and nevertheless I have some gps drops with iGO.
I think this gps drops have some other background, I will try a new radio version. Some people also said that it might help to change the polling interval, but for me neither an increase nor a decrease of the interval has changed anything about it.
Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.
mooro1973 said:
Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nobody has said that placebos don't work, but the reason why they work is controversial. Maybe you have done something else, because I really can't imagine how the connection setup could fix a problem with the gps.
However, its good to know that it runs for you, maybe it will work for me with the new radio also.
How about this theory:
Because you did not do the connection setup yet, the GPS Quickstart had not run yet. So no almanac of GPS satelite data existed yet, meaning it was an icecold start?
And Google Maps worked faster because it is using the 'about' position of the GPS towers to bootstrap the location?
Placebo works only for those that believe in it!
This device is A-GPS capable.
Don't know whether e-plus supports A-GPS services but in theory this might be a clue
I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome
Fallen Spartan said:
Advice welcome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.
Fallen Spartan said:
I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?
I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort. I used to get that a lot running IGO. Now I kill TouchFlo every time before running IGO, and even thought the problems still happens sometimes, it is clearly much less often. You can find the description of how to kill TouchFlo using Mort script in IGO thread. This makes the whole thing clearly better (not perfect).
mooro1973 said:
have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tried both of these.
Yes I can see that satellites are being picked up but both google maps and tomtom don't fix onto any of them. They all just appear grey
Maybe you should try a tool by htc to try and wakeup your gps. Run the file on your HD and from function menu select chip and then q7200. Choose port 4 and baud rate 4800. Then open the port and wait for a gps fix. After that close the port and exit the gps tool. Then run your gps navigator and see if it works!
Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.
I had a similar problem with Advanced Config after I turned on Quick GPS Fix, turning it off seemed to fix it.
michael_r said:
I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think so. My "fix" (as I reported in another thread) is to change baudrate in IGO GPS configuration. After one or few baudrate change, the connection is stable.
No one as reported this fix not working.
So it seem a virtual COM port issue..
rushmpeg said:
Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah !!! Seems to work on my side !! I just spent minutes fighting with my HD this afternoon, still loosing the GPS device... I had to activate one other GPS app to make it work. Now I just changed this setting and it seems to work !!
Thanks for the info ! You're my king
Worked for me by turning off a-gps in HD Tweak and enabling it through the gps app on the rom.
after flashing the 1.10.25.25 radio on my HTC diamond, The GPS signal goes on and off, on and off....continuously on the TomTom GPS status. it was strange, I have to use QuickGPS to download the data again on open air to get the signal on continuously again. If I download the data inside my house, it just go on and off again when I use it on open air.
Hi does the GPS need a data plan to activate?
I can only seem to browse maps w/ GPS when im connected via Wifi or data plan is on.
providence said:
Hi does the GPS need a data plan to activate?
I can only seem to browse maps w/ GPS when im connected via Wifi or data plan is on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The GPS does not need a data plan, however the maps application does. It pulls map data live over the internet.
I would like to see standalone gps nav software come out for android (garmin xt port?)
axion68 said:
The GPS does not need a data plan, however the maps application does. It pulls map data live over the internet.
I would like to see standalone gps nav software come out for android (garmin xt port?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh. thanks for the information.
is there a standalone gps nav software available already? Im guessing it wont be free if such thing exists?
Even if you get off-line GPS software, the GPS driver only tries to sync the almanac data required to get your position when you're actively using the GPS - and it may take up to 12.5 minutes to sync it... So you may be sitting around with the GPS on for 12.5 minutes before you can use it.
Normally it syncs this over the data connection immediately.
First of all i just bought this phone for a day and i knew that it doesnt come out with the map search tab...so i manually download and install it..
Now,whenever i would want to use GPS,it will always connected to either GPRS ,HSDPA or EDGE which requires data charge.....can somebody help me with this as i would only wanna use the built in GPS connection...
Thankz you...
Install nodata (you can find it here in the forum somewhere)
And when you gonna use Google Maps, first start nodata
Ok i started nodata after that disable all options....now there is an error saying no data connection.....can someone really guide me??or is there any gps software that doesnt need any EDGE or GPRS or HSDPA connection???i want a 100 percent GPS.....
faizalhacker said:
First of all i just bought this phone for a day and i knew that it doesnt come out with the map search tab...so i manually download and install it..
Now,whenever i would want to use GPS,it will always connected to either GPRS ,HSDPA or EDGE which requires data charge.....can somebody help me with this as i would only wanna use the built in GPS connection...
Thankz you...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Maps needs a data connection... it downloads the maps as you scroll/move.
If you want something with maps and no data connection then you'll need navigation software like TomTom, etc..
faizalhacker said:
First of all i just bought this phone for a day and i knew that it doesnt come out with the map search tab...so i manually download and install it..
Now,whenever i would want to use GPS,it will always connected to either GPRS ,HSDPA or EDGE which requires data charge.....can somebody help me with this as i would only wanna use the built in GPS connection...
Thankz you...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use quick gps' to download satellite date first,then open ur gps software,setting com4 and 4800port
good luck
Some background....
I had problems with bluetoothing to my Volvo V70 but this was cured by turning off the data connection. When Volvo update their BT rom I can routinely turn it back on/ignore it but....
What will I be losing in the meantime? I understand the weather updates use this connection but what else?
My main worry would be losing the Live services (traffic info, etc.) on the installed CoPilot 8 satnav software pre-installed and now paid for. What am I overlooking?
Cheers, Mark
data gives you everything that isn't a phone call or txt message.
Data is everything that is not Voice or SMS.
mobile internet.
MidnightDraven said:
Data is everything that is not Voice or SMS or GPS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FTFY.... GPS doesn't use data either...
iphoneresister said:
FTFY.... GPS doesn't use data either...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?
pa49 said:
Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GPS applications use the satellite reciever in the phone to calculate position which incurrs no charge.
If you have other services such as live traffic weather, or a satnav application that downloads maps on the fly (like google maps) then you need a data connection.
Unless your just being pedantic...
pa49 said:
Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
Some GPS mapping programs might use data, others not, but the GPS receiver itself is autonomous.
But how can the answer be so complicated anyway? Data connection is your mobile connection to the Internet. So when you're in your car driving around, disabling data stops everything you'd do that requires internet connection. Your live traffic downloads the info from the web, so you can guess...
kilrah said:
Data connection is your mobile connection to the Internet. So when you're in your car driving around, disabling data stops everything you'd do that requires internet connection. Your live traffic downloads the info from the web, so you can guess...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is what I needed - so I will turn off data on local trips or when I need phone connection and enable it on longer trips or when I need to check live services.
Many thanks!
make sure you thoroughly test whatever data off method you use, the hd2 is a determined connection whore.