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If I may ask...

Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo

Morkai Almandragon said:
Do any of the devs prefer Sense?
Im finding more and more "little" things I did not realize were particular to sense (email that doesn't suck harder than a Tijuana Whore on pay day, the lack of Vcard functionality etc).
Problem is, I am loving froyo too
So anyhow I guess more directly I want to know if anyone is working on a sense/froyo
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It sounds like you want something like Tainted Vanilla with a Froyo base... Maybe someone will get the motivation to do that. Maybe not. It's not a bad idea.
I personally find AOSP based ROMs to meet my needs, but Sense isn't bad. It just slows things down, and this phone doesn't need to be slowed down.
Another hybrid ROM with the extra speed that Froyo and OCing brings... Hmm. It's something to thing about.

I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.

I know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a Sense Froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so I won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.

phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.

I believe Framework is working on a Froyo version of sense.

ban_dover said:
phonebook 2.0 looks a LOT like the htc contacts.
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I don't mind the look of 2.0, I love froyo, its the missing functionality that is killing me.

es0tericcha0s said:
i know one "dev" that is wanting to start work on a sense froyo, but there are some people here that aren't fans of this gentleman so i won't bother mentioning his name. Keep an eye out over at androidforums though.
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drizzy you better make a sense froyo!

Morkai Almandragon said:
I could honestly care less about the ascthetic parts of sense... In Fact I would kill to see a vanilla rom with HTC mail and contacts only...
I just hoped some of the devs prefered sense.
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This is the exact idea behind xtrROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694472

is that a hint you are working to extend that to FroYo?-

I kinda like the look of the new sense that the desire didnt get. i also know that there is a sense based froyo build possibly coming this way soooon/

I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel

i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol

grndnpnd said:
i dont think that people dont like sense i know i do i just like JIT way more lol
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I hate Sense. I used Ivan's Official until Tainted Vanilla came along, and switched to True Vanilla when it became available. Have not used a Sense ROM since.
I'm not a dev, but there are people that indeed dislike Sense

refthemc said:
I actually enjoy sense, it seems more snappier and fluid then the Vanilla roms released, I know its just a kernel thing though. Which is why I can't wait for Kaos to come out with his new kernel
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what sense rom do you use thats snappier and smoother?
what AOSP roms have you used that are slower then sense. . . so i can make sure to not use them. No offense sense rom builders, but i havent had any luck with sense roms. i do love how it looks just slows my already slow enough phone down further.
#1 there always twitching between simple home screen scrolling and app drawer scrolling let alone anything that needs to actually use the CPU
#2 my battery dies much faster with all of those awesome looking widgets
#3 JIT doesn't play too nice with sense making it slightly lose its edge against AOSP roms.

I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy

Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
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DDustiNN said:
I used to like sense until I started using White Widow... now the only thing I actually miss from Sense is the Facebook contact linking. Everything else seems to have a replacement so far... and often more customizable, which I always enjoy
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Facebook sync has been working with the newest CELB build. When I boot, the market has an updated FB app. I suspect this may be the cause.

Duffman3005 said:
Evil Eris is a very solid sense rom imo.
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Yes, I know, it was the rom I used before FroYo...
now that I think about it, is it possible to get the BT functionality in 2.2 ported to 2.1?

Are there any custom ROM's that were NOT ported?

I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.

i second that motion sir

Haven't you seen the Cyanogenmod thread?
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Sounds like iced glacier to me. And cm is not a port from another device

DADDYDC650 said:
I would like to install a custom ROM that was NOT ported over from another device. A ROM close to stock but without all the BS programs + some expanded capabilities. Seems like there are only ROM's that were ported from other devices available which I appreciate but would like to try at a later date when they are more stable/complete.
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well if you mean close to stock as in how the phone came then the only thing we have is Iced-Glacier, if you mean close to stock as in vanilla or AOSP then you need to look into Cyanogen Mod. those are the only 2 that are not ports from another device

i've been using ice glacier for a while and so far so good.
i dunno, but i kinda like the stock sense interface, just wanted the bloatware removed, and ice glacier fits perfectly. Sounds like that's what you want as well
maybe when CM 7 is released i might go back to that

Man..dunno how you could want something more than Cyan, the speed increase is insane, it runs buttery smooth now. I am not a fan of MySense though so that may have swayed me a bit...

I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)

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I love mysense copy and paste, and new Evil-HD port (I know you didnt want a port because you want something stable) is the most stable rom i've run yet, Tried CM ran into little issues, Tried Iced Glacier ran into speed issues and force closes and random reboots... Since installing Evil-HD I like sense even more. (Sense HD is like the upgraded version of mysense looks way better)
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You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.

DADDYDC650 said:
You say that Evil's Desire HD ROM runs better than Iced and CM? I'll give it a try in the next couple of releases.
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Seems like people are having issues with all of the custom ROM's. I'll wait awhile before I flash any of them.

Wait until CM7. Gingerbread cut and paste is improved over froyo and zinx is already working on it. Should be niiiice.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

setzer715 said:
The thread is a JOKE!!! Everyone was screaming there wasn't enough developement and now that its here ya'll whining that it isn't good enough. If you dont like what is here MAKE YOUR OWN FRIGGIN ROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was not joking. It was a serious question.

[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

[Q] HTC Sense with Gingerbread Desire Rom

is a desire Z rom planed with htc sense based on gingerbread?

Would be nice.
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Lmao rofl
Are you serious or are you just trolling?
Sent from my HD2 running Android on NAND

Derek0228 said:
Lmao rofl
Are you serious or are you just trolling?
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OP has a serious and legitimate question. Sense is the only reason I'm waiting for the GB switch myself.
Obvious anti-troll is obvious.

HTC has already announced that will upgrade to android 2.3 with new sense the desire HD, desire Z, incredible s and the "classic" desire

I would love to have sense on my Gingerbread as well. But there are alternatives to sense also. Search Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Animations, Beautiful Live Wallpaper, Beautiful Home Weather and install those.
I use em instead of Sense and I am growing quite fond of them myself.
Huzzah to an excellent alternative
^>^
P.S. Good to see you around Snark.
Sent from that big thing attached to my hand - Oh my HD2, I mean.

Tribulattifather said:
I would love to have sense on my Gingerbread as well. But there are alternatives to sense also. Search Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Animations, Beautiful Live Wallpaper, Beautiful Home Weather and install those.
I use em instead of Sense and I am growing quite fond of them myself.
Huzzah to an excellent alternative
^>^
P.S. Good to see you around Snark.
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First of all, welcome over to the HD2, Trib! I hope you are planning to cook for us, it would be cool to see what you come up with
I like the Beautiful Widgets (et. al.) but Sense has so much more to offer, like the Skins and FriendStream. I've recently switched to pulse from the sense News Widget, so I'm not married to the Sense widgets, but then there is more to Sense than the eye-candy.
I've tried and liked CM6 and CM7 ROMs in the past, but I was an early-adopter of Gingerbread and was turned off by the lack of available stuff in the Market. I plan to go back (err. forward) some day, but I am going to wait for Sense this time.

Thank you for the welcome, mate.
Hopefully there will be Honeycomb for us some day. I was thinking about waiting to cook then; there are too many ROMs right now for us in the Android HD2 marquie.
I do have some idea though. So if we never see Android 3.0, then I will show what I have in mind.

Tribulattifather said:
I would love to have sense on my Gingerbread as well. But there are alternatives to sense also. Search Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Animations, Beautiful Live Wallpaper, Beautiful Home Weather and install those.
I use em instead of Sense and I am growing quite fond of them myself.
Huzzah to an excellent alternative
^>^
P.S. Good to see you around Snark.
Sent from that big thing attached to my hand - Oh my HD2, I mean.
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You are right about those widgets, but as some one else said,sense has much more things to offer.. For example people (phonebook),and smart dialer.. Those 2 things are only things that are keeping me away from gingerbread or CM builds.. If there is a way to have sense like phonebook and dialer,i would switch to ginger or CM instantly..
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Tribulattifather said:
Thank you for the welcome, mate.
Hopefully there will be Honeycomb for us some day. I was thinking about waiting to cook then; there are too many ROMs right now for us in the Android HD2 marquie.
I do have some idea though. So if we never see Android 3.0, then I will show what I have in mind.
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Google has specifically stated that Honeycomb is for tablets only and the UI wasn't intended to work on smaller screens. Engadget said something about a guy here on XDA hitting a settings switch in the SDK that turned Honeycomb into a smaller, phone-like aspect without the major UI stuff.
I'm not so concerned about Honeycomb, except that it threatens to fragment Android (tablet vs phones) right now. I think Gingerbread could be perfect if Google could get BT HID licensed without having to pay for it.

thx for the answers. i hope htc publish sense for gingerbread soon. it was very fast on my hd2.
i like sense. some functions a very comfortable.

Laynee1 said:
You are right about those widgets, but as some one else said,sense has much more things to offer.. For example people (phonebook),and smart dialer.. Those 2 things are only things that are keeping me away from gingerbread or CM builds.. If there is a way to have sense like phonebook and dialer,i would switch to ginger or CM instantly..
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Try "Dialer one" you can get it from market.

camera is one of the things that keeps me attached with sense.

Think HTC are missing a trick here... just release an official Sense ROM for the HD2 - they'll be selling HD2's by the bucketload!

drunkenfcuk said:
Think HTC are missing a trick here... just release an official Sense ROM for the HD2 - they'll be selling HD2's by the bucketload!
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Lol and then have m$ sue them?
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Skellyyy said:
Lol and then have m$ sue them?
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How about 'accidentally' leaking an unofficial one then?

Best myTouch 4g Rom

What's the best mytouch 4g rom right now? Ive tried all the obvious ones; iced, cyanogen, muiu, hd sense. Just wondered if there was something else out there, something better, or different. Getting a little bored with the obvious, like to test new things.
Any thoughts?
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pnut22r said:
What's the best mytouch 4g rom right now? Ive tried all the obvious ones; iced, cyanogen, muiu, hd sense. Just wondered if there was something else out there, something better, or different. Getting a little bored with the obvious, like to test new things.
Any thoughts?
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think your only option would be to wait until the devs get honeycomb or liquid metal going for our phone

Ice is good~~Without the sound of Camara so you can do some evil things~

I'm really loving the thunderbolt port right now.
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nick34609 said:
I'm really loving the thunderbolt port right now.
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I digging it too. Had to switch the font, but otherwise, TB is hella responsive. We'll see how the battery life is after a full drain and recharge.

IMO Its all about preference. You gotta ask yourself if y like stock android or sense (among other overlays)
Personally. I havent experienced a rom smoother than Ice Glacier yet. I was surprised since CM7 was less than half the size but smoothness was way behind Ice. IMO Sense roms are more optimized for our chipsets since thats what HTC works on most so im Sense all the way

It really is all personal preference. Especially with a phone like this with so many options the differences in performance are going to be nominal. I personally love CM so that's what I am running. There are people that love sense and there are ROMs out there for that. A better thread for you would have been things you are looking for and we could suggest the best ROM suited for your needs.

is it me or has rom production almost come to a halt. i mean with GB ready to go whats the deal? or are all the devs working on HC and done with GB

xspeed9190 said:
is it me or has rom production almost come to a halt. i mean with GB ready to go whats the deal? or are all the devs working on HC and done with GB
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Nope TeamRoyal has an aosp gingerbread rom in the works and maybe even a froyo. Lol.
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mike21pr said:
IMO Its all about preference. You gotta ask yourself if y like stock android or sense (among other overlays)
Personally. I havent experienced a rom smoother than Ice Glacier yet. I was surprised since CM7 was less than half the size but smoothness was way behind Ice. IMO Sense roms are more optimized for our chipsets since thats what HTC works on most so im Sense all the way
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Well as you know Sense based rom specially IG is not actually full rom as it just modified and comparing to current CM7(AOSP2.3.X:GB) its 1/3rd of the port size. But as IG heavily depends on Sense based framework it will be little smoother but you can make CM7 smooth also IDK what people talking about it lags as if I even run at 368mhz(max)/245(min)/ondemand (gov) I get NO lag.
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is it me or has rom production almost come to a halt. i mean with GB ready to go whats the deal? or are all the devs working on HC and done with GB
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Thats the beauty of AOSP and we are thankful so who cares what Google is doing maybe by next year HTC will port Sense based on 2.3 and we just got AOSP2.3.3 port last night on CM7NB11.

my fave so far is jaywans nexus s gingerbread rom. it's pretty smooth and everything works. I wanted to try his thunderbolt port but I kinda got tired of sense

is CM7NB11 in rom manager??

carlos2384 said:
is CM7NB11 in rom manager??
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Not sure what you mean by that.
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carlos2384 said:
is CM7NB11 in rom manager??
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Last I heard the CM updater for Rom Manager Premium wasnt updating for some reason but it could be fixed by now. That was yesterday. Unfortunatly I only have the free version and it only allows for DL of CM7 RC1 so i cant confirm if the other is working again.

Lol that's what he was talking about? How hard is it to grab the current build from CM repository, it takes just 1 sec. I have cURL.d setup on my server it grabs it automatically within 1min as I set the eCrawler auto updated every min.
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carlos2384 said:
my fave so far is jaywans nexus s gingerbread rom. it's pretty smooth and everything works. I wanted to try his thunderbolt port but I kinda got tired of sense
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I just finished an update for it taking it from 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 is fast smooth and great on battery. I sent it to royal night so he can put his touches on it so i will be ready real soon.

Really depends on how you want to style your phone. Do you like Sense? Do you want a vanilla flavored rom?
I love CM7.

carlos2384 said:
my fave so far is jaywans nexus s gingerbread rom. it's pretty smooth and everything works. I wanted to try his thunderbolt port but I kinda got tired of sense
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Jaywan said:
I just finished an update for it taking it from 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 is fast smooth and great on battery. I sent it to royal night so he can put his touches on it so i will be ready real soon.
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+1 / with carlos2384 ... Jaywan's Nexus S is hands down my favorite ROM so far on this device. Jaywan - udaman! I'm pumped about v2.2 for Nexus S !!
...I did just flash the new Liquid Metal port (RoyalLiquid) and it's quiiiiiite interesting and unique....since it appears it's froyo based, I'm not sure it's gonna steal my heart long term from the Nexus S ROM but at least for now, it's REALLY nice to have options!! (especially when they're as cool as this)
Thanks again Jaywan, Royalknight6190, and TeamRoyal !

I am currently trying ThunderBolt. I like it. I came from Iced which was giving me all sorts of funny business.

BlackSHELF said:
Lol that's what he was talking about? How hard is it to grab the current build from CM repository, it takes just 1 sec. I have cURL.d setup on my server it grabs it automatically within 1min as I set the eCrawler auto updated every min.
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Im currently testing out another phone for a friend and I dont have my mt4g to check it out... thanks tho...