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Cooked ROM's and GPS

I'm new to this forum, and learned a bit too.. Reading all sorts of posts.
Right now my ActiveSync drops connection when i connect the phone, and first <b>now</b> i realized there is a newer version.. So that's maybe a solution for that.
Well...
I am wondering about the GPS control panel icon... It's not there? Then @ HTC's site, i read they have a new ROM to fix that, so i tried.. it worked, the ROM update.. but no GPS icon still.. :-/ (It was the same image version, i remember, but i had a hope..)
Then...
I've been reading about the homemade ROM's. And something about the EXTENDED memory?
Is there a ROM that will give me the GPS icon, and maybe fix some things/bugs - optimize. And have some fancy pancy thingy programs and stuff? Danish would be preferred though..
My first post.. I will try to get better
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Oh, and something to make the phone like a USB-drive.. If u know what i mean..
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aaarh, when i would like to download some files, it just opens, and dont start downloading.. why? and maybe a fix?
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The sync is still connected... the newer version helps..
Will TOM TOM 6 work fine??
aaand, when pushing the "messages" link on "today screen", sometimes i takes tome time to get in.. why?
I hope someone will answer some of my annoying questions

Nothing?
Did I ask TO newbish?

Yes ensure that you are running the latest activesync. Also are you using personal firewalling software, make sure that the network connection is allowed. ActiveSync connects using a virtual network adaptor, with a network of something like 169.254.2.X.
Make sure you have the most recent ROM from HTC installed on your unit, some of the older ROM's don't have GPS enabled.
GPS is automatically turned on by the unit, hence no off or on control. I personally use TomTom on my 3600i. To get it working make sure that your GPS port settings are the same for your device (Settings, System, External GSP, Programs) & TomTom (Check Preferences, Show GPS Status, Configure).
Ensure that you are standing outside for GPS to connect, it may take up to 6-8 minutes for a cold sync (however should only take ~2 minutes).
To check if your GPS is actually working, go to show GPS status, if you see the message "GPS Device Not Found" it's not working properly, check the above steps again. If you see "No valid GPS signal!" this means your GPS is working, however not yet locked on-to satelites (you might also notice the blue and yellow circle spinning).
I'd recommend you don't touch any other ROMs until you have more experience.
You can see your phone in explorer, look under \My Computer\Mobile Device
Messages taking a while to open, no idea, try a soft reset & see if the problem keeps on happening.
For your future posts, i'd recommend asking only a few questions at a time & make them clear.
PS - My settings for GPS that get TomTom working:
Device - Settings / System / External GPS
Programs tab / GPS program port: COM4
Hardware tab / GPS hardware port COM9 / Baud rate 115200
Access tab / Manage GPS automatically (enabled/selected)
TomTom - Change preferences / Show GPS Status / Configure
Other NMEA GPS receiver / GPS baud rate 115200 / GPS in COM9

Hi Steve
Ask less questions, got it... Maybe it was because I'm new and did not now all this existed and a lot got onto my mind at the same time.
Well, the ActiveSync 'problem' is solved. Newer version was the solution.
I checked the ROM date, and is was older than the date they gave on the HTC site, but when it checked the image version, it said it was the same, but i still updated. But still no GPS icon
- My GPS is working though, with TomTom 6
The "Today - Messages" link is still slow. Sometimes i have to tab several times to get it open - quite annoying.
I could choose COM port when TomTom got installed, and that was GPS on COM9, and baud rate was set up from 4800 to 9600. I will try 115200...
A BIG 'thank you' to you, Steve...
Now i only miss the GPS icon

TezlaByte said:
Nothing?
Did I ask TO newbish?
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To have the GPS Icon showing up, you'll find the registry tweak in the trinity's wiki.
You can also use trinity hack that can be downloaded in this forum too.
Both can do the trick.

Thx riri22
I'll try something out

GPS issues

Now i have Touch HD for about 2 weeks, and my GPS is not working. I tried so much. HTC GPS Tool, TomTom7, iGo8, GPS Test, changing COM Ports, Baudrate and so. But my GPS isn't working. It doesn't found Satelites, and i get no GPS Fix.
Im over with my ideas.
Can someone help me to get the GPS working?
I hope you understand me because I am an Austrian

The first GPS-Fix could take some time.
First I would try this:
connect your Pda to the internet (wifi,...) and download with "quickgps" the local sat-gps-data
then try to connect again with a gps-program.
beware that you must stand outsite, irq is 4. if there's no connection after 15 minutes your settings are broken and it would better to make a hard-reset.
Before installing gps-programs make a backup.
also i would consider to flash an actual rom. the gps works now really much better, also in buildings.
you can use for quick gps testing, i mean without installing an application, mobilemagic. good luck.

I have the current QuickGPS datas and I did 4 hard resets, because i hoped that it would help, but nothing.
I was driving around with my car for about 2 hours but no signal.
And i was testing it with the old Radio Rom 1.09 and the new Radio 1.10. But same issues.

Check to make sure aGPS is turned off and that you are just using GPS.
Also, stand outside without moving when getting a fix. It can take up to 15 minutes as the HD downloads the data from the satellites.
As for settings, using COM Port 4 with baud of 57600 works for me.

I think your description isn't good enough in order to say what is wrong.
The best you can do is to use programs like VisualGPSce or BeeLineGPS.

AGPS is turned off in AdvancedConfig.
VisualGPS and BeeGPS didn't start on my Touch HD
Now i test it with GPSTest and it says "GPS Starting Up" for about 20 minutes

"VisualGPS and BeeGPS didn't start on my Touch HD"
This tells me you have a problem somewhere on your HD, not even gps related (but which does cause also GPS not to work). Have you installend .net 3.5?

Yes .NET Framework 3.5 is installed.
VisualGPSce tells me "Could not initialize communication buffer size"

GPS not recognized

Hi all,
iGo, Google Maps and Copilot won't detect the GPS chip on my HD2 (GER 1.4x whatever stock ROM, but 2.whatever radio) anymore... in GPS settings in controlpanel, hw port is set to none and sw port to com4, but no software detects a GPS chip at COM4.
Anyone knows how to solve this without a hardreset??
the|m.

In the third tab of the gps settings screen, is 'manage GPS automatically' ticked?
(If it is ticked, then it should work, com 4 and none are correct settings,
if it isn't ticked, try ticking it
Has it ever worked?)

yes, it is ticked, and yes, it has worked before (some weeks ago, though)

I've been having increasing problems in the last week with my HD2 not recognising my GPS (mainly with Copilot). Copilot got to the point it would recognise the GPS maybe once every 20 times I started it, but wouldn't find any satellites.
After a couple of hard resets and stuffing around with various settings, disabling A-GPS seems to have solved the problem. Fingers crossed it will stay fixed.

harddisk_wp said:
yes, it is ticked, and yes, it has worked before (some weeks ago, though)
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Did you install the HTC debug tools ?
The same thing happed to me when I installed it, the GPS back to work after I removed it...
If you didn't install that program, try to think what did you change in your device before the GPS stopped working.
Cheers

liamR said:
Did you install the HTC debug tools ?
The same thing happed to me when I installed it, the GPS back to work after I removed it...
If you didn't install that program, try to think what did you change in your device before the GPS stopped working.
Cheers
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yes, i did install them, removing them and softreset fixed the problem... thanks!

[Q] GPS hot fix technology exist on android??

Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?

Volis said:
Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
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Search for "gps.config"!

Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data

I am having issues with some builds sometimes to get a fix.
Some android builds make WM GPS not to fix anymore even. The only way to make it work on WM again is to re-flash your radio and not run android again (Android seems to do something to the GPS that makes it stop working on WM).
Perhaps I am wrong but this is my observation.

nuclearfissure said:
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
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Yep looks that..

Thanks, it worked very well for me.

I have also raised this question previously.
With GPS's there are two additional technologies that help with speeding up a lock.
The first often known as QuickGPS. Normally when you GPS finally find its first satellite it needs to download a lot of satellite information including where all the other satellites are in relationship. This can take a minute or so and if it is interrupted will need to restart. Thats why you get a quicker lock when stationary versus moving. What QuickGPS does is download this information via the internet and store it locally.
The second is A-GPS. When your GPS starts it is listening trying to find anyone of over 30 satellites. This can take time. Once it find one satellite it then needs to repeat for another 2 before being able to identify where it is and what other satellites are in the area (From Step 1). What A-GPS does is find out where you are via cell sites etc. Once it has an approx location it then refers to the QuickGPS data to then workout what satellites are in the area. In then proceeds to only try to lock on local ones which is a lot quicker.
All the fixes for the HD2 gps relate to updating the NTP server setting in the GPS conf file. The current setting is fine however refers to an american time server. End of the day it is still going to give you a time sync to within a few milliseconds. Refering to a local NTP (Time Server) will give the exact same data.
Waste of time.
I believe the slow GPS lock is due to one of these technogies not working. I suspect it is a-GPS however have yet to confirm either way that the GPD data is being downloaded and saved in the right place.
Hope this helps.

Yes, I thinking primary about the fist option QuickGPS.. I was able on my HD2 wit win get the GPS lock for 7-10 satelelites in let then 30 second.. without that 5-10 minutes, then I thing is very userfull to have it somehow working on android too..

7.3.0 update now accepts my GPS.

The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?

gflorezarroyo said:
The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
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Yes hello, this exact same thing is happening for me...
Prior to this new firmware update, I had been using a Global Sat external gps with Bluetooth GPS Provider (Mobilej.de) and it had successfully connected and gained location activity, after enabling mock settings with "KFHD xSettings", for use with maps applications (in my case for aviation moving maps Avare & Air Navigation Pro). Now with the recent 7.3.0 update, this no longer works and the Bluetooth provider app immediately has lost connection and is stopped. Additionally, these apps continually tell me that location-provider setting is turned off, even though it is shown as "ON".
Have you found a work around yet for this update? Are you saying that the other app by Michael Chourdakis is working and providing gps connection?

Yes, it fails one or two times to connect, you must insist. Then suddenly, it links and begins to receive coordinates and stay connected properly.
You must let it in the background like the other app.
Now, way to home, I will prove its accuracy...

I forgot the link to the app:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/turboirc.btgps.apk.zip or http://ubuntuone.com/3yq3ZJKWIvB7Rss37BFE1k
edit: (thanks to prokennexusa)

hello thanks for the app link!
I just tried it after installing in \system\app folder. it does establish connection and says it receives coordinate information, but when I open map applications they say no location available. Or no GPS service.
Are you getting the same? have you successfully used a gps application with your bluetooth dongle?

It is not necessary to install it in System/app but if it works for you...., Once you see the name of the dongle and the coordinates, you must exit with the home button, not with the arrow one, to make the app run in the background. Edit: no, it doesn't closes by itshelf. Is necesary to stop it in configuration....
Then, sliding down the finger by the upper part of the screen you can see a notification that the GPS is working and an GPS icon near the bluetooth symbol is visible. Edit: No, is the android system who shows that alerts when the navigator(whichever you use) request "location" ...
Yes, I have "Mock locations" activated with "KFHD xSettings" (courtesy of 0xD34D), but it works for me with or without "internal location-provider" set.
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I'm testing now the "Alpine quest hiking" app, but by the day I will do with Tom-tom.
The experience has been a bitter relief, as this "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Turboirc) app seems to be the only remaining solution to tie GPSs and Kindles, but the program hasn't options and loses signal occasionally, just only a second fortunately. Accuracy is good.
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The "original" "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Mobilej) behaviour has changed, in doesn't hangs now, only announces that has been closed and, curiously only if you install it normally(not system/app), lets you a feedback with the creator to send him errors. I will prove if he or they can fix it in between.
later I will show more tests....

Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.

GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:

gflorezarroyo said:
Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
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^Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information. I got it to connect with position initially but does not continually update data in intervals like the mobilej.de version had. As a result, the gps apps get hung up or stop without this feed of coordinate data.
i suppose I will just use my phone in the mean time, until maybe a new firmware update will change this issue!

I've sideloaded Avare, a free superb navigator, for planes!. It doesn't reads the "GPS Provider" app, but neither hangs. Tomtom seems to work, but its raining here and the test must wait to my way home, later.
By car, friends....

hokie152 said: "Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information"
Not so easy, it seems some apps see the information and others no. "Alpine quest" works, so the provider app is feeding.

hokie152. If you need GPS to fly, do it as you said by tethering from your phone.............. or downgrade to 7.2.3 and lock updates.....

quan_1986 said:
GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
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But be aware of Bluetooth not working properly, yet (Bug)

Definitively Tomtom works with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turboirc) on 7.3.0. Has the same glitches every now and then like Alpine Quest, but it brings you to home and alerts you of radars.....

Another bluetooth gps provider named..... BlueGPS4android, installs but I cant make it work:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluegps4droid/?source=dlp

Bluegps4android works in my phone, but all versions offered refuse to tie in Kindle.
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I've find an app that connects DIRECTLY with the GPS dongle without a provider app. Its name is Trekbuddy, side-loaded from Google Market.
Is a complex program that needs some study, but apparently it works, I don't know if can be used to fly....

To hokie152:
I've installed Air Navigation Pro, and it seems to react and receive some coordinates if you have set "wifi location" with or without wifi. Later I'll take the car and test it. My bluetooth dongle is a cheap and outdated Zaapa Touch(only 5 euros!).

Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.

gflorezarroyo said:
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
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I will try connecting Air Navigation Pro using Bluetooth GPS Provider by turboir and see if I have the same results "with or without WIFI". I have seen the little plane before rotate in circles when you stop moving (at zero velocity). It displays your location but has no direction of motion so it cannot hold a proper heading. Thanks!

I mean that I think this program inject coordinates(mock locations) to the system, so its necessary that location services are working, ie the approximate location by wifi used by our Kindle. Happy Fly!
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Now I'm making a map of my way to home to test Trekbuddy reading directly from my dongle gps..... to test if it isn't guilty of the glitches.