The Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus etc are Palmtop computers and we should stop calling them phones. Just because Apple call their Palmtop a phone doesn't make it one or that others should follow suit.
Tablets are not Palmtops either (unless you have very big hands) but Laptops without a keyboard which makes them more portable.
So the Note is not a phone or a phonblet but a Palmtop PC or simply a Palmtop.
Palmtop computer = 5 syllables
Phone = 1 syllable
I know which I'm using.
People still call automobiles cars (short for horse drawn carriage). Languages are flexible and evolve and grow with us. If the other person gets the idea, that's what matters. Voice communication capability in an electronic device warrants the name phone in my opinion. The smart- prefix is what describes the computer aspect of them.
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Palmtop computer = 5 syllables
Phone = 1 syllable
I know which I'm using.
People still call automobiles cars (short for horse drawn carriage). Languages are flexible and evolve and grow with us. If the other person gets the idea, that's what matters. Voice communication capability in an electronic device warrants the name phone in my opinion. The smart- prefix is what describes the computer aspect of them.
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Apple called their Palmtop the iphone (which is pronounced as two syllables like Palmtop) but it is still a Palmtop with a phone application. You might think the of iPhone as a phone but that is due to Apple brainwashing. I think of my Note as a Palmtop with a phone application and I expect most people do too.
I'm pretty sure this will be a very hot topic in the lingustics forum...
Gaugerer said:
Apple called their Palmtop the iphone (which is pronounced as two syllables like Palmtop) but it is still a Palmtop with a phone application. You might think the of iPhone as a phone but that is due to Apple brainwashing. I think of my Note as a Palmtop with a phone application and I expect most people do too.
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I don't usually think in words; more like concepts, images, emotions. I just use words for conveying information to others. I use whichever words most efficiently convey the making. Sometimes that even includes choosing words I, personally, feel are inaccurate, because I know they will work best with the other person's limited vocabulary. Such as answering "yes, it's like a mini iPad" (though in situations as extreme as that, I usually do follow up with a bit of a lesson. )
Sometimes I think of my device as mass of highly processed and patterned mineral extracts, interconnected with a metallic web of smelted ores, wrapped in layers of polymerized refinement products of dinosaur material dug from within the earth's crust after millions of years of conditioning from heat and pressure, which converts electrochemical energy into various other forms including sonic air reverberations and electromagnetic radiation in the visible and radio spectrum, based upon a combination of my tactical input and reception of faint electromagnetic radiation in the radio spectrum.
But if I were talking to you I'd probably just abbreviate it to palmtop with phone application so you'd understand.
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I'm pretty sure this will be a very hot topic in the lingustics forum...
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It ought to be a hot topic because it is time for people to stop calling their Palmtops phones and forget the Apple brainwashing.
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I don't usually think in words; more like concepts, images, emotions. I just use words for conveying information to others. I use whichever words most efficiently convey the making. Sometimes that even includes choosing words I, personally, feel are inaccurate, because I know they will work best with the other person's limited vocabulary. Such as answering "yes, it's like a mini iPad" (though in situations as extreme as that, I usually do follow up with a bit of a lesson. )
Sometimes I think of my device as mass of highly processed and patterned mineral extracts, interconnected with a metallic web of smelted ores, wrapped in layers of polymerized refinement products of dinosaur material dug from within the earth's crust after millions of years of conditioning from heat and pressure, which converts electrochemical energy into various other forms including sonic air reverberations and electromagnetic radiation in the visible and radio spectrum, based upon a combination of my tactical input and reception of faint electromagnetic radiation in the radio spectrum.
But if I were talking to you I'd probably just abbreviate it to palmtop with phone application so you'd understand.
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If I were talking to you or anyone else I would describe the Note as a Palmtop with a phone application rather than a phone with a computer application, which makes more sense.
I would still call it a phone because the phone function is the most important one for me. I wouldn't buy the Note if it didn't work as a phone even if it came with retractable back-scratcher and inflatable woman.
I'm not so sure about this apple brainwashing part, I vaguely recall Windows Mobile phones being called phones before that.
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I would still call it a phone because the phone function is the most important one for me. I wouldn't buy the Note if it didn't work as a phone even if it came with retractable back-scratcher and inflatable woman.
I'm not so sure about this apple brainwashing part, I vaguely recall Windows Mobile phones being called phones before that.
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The name given to a device is important and should best describe what it does otherwise it is misleading. So the Note, Nexus, Atrix, iphone etc are best described as a Palmtops rather than phones because of their multiple applications. So, for Apple to call their Palmtop a phone is a name which is both misleading and inaccurate.
I bought a smartphone, if you want to call it a palmtop
that is fine with me, but stop trolling. I am sure when you
don't know where it is, you ask your wife if she's seen your
palmtop with phone application lying around somewhere.......
Some ppl just got nothing useful to do for killing time.
And as another user mentionned before, HTC made smartphones
before Apple even dreamed about iphones
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So the Note is not a phone or a phonblet but a Palmtop PC or simply a Palmtop.
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Semantics!
It's a computer and a phone, which we typically call a smartphone - pure and simple.
What makes "palmtop" any better than "smartphone"?
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its a phone, end of, nothing to do with what apple calls them its something that YOU seem to have a bee in your bonnet opver and have designated to wanting it to be called nothing more nothing less
there is point trying to get people to call it a palmtop instead of a phone
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The name given to a device is important and should best describe what it does otherwise it is misleading. So the Note, Nexus, Atrix, iphone etc are best described as a Palmtops rather than phones because of their multiple applications. So, for Apple to call their Palmtop a phone is a name which is both misleading and inaccurate.
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I bought a smartphone, if you want to call it a palmtop
that is fine with me, but stop trolling. I am sure when you
don't know where it is, you ask your wife if she's seen your
palmtop with phone application lying around somewhere.......
Some ppl just got nothing useful to do for killing time.
And as another user mentionned before, HTC made smartphones
before Apple even dreamed about iphones
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Palmtop is easier to say than smartphone and has the advantage of being a more accurate description. You can call your Palmtop a phone or smartphone but companies are legally obliged to avoid names which are misleading.
every man and his dog thinks he invented english.. are you the man or the dog, and wtf is a palmtop computer?
foxmeister said:
Semantics!
It's a computer and a phone, which we typically call a smartphone - pure and simple.
What makes "palmtop" any better than "smartphone"?
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Palmtops can be used to perform many applications so calling it a phone is misleading and inaccurate.
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I say Phablet: PHone + tABLET.
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every man and his dog thinks he invented english.. are you the man or the dog, and wtf is a palmtop computer?
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A Palmtop is a computer which fits in your palm as opposed to a laptop which is a computer that fits on your lap
I just call it "fantastic"
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oooo.. so it actually should be called a palmtop computer phone, because computers can't make phone calls
Related
http://mashable.com/2009/01/26/apple-multi-touch-patent/
Apple Gets Their Multi-Touch Patent; Is Palm Screwed?
January 26, 2009 - 6:34 pm PDT - by Jennifer Van Grove 47 Comments
The US Patent Office has signed, sealed, and delivered a late Christmas present to Apple. On January 20th, the powers that be awarded patent #7,479,949, titled Touch screen device, method, and graphical user interface for determining commands by applying heuristics, to Apple. Essentially, Apple wins the war on their multi-touch technology and other copycats should be shaking in their boots.
apple multitouch patent
The patent, which was originally filed on April 11, 2008, is a long detailed description of the technology, with the abstract reading:
“A computer-implemented method for use in conjunction with a computing device with a touch screen display comprises: detecting one or more finger contacts with the touch screen display, applying one or more heuristics to the one or more finger contacts to determine a command for the device, and processing the command. The one or more heuristics comprise: a heuristic for determining that the one or more finger contacts correspond to a one-dimensional vertical screen scrolling command, a heuristic for determining that the one or more finger contacts correspond to a two-dimensional screen translation command, and a heuristic for determining that the one or more finger contacts correspond to a command to transition from displaying a respective item in a set of items to displaying a next item in the set of items.”
And if MacRumors is right about Tim Cook’s intentions to aggressively take legal action against those ripping off Apple’s intellectual property, then the yet to be released to the public Palm Pre, which supports swiping and pinching, could find itself in a sea of turmoil.
Tim Cook has been quoted saying that, “Well, I don’t want to talk about any specific company. I’m just making a general statement that we think competition is good. It makes us all better. And we are ready to suit up and go against anyone. However, we will not stand for having our IP ripped off, and we’ll use whatever weapons that we have at our disposal. I don’t know that I could be more clear than that.”
We can’t wait to see how this all plays out. Let us know your thoughts and predictions in the comments.
i smell trouble....
It's not right that they were allowed to patent such a basic thing as multitouch. I mean, what if someone had patented double press on regular keyboards a million years ago? No shift+<key>, ctrl+<key> etc. It's just not right.
Makes me glad I have a rooted phone. I can now safely ignore any restrictions that may be placed on t-mobile/google for multi touch .
Another pathetic patent troll. Apple is sinking to a new low. Just thinking to patent something as basic as a GESTURE.
I'd really like this to be challenged in court.
I think Apple will be the first cell maker to go down hill. Mark my words.
Meh, there's actually a lot of prior art for this. Apple is just trolling (as usual?). It won't hold up in court.
Add to that, that Palm has lots of patents of their own they can throw at Apple. I for one would be glad to see Apple sueing Palm, there's a good chance that it's Apple who will get burned instead of Palm, and it would serve them right.
If apple goes after Palm I hope they don't go after us here at xda. I hate apple trying to control everything. Get over yourselves your not original you steal ideas from other people. And its been proven time and time again.
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If apple goes after Palm I hope they don't go after us here at xda. I hate apple trying to control everything. Get over yourselves your not original you steal ideas from other people. And its been proven time and time again.
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What if they do go after us?
We do not mess with Apple phones on these forums. They have nothing to do with us. We try and keep anything and all Apple related pics/ software off of these forums.
Besides these forums are not located in the U S A
Wow... This is pretty saddening....
Apple sueing for something so basic.
Multi-Touch.....What the hell?
How were they even granted this patent....?
That's like me applying for a patent for "Shift+Touch" zoom, and disallow
anyone else to use these controls....Just makes no sense...
Apple used to be my favorite company, but, they are starting to piss me off.
this stupid patent would not stand a chance in the court!!
it isn't valid if by the time patent was released there were already alternative devices with similar solution.
Apple have been this way since the term "Windows" was used for an entire operating system.
In US law, it doesn't matter if other makers employed the feature before the patent was granted, as long as the patent is granted to the company who did it *first*.
But I'm sure there will be a long, legal battle that won't be over before the G1 EOLs.
I don't want Multi-Touch.
Now on a huge wall-size display, like on Minority Report, or in TV News studios, Multi-Touch may be very cool, but at least for phones, it is a buzz word - like Bubble Memory, or AI programming languages.
Using the Zoom Icon's like on my G1, I can zoom, scroll, etc, one handed. Unless Apple is marketing to Lizard people, using multi-touch requires one hand to hold the phone, and another to do the multi touch. IMHO, that "un-pinch" to zoom out is not easy, comfortable, natural, or intuitive.
(My experience is based on having used an iPhone for nearly a year.)
No offense to the people working on this on Android. It may be very cool on other devices, or for just as a "..we got that too..." demo, but
I don't have it, or want it on my G1.
I agree with Linuxslate. After using multi-touch for a while on the JF1.41 version, I much prefer the stock "double-tap" zoom. For me, it is much easier to use.
However, when I show off the phone, one of the first things they try is multi-touch. When I was on the stock RC30, they would try a multi-touch gesture, and of course, it wouldn't work. They would hand the phone back and say, "What a piece of junk."
I view multi-touch as a cool gimmick, and it is nice to have just to show off the phone. When I actually use the phone, it is a rarely used feature.
apple is not the first . "Minority report " makers should patent gestures . and i know : patents are granted if the solution haven't seen even an scientific newspaper article .
so i patent drinking water and i fee steve for 10 $ for each glass he drink .
t1n0m3n said:
I agree with Linuxslate. After using multi-touch for a while on the JF1.41 version, I much prefer the stock "double-tap" zoom. For me, it is much easier to use.
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While I kinda like the multi-touch zoom I have to say I agree about double-tap zoom, it's way better. Though we don't have that either, at least I don't on my ADP1.
the reason for a patent is to protect creative unique ideas from other stealing it. multi-touch is not creative, or unique. It is a natural progression of touch screens. This is not to protect apple, it is to hinder others. No wonder apple has only 10% of the PC market, because the other 90% see thought the bull****
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Though we don't have that either, at least I don't on my ADP1.
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You can't tap the screen and then tap the + or - to zoom in and out? That sucks, how do you zoom in and out on ADP1 then?
Edit: You are right! That sucks. Oh well.
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You can't tap the screen and then tap the + or - to zoom in and out? That sucks, how do you zoom in and out on ADP1 then?
Edit: You are right! That sucks. Oh well.
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I can tap and then use the magnifying buttons, but I mean zoom in on a part of the screen by just double tapping it.
also it should center the zooming action on where you tap on the screen. as it is all zooming is centered at the center of the view.
All of a sudden, their developers realized they have been using the "wrong" formula to calculate signal strength, for years.... lmao
Now they are changing the code.
Sounds to me like they are covering up the problem so instead of reporting true signal, its only going to report averages, or on a timed basis... to make the users think they have signal.
Why don't they just admit a design flaw, and recall all the dumb phones...
I LOVE MY EVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Apple will be made fun of endlessly for this in the short term. It's not exactly the most classy way to handle this whole situation.
Fix the problem going forward on new phones, offer a free bumper to people who already have the phone. I bet 9/10 owners wouldn't bother taking the offer because they are lazy or don't care.
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All of a sudden, their developers realized they have been using the "wrong" formula to calculate signal strength, for years.... lmao
Now they are changing the code.
Sounds to me like they are covering up the problem so instead of reporting true signal, its only going to report averages, or on a timed basis... to make the users think they have signal.
Why don't they just admit a design flaw, and recall all the dumb phones...
I LOVE MY EVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From my understanding of it...which was, admittedly, attained from a cursory glance of slashdot comments on the article about this...they were plotting the signal strength according to a linear interpretation of the signal, as opposed to a logarithmic interpretation.
Everything about how a radio operates (Amplitude and Frequency, for the most part) is most accurately represented in logarithmic form.
So either this is a horse-**** based explanation of the actual problem that has been there the whole time--which implies they've been lying about signal for 5 years now...or they are trying pass off this clearly gigantic antenna issue as merely "an age old bug"...
...time will tell.
Haha who else saw futurama tonight making fun of iphone? Tooooo funny
lmao, shut up and take my money
Dude......dumb post.
I love my Evo.....faults and all.....but guess what?....also think the Iphone 4....faults and all....is an excellent product....as have been all Iphones before.
Have androids surpassed the Iphone? In many ways yes, ...but not all!.
But the Iphone doesnt 'suck'...by any means.
C'mon....dont need to validate our love of the Evo by denigrating the Iphone. We're big people here.
I degraded iphone when I had winmo 5 haha I had fizzweather with wigets and background apps! More than iphone can do now even
If it weren't for the iphone the surge in phone advancement wouldn't have taken place when it did. That said, Apple is the Bill Clinton of cell phone mfgs - deny, deny, deny.
Giving away the bumper would be an admission, so they'll NEVER do that.
If you believe that I got a bridge here in NY that's for sale. This is a cover up to a design flaw, when you touch both antennas in a certain way and make them one the signal drops because you de-tune both antennas.
What they'll do is hardcode the signal meter to not drop bars like it's suppose to and call it a fix. This is a very obvious design flaw not a software problem!
If it's been wrong for years how come no one had problems with any other iPhones until they designed this phone?
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If you believe that I got a bridge here in NY that's for sale. This is a cover up to a design flaw, when you touch both antennas in a certain way and make them one the signal drops because you de-tune both antennas.
What they'll do is hardcode the signal meter to not drop bars like it's suppose to and call it a fix. This is a very obvious design flaw not a software problem!
If it's been wrong for years how come no one had problems with any other iPhones until they designed this phone?
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Agreed!! Phone 4 is the first Apple phone that denies access to the dBm page..Seems suspicious!
Apple 2E computer forever!!!!
God, I miss that 5.25 drive... lmao...
This will be the iphone soon.
I dont think there is anything wrong with their signal strenght algorithm. They are just comming up with excusing for the poor antenna design.
Just a little cautionary tale:
Tim Ferriss' "4 Hour Body" (totally recommended btw) has an interesting finding about keeping your mobile phone in your pants pocket vis-a-vis male *erhm* fertility.
It turns out that "efficiency" is lowered by up to two-thirds from the radiation - The solution is apparently to keep it somewhere on the upper body (jacket pocket etc.) - This led to drastically improved test results in 10-12 weeks.
I'm danish - And come to think of it we're both one of the nations with the lowest fertility rates and one of the earliest adopters of mobile technology (used to be 5-10 years ahead of the rest of europe + uk) - Maybe there's a correlation there?
Does anyone call bogus on this? I'm now keeping my phone in my jacket pocket - But when the spring and t-shirts arrive, what will I do?
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Just a little cautionary tale:
Tim Ferriss' "4 Hour Body" (totally recommended btw) has an interesting finding about keeping your mobile phone in your pants pocket vis-a-vis male *erhm* fertility.
It turns out that "efficiency" is lowered by up to two-thirds from the radiation - The solution is apparently to keep it somewhere on the upper body (jacket pocket etc.) - This led to drastically improved test results in 10-12 weeks.
I'm danish - And come to think of it we're both one of the nations with the lowest fertility rates and one of the earliest adopters of mobile technology (used to be 5-10 years ahead of the rest of europe + uk) - Maybe there's a correlation there?
Does anyone call bogus on this? I'm now keeping my phone in my jacket pocket - But when the spring and t-shirts arrive, what will I do?
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that absolue crap and there is no evidence or basis for your comment lol as for being 10 years ahead of the rest of europe dude you live in windmills and have peter schmeichel dancing about advertising bacon lol
Well, I think we have to recognize that Scandinavian ppl were lucky enough to be in the "capital" of mobile phone development, since Nokia was the company that is responsible for the phone technology spring!
BTW, my sympathies for Nokia gens6200. I am deeply sad that Nokia decided to put aside their own projects in favor of WP7. One less big competitor in the pit.
And regarding the phone placed close to our "precious" , it is logical that, if you get a device with 1,4 SAR, and always keep it in your pants pocket, it could harm your future babies... I remember me, before getting a handsfree, when I had to keep the phone against my head while talking (I talk a lot), I used to have headaches. It even happens now, when the handsfree batterie is dead and I use the phone without it.
But that could just be me...
dragunov chill out i was only joking i mean how can you take a post about infertility serious in a smartfone modding forum?
Didn't want to sound that serious! My bad friend...
I guess writing in forums while being "stretched" at work affects my feelings.
gens6200 said:
Just a little cautionary tale:
Tim Ferriss' "4 Hour Body" (totally recommended btw) has an interesting finding about keeping your mobile phone in your pants pocket vis-a-vis male *erhm* fertility.
It turns out that "efficiency" is lowered by up to two-thirds from the radiation - The solution is apparently to keep it somewhere on the upper body (jacket pocket etc.) - This led to drastically improved test results in 10-12 weeks.
I'm danish - And come to think of it we're both one of the nations with the lowest fertility rates and one of the earliest adopters of mobile technology (used to be 5-10 years ahead of the rest of europe + uk) - Maybe there's a correlation there?
Does anyone call bogus on this? I'm now keeping my phone in my jacket pocket - But when the spring and t-shirts arrive, what will I do?
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There are other much more important factors affecting fertility rates than adoption of cell phones. Economic development is just one of them as an example.
1) How did the fertility rate of Denmark compare to the rest of Europe 20 years ago?
2) 15 years ago did most of the cell phones fit in the pants pockets?
I just got that book, but still haven't read it.
Good thing that I already have 2 kids and don't need to worry about my cellphone affecting my fertility.
The reason I don't currently carry my phone in my pants pocket has more to do with the phone being brand new and me being afraid of scratching the screed
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Didn't want to sound that serious! My bad friend...
I guess writing in forums while being "stretched" at work affects my feelings.
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noooo i didnt mean you took it seriously, i ment ignore me comments about denmark i was only cracking a joke because its such an odd subject lol
I have one child and another on the way, yet I have been keeping a mobile in my pocket for years!
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noooo i didnt mean you took it seriously, i ment ignore me comments about denmark i was only cracking a joke because its such an odd subject lol
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That’s why I love superiority humour – Innate nationalism always causes someone to take the bait.. And once again, I’m obviously being sarcastic.
But no seriously, Peter Schmeichel is currently advertising a new bacon slice skin care line – Apparently pig products do wonders for fine lines.
... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.
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... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.
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Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.
IMO, HOX looks way better, albeit a bit skate-board'ish (took a while to find the right word) but I aint buying phones for the looks (like my bro who regrets it with sensation).
Build quality and design are 2 different things btw, and HTC's build quality is derp.. they use fancy materials but there are nuff examples of bad-glued screens, light leaks, yellow spots or w/e with 1x and chipping with 1s and it's uber fancy hyped satellite NASA aluminum.
Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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What about my friend who broke her HTC Incredible's screen 2 times already? See I can do that too. It goes both ways.
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Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.
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I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
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Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.
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I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.
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You're too angry, take a chill pill. This is what you said ...
"More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them...".
what makes you think that everyone else is sheep and it isn't their opinion? Just because most people have the same feeling means their sheeps? And you think you're right about it? If you go to the Galaxy s2 I9100, many users are not satisfied with the new look of the S3 and you would think they should be satisfied since their coming from the Galaxy S2. It proves that theyre not just following what engadget or androidcentral or whatever tech site is saying, they really think it is a disappointment. I see where they coming from. But personally I'm liking it that's why I preordered it and already paid for it. You being mad and saying that everyone is a sheep and following what the tech sites are saying is just silly.
I actually agree somewhat with the OP in that tech blogs do sway peoples opinions even if it's a little. Along with the massive amounts of Hype unseen in any mobile device it's a surprise it's not shot down even more lol.
I personally think it's a freakin beautiful phone. Which is good cause thats all that matters to me.
I really hope this thing does not come with the S4 on T-Mo
The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.
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The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.
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I couldn't agree more, you're absolutely right. It is like Samsung made a " safe" bet on the design. They definitely could have done better.
I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.
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I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.
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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.
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I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
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If you see an HTC phone for the first time, even from a distance, you immediately know who made it because they all have some distinct design features. With this phone, I can't think of anything that makes it stand out from the crowd and screams Samsung. You have to check the brand on it to know. It lacks distinct design features which I my self and a lot of reviewers find disappointing. But you may not. Thats how it works.
For me it couldnt look any better basically It's like a big iphone 3gs, no rectangulars, no nasty edges. Its sexy and i'm pretty sure it will lie good in the hand.
And i think high quality plastic is a good choice. It doesnt block signals like most forms of metal, its lightweight, it can be easily colored, it doesnt brake as easily as other materials. Only negative people always bring up is "it feels cheap".
Of course it does matter how something feels to you, but i'd rather have a cheap feeling than signal problems because of full aluminum backs^^
I fully agree with the thread title, since I don't care much about the design although I like the looks of the S3.
The thing that really pisses me off is, that there isn't just one or two threads discussing the design. No, in allmost every thread be it about the display, the cpu, connectivity, sound,... if the people run ot of arguments why their beloved phone <insert name here> is so much better than the S3, they fall back to "but it's so ugly"
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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.
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yeah, because the artists actually first off "know ****" about what is actually manufacturable (think of the teardrop shaped iPhone renders) and secondly do the artist never bother to think if that design is actually copyrighted or patented by another company.
as the androidpolice article stated: the design of the galaxy s3 may be only the way it is, because someone allowed apple to actually patent a touchscreen phone design which was already in place before apple first used it and would be a sensible choice to built on on.
to quote the infringement claims by apple:
a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded
the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width
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so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it.
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"to quote the infringement claims by apple:
so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it."
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At last, someone with a good sense !
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Best regards
Apple advised Samsung to build ugly phones
On 6.12.2011 a german tech. news site posted the following article
http://www.chip.de/news/Apple-raet-Samsung-Baut-haessliche-Handys-Tablets_53208546.html
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The headline reads "Apple advises Samsung to build ugly Phones"
It basicly says, that apple send Samsung a letter on how they should design their future phones to avoid being sued over.
When I first read it back then, I thought "WTF!!!".
So it isn't "the S3 was designed by lawyers", but rather "Apple designed the S3"
yeah, the funniest thing is following trademarked feature:
- display coloured icons on the display, when device is on
this is ridiculous!
I will say that the official launch didnt really do the S3 justice for its design. I poked through a gallery yesterday of it and it really is a damn good looking phone. I'm not too concerned with the "feel" of it as I usually throw a slim case on my phones anyway. People said the GS2 felt cheap compared to the HTC Vivid and I didn't feel that. I felt the GS2 was lighter but that doesn't directly relate to a cheap feeling for me. I will most likely be getting the GS3 as my next phone because I've had it with HTC/AT&T locking bootloaders. I feel the AT&T One X is destined for the same failures the Vivid saw for having the bootloaders locked for so long after its release.
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Hi, swinging between a Pixel 6 and the Nothing. Not to bothered as will be in a position to upgrade next year.
One of the things that might come to weigh in the balance is Desktop Mode. The Pixel doesn't have it.
Does the Nothing Phone have Desktop Mode? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere?
No.
There actually only some brand purpose this feature (Samsung Dex) and there not a lot of people waiting/using this feature.
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No.
There actually only some brand purpose this feature (Samsung Dex) and there not a lot of people waiting/using this feature.
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Thanks. Yes, Samsung and Huawei those smartphone noobs... Shame, this is one person that does use it.
People find different things useful. I can't understand why some people are so hung up on smartphone speakers for example. To me it is obvious they are always going to be sh1t compared to real speakers. If you care about audio get speakers, real ones. Not ones that are less than 1cm in size. If you want them because you like to walk down the street taking loudly at your phone held at 90 degrees to your face and have everybody around you hear the whole conversation then you deserve the worst speakers around because you are an idiot. But that's just me.