So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
Zdravkobg said:
So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
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I/G is a sense ROM. Which uses the Sense Framework. Cyanogen is a AOSP ROM it is impossible for Sense framework .apk (programs) to work on AOSP ROMs. so to answer your question if you want the camera use I/G.
until htc open sources sense, which they wont do, we will never be able to get sense based apps to run without the sense framework.
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
Zdravkobg said:
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
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I dont have all of the answers you're looking for, but Iced Glacier should have better battery life than stock, and it should perform much better as well.
Swype is supported on cm7. the beta is still open. check out beta.swype.com
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until htc open sources sense, which they wont do
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T-Mobile has open sourced their theming interface to the myTouch 4G.
https://github.com/tmobile
They say it will be rolled into CM7. I don't know if this will be enough to run the stock Camera app and Contacts app.
its already in cm7, but thats not whats needed for the sense features. It literally needs the sense frameworks.
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Does anyone know how I can enable JIT on the Evil Eris Rom 2.0.1. I've used the senseless patch to remove all the Sense UI, except the lock screen.
Just a quick question... if you are on Evil Eris... and wanna make it vanilla why not switch to a vanilla rom?
Honestly, I don't know the difference between the two. I do like how the dialer look though in EE vs Tainted Vanilla.
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Does anyone know how I can enable JIT on the Evil Eris Rom 2.0.1. I've used the senseless patch to remove all the Sense UI, except the lock screen.
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I think there is a zip for JIT on GRDLOK's page. Where can I find the sensless patch?
Just to forewarn you Sense remover doesnt completely remove sense. All the roms here are still Sense Based Roms... until we get AOSP. So... JIT and Sense is very unstable. I suggest if you try it, always make a nand backup.
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I think there is a zip for JIT on GRDLOK's page. Where can I find the sensless patch?
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http://www.zifnab06.net/downloads/
Any clue when AOSP is coming?
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Does anyone know how I can enable JIT on the Evil Eris Rom 2.0.1. I've used the senseless patch to remove all the Sense UI, except the lock screen.
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Don't know what lockscreen EE uses but the htc lockscreen has always locked up on me when using JIT so you might want to remove it too if it still has the htc lockscreen. There was a program I found here on xda a while ago that would remove sense and enable JIT for you all from your computer. I think it was in the hero section but I used it on my eris a while back to try and it did work. It was called Nosense I think if you want to look for it.
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Framework is working on getting all the drivers for the eris working because he to mod some of the .config files. But i can smell it coming...
Thanks. I found the sense remover here and was able to enable JIT. I do also like the Helix Launcher!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675678
It'll be a temp fix for now as I am hearing great things about AOSP, which I'll be switching over to when released.
Turnyface said:
Thanks. I found the sense remover here and was able to enable JIT. I do also like the Helix Launcher!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675678
It'll be a temp fix for now as I am hearing great things about AOSP, which I'll be switching over to when released.
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So uh.. What's AOSP? I've heard it thrown around but never really knew what exactly it was.
JIT lags way too much on my phone. Thanks NAND.
Sheen160 said:
So uh.. What's AOSP? I've heard it thrown around but never really knew what exactly it was.
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project
ASOP is true vanilla without ANY sense
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JIT lags way too much on my phone. Thanks NAND.
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I suggest if you want JIT... because it is snappier even if buggy... Get Tainted Vanilla and try it with JIT_UPDATE.zip... if you like the N1 launcher then run the OpenGL 3D patch (this will make Gallery not work)... Otherwise there is a custom Zeam this dude made and look a lot like N1...
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I suggest if you want JIT... because it is snappier even if buggy... Get Tainted Vanilla and try it with JIT_UPDATE.zip... if you like the N1 launcher then run the OpenGL 3D patch (this will make Gallery not work)... Otherwise there is a custom Zeam this dude made and look a lot like N1...
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I'll take a look into it.
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project
ASOP is true vanilla without ANY sense
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Thanks bro.
Hey guys, I know about the whole "disabling sense" trick in the manage applications folder.
But I was wondering if it were possible to take all sense related things off of my evo completely?
I switched to this phone from the Droid thinking I would really enjoy sense but in all honest I don't.
Aside from updating to the hacked 2.2 Rom. I was wondering if there was a version of 2.1 for the evo that still allowed the camera to work (I use it numerous times a day and haven't really changed roms much because of it.)
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Hey guys, I know about the whole "disabling sense" trick in the manage applications folder.
But I was wondering if it were possible to take all sense related things off of my evo completely?
I switched to this phone from the Droid thinking I would really enjoy sense but in all honest I don't.
Aside from updating to the hacked 2.2 Rom. I was wondering if there was a version of 2.1 for the evo that still allowed the camera to work (I use it numerous times a day and haven't really changed roms much because of it.)
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No, there is not a full AOSP rom for the EVO. As far as I know at least. Darch has a full AOSP rom for the hero, but doesn't develop for the evo. (Not yet )
The best you can do would be disable sense, or flash a rom with "sense removed" which basically means they have replaced the top bar and launcher. From there you can simply install AOSP apps (mail, sms, phonebook, browser, etc) The only thing that you cannot change without an AOSP full rom would be in call. That will stay Sense.
Look in my sig..not the evolution rom the other one..its the closest 2.1 rom that has the most sense crap taken out that I can find.
Thanks man, ill definitely try it out
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Is there a way to remove Sense and add stock Android Home to new 2.1 rom from Rogers? And if yes,how can i do that?
I know that i can remove Rosie from this rom,but there is no stock home in there.
Try ADW or Launcherpro, they are amazingly customizable. Bad thing though, is you cant use HTC widgets
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Yea I know but i dont need home replacement,i want to remove all Sense apps.And use Android ones.
if you don't want the SenseUI, why don't you try any stable Froyo 2.2 ROMs,
try CM5.0.8, it is pretty cool
Well am not sure why but battery is a lot better on 6.35 radios,and i like how stable that Rogers rom is.So that is the reason,and please no more questions about that.
If someone know the answer to question i asked let me know.
i am actually working on a rom which is basically a 2.1 sense with out all the sense lol
Basically im taking out all the widgets and rosie, and then im going to put in ADW, launcher pro, and touchwiz launcher. Also will have apps2sd etc..
right now im still testing it out , but hopefully i will have it done soon
Thats not really answer to my question but good to know.
crisvillani said:
i am actually working on a rom which is basically a 2.1 sense with out all the sense lol
Basically im taking out all the widgets and rosie, and then im going to put in ADW, launcher pro, and touchwiz launcher. Also will have apps2sd etc..
right now im still testing it out , but hopefully i will have it done soon
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why?
there are plenty stable roms without sense
JA_SAM said:
Is there a way to remove Sense and add stock Android Home to new 2.1 rom from Rogers? And if yes,how can i do that?
I know that i can remove Rosie from this rom,but there is no stock home in there.
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Partial answer is here -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802753
However, camera is not working (may others).
I gave up on digging more into kernel due to limited time resource. But, experts' sugguestions are always welcomed.
sharpt71 said:
Partial answer is here -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802753
However, camera is not working (may others).
I gave up on digging more into kernel due to limited time resource. But, experts' sugguestions are always welcomed.
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Yea but i dont need Froyo,so either way i would have to use different kernel?
I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.
i second that motion sir
Haven't you seen the Cyanogenmod thread?
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Sounds like iced glacier to me. And cm is not a port from another device
DADDYDC650 said:
I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.
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well if you mean close to stock as in how the phone came then the only thing we have is Iced-Glacier, if you mean close to stock as in vanilla or AOSP then you need to look into Cyanogen Mod. those are the only 2 that are not ports from another device
i've been using ice glacier for a while and so far so good.
i dunno, but i kinda like the stock sense interface, just wanted the bloatware removed, and ice glacier fits perfectly. Sounds like that's what you want as well
maybe when CM 7 is released i might go back to that
Man..dunno how you could want something more than Cyan, the speed increase is insane, it runs buttery smooth now. I am not a fan of MySense though so that may have swayed me a bit...
I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)
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I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)
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You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.
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You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.
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Seems like people are having issues with all of the custom ROM's. I'll wait awhile before I flash any of them.
Wait until CM7. Gingerbread cut and paste is improved over froyo and zinx is already working on it. Should be niiiice.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
setzer715 said:
The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was not joking. It was a serious question.
Are senseless roms for people who use different launchers? So if I use LPP for example, it'd be better if I used a senseless rom? Does sense drain battery/impact performance? Thanks a lot. Switching from a fascinate and trying to learn the basics.
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bomber889 said:
Are senseless roms for people who use different launchers? So if I use LPP for example, it'd be better if I used a senseless rom? Does sense drain battery/impact performance? Thanks a lot. Switching from a fascinate and trying to learn the basics.
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To be honest, senseless roms are for people who like to have the close to stock experience or wish to use apps/widgets a-la-carte and want the flexibility to try different combinations of these without having the rom be saddled with bloatware.
Keep in mind though that senseless roms dont look as pretty as sense based roms and many features that a sense rom offers like messaging, email widgets have no real or good parallels in the stock/senseless world. So in getting flexibility you lose some really nice features and well the phone looks plainer.
I have had to work very hard to make CM & MIUI work for me by using 3rd party apps/widgets - wasnt easy finding good ones! Sense roms (especially the desire z ports) on the other hand had everything I needed and then some.
That was my personal experience.
bomber889 said:
Are senseless roms for people who use different launchers? So if I use LPP for example, it'd be better if I used a senseless rom? Does sense drain battery/impact performance? Thanks a lot. Switching from a fascinate and trying to learn the basics.
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Yes, yes and yes!
However you would also want to flash a different kernel, and IMHO it would make your rom quicker than stock. By the term senseless keep in mind these are still sense based roms but without rosie ans some other things defined by the individual DEV.
Thanks for your guys responses. I only use LPP so Rosie would be of no use to me. The problem I see with senseless roms is that they don't seem to be updated as much as sense ones. And which one would you recommend to use, skyraider's or Lou's. I would guess they are pretty similar. can't wait to receive my incredible on Friday
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bomber889 said:
Thanks for your guys responses. I only use LPP so Rosie would be of no use to me. The problem I see with senseless roms is that they don't seem to be updated as much as sense ones. And which one would you recommend to use, skyraider's or Lou's. I would guess they are pretty similar. can't wait to receive my incredible on Friday
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i'm using lous w/ kernal#4 so far no problems. Find it much quicker than the sense roms i was using before.
If you use 3rd party for most apps (chomp for message, gmail for email, lp for launcher) there really isn't much use for a sense rom IMO.
+ Lous has the smooth icons and still the sense lock screen, fine by me.
Enjoy owning the best phone in the world!
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Thanks for your guys responses. I only use LPP so Rosie would be of no use to me. The problem I see with senseless roms is that they don't seem to be updated as much as sense ones. And which one would you recommend to use, skyraider's or Lou's. I would guess they are pretty similar. can't wait to receive my incredible on Friday
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I would say Lou's hands down, of course I'm sure you will find other opinions on here. He does great work! and dresses his roms up nice.
As you become more familiar with flashing roms and what you can and cannot remove from a rom it is fairly easy (at least I think it is) for you to flash for example I use Lou's 2.1.3 rom and remove whatever you don't like on the rom. This way there are many options and you can get it just the way you want.
If you decide to jump into this you might want to consider getting some nice apps. I use Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, AppBrain, Adfree on a reg basis. I save my contacts to my SD card as well. This way I can switch between roms as I please have all my info stored and can swith basicly within a hour to a different flavor whenever I want. Oh and yes I use LPP on all my roms as well.
Hope this helps some
lou's sense-less and kernal #04 or 06 work for me. Ive grown very tired of sense.. what is it now 4 or so years between WM and android.lol though I do have to say running sense on teh DINC by far was the best exp.. no lag and it was smooth.. but I like options..so senseless made more sense to me.. keep the base.. and customize the launcher without the bloat..lol
Always loved Redemptive by Lou.
Virtuous is the best sense app I've used and I've tried em all. Mounting, GPS, everything works and its fast. I use a sense Rom cause I like the messaging. I HATE that stupid Ass smiley instead of a return key you see in all the non-sense roms and I don't want to use an extra app to text!
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theres no smiley instead of a return key on my keyboard or messaging. i'm running lou's senseless rom
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theres no smiley instead of a return key on my keyboard or messaging. i'm running lou's senseless rom
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I think he's referring to a vanilla keyboard rather than a "senseless" keyboard.