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Anyone think there would be a point in making a petition and sending it to Uncle Sammy, so that maybe in the future touchwiz would be an OPTION rather than mandatory?
I kinda think that samsung won't really listen but I'd be willing to give it a try.
Personally I'm going to be using LauncherPro on my Epic, but it would be nice to just shut off the touchwiz UI without rooting and flashing something new.
Rogue2204 said:
Anyone think there would be a point in making a petition and sending it to Uncle Sammy, so that maybe in the future touchwiz would be an OPTION rather than mandatory?
I kinda think that samsung won't really listen but I'd be willing to give it a try.
Personally I'm going to be using LauncherPro on my Epic, but it would be nice to just shut off the touchwiz UI without rooting and flashing something new.
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Unlikely..their goal is to try to improve TouchWiz till the point people like it..these kind of things heps sets manufacturers apart to the average consumer...overall though its not like TouchWiz 3.0 is bad..if anything most people hate it because either they are used to Sense, think it looks like an iphone, or used a previous TouchWiz and didn't like it...if you set this aside its pretty compatible to Sense, some even like it better...
But again..unlikely..
I don't see any problem with Touchwiz, I think it looks awesome, and if someone has a problem with the performance at all, they can just get a different phone. Touchwiz 3.0 has a ton of features that are just great to have, anyway, couldn't you just run a rom if you don't like it?
When gingerbread launches, google will require none of the hardware vendors from installing custom skins.
ConceptVBS said:
When gingerbread launches, google will require none of the hardware vendors from installing custom skins.
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I doubt..that would undermine what Android is...remember Android isn't only used in cellphones...its used in car systems and other stuff..Google can't tell vendors to stop loading custom UIs...it would be silly...
You can remove touch wiz with root.
Aridon said:
You can remove touch wiz with root.
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You can also just install another launcher and set it as default. LauncherPro, ADW, aHome... etc.
ConceptVBS said:
When gingerbread launches, google will require none of the hardware vendors from installing custom skins.
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They didn't say they plan to stop/ban custom UI's.
They said they plan to make custom UI's unnecessary.
I don't think they have to get rid of touchwiz.. just make it optional. Rooting is pretty simple and i'll probably do it, but at the same time, why dont they give the user a choice? Like I said, i'll be using LauncherPro on mine, but I think the gesture would be nice on Sammy's part.
Rogue2204 said:
I don't think they have to get rid of touchwiz.. just make it optional. Rooting is pretty simple and i'll probably do it, but at the same time, why dont they give the user a choice? Like I said, i'll be using LauncherPro on mine, but I think the gesture would be nice on Sammy's part.
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That's because Samsung uses TouchWiz, HTC uses Sense, Motorola uses Blur... it's their version. What you're asking is Honda to sell you a Civic but give you the option to use a Corolla engine... it can be done, but it must be swapped (rooted)
In my opinion TouchWiz > Sense and MotoBlur it's not that bad and honestly if you really don't like it just root the phone and install a custom ROM why petition over something so cosmetic you can petition for a GPS fix if you want to do something productive.
ForrelZ said:
In my opinion TouchWiz > Sense and MotoBlur it's not that bad and honestly if you really don't like it just root the phone and install a custom ROM why petition over something so cosmetic you can petition for a GPS fix if you want to do something productive.
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+1 ... except im Sense>TouchWiz/Blur
Stock AndroidUI > TouchWiz/Sense/Blur
Moto is apparently dropping blur though. If only they would drop that stupid damn bootloader now.
ForrelZ said:
In my opinion TouchWiz >you can petition for a GPS fix if you want to do something productive.
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Is there something wrong with its GPS?
Edit: Nevermind. I should have read the "GPS Fail" thread before posting that question! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756026
just install another home screen and make it default
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When gingerbread launches, google will require none of the hardware vendors from installing custom skins.
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Got proof? Because I don't think that's going to happen.
Gingerbread will improve on Android's basic UI. The way buttons\menus look. The status bar. Etc. You bet your ass manufacturers are still going to load on their custom UIs. HTC has already said that they will include sense when they update their phones to Android 3.0.
I'm going to have to agree with everyone else. If you don't like TW3, install Launcherpro or ADW. Wait for a custom rom which gets rid of TW3 (like senseless roms for EVO). It's only a matter of time before the Cyanogen team puts out a 100% AOSP rom for it anyway. But for those who don't liek rooting... Launcherpro.
hydralisk said:
Got proof? Because I don't think that's going to happen.
Gingerbread will improve on Android's basic UI. The way buttons\menus look. The status bar. Etc. You bet your ass manufacturers are still going to load on their custom UIs. HTC has already said that they will include sense when they update their phones to Android 3.0.
I'm going to have to agree with everyone else. If you don't like TW3, install Launcherpro or ADW. Wait for a custom rom which gets rid of TW3 (like senseless roms for EVO). It's only a matter of time before the Cyanogen team puts out a 100% AOSP rom for it anyway. But for those who don't liek rooting... Launcherpro.
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The proof is in the videos google made when they were showing off Android 2.2... they said it themselves in the video, I'd search for it but the video is long as hell
see this thread
thought I'd update this thread to point to another more recent thread: How to disable touchwiz
To be honest, Touchwiz is my favorite UI I've used.
Thats above Sense, MotoBlur, Stock, etc.
Always have been a fan of the color themes, love the lockscreen, the dialer, and even coming to like the ****ty horizontal app drawer.
If Samsung can improve Touchwiz to have the media player and other features that are on the other Galaxies, it would be even better!
I was going to say, it's easy enough to turn off. Yeah, I don't care for it, but it's not a big deal to make the vanilla launcher the default one. You don't have to install or remove anything, or need root.
Is it possible to add HTC Sense to the Samsung Epic? Is there a launcher that can do this or just complete different UI theme or even a complete ROM? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Is it possible to add HTC Sense to the Samsung Epic? Is there a launcher that can do this or just complete different UI theme or even a complete ROM? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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LauncherPro is an alternative launcher that can be used with the epic -- However, although there is 'HTC Sense' themse for the launcher itself, I think they would have to be ported over for it to work.
TouchWiz is great, I had hero before epic. In my opinion TW definitely out performs Sense, and isn't as bulky. First question everyone will ask you is "Why not just bye the evo if you wanted Sense?"
id_twin said:
LauncherPro is an alternative launcher that can be used with the epic -- However, although there is 'HTC Sense' themse for the launcher itself, I think they would have to be ported over for it to work.
TouchWiz is great, I had hero before epic. In my opinion TW definitely out performs Sense, and isn't as bulky. First question everyone will ask you is "Why not just bye the evo if you wanted Sense?"
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I have the Epic Experience ROM currently flashed I think, and it has Launcher Pro (I also think, ha). What you're saying is that there are HTC Sense themes for Launcher Pro? Mind explaining how I would be able to change the theme of Launcher Pro to have HTC Sense? And there's a simple, easy answer for that question; The Epic has a nice keyboard that the EVO does not.
You will need to do some google work. First find a LauncherPro sense theme. Then research how to port it over to epic.
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Is it possible to add HTC Sense to the Samsung Epic? Is there a launcher that can do this or just complete different UI theme or even a complete ROM? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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You can add Sense UI by buying an EVO
As far as actually adding HTC Sense to this phone: It won't happen mostly because Sense is all closed source.
youngnick09 said:
Is it possible to add HTC Sense to the Samsung Epic? Is there a launcher that can do this or just complete different UI theme or even a complete ROM? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Your question will be answered tomorrow. Wink wink, hint hint, nudge nudge.
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bubby323 said:
Your question will be answered tomorrow. Wink wink, hint hint, nudge nudge.
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So that is Wisdom huh? So is there no AOSP update tonight either?
um....why would you want that ugly shiz
youngnick09 said:
I have the Epic Experience ROM currently flashed I think, and it has Launcher Pro (I also think, ha). What you're saying is that there are HTC Sense themes for Launcher Pro? Mind explaining how I would be able to change the theme of Launcher Pro to have HTC Sense? And there's a simple, easy answer for that question; The Epic has a nice keyboard that the EVO does not.
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Its actually available on launcher pro plus which is the paid version for widgets to become available. You can buy it thru the market or 4shared is your friend. ;-)
Zei said:
um....why would you want that ugly shiz
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I have a evo as well with sense custom rom and it a lot more functional as far as features go. I love sense, to bad its not availble on the epic. You can always get an evo however the evo doesn't compare to the epic in power. Movies, games and eveything looks better on the epic thanks to it gpu and super amoled.
I think ROM devs might be able to port it over, but we might have to wait for HTC to release a phone similar enough to ours first. That's what happened on my old G1, at least.
illogic6 said:
As far as actually adding HTC Sense to this phone: It won't happen mostly because Sense is all closed source.
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That doesn't make it an impossible task, there's always decompilers, computer science forensics, and educated guess-work that could probably accomplish the job. Whether or not anyone would be willing to take the time to do it is another question.
Of course someone who can code could just start from scratch to build something that gives the same front end results as sense whether or not the back end is actually sense probably wouldn't matter to the end user.
So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
Zdravkobg said:
So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
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I/G is a sense ROM. Which uses the Sense Framework. Cyanogen is a AOSP ROM it is impossible for Sense framework .apk (programs) to work on AOSP ROMs. so to answer your question if you want the camera use I/G.
until htc open sources sense, which they wont do, we will never be able to get sense based apps to run without the sense framework.
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
Zdravkobg said:
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
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I dont have all of the answers you're looking for, but Iced Glacier should have better battery life than stock, and it should perform much better as well.
Swype is supported on cm7. the beta is still open. check out beta.swype.com
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until htc open sources sense, which they wont do
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T-Mobile has open sourced their theming interface to the myTouch 4G.
https://github.com/tmobile
They say it will be rolled into CM7. I don't know if this will be enough to run the stock Camera app and Contacts app.
its already in cm7, but thats not whats needed for the sense features. It literally needs the sense frameworks.
All the tools you need are now available. Opensense SDK, unlock bootloader (aint working) and kernal source code.
Heres to some fab ROMs heading are way!
does this mean the htc widgets would be usable in launcher pro or similar?
lawrence750 said:
does this mean the htc widgets would be usable in launcher pro or similar?
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I could be wrong but I believe that the HTC Widgets require the HTC Framework in order to run. So if you are thinking HTC widgets in Cyan or MIUI....then forget it...never gonna happen!!
I kinda think that is one of the reasons that Cyan & MIUI were developed though for those who don't necessarily want to run Sense. You want Sense widgets?...then run a Sense ROM.
Cheers,
Jaybo
jaybo1au said:
I could be wrong but I believe that the HTC Widgets require the HTC Framework in order to run. So if you are thinking HTC widgets in Cyan or MIUI....then forget it...never gonna happen!!
I kinda think that is one of the reasons that Cyan & MIUI were developed though for those who don't necessarily want to run Sense. You want Sense widgets?...then run a Sense ROM.
Cheers,
Jaybo
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Agreed Sense needs HTC propriatey drivers and framework files and as long a CM refuses to use good drivers for the devices that they were made for it will never happen
the point is that really cool stuffs are coming for sense roms
Many of you may know that I'm in the progress of "Sensify" my GingerDX. So it raises a small question.
As the title says, do you want Sense's boot sound and ringtone instead of current one?
No, it's stupid. This is SE, who wants HTC is free to go buy one.
IT UP TO YOU DUDE IT IS YOUR ROM AFTER ALL
sure if people dont like it thay can edit it there self.
so if "YOU" like the htc boot sound and ringtone do it
as im very greatful that your putting your rom up
so it up to YOU dude
BIG JD said:
IT UP TO YOU DUDE IT IS YOUR ROM AFTER ALL
sure if people dont like it thay can edit it there self.
so if "YOU" like the htc boot sound and ringtone do it
as im very greatful that your putting your rom up
so it up to YOU dude
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i coldn't say it better dx, it's your choice if you want it or not
BIG JD said:
IT UP TO YOU DUDE IT IS YOUR ROM AFTER ALL
sure if people dont like it thay can edit it there self.
so if "YOU" like the htc boot sound and ringtone do it
as im very greatful that your putting your rom up
so it up to YOU dude
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I Agree =)
Doomguy said:
No, it's stupid. This is SE, who wants HTC is free to go buy one.
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Many don't have the money to buy..so don't say it is stupid..I personally would like to have it..but as the others said it is up to you..it is your Rom..
I´m using a different bootanimation and a mp3 file as ringtone, so.....just do what you want (-:
Ok guys, so the decision is made.
If you can, HTC Launcher please !!
Or it's widget (clock, messaging, friends stream,dll.)
Also a setting for Power Saver (it's there, at Salsa sense racht)
Many of us want HTC features at X8 !
(bootanimation too!)
(oops, too many request, it's up to you )
howardmatthew168 said:
If you can, HTC Launcher please !!
Or it's widget (clock, messaging, friends stream,dll.)
Also a setting for Power Saver (it's there, at Salsa sense racht)
Many of us want HTC features at X8 !
(bootanimation too!)
(oops, too many request, it's up to you )
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i think that sense launcher work only on sense roms and sense widgets are working only on sense launcher, it means that if you want sense widgets you need sense rom
fifo171 said:
i think that sense launcher work only on sense roms and sense widgets are working only on sense launcher, it means that if you want sense widgets you need sense rom
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Oh yeah... Forgot that things hehe... but Sense is very cool... i love it...
But i cant buy HTC phones.
No, it's stupid. This is SE, who wants HTC is free to go buy one.
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Oh, buy it yourself.
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i think that sense launcher work only on sense roms and sense widgets are working only on sense launcher, it means that if you want sense widgets you need sense rom
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search lp sense ui laucher it work
or check second last page on gdx.. their is my post with laucher and clock
@doixanh If you include it, pleae make setting to enable/disable it.
velnens123 said:
@doixanh If you include it, pleae make setting to enable/disable it.
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Exactly! Please, DX don't make anything that the user cannot easily remove! I fully respect people who wants to make their SE looking like an HTC, but for me it's like putting a BMW logo on a FIAT. Would you drive such vehicle? Personally, i would NOT, it looks kinda ridiculous.
DougTheModder said:
Exactly! Please, DX don't make anything that the user cannot easily remove! I fully respect people who wants to make their SE looking like an HTC, but for me it's like putting a BMW logo on a FIAT. Would you drive such vehicle? Personally, i would NOT, it looks kinda ridiculous.
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Sorry but it is not like this I think..it is more like improving..and you disable If you want it..lets be realistic..it is not so hard..
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I think that having the same bootsound and the same ringtone of an HTC has nothing to do with the improving of the phone, it's just a personal taste. I was especially referring to those people claiming for the HTC logo during the boot: don't you think that is a kind of ridiculous "wannabe"?
On the other hand, I really appreciate the work Dx has done like the sense lockscreen but I really don't understand how can be nice to see an htc logo on a SE...
Just my opinion
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Why do you people like HTC Sense so much?!
It's ugly,boring,gray,crowded and confusing.The wallpaper is girly.The ringtones are all the same.I just can't see any reason to like it.
SE style is much,much better,airy,open and neat.
doixanh,I appreciate your work,your ROMs are great,but that's completely unnecessary.
in my opinion, it is up to the user.. if dx want to put it, and for the others who dont want it, they may ignore it.. just customize your phone with your style.. in fact, the HTC stuff can be remove.. if dx want to include it, so be it.. lol
DougTheModder said:
I think that having the same bootsound and the same ringtone of an HTC has nothing to do with the improving of the phone, it's just a personal taste. I was especially referring to those people claiming for the HTC logo during the boot: don't you think that is a kind of ridiculous "wannabe"?
On the other hand, I really appreciate the work Dx has done like the sense lockscreen but I really don't understand how can be nice to see an htc logo on a SE...
Just my opinion
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Oh well, for 10000000th time, it's personal taste. I like Sense interface. They're brilliant to me. And thus, I have motivation to "sensify" my GingerDX.
G.Trenchev said:
Why do you people like HTC Sense so much?!
It's ugly,boring,gray,crowded and confusing.The wallpaper is girly.The ringtones are all the same.I just can't see any reason to like it.
SE style is much,much better,airy,open and neat.
doixanh,I appreciate your work,your ROMs are great,but that's completely unnecessary.
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See above. You like SE style, but I don't. You are free to apply any SE theme in Theme and App section. Just do what you want. And I do what I like.
Go ahead. It's your rom, and if people don't want it, it's their problem. You are free to do anything you want with your personal rom. Actually, I don't really think you need a poll at all. If they don't want HTC style roms, they can switch to MiniCM or GingerCruzt etc.