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Got my 1st C&D today.

Wow Motorola really doesn't like people messing with there phones. I've hosted TONS of SGS stuff never a peep from Samsung.
http://www.mattfacts.dangdeals.com/2011/03/wow-motorola-sent-a-cd-cease-and-desist/

congratulations!
should respond with "dear sir, please unlock my bootloader. thank you"

Pirateghost said:
congratulations!
should respond with "dear sir, please unlock my bootloader. thank you"
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Hah, thats not a bad idea. I'll call him in the morning.

When will this company learn? These people are you most valuable and influential customers.

LOL.... I think everyone should call him and say
"I'm YellowGTO..."
that or just prank call him all day...

LoL
LoL
LoL

That is freakin awesome. You are my new hero.
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Motorola is losing a lot of credibility imo step by step...

i m going to call him to give me an unlocked bootloader in a min

lsxrx7 said:
i m going to call him to give me an unlocked bootloader in a min
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Ask him if he has any uncapped HSUPA as well...

The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.

n7slc said:
The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.
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That's actually an interesting stance. I wrote them on Twitter and I'm sure they won't reply to me.
Good thing I got RSD Lite 5.0 and the SBF before a lot of sites took them down due to copyright violations.

This would be bad news for devs trying to crack the bootloeader as im sure CCD letters would be issues out

LancerV said:
This would be bad news for devs trying to crack the bootloeader as im sure CCD letters would be issues out
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Or just host it from a server in a different country who doesn't give a crap.
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Clienterror said:
Or just host it from a server in a different country who doesn't give a crap.
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Yup this would be the smart thing to do.

How big is the RSDLite file? I need it. Can someone direct me to where I can download it from pls??

I have finished downloading the SBF. Can someone PM me regarding obtaining a download of RSDLite? I need to download it, but unable to find it online anymore.
UPDATE: Nevermind someone point me to the download of RSDLite. It's still online, just needed to select a different file host site.

n7slc said:
The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.
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HSUPA is not Moto's doing. Learn who is stealing what from you.
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PixoNova said:
HSUPA is not Moto's doing. Learn who is stealing what from you.
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Don't be a tool Pixo. I know darned well who's keeping HSUPA from Atrix owners. I also know who it is that locked the bootloader which keeps devs from enabling HSUPA on both at&t AND Bell.
Look at the HTC Inspire...HSUPA was crippled by at&t but HTC didn't lock it down so it was easily enabled by those in the know. Same with the Samsung Captivate.
Since it's Motorola's policy to lock all bootloaders, I feel the blame falls mainly on them.

Motorola solution like SE

Sony Ericsson just launched a website to unlock the bootloader on there latest phones.
Didn't Motorola promise a bootloader solution. Do you think it will end up like this? When will this happen?

One word.... never.
Motorola has already shown their true colors on the matter.
They're siding with the carriers and blocking as much access to the phone as they can.

RacecarBMW said:
Didn't Motorola promise a bootloader solution.
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No /thread.

RacecarBMW said:
Sony Ericsson just launched a website to unlock the bootloader on there latest phones.
Didn't Motorola promise a bootloader solution. Do you think it will end up like this? When will this happen?
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They promised a solution. Forum manager swears up and down they're working on it..
I think they just said it to shut us up.
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[Important] Sign these petitions, make moto do things right

Please sign these petitions to make motorola atleast look at us
Motorola is very good in fake promising
But we will force them to do things!!!!
This one is to force motorola unlock the bootloaders
This one is to tell motorola that this will be the last purchase of moto phones if they dont unlock the bootloaders
This one is to make them release an ics update for defy
And finally this one is to help other people who bought their products
Motorola triumph..Help them too please
Force moto release an gingerbread update for triumph
Google s control over Motorola can bring about an change..it's not an waste signing the petition..!
Thanks to all of them who signed this petition!!
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Please do sign..help other people to get their device unlocked!!
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To be perfectly honest, I'll be surprised if these petitions amount to anything beyond making the people who signed them feel good about doing so. "Last purchase of Motorola phones if they don't unlock the bootloaders?" Let's be honest: the number of people who care about locked bootloaders is merely a fraction of their overall user base, which doesn't give a damn about rooting or unlocked bootloaders or custom ROMs. All of us combined could refuse to buy Motorola phones tomorrow, and it wouldn't affect their bottom line in the slightest. It's just not a threat to their business. Now, maybe these petitions will make some sort of difference, I don't know, but please don't labor under the illusion that we're any threat to their bottom line, because such a concept is laughable at best.

I to signed the original bootloader petition and that hasn't gotten us anywhere
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Isn't this the Atrix forum? We have an unlocked bootloader and don't care about the Defy or Triumph.

yeahmann said:
Isn't this the Atrix forum? We have an unlocked bootloader and don't care about the Defy or Triumph.
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msd24200 said:
I to signed the original bootloader petition and that hasn't gotten us anywhere
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MJPollard said:
To be perfectly honest, I'll be surprised if these petitions amount to anything beyond making the people who signed them feel good about doing so. "Last purchase of Motorola phones if they don't unlock the bootloaders?" Let's be honest: the number of people who care about locked bootloaders is merely a fraction of their overall user base, which doesn't give a damn about rooting or unlocked bootloaders or custom ROMs. All of us combined could refuse to buy Motorola phones tomorrow, and it wouldn't affect their bottom line in the slightest. It's just not a threat to their business. Now, maybe these petitions will make some sort of difference, I don't know, but please don't labor under the illusion that we're any threat to their bottom line, because such a concept is laughable at best.
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What they said.

yeahmann said:
Isn't this the Atrix forum? We have an unlocked bootloader and don't care about the Defy or Triumph.
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It's about other fellow Android & Motorola users. We are a community. Lets stick together.
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C'mon it's about unity..we've gotta stick together..i have an defy..but see ive added a link to save other devices too
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Unlock my bootloader too!
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[Important] tag?

pjgowtham said:
Please sign these petitions to make motorola atleast look at us
Motorola is very good in fake promising
But we will force them to do things!!!!
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I find it humourous that people think that partitions can FORCE big corporations to do something. I doubt you can force a singly person to do anything. Love the "force" word.. maybe you can use some Jedi Mind tricks on the Motorola CEO?

Razr M

Ok.... Two questions about the new Razr M just announced:
1) Do you have to get the developer edition to use rooting, advanced features, etc.? Or will there be an XDA way?
2) Does VZW usually ship phones that are pre-ordered the day they are announced, or beforehand?

Someone will have the standard version rooted.
Developer Edition will allow full customization though which would be nice.
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bwheelies said:
Someone will have the standard version rooted.
Developer Edition will allow full customization though which would be nice.
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Can you elaborate on full customization? Do you mean without the developer edition, no custom roms?

Developer edition will have unlockable bootloader which would allow for more customization than what you could do with the standard edition. What we can do on our Razrs (standard) will probably be the same as what we'll be able to do on the Razr M. Dev edition would allow for more customization I think better kernel customizations, more custom roms, downgrading versions (which from what i understand is not possible now due to lack of unlockable bootloader)

saloums7 said:
Developer edition will have unlockable bootloader which would allow for more customization than what you could do with the standard edition. What we can do on our Razrs (standard) will probably be the same as what we'll be able to do on the Razr M. Dev edition would allow for more customization I think better kernel customizations, more custom roms, downgrading versions (which from what i understand is not possible now due to lack of unlockable bootloader)
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So the current razr bootloader can't be unlocked? And no ROMs are available?

Interresting thread, I am looking to replace my HTC Desire S and this Razr M looks like the perfect upgrade.
All I need is official MIUI JB support
I guess this should be done by itself if the phone is easly unlockable.
The specs are just so nice, small design, big screen, no cheap plastic, dual core...

Moto Razer the new dev editions well be fully capable of every little thing from voodo and dual dualig with source and full unlock boot loader I mean look at samsungs phones the international ones way to big ..posted and regular development like crazy.. look at the moto every hates them so bad cause they lock down like fort Knox but now its shock and awe ... the xiaomi m2 is still better
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What WILL be available on the RAZR mod wise?

bwheelies said:
Someone will have the standard version rooted.
Developer Edition will allow full customization though which would be nice.
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Looking at the security on the Atrix HD and the HTC One X that is a rather bold claim that it will 100% be rooted. I would not say to expect root on any device from now on unless the bootloader is unlockable.

What is the point of Moto having a bootloader unlock tool if it only works on dev editions?

hah2110 said:
What is the point of Moto having a bootloader unlock tool if it only works on dev editions?
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It doesn't only work on them. Photon Q example 1.
Verizon is the reason you need a "Dev" Edition of a device on their network.
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mattlgroff said:
It doesn't only work on them. Photon Q example 1.
Verizon is the reason you need a "Dev" Edition of a device on their network.
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So are you thinking there will not be root for non-dev?

hah2110 said:
So are you thinking there will not be root for non-dev?
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I think saying that it WILL be rooting is being highly optimistic. They should not buy a retail and expect root. Why bother developing a root exploit anyway, when people who want it could have gotten the Developer Edition instead

mattlgroff said:
I think saying that it WILL be rooting is being highly optimistic. They should not buy a retail and expect root. Why bother developing a root exploit anyway, when people who want it could have gotten the Developer Edition instead
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Because they are discriminating against the technical community and you can't get the developer edition on contract.
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hah2110 said:
Because they are discriminating against the technical community and you can't get the developer edition on contract.
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If you are on contract you can definitely buy one, however it is full retail price. It certainly could be rooted, but I think not to hold your breath.

mattlgroff said:
If you are on contract you can definitely buy one, however it is full retail price. It certainly could be rooted, but I think not to hold your breath.
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Thats what i meant, no contract price.

hah2110 said:
Thats what i meant, no contract price.
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Most will have to start doing this anyway on Verizon to keep their Unlimited data. If they can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen

Does dev edition being unlocked means that if I put a tele2 sicard in it it would work? (assuming tele2 and VZW use the same bands)

hah2110 said:
What is the point of Moto having a bootloader unlock tool if it only works on dev editions?
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After 2400 + posts, I think you should be able to answer some of these questions on your own. But seeing that I am bored, I pre-ordered and received the phone by the 13th (the released date.)
Seeing that the phone has only been released for two days, I would not expect the normal edition to be hacked yet. There aren't even any custom ROM for the dev edition either.
"What WILL be available on the RAZR mod wise?" Blender, coffee maker, Pez dispenser, and transformation abilities into the iPhone pending Apple litigation.
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legolas.w said:
Does dev edition being unlocked means that if I put a tele2 sicard in it it would work? (assuming tele2 and VZW use the same bands)
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Global phone so it should work.

legolas.w said:
Does dev edition being unlocked means that if I put a tele2 sicard in it it would work? (assuming tele2 and VZW use the same bands)
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Unlockable bootloader does not mean unlockable for carrier.

[Im]patiently awaiting for recovery, ROMs, root, and debloat

Damn! I just can't use stock phones anymore!! The XDA Community moves so fast I thought that by now there would already be a ROM dump (it's been less than a day, I know). I suppose we need a recovery first. The hardware looks good. I know it has a slightly larger battery than the II, but if 3's actual battery life is anywhere near the II on custom ROMs, I'd be a very happy camper. Let the devs begin! :good:

I know me to. It bootloader let's locked again, maybe thinking about either getting a unlocked TMobile version or wait for Canadian unlocked.
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There's a good chance the bootloader will be locked, in which case it might be a long time before you see any of those things you want

Chainfire said:
There's a good chance the bootloader will be locked, in which case it might be a long time before you see any of those things you want
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Well, then, if CF is here... I'm counting on you!!

snovvman said:
Well, then, if CF is here... I'm counting on you!!
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I don't do anything for locked bootloader devices. Life is too short.

Chainfire said:
I don't do anything for locked bootloader devices. Life is too short.
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Dang not the warm and fuzzy I was hoping for. So my ATT is due to be delivered this am. Or I can spend $400.00 more and go buy a T-Mobile. Crap I was hoping for a Root already.

I am hoping for something like Loki for this phone. It is great hardware but has too much crapware installed. Root would be good just to be able to remove some of it.
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Chainfire said:
I don't do anything for locked bootloader devices. Life is too short.
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Why AT&T WHY¿? Thanks for always keeping it real CF you really are 2nd2none!!!
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ElAguila said:
I am hoping for something like Loki for this phone. It is great hardware but has too much crapware installed. Root would be good just to be able to remove some of it.
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Go in to all apps and "disable" all the AT&T and Samsung BS apps you don't want......
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The fact that carriers lock the bootloader is both futile and absurd. If they consider the big picture, keeping it unlocked would actually help sales. I realize that they have a business objective to protect and want to maintain their marketing strategy, but the the bootloader almost always gets broken in the end. If they consider that single fact--then they should come to this conclusion: Why put people through hoops to get the access if they will eventually get it anyway? It just pisses people off.
Locking the bootloader does nothing for those who have no interest in root, etc. It does bring bad will for those who want root and will eventually get it.
It's just silly. Give people what they want!!

Chainfire said:
I don't do anything for locked bootloader devices. Life is too short.
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Hey CF, can we financially entice you to have a crack [pardon the pun] at it? I'm in for $20.

snovvman said:
Hey CF, can we financially entice you to have a crack [pardon the pun] at it? I'm in for $20.
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It'd be a waste. There are people far more talented at bootloader hacking than I am, better throw your money at them instead.

Chainfire said:
It'd be a waste. There are people far more talented at bootloader hacking than I am, better throw your money at them instead.
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Cheers. Thanks for talking to us.
Hey, it could be worse--we could be using iPhones...

snovvman said:
Cheers. Thanks for talking to us.
Hey, it could be worse--we could be using iPhones...
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At least on iPhones they don't have to put up with carrier bloatware.
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pachi72 said:
At least on iPhones they don't have to put up with carrier bloatware. [/url]
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I'll give you that. I suppose I would still rather get a T-Mo N3 to run on ATT... iPhone is so... 2 dimensional.
Does anyone remember how long it took the Note II's bootloader to get cracked?

snovvman said:
I'll give you that. I suppose I would still rather get a T-Mo N3 to run on ATT... iPhone is so... 2 dimensional.
Does anyone remember how long it took the Note II's bootloader to get cracked?
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The note 2 never had a locked bootloader.

Usually before it hits stores.
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Is it true that, with the many phones that have arrived with a locked bootloader, they have almost always been cracked at some point?

snovvman said:
Is it true that, with the many phones that have arrived with a locked bootloader, they have almost always been cracked at some point?
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There is often an exploit at some point, but I don't recall any devices with locked bootloaders being truly cracked.

neubauej said:
There is often an exploit at some point, but I don't recall any devices with locked bootloaders being truly cracked.
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Copy that. Off to T-Mo's N3 I go...

I just picked up To bile Version. No more AT bs for me.
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