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Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo
Morkai Almandragon said:
Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo
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It sounds like you want something like Tainted Vanilla with a Froyo base... Maybe someone will get the motivation to do that. Maybe not. It's not a bad idea.
I personally find AOSP based ROMs to meet my needs, but Sense isn't bad. It just slows things down, and this phone doesn't need to be slowed down.
Another hybrid ROM with the extra speed that Froyo and OCing brings... Hmm. It's something to thing about.
I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.
I know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a Sense Froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so I won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.
phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.
I believe Framework is working on a Froyo version of sense.
ban_dover said:
phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.
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I don't mind the look of 2.0, I love froyo, its the missing functionality that is killing me.
es0tericcha0s said:
i know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a sense froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so i won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.
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drizzy you better make a sense froyo!
Morkai Almandragon said:
I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.
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This is the exact idea behind xtrROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694472
is that a hint you are working to extend that to FroYo?-
I kinda like the look of the new sense that the desire didnt get. i also know that there is a sense based froyo build possibly coming this way soooon/
I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel
i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol
grndnpnd said:
i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol
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I hate Sense. I used Ivan's Official until Tainted Vanilla came along, and switched to True Vanilla when it became available. Have not used a Sense ROM since.
I'm not a dev, but there are people that indeed dislike Sense
refthemc said:
I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel
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what sense rom do you use thats snappier and smoother?
what AOSP roms have you used that are slower then sense. . . so i can make sure to not use them. No offense sense rom builders, but i havent had any luck with sense roms. i do love how it looks just slows my already slow enough phone down further.
#1 there always twitching between simple home screen scrolling and app drawer scrolling let alone anything that needs to actually use the CPU
#2 my battery dies much faster with all of those awesome looking widgets
#3 JIT doesn't play too nice with sense making it slightly lose its edge against AOSP roms.
I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy
Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
DDustiNN said:
I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy
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Facebook sync has been working with the newest CELB build. When I boot, the market has an updated FB app. I suspect this may be the cause.
Duffman3005 said:
Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
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Yes, I know, it was the rom I used before FroYo...
now that I think about it, is it possible to get the BT functionality in 2.2 ported to 2.1?
Is there a way to remove Sense and add stock Android Home to new 2.1 rom from Rogers? And if yes,how can i do that?
I know that i can remove Rosie from this rom,but there is no stock home in there.
Try ADW or Launcherpro, they are amazingly customizable. Bad thing though, is you cant use HTC widgets
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using XDA App
Yea I know but i dont need home replacement,i want to remove all Sense apps.And use Android ones.
if you don't want the SenseUI, why don't you try any stable Froyo 2.2 ROMs,
try CM5.0.8, it is pretty cool
Well am not sure why but battery is a lot better on 6.35 radios,and i like how stable that Rogers rom is.So that is the reason,and please no more questions about that.
If someone know the answer to question i asked let me know.
i am actually working on a rom which is basically a 2.1 sense with out all the sense lol
Basically im taking out all the widgets and rosie, and then im going to put in ADW, launcher pro, and touchwiz launcher. Also will have apps2sd etc..
right now im still testing it out , but hopefully i will have it done soon
Thats not really answer to my question but good to know.
crisvillani said:
i am actually working on a rom which is basically a 2.1 sense with out all the sense lol
Basically im taking out all the widgets and rosie, and then im going to put in ADW, launcher pro, and touchwiz launcher. Also will have apps2sd etc..
right now im still testing it out , but hopefully i will have it done soon
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why?
there are plenty stable roms without sense
JA_SAM said:
Is there a way to remove Sense and add stock Android Home to new 2.1 rom from Rogers? And if yes,how can i do that?
I know that i can remove Rosie from this rom,but there is no stock home in there.
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Partial answer is here -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802753
However, camera is not working (may others).
I gave up on digging more into kernel due to limited time resource. But, experts' sugguestions are always welcomed.
sharpt71 said:
Partial answer is here -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802753
However, camera is not working (may others).
I gave up on digging more into kernel due to limited time resource. But, experts' sugguestions are always welcomed.
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Yea but i dont need Froyo,so either way i would have to use different kernel?
I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.
i second that motion sir
Haven't you seen the Cyanogenmod thread?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
Sounds like iced glacier to me. And cm is not a port from another device
DADDYDC650 said:
I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.
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well if you mean close to stock as in how the phone came then the only thing we have is Iced-Glacier, if you mean close to stock as in vanilla or AOSP then you need to look into Cyanogen Mod. those are the only 2 that are not ports from another device
i've been using ice glacier for a while and so far so good.
i dunno, but i kinda like the stock sense interface, just wanted the bloatware removed, and ice glacier fits perfectly. Sounds like that's what you want as well
maybe when CM 7 is released i might go back to that
Man..dunno how you could want something more than Cyan, the speed increase is insane, it runs buttery smooth now. I am not a fan of MySense though so that may have swayed me a bit...
I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)
smonme said:
I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)
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You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.
DADDYDC650 said:
You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.
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Seems like people are having issues with all of the custom ROM's. I'll wait awhile before I flash any of them.
Wait until CM7. Gingerbread cut and paste is improved over froyo and zinx is already working on it. Should be niiiice.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
setzer715 said:
The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was not joking. It was a serious question.
Ok... there are a nice hand full of "sense-less" sense roms out right now, Athena being my favorite of these. But once upon a time, before Incdoes blew up into a monster dev (then crashed and burned) he did the complete opposite. He had his "Best of both worlds" AOSP rom with sense stuff in it (rom thread here) This was my favorite rom at that time.... I like AOSP but also like a lot of the sense... i know i'm not the only one who feels the same, so can this be done now with GB? Hope someone with the skills tries this cuz i think people would like this also......
I still have his v2.0 and v2.1 if someone wants to take a look at them and try for them selves.....
download links....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSP_v2.0_signed.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSPv2.1_signed.zip
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
I agree. I LOVED that rom. Sense widget support with a stock launcher (and feel) for me would be ideal. Great idea trying to bring something of this caliber back!
JoeProcopio said:
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
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I'll post v2.0 and 2.1 as soon as I get home, about 30min......
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
WOuld this rom be able to use the sense facebook and such?
Updated OP with download links.....
Edit: Disregard
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
crondable said:
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
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That's one of the major things that takes me back to sense....
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
I'd love to pull is HTC Flashlight and Camera apps for AOSP Gingerbread
bump cuz i want this!!!!!!!
It seems like the think in that rom that worked were just apks werent they?
Most HTC apks should be installable still. Im not sure if that rom used actually sense widgets or not.
I think there are framework issues. Especially since HTC has not released their gingerbread update yet. Even then, I'm sure its proprietary.
Khanam also posted 2.3 in the original thread. This may help whoever wants to take this over.
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found 2.3 in my office pc. its 77.25mb. here is the link. should work. flashing it was finicky when i flashed it way back so dont be surprised if you get FCs. also how i got it to work was by flashing it over cm6. maybe it was just me
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IMUZX8G
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htc flash hero to Android 3.2 Ginger Bread or prefer to Android 2.2 Froyo
I wanted to ask how it is flashed to Android 2.3.Denn as I can read it here it is indeed the rom, but it is generally weak for the Hero? Or rather 2.2 flashed? For I bröchte already a rom, the but also in German
I still have Froyd Villain Rom but I read a lot of good about the 2.3 roms and I am waiting to change over as soon as the RC are done and Elelinux puts out a definite version of his rom(or Cyanogen).
For the german part, I decided for myself to go with english because it is easier to find as it is standart on the roms and it is also easier to describe with the english words when I have problems (also the descriptions use the english terms). As far as I know in most roms you can chose the language and it should work without problems...
but how do I braid at all? because I have 2.1 on it yet
I am not sure what you mean by braid, but if you mean root, than here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4257045
The roms can be downloaded here in the forums and then just flash them as indicated.
pigtail I mean how can I flashed it?
I'm using latest version of Elelinux-7.0.0-RC1-Hero-v0.9 and it's running good so far
Will check GPS connectivity tonight on the way from the office
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pigtail I mean how can I flashed it?
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Here you find all the information you are looking for. That helped me alot when I started flashing
BTW: I just found this in this very forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253. I ll leave the other link in too (I hope thats ok) but you should find everything you are looking for in these guides.
I'm still on froyo but with a gingerbread theme. I'll probably wait until cm7 is final.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
I think I'd very much prefer 2.3 Gingerbread
Will probably flash CM7 tonight just to check out... hopefully it will become final SOON ^^
BTW, I'm new on the forum
I prefer gingerbread using cm7 nightlies atm
I'm on the cm7 nighties too. The default keyboard alone makes 2.3 worthwhile!
First time ROM user....
I was at a loose end yesterday and ended up using ROM manager to install Elelinux 7.0.0 version of Gingerbread on my GSM HTC Hero, TMobile branded G2. I have been messing about with root and launcher pro/ADW for ages and was getting really bored with my Hero, too slow for lots of apps, too old etc. This ROM has given it a new lease of life and lots to play with. I haven't fully worked out what's what etc and am loathe to fill it up with lots of personalised settings and apps because I might well find myself flashing another ROM before long. Thanks be to Google for storing most of my stuff in 'the cloud' and making me NEVER have to lose my contacts again.
I am impressed with this ROM, no crashes, fast and efficient. Only a bit of graphics lag on swiping across screens.
Also, does anyone know why there is no pinch on homescreen to show miniature versions of the screens?
Thanks,
Hamish
Try putting two fingers in opposite corners of the screen and slide them to the center
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
I think Froyo is probably the fastest on Hero from what I've heard and personally experienced with a mix of Ele CM6.2 Speed, and Ele/Cronos Gingerbread builds.
The difference though, especially with Ele 1.1.1 for me at least who doesn't really have the animations and runs at 691MHz isn't enough for me to want extra speed by downgrading to 2.2. I'm happy enough eating some gingerbread everyday now, although it took a while!
Since my last post I realised that I was on 0.9. I then tried froyd villain but got scared. I now have 1.1.1 and it's great. One problem is the gps losing it's fix. Any ideas on how to fix?
I LOVE the new photo gallery and the camera seems better too.
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
There's a fix on post (change gps libs from CM7 nightlies..)
Perdita2000
I put gingerbread 2.3 on my hero and it was so much better for a while.
But now for some reason it has started to run a bit slow not loading the home screen. I have not able to figure out why yet.
Do not want to go back to 2.2 now.
Launcher pro does not seem to like gingerbread for some reason. keeps force closing.
Still learning android an dhow to troubleshoot and optimize.