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Navigator that DONT use gps ou data connection?

is there any navitagor that DONT use GPS or data connection (wifi/gprs/3g..)??
i just want to see the map of my city and do routes, is it possible?
thnx

Garmin XT doesn't use data connection, and you can browse the map. but you have to have the maps installed to the PDA.
I don't know of any free software that doesn't use the data connection to download maps

I have TomTom 7 and i turned off all phone and data connections and was still able to use GPS.. its becaude tomtom doesnt need to access the internet to download sny maps.. your map is on your sd card.. gps satelite is free..
try it.. it sure beats routing your trips like yahoo or google maps..

Use Google Maps.

^^Google Maps uses the Data connection..............
I use MioMap and it doesn't use the data connection...the maps are on my SD card...and I like how you can d/l each state etc individually

MS Pocket Streets.
I used to have it when I did not have Data Connection.
It has been discontinued. it came with MS Streets and trips back in 2006
If you use your immagination, you might be able to find a cracked copy

most (dedicated) navigation systems can work without a gps signal or receiver.

AthenaLod said:
most (dedicated) navigation systems can work without a gps signal or receiver.
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can you elaborate a bit please??? Most navigation systems have to use either GPS, GPRS or some other form of data connection to calculate position, route, etc...

i used iGO 2006 with no gps,just maps...on magician
now i use iGO 8 on artemis,with gps
and iGO 8 on rw6828
iGO works very well even without gps

farukb said:
iGO works very well even without gps
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very good form of navigating when iGo doesn't know where you are
For real navigating (A->B) you have to use GPS or at least an available internet connection, to get your position.
In near future there may be location tracking with cell phone masts, but then iGo (and all other navigation software) only now where you are and not where to go

in tomtom i use advanced planning to tell it where to start and end to give me a route... i usually use it when im indoors where i dont have a gps signal...
i believe any program that has the maps built in should be able to do this..

The Reaper said:
can you elaborate a bit please??? Most navigation systems have to use either GPS, GPRS or some other form of data connection to calculate position, route, etc...
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sure... a dedicated gps system like tomtom, garmin, igo, etc has everything it needs to plan a route from point A to point B in the program itself and the maps it comes shipped with. it only uses the gps signal to make it easier for u by not having to enter a start point of a route u need to take or to find points of interest around u (restaurants, gas stations, ...) by using the location it calculates from the gps signal. all such systems are designed to work in places where there are no signals, e.g. tunnels, interior of buildings.
so, if somebody doesn't even have a gps reciever (built-in or bluetooth), hr still can use anyany of these ssytems to plan routes, find points of interests, or browse maps... but, u have to enter ur location manually everytime. and u wouldn't be able to use the turn-by-turn navigation feature that needs to know where u r to be able to tell u the next turn.

Wifi and GPS questions

I have a limited AT&T data plan, so I don't want to use my Internet connection through the plan too often. So a few questions.
1. If my wifi is on, does that override my AT&T data connection?
2. I installed Google Maps Mobile. It can find my location without GPS using My Location and cell towers. How can I turn my GPS off, so it doesn't transfer data?
Thanks.

Note that the GPS itself does not use the data connection, so it doesn't matter if Google Maps uses it or not. Google Maps is using the network (either WiFi or data) connection to get the map data, and would need it even if it doesn't use GPS for position.
If you were to buy 3rd party navigation software such as TomTom, CoPilot Live, etc., all the map data would be resident on your device and you wouldn't need a data connection unless you wanted to get traffic data.

Turn off gprs. Gps is an option in google maps. I do not need or have agps so this is not really an issue for me

GPS function?

Hi folks,
I'm new to a WinMo device with build in GPS.
But does the Xperia's GPS work as a normal Navigator GPS? or is it just (simple) A-GPS?
I'm confused with this
And if this is a true gps, why can't I use Google Maps or wayfinder without Wifi or 3G connection?
I hope someone can explain this to me :-s
Thanks

X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...

Mopral said:
X1 works as a normal GPS but he has A-GPS function too
Google maps and wayfinder are Offboard GPS. They have to download maps each time you use them
If you want to use you GPS without wifi/3G connection, you must use an Onboard GPS software like Tomtom Navigator, GarminXT, iGo, ...
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Oh that's the reason
Thanks :-D
I thought you can point your location via Google Maps with A-GPS
Like on iPhone 3G ...
Anyway, was planning to install TomTom
Thanks for the explanation

Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.

Strob said:
Yes you can point your position via google map but if there is no map to download, it will ask for maps first and tell you it is not working.
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Okidoki
Thanks for your answer

wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first

leobox1 said:
wayfinder can be used offline... i have done it. load the maps u need via pc first
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I did that yesterday.
Via PC transfered my area into my phone.
but it keeps asking about connecting with..Something..not sure it asks for GPS or Wifi

the icons on the titlebar show if a connection is don using gprs or wifi
the manual have pictures how each connection display as icons

Somehow I can't get my GPS to work on MapKing. Almost made me wonder if X1 only had AGPS.

Idiot question - what is data used for?

Some background....
I had problems with bluetoothing to my Volvo V70 but this was cured by turning off the data connection. When Volvo update their BT rom I can routinely turn it back on/ignore it but....
What will I be losing in the meantime? I understand the weather updates use this connection but what else?
My main worry would be losing the Live services (traffic info, etc.) on the installed CoPilot 8 satnav software pre-installed and now paid for. What am I overlooking?
Cheers, Mark

data gives you everything that isn't a phone call or txt message.

Data is everything that is not Voice or SMS.

mobile internet.

MidnightDraven said:
Data is everything that is not Voice or SMS or GPS.
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FTFY.... GPS doesn't use data either...

iphoneresister said:
FTFY.... GPS doesn't use data either...
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Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?

pa49 said:
Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?
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GPS applications use the satellite reciever in the phone to calculate position which incurrs no charge.
If you have other services such as live traffic weather, or a satnav application that downloads maps on the fly (like google maps) then you need a data connection.
Unless your just being pedantic...

pa49 said:
Then please enlighten us on how it works without it?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
Some GPS mapping programs might use data, others not, but the GPS receiver itself is autonomous.
But how can the answer be so complicated anyway? Data connection is your mobile connection to the Internet. So when you're in your car driving around, disabling data stops everything you'd do that requires internet connection. Your live traffic downloads the info from the web, so you can guess...

kilrah said:
Data connection is your mobile connection to the Internet. So when you're in your car driving around, disabling data stops everything you'd do that requires internet connection. Your live traffic downloads the info from the web, so you can guess...
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That is what I needed - so I will turn off data on local trips or when I need phone connection and enable it on longer trips or when I need to check live services.
Many thanks!

make sure you thoroughly test whatever data off method you use, the hd2 is a determined connection whore.

[Q] GPS hot fix technology exist on android??

Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?

Volis said:
Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
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Search for "gps.config"!

Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data

I am having issues with some builds sometimes to get a fix.
Some android builds make WM GPS not to fix anymore even. The only way to make it work on WM again is to re-flash your radio and not run android again (Android seems to do something to the GPS that makes it stop working on WM).
Perhaps I am wrong but this is my observation.

nuclearfissure said:
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
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Yep looks that..

Thanks, it worked very well for me.

I have also raised this question previously.
With GPS's there are two additional technologies that help with speeding up a lock.
The first often known as QuickGPS. Normally when you GPS finally find its first satellite it needs to download a lot of satellite information including where all the other satellites are in relationship. This can take a minute or so and if it is interrupted will need to restart. Thats why you get a quicker lock when stationary versus moving. What QuickGPS does is download this information via the internet and store it locally.
The second is A-GPS. When your GPS starts it is listening trying to find anyone of over 30 satellites. This can take time. Once it find one satellite it then needs to repeat for another 2 before being able to identify where it is and what other satellites are in the area (From Step 1). What A-GPS does is find out where you are via cell sites etc. Once it has an approx location it then refers to the QuickGPS data to then workout what satellites are in the area. In then proceeds to only try to lock on local ones which is a lot quicker.
All the fixes for the HD2 gps relate to updating the NTP server setting in the GPS conf file. The current setting is fine however refers to an american time server. End of the day it is still going to give you a time sync to within a few milliseconds. Refering to a local NTP (Time Server) will give the exact same data.
Waste of time.
I believe the slow GPS lock is due to one of these technogies not working. I suspect it is a-GPS however have yet to confirm either way that the GPD data is being downloaded and saved in the right place.
Hope this helps.

Yes, I thinking primary about the fist option QuickGPS.. I was able on my HD2 wit win get the GPS lock for 7-10 satelelites in let then 30 second.. without that 5-10 minutes, then I thing is very userfull to have it somehow working on android too..