If I may ask... - Droid Eris Android Development

Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo

Morkai Almandragon said:
Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo
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It sounds like you want something like Tainted Vanilla with a Froyo base... Maybe someone will get the motivation to do that. Maybe not. It's not a bad idea.
I personally find AOSP based ROMs to meet my needs, but Sense isn't bad. It just slows things down, and this phone doesn't need to be slowed down.
Another hybrid ROM with the extra speed that Froyo and OCing brings... Hmm. It's something to thing about.

I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.

I know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a Sense Froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so I won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.

phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.

I believe Framework is working on a Froyo version of sense.

ban_dover said:
phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.
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I don't mind the look of 2.0, I love froyo, its the missing functionality that is killing me.

es0tericcha0s said:
i know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a sense froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so i won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.
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drizzy you better make a sense froyo!

Morkai Almandragon said:
I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.
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This is the exact idea behind xtrROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694472

is that a hint you are working to extend that to FroYo?-

I kinda like the look of the new sense that the desire didnt get. i also know that there is a sense based froyo build possibly coming this way soooon/

I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel

i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol

grndnpnd said:
i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol
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I hate Sense. I used Ivan's Official until Tainted Vanilla came along, and switched to True Vanilla when it became available. Have not used a Sense ROM since.
I'm not a dev, but there are people that indeed dislike Sense

refthemc said:
I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel
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what sense rom do you use thats snappier and smoother?
what AOSP roms have you used that are slower then sense. . . so i can make sure to not use them. No offense sense rom builders, but i havent had any luck with sense roms. i do love how it looks just slows my already slow enough phone down further.
#1 there always twitching between simple home screen scrolling and app drawer scrolling let alone anything that needs to actually use the CPU
#2 my battery dies much faster with all of those awesome looking widgets
#3 JIT doesn't play too nice with sense making it slightly lose its edge against AOSP roms.

I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy

Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App

DDustiNN said:
I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy
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Facebook sync has been working with the newest CELB build. When I boot, the market has an updated FB app. I suspect this may be the cause.

Duffman3005 said:
Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
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Yes, I know, it was the rom I used before FroYo...
now that I think about it, is it possible to get the BT functionality in 2.2 ported to 2.1?

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Sense UI for the nexus?

Would there be a SenseUI available for the N1?
Does HTC have any intention on releasing an official 2.1 N1 rom?
I hate to get it flashed just to find out that the noise canceling or BT dont work.... That was little pain with the MyTouch..
This isn't development . Hopefully, we can keep this dev area cleaner than the Dream's. . .
Why would you want to put SenseUI on a Nexus? That's blasphemy
Why, for the bloat, of course.
I posted in here because I was wondering if anyone will be working on this type of ROM... so it is development related in a way.
SenseUI has WAY better interface than plain android. I love it but it runs sluggish on MyTouch. Obviously the N1 has the hardware to support this and not even flinch.
The new 2.1 SenseUI got leaked for the Hero. I was wondering if someone would be cooking a rom for the N1 with it. =)
But seriously HTC's widgets are the best!!!
zambezy said:
Would there be a SenseUI available for the N1?
Does HTC have any intention on releasing an official 2.1 N1 rom?
I hate to get it flashed just to find out that the noise canceling or BT dont work.... That was little pain with the MyTouch..
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to asnwer one part of your question, no, HTC will not be making a senseUI ROM as this is a google experiance phone. Much like the G1 and MT3G, they wont be getting a SenseUI ROM upgrade.
cyanogen said:
Why would you want to put SenseUI on a Nexus? That's blasphemy
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OH boy Cyanogens over here too!
i was sceptical on buying this phone as if cyan would be here workin with us then i just seen his post..5 seconds later i just bought this phone...arriving 2-3 business days.. lOL
Go Cyanogen!
Exactly, I saw him buy it, and off I went. I wonder how many he's selling for Google? lol.
Seriously looking forward to his new creations from this beast.
I do agree, Sense would be pretty BA if possible.
a sense rom will be made, just a matter of time
cyanogen said:
Why would you want to put SenseUI on a Nexus? That's blasphemy
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Thank you! The MAN has spoken! So has it been said, so it shall be written.
adelco93 said:
a sense rom will be made, just a matter of time
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from your mouth to gods ears...
The sense ui is the bomb. I own the mytouch and have Qteknology's rom installed and although the sense ui is a tad bit slow on it, i REFUSE to go back to the donut ui.
I wish i could find a faster sense rom for my MT3G with full exchange support.
The second i hear N1 has the sense ui i will be all over it.
Not an official one but I would assume that when the Bravo is released it would be pretty easy to port the rom from that over as it's basically the same phone...
hahaha i love how cyanogen has like a flock of followers. tweet "jumping off bridge" and a lot of people would die. yeah actually i couldnt decide whether or not to buy this phone...i had the money but still its a LOT of money and not that big of an upgrade from my g1. dont analyze that comment i know its more amazing in every way its just...i had a hard time deciding if the upgrades / speed was worth $550.
seeing cyanogen get it...kinda put me over the edge...so its coming tomorrow. hahah.
on another note, i feel that cyanogen should finally play with sense/rosie/whatever. i think he stayed away from it on g1 cause it was too slow...but i dont think that will be an issue anymore . so hopefully he includes it...or pieces of it...cause some of their stuff is really cool and would be amazing on this fast phone.
cyanogen said:
Why would you want to put SenseUI on a Nexus? That's blasphemy
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perhaps itll be blasphemous.... but itll run fast as ****
Okay, maybe all of you people just missed the videos of this phone running Android 2.1. I don't understand how you can say Sense UI is better than the 2.1 version that the nexus is running. I mean, live wall papers is enough to get me over the animated widgets. I can't explain it, but I was watching the press conference and what they were doing with the photo gallery was amazing. I like the lock screen on 2.1 better than I do the Sense 2.0 lockscreen. The drag to answer is cool. Just take another look at some of the demo videos. I don't think there is much comparison.
OMG I GOT THE PHONE. and sense is different / better IMO. i havent looked at it in awhile but the widgets were crazy (better than the battery-eating live wallpapers)...and the dialer was definitely better and i dont remember the lockscreen but i think it was cool...idk whenever i used sense i loved it except it was too slow.
I hope I can have Hero's SenseUI on my N1. The new SenseUI for Espresso / 2.1 is quite ugly IMO.
But that is still way better than the vanilla 2.1 UI. No doubt about it
ccunningham83 said:
Okay, maybe all of you people just missed the videos of this phone running Android 2.1. I don't understand how you can say Sense UI is better than the 2.1 version that the nexus is running. I mean, live wall papers is enough to get me over the animated widgets. I can't explain it, but I was watching the press conference and what they were doing with the photo gallery was amazing. I like the lock screen on 2.1 better than I do the Sense 2.0 lockscreen. The drag to answer is cool. Just take another look at some of the demo videos. I don't think there is much comparison.
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Sorry man. Sense UI is where it's at!
Just think, everything 2.1 can do, Sense can do it better. You can have your cake and eat it too, and then get extra fat on the ice cream and potato chips sitting on the side. Why stop there...
Personally I can't stand Twidroid in comparison to HTC's Peep App, and I love the way home screen looks in comparison to Vanilla Android. Cmon already! Sense Sense Sense it.
cyanogen said:
Why would you want to put SenseUI on a Nexus? That's blasphemy
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This settles it..definately getting a nexus one instead of a new laptop!
btw maybe a crossbreed between sense&the nexus UI could be made
its a hard decision for me , i love the live wallpapers&the way photos look but i also like the sense animated widgets

Is an all AOSP Rom even possible?

I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
Yeah. There's AOSP 1.6, and DarchDroid is based off of AOSP 2.1. Do a search next time....
an all asop rom is not fully possible yet, theres a few out there but the camera doesnt work and a few other things but thats because they cant fix that until the official 2.1 comes out then we will have our fully aosp, theres darch vanilla, and darch droid, but a few things are missing as i stated above, if you are like me and you want a fully functionable aosp rom just wait until this update comes out then my friend we score, i hate sense, it blows...............ive been waiting for this a long time....dont even bother with the old aosp roms i mean their good but not 100%
RavenII said:
I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
pseudoremora said:
Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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i was about a **** hair from choosing a moment, almost wish i would have gotten one kinda, but then again idk, i hope a dev made use out of that decent processor
MatrixROM is all ASOP
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
HeroMeng said:
Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
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And might I add it's all HTCs fault because they won't release the .29 kernel source and their massive amount of modification to it disallows the ability to just port over a .29 kernel as it is... What Android was all about in the first place.
pseudoremora said:
Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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Haha, I have one of those too...but let me tell you, if you flash 2.1 on it, and even THINK about thinking about looking at it to go online or play a game....or make a call, your battery drains.
HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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No prob.

Froyo w/ Sense

We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
rockypr said:
We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
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possibly? we only have a small handful of devs, so im not sure if anyone will do it? personally i don't like sense, i just want a stable froyo rom.
Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
DirtyShroomz said:
Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
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Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
rockypr said:
Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
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Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
I loved Sense and would not flash an AOSP Rom, but once they released the first build of CM6 back in June I flashed it and kept it on my phone for 3 weeks. I installed launcher pro and beautiful widgets along with some other apps that I thought were decent like extended control widget. I got sense deprived and flashed a sense rom back on, but found myself reinstalling launcher pro because I like dock a lot more than Sense. And people can say that they can make a ROM with Sense just as fast as froyo are lying. I tried everything I could to get it as fast as froyo but was unable too. I have DC running right now, because I am working on porting something over from the EVO. Once everything is working on CM6 I will flash again.
The only thing that may be good is to get the HTC framework working with froyo and then you can still use the HTC apps, but other than that you can find alternative widgets that are close to or better than the HTC widgets
BrandoKC said:
Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
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IMHO, the only one Not replaceable is the VVM. (and no, GoogVoice is not a great alternative/just as good, frankly. the number forwarding shell game, redundant emails, txtx, etc, annoying. and simply not as responsive or "easy to use") I hate to say it, but it was this feature that sold me on this phone. of course since I have found other reasons to love it.
everything else can be replaced easy. (in fact, msg me w/ your email, I can send a pack...)
personally not using Froyo just yet, looking forward to a Sense port as well... but I can wait.
Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
rockypr said:
Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
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golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
darchstar said:
u guys r such n00bz . we can't port an htc evo rom cuz its optimized to run on snapdragon armv7 arch. it will never boot with those libs. our hopes for a 2.2 sense rom would be a froyo legend rom, or a froyo espresso rom, as those both have libs optimized for armv61/armv5te
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and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
kingdazy said:
golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
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Ok Thanks!
No porting the desire is not worth while. The legend will be the one I and several other dev's are waiting for this will get ported to the hero.
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Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.
DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
stuff said:
WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.
I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^
Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.
I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!
Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?
Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

[rom request] Vanilla makes Sense...

Ok... there are a nice hand full of "sense-less" sense roms out right now, Athena being my favorite of these. But once upon a time, before Incdoes blew up into a monster dev (then crashed and burned) he did the complete opposite. He had his "Best of both worlds" AOSP rom with sense stuff in it (rom thread here) This was my favorite rom at that time.... I like AOSP but also like a lot of the sense... i know i'm not the only one who feels the same, so can this be done now with GB? Hope someone with the skills tries this cuz i think people would like this also......
I still have his v2.0 and v2.1 if someone wants to take a look at them and try for them selves.....
download links....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSP_v2.0_signed.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSPv2.1_signed.zip
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
I agree. I LOVED that rom. Sense widget support with a stock launcher (and feel) for me would be ideal. Great idea trying to bring something of this caliber back!
JoeProcopio said:
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
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I'll post v2.0 and 2.1 as soon as I get home, about 30min......
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
WOuld this rom be able to use the sense facebook and such?
Updated OP with download links.....
Edit: Disregard
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
crondable said:
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
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That's one of the major things that takes me back to sense....
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
I'd love to pull is HTC Flashlight and Camera apps for AOSP Gingerbread
bump cuz i want this!!!!!!!
It seems like the think in that rom that worked were just apks werent they?
Most HTC apks should be installable still. Im not sure if that rom used actually sense widgets or not.
I think there are framework issues. Especially since HTC has not released their gingerbread update yet. Even then, I'm sure its proprietary.
Khanam also posted 2.3 in the original thread. This may help whoever wants to take this over.
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found 2.3 in my office pc. its 77.25mb. here is the link. should work. flashing it was finicky when i flashed it way back so dont be surprised if you get FCs. also how i got it to work was by flashing it over cm6. maybe it was just me
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IMUZX8G
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