New archos 70b it2 (honeycomb) owner and questions - Gen8 General

Hi all newcomer here ...congrats for your forum.
I received yesterday my archos 70b it2 honeycomb 3.2 tablet (yep the new 70b internet tablet ...1.2 ghz //512 ram and so on)...so if you have any questions that i can answer do post. Keep in mind although im tech shavvy this is my first android device so im not an expert. Ill try to do my best though.
I have a couple of questions for you. (keep in mind i got latest firm)
a) It seems (to my dissapointment) that the unit CANT handle youtube HD clips. I do have flash player installed and using the built in youtube app. Only way to watch youtube clips is without using hd. Is there something wrong im doing? Im finding strange that it can play 720p mkv but not youtube hd clips that are much less processor hungry.
b) When i connect the device to my pc although it seems to mount ...navigation to its folder and copying movies...its just impossible...slow-sluggish and the copy just never starts. (tried to copy an avi in videos folders ...takes forever). Is there something im doing wrong here? (usb debug is off btw). Maybe because it had low battery and i connected the usb cable to do the transfer?
Anyway in general for 199euros its not a bad tablet...screen is ok (not an ips so viewing angles arent the best) and seems solid built.
Thank you for any help (this same post is in archosfans forum)

Hmm 100+ views and none knows? Maybe i posted in wrong forum ?

Archos 70b IT
Hello, sorry you haven't gotten a reply yet...I am in America (North Carolina) and am waiting for Archos to start selling these tablets. I have the money set aside and just need somewhere to just start selling them...I stopped at HHGregg today and they didn't know what I was talking about...(they really didn't put a lot of effort in making me believe they knew what they were talking about)...anywayz...
I have no idea of problems you are having or the fix for your issues...I was just going to ask how the tablet is overall...like the screen for instance...does the screen seem as though it will be easily scratched or is it nice wipe away glass like a kindle fire? Any other info you can add would be great, it would be nice if you'd post a review of your thoughts since you've had it for over 24 hours now .
Thanks for the post, it's hard to get information for these things here...it is on their website, just not for sale there yet...
-Gig4 <><

The problem is probably in your statement - low battery, You should fully charge the battery before doing anything !
Also, the lack of replies may be due to the fact that hardly anybody has one of these devices yet.

Update
The problem with mounting was solved but doing a factory reset.(maybe the battery low was the problem)
@gig4
Screen is ok. Its not ips so the viewing angles are a bit limited but other than that i would say the screen res is fine. Colors are ok too.
The screen is a fingerprint magnet and im not sure that it would be hard enough too resist scratches. Depends on how you use the tablet i guess but i wouldnt throw it on a backpack if you asking that.
Some problems i have found.
a) Youtube hd = a big NO ...i dont know if this is a problem of honeycomb or the tablet isnt strong enough but...it just doesnt play. My net connection isnt the best but i can stream and view even 1080p at my desktop so i presume it has nothing to do with it. Wifi seems stable hadnt have any disconects. (wpa2)
b) Hdmi out...it connects to the tv but as soon i get it of the tv the tablet needs a hard reset ...(displays a white screen and cant do nothing) ...again im not sure if im doing something wrong BUT there is NO mirroring in tablet and tv...i just see the ui in the tv and tablet responds to my inputs BUT i dont see anything on it.
c) It doesnt charge to 100% ...left it overnight but went only to 99%.
d) Battery is decent...about 5-6 hours surfing / watching movies...
e) Web browsing is hit and miss again...tried 3 different browsers (dolphin hd/opera mini/stock browser) ...some sites work ...some sites doesnt load at all or just freeze...i dont know im really disapointed with android (got an iphone 4 and besides the non working flash i have zero problems surfing).
Overall the tablet is ok in specs but in real world perfomance...im not happy.
Again keep in mind this is my first android device but i would call my self quick learner...
PS flash was installed in all my tests.

The reason that Youtube HD (Flash) does not work is that Flash on Gen8 devices relies solely on the CPU and is not designed specifically for Gen8's, unlike Archos' Video application which uses the DSP (and possibly other components) to do hardware acceleration.
If you want to watch HD quality videos from Youtube on your 70b, I would suggest an application that allows you to download the video file and use Archos' Video application. The app I use for this purpose is Tubemate:
devian7.iisweb.co.kr/download.jsp
(You will have to copy and paste the link in your browser.)
The link is to the developers webpage and offers an apk download so the Android Market is not necessary.
The Gen8's can handle any of the different formats that can be downloaded with Tubemate, with the exception of 1080p.
In regards to the HDMI out:
If the 70b works like the older Gen8's, then the displays do not mirror each other. The external display shows the UI and the tablet acts as a giant (laptop-like) touchpad.
In regards to the browser:
With my Gen8 101, the stock browser works well if plugins is set to on demand and if I am not opening too many tabs/windows that have a lot of pictures (high RAM usage). Other browsers should function well if set to the same settings (Dolphin HD worked about the same when I used to use it).
Also battery life should be better with the plugins set to on demand.
In regards to the battery:
I assume that the reason it doesn't charge to "100%" is due to the firmware. Older Gen8's would charge to "100%" on older firmware versions, while the same devices on newer firmware only charges to "99%". From what I have read, the difference is irrelevant because the difference only shows up when it is charging. i.e. It says it is charged to "99%" while plugged in, but when unplugged it shows a "100%" charge.

thanks...I appreciate the reply.

And for the browser, this most of the time comes from the stupid f... that has done the webpage.
If you don't change the Useragent in your browser, the Website knows that you come from an Android browser.
As most ignorant Webdevs still have no clue that there is someone else then IE,FF or IPhone they sometimes do strange things.
Try to set the Useragent to either Desktop or IPhone and see the changes.

i have this tablet
it is very good for the transport in paris
it is better that the 70 it
i have no problem with HDMi

I'll ask the question again.
Does anyone know if the data transmission speed of wifi radio in the new 70b IT has also been knee capped at a very low 54 megabytes/sec utilizing 802.11n protocol, like all the other Archos Gen 8 devices?
Given that the processor achitecture of the 70 IT and 70b IT are apparently the same (single core ARM Cortex A8), when will Archos push Honeycomb out to the Gen 8 devices?
Also it has been suggested that the new 70b IT OS will be updated to ICS in February. Will the Gen 8 devices get this. And if not, why not?

See that
http://www.jbmm.fr/2012/01/archos70bit-chiffres-tests/
for ICS on this model 70b ? perhaps....

I don't believe the wifi has been ' kneecapped' or nobbled in any way - 54 mbps is the maximum speed for the hardware, it uses wireless n standards and is compatable with wireless n, it is not dual band and only operates at 2.4 ghz, the higher speed of wireless n are obtained using 5.0ghz band, this is my understanding of it, and as you point out that the 2 devices share the same hardware, It's safe to assume the speed will be the same, it certainly seems to be the same on both of mine, but my 70b is a froyo device so can't definitively speak for the 'honeycomb' version.
As the early release 70b, 512mb ram, higher res screen etc... is not getting the honeycomb update due to incompatability, I think it's safe to say the 70IT will definitely not get it, as for ICS - I have seen no such indication from any credible source that this is likely, unless you are refering to dev roms, in which case there are already both 'honeycomb' and 'ICS' roms in the works

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A few Questions Regarding the Iconia

Hi, ive decided to get the iconia over the transformer, but i would like to ask a few questions.
1. What is the max amount of points the iconia supports for multitouch, and how smooth is pinch to zoom in the browser and other apps.
2. Does the iconia have a microphone.
3. How are the viewing angles and screen clarity.
4. Does it have a gyroscope
10 all your fingers
yes ,although i doesnt find it,i can ues to record.
i dont know .it is good enough for me ,so i dont care the number .
yes ,it has.
Okay thank you the main concerns was the microphone, can it be used for video chat. Also many of the problems people say they have with the iconia is it software related?
EDIT: I read about a problem where the screen keeps coming on and off by itself, has this been fixed or is it still there and the problem with wifi disconnecting is that still happening or has that been fixed.
the mic is ok .
i use qq,a chat software which is widely used in china.
mic and camera work well.
i dont test mic with msn or skype.
in china , we dont use msn in daily.
but ,if it can be used with qq,i guess it will work with msn or other chat software.
Hi yeah i edited the post above could you answer those questions?
M..N said:
Hi, ive decided to get the iconia over the transformer, but i would like to ask a few questions.
1. What is the max amount of points the iconia supports for multitouch, and how smooth is pinch to zoom in the browser and other apps.
2. Does the iconia have a microphone.
3. How are the viewing angles and screen clarity.
4. Does it have a gyroscope
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I, too was worried about the problems people seem to be having..
I bought a 32G A500, and the GPS works perfectly.
Wifi is a little sensitive to distance from router, but that might be my router..
To answer your questions:
Dunno - it does pinch zoom and expand perfectly though.
Clear, very clear and sharp. I can read the screen at such an angle it almost horizontal.
It has hardware compass, mine seems to be pretty accurate.
Microphone - dunno where it is, but it records for voice input quite well (although you look a right tit talking to your tablet!)
I suspect maybe a bad batch got out (especially the GPS units, maybe wifi antenna is a bit loses in some). You don't know what people have done to their tab before they start to whine about problems (failed root? deleted apps?)
What I don't like about it?
Full of apps (facebook crap, twittery crap) I'll never use, yet am worried about deleting them in case an update fails and it's bricked - this should have been release with full customisation!
No file manager from start-up - I had to go find some silly ad supported thing to install my backup file manager off the mSD card.
Some apps do't work (copilot dies all the time, NDrive is TINY!!!)
Fluffbutt said:
I, too was worried about the problems people seem to be having..
I bought a 32G A500, and the GPS works perfectly.
Wifi is a little sensitive to distance from router, but that might be my router..
To answer your questions:
Dunno - it does pinch zoom and expand perfectly though.
Clear, very clear and sharp. I can read the screen at such an angle it almost horizontal.
It has hardware compass, mine seems to be pretty accurate.
Microphone - dunno where it is, but it records for voice input quite well (although you look a right tit talking to your tablet!)
I suspect maybe a bad batch got out (especially the GPS units, maybe wifi antenna is a bit loses in some). You don't know what people have done to their tab before they start to whine about problems (failed root? deleted apps?)
What I don't like about it?
Full of apps (facebook crap, twittery crap) I'll never use, yet am worried about deleting them in case an update fails and it's bricked - this should have been release with full customisation!
No file manager from start-up - I had to go find some silly ad supported thing to install my backup file manager off the mSD card.
Some apps do't work (copilot dies all the time, NDrive is TINY!!!)
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Hi thanks for the response and the problem with the screen turning on and off by itself is that fixed. Also how well do games play on it, and the camera quality when video calling how good is it?
I've not (yet) had the turning on/off thing.
Games play very well on it, smooth and crips.
EG: N64oid was almost unplayable on my previous tab, this plays it like BUTTER.
(Nenamark test of old tab was 16.7 fps, this tab is 37.7 fpds)
I don't do video calling. Rear camera is nice, good pix in low light (flash), nice pix in daylight. No tried front cam yet, not needed to.
(I have specific ideas of what I want a video app to do, and until i find one I won't use one. It basically need to do what the Logitech VID system does for PC, including allow tablet to PC video chat)
Questions and Answers A500
I've had mine for a couple of weeks and I'm really loving it...
I've done video chat with both Google Talk and Skype with many friends and many of them commented how clear my video was, sound was a tiny bit muddy to start, but with some tweaks, got it sussed out.
If you get root, get a program called Adfree which downloads a database of ad servers and keeps ads from running on your android.
On / Off issues still exists for a number of users. I've experienced it on a few occasions, mostly when I've let the unit go to sleep - not turned off. There is another thread that seems to think it's a wifi wakeup / router call issue and will probably be fully addressed when 3.1 rolls out later this month.
If you have any more questions ask away!
wifi works well ,at least on my device,build 135.
some people say wifi works better with build 141,a little update.
so i think it is fixed.
screen off/on ,it is not very often .
but ,i dont know wether it is fixed or not.
i dont notice it.
Okay I have another question how much free space for apps installation is there?
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You can use all your memory for apps on the Iconia (27 gigabyte for me atleast).
abats said:
You can use all your memory for apps on the Iconia (27 gigabyte for me atleast).
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Okay that's fine, just wanted to know because I guess its different to phones
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
M..N said:
EDIT: I read about a problem where the screen keeps coming on and off by itself, has this been fixed or is it still there and the problem with wifi disconnecting is that still happening or has that been fixed.
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I've had mine just over a week and noticed the screen on/off thing for the first time today. The only 'new' thing I have done was connect it to my Ubuntu laptop via the micro USB. This caused USB debugging to activate which I also saw for the first time today.

Thinking about getting a Nook Color, have some questions first.

As many of you have likely already seen, the Nook Color is available for 179.99 today only (factory refurbished) at http://1saleaday.com/
I've been looking into getting a tablet lately, mostly for play - things like games, reading, and netflix. It seems like the Nook is a great "bang for the buck", and the devs have done some amazing work on it. I have a few questions before I take the dive though...
1. Battery Life.
How is the battery life while watching Netflix? While watching a movie on the SD-Card (let's assume 720P encoding). I notice that the Nook is rated at 8-10 hours with WiFi off, does that mean Wifi kills the battery, or just shaves off an hour or two?
2. Speed.
I understand that the Nook wasn't supposed to be a full fledged tablet, but the Devs have gotten some great ROMs for it that make it so. How is the speed? I want to make sure I'd use the tab over my phone when I'm at home, but my phone is actually quite fast (Atrix 4G, rooted, unlocked, running Alien2 with the OC kernel). Videos of the Nook with CM7 making it look very smooth with everything which is a huge plus (MotoBlur sucks, all animations on my phone are clunky... waiting for CM7 which is in alpha right now).
3. Gaming
I use my phone for moderate gaming, but it kinda sucks. I think that this will be my main focus on the Nook. Using emulators on my Atrix is a lesson a patience... The touch screen times out after 30 seconds of a finger being on the screen, so in games where you have to hold buttons a while, the screen becomes non-responsive. Because my phone's screen is small, it also makes playing a lot of emulators difficult as the buttons are on the screen itself. How do emulators run on the Nook? It looks like games from the market run just fine, which is great.
4. Shared Google account
My google account is tied into my phone right now, if I use the same account on the Nook, will I be able to install all of the same apps / games off of the market automatically?
5. Text Messaging
The Nook is Wifi only, so I know that Gtalk will work. What about SMS style messaging? Is there an app (or native in a ROM) ability to send / recieve text messages from the Nook while its on? This would make it so that I don't have to switch between devices at home in order to play games / watch a movie / whatever and talk to my phones.
Lastly.. what do you use your Tablet for? I know that I will play with this thing non-stop for a while, since its a new "toy". But other than running "old school" console games for a while (and Heroes of Might and Magic), I'm not sure what else I'd use the Tablet for considering that I own a very high end PC for gaming / programming, a MacBook Pro which sits on the coffee table in the TV room, an XboX for netflix streaming to the TV, and my much loved Atrix. I know that the tablet will be awesome while I'm playing with it and flashing ROMs, but from the experience of others... is it a passing fad for fun, or do you get a ton of use out of your tablet? If so, what do you use it for?
Any comments / questions are greatly appreciated. I've been looking into this for a few days, but now I'm on a time limit to buy the Nook on sale today, or wait for the next sale of a tablet.
DK
1) Battery life is amazing with the newer releases of CM7. I'm running 7.1 RC and left the wifi on when I finished charging it. After 24 hours in sleep I was only down 5%. After an hour use to update apps, browse online, etc, I was only down a few more percent.
2) Speed is great and just seems to get better with releases. Most people clock theirs to 1200 or 1300 (stock is 800) and run it daily like that. There is a lot of room to adjust for what you need/want.
3) I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but running something like Pocket Legends isn't a problem. I know some people are able to get Honeycomb only games running without problems. I think some require Tegra 2, so it shows how well this little thing performs.
4) Yes google account is shared. You purchase an app for your account and you can download it to both devices. The new market is device aware, so you may be able to purcahse and download to your phone, but not the Nook (if, for example, the app requires GPS), but there are ways around this.
5) I know SMS can be done, but I've never done it. Can't help here.
I love this little thing. For the price I don't see how you can pass it up. I use it for a little of everything: media, web, email. Probably the most use for me is having a nice little device to carry around documentation for work when I need to reference it.
If you have the money, thought about getting a tablet, and can do without camera, cell connection, it is definitely a great device to have.
I already have a NC but I went ahead an ordered one for the wife. She is a little jealous of mine so I figured why not for the price.
I use google voice to sms (can't call though without network), if you don't have a google voice account already, you can set it up, and connect it to your own phone number.

stock transformer now almost perfect?

the 8.6.5.9 update answered my few remaining OS niggles -- most importantly ad-hoc wifi tethering -- and with the wider availability of accessories (like a spare charging cable), i think i'm finally happy.
it also helps that i discovered "native" display mode on my toshiba tv so that the hdmi input from the TF is no longer clipped.
youtube HD plays beautifully (except in opera altho. i'm sure an update there is imminent) and i can c&p in polaris.
my tf is stable. very few crashes.
no need to root at all.
what's not to like now?
I agree, not many grumbles here at all either
If there was a way to block ads without rooting it would be perfect
That reminds me, I was going to take a look at my router, Im sure it has URL blocking in the settings, I might try adding the AdFree HOSTS list into there
At home, i am using peixelserv to block ads in my dd-WRT router for wifi conections.
Truely, i am still lookig for resons to root my TF.
Specially when netflix also works now, although the quality of movie is too bad, looks like it thinks tf is a phone and streams in low resolution.
I dont have any problem with my dock.
I want my tf to connect to serial port of my sun sparc servers using usb to serial cable. I dont know which software to use. I think it needs usb otg support which i guess honeycomb already has. This is the only reason i might do the root if it needs some hack.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
theabsurdman said:
it also helps that i discovered "native" display mode on my toshiba tv so that the hdmi input from the TF is no longer clipped.
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Good point there...on Samsung TV's it's called Picture Size and you need to set it to "Just Scan" mode to show everything rather than 16:9 mode. Other manufacturers will have different but similar modes to adjust the display to show the TF output as it should.
8.6.5.9 WW rooted is perfect for me. I'm well happy with the tablets performance and features. Although I wouldn't say no to some ICS Android 4.0 love
I have to add myself to this list...with Netflix working (the pixilation only lasts for about 20 seconds, then the picture is crystal clear) and ad-hoc wifi working, and copy and paste working in Polaris....
I'm not rooted for the first time since owning it!...
Well tunneling over ssh if you are on a hotspot does afaik not work if you don't root the device.
+ You can't set any network routes. Or use a http proxy for applications.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
I agree, my TF is not rooted, and loving the Transformer more than ever.
It runs really smoothly now, homescreen transitions are perfect, the stock browser
is amazing, it hasn't crashed in weeks and its blisteringly quick. It becomes more and
more useful every day with some fantastic apps being developed for honeycomb now.
Even with a bit of battery drain on my B40 dock I'm really pleased with my Tablet.
Well done Asus
Right now the only thing that bothers me is not being able to open CBRs in file manager or over network like I can with video and mp3s.
its annoying to have such a high sensitivity touchpad...I have accidently overwritten already written notes in many application like Evernote etc many time, none of them have an undo option so i cant remediate. rooting will not help me on this one unless someone comes up with a hack to reduce the sensitivity.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Still needs better proxy handling. No Authenticated proxies (hit and miss with http)... Only way I can see to do this is with apps like proxy droid that require root. This will be the biggie for corporate and some school adoption (not only transformer missing this, android in general).
Almost perfect but the default browser still sucks,still getting the block while scrolling. I dont think Asus will ever fix the lag on the browser.
dazz87 said:
Almost perfect but the default browser still sucks,still getting the block while scrolling. I dont think Asus will ever fix the lag on the browser.
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Should include the stock browser in criticism as it's not an Asus developed item
I use Opera mobile it works great.
And I have the touchpad disabled at all times. You can't type if it is enabled.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
the asus transformer is an awsome device ever since i got it turn my monster computer on less and less. only 1 small gripe i have is that the internet button on the keyboard is not configurable
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I am also very happy with the stock image. Unless there is some killer app out there that needs rooting, I do not envision rooting this device.
BTW, talk about browser lag. The text box froze for 20 seconds while entering the last part of the sentence above. This was in FF 6.0 on my quad core Windows 7 system with 16 GB of memory. The activity bar at the bottom shows that as you type the services on the sites "ad.., yieldmanager.com, ..." are being accessed. Perhaps the messages are being scanned as entered for ad keywords to serve up to you.
jerrykur said:
I am also very happy with the stock image. Unless there is some killer app out there that needs rooting, I do not envision rooting this device.
BTW, talk about browser lag. The text box froze for 20 seconds while entering the last part of the sentence above. This was in FF 6.0 on my quad core Windows 7 system with 16 GB of memory. The activity bar at the bottom shows that as you type the services on the sites "ad.., yieldmanager.com, ..." are being accessed. Perhaps the messages are being scanned as entered for ad keywords to serve up to you.
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I noticed that also. Unless I use an "ad blocker" my PC and my TF lag on XDA. When I use an adblocker on both....both work just fine with no lag.
rpavich said:
I noticed that also. Unless I use an "ad blocker" my PC and my TF lag on XDA. When I use an adblocker on both....both work just fine with no lag.
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What ad blocker are you using on the TF?
The firmware is coming right along and getting Netflix is a big help. Unfortunately the lackluster build quality makes me pretty unhappy, and that's not something that can be fixed with a firmware update. I'm a little bummed right now because after having to exchange the dock for the battery drain power, I had to RMA the tablet today because of a power button that no longer works. Considering that I don't use this tablet very much (maybe for an hour a week tops) this seems like a lot of breakage for a brand new item. I really wish they had charged more for these tablets and spent the money on higher quality materials.
I have to say for the first couple of weeks I had a HUGE issue with the touchpad while typing. But in the end it would be what I would call an issue between the chair and the computer... Turn the touchpad off while typing! I email and type a lot and with it in the way during that time it was killing me. We have touch screen dammit!!!!!
Love this device...
808

[Q] Worth buying one of these?

A couple questions before I splurge, teh Nook's been looking really tempting at it's current price point. I'm talking about once it's rooted and presumably running something stable (CM7 most probably).
a) How's the browser? Is Flash reliable, and overall is it good enough to check some e-mails and open five or six tabs of desktop versions of sites?
b) Battery life? Any stats and comparisons?
c) How's video playback? Does RockPlayer or such work and does it play XviD/H.264 files at their own framerate? HD isn't required, but would be nice.
d) Any drawbacks I should know about?
e) Is having no soft/hard keys for Android functions a detriment to the usability?
Thanks for any help and suggestions guys. Looking to buy me one of these if feedback's good.
here are some answer:
a) browser will be the same that your nexus one. But i use Opera mobile wich is smooth, can open lot of tabs (yesterday i had 8), flash work.
b) battery life: it get better, just cut wifi when you know it will iddle (when you sleep or go to work). I don't shut if off and it stand about 3 or 4 day (using it for web, mail). Watching an 20 minutes show drop around 8-10% battery. (using mx player soft decode, hw decode don't work )
c) mx player is great (better ui than mobo, i just switch!) don't use hd file, last time i tried it doesnt work..
d) no stable honeycomb, so no app using fragment ui (gmail for honeycomb)
e) you can try tablet tweak on your cyanogen's nexus one. bottom status bar + button in status bar work like HC!
pro: i like the rugger back the nook, no shiny plastic with lot of fingerprint!
onclebob pretty much answered everything. I'm a fan of the Dolphin HD browser which also handles flash, multiple tabs, etc. There was a deep sleep issue a while back but it's been fixed. I can routinely get a week or more out of a full charge with minimal use. Of course, YMMV. With tablet tweaks, there's really not a problem with missing the dedicated hardware keys. It uses the honeycomb-style soft keys. The nook 'n' key can be used as home, etc. I honestly can't think of any unsuspected drawbacks -- performance is great (at least with overclocking which is built-in to the nightlies) -- speaking of which, if/when you get one, the CM7 nightlies are the way to go -- very stable on the NC. Bluetooth and usb host mode are available. I will say the speakers do not get very loud, so that could be a factor. The other things are "known"... ie. 7" screen (although a very good one), no 3g/4g, etc.
Plus, for what it's worth, the community here is pretty awesome, which hopefully says a lot.
D's ) The SD card is very hard to insert or eject
The whole thing creaks and pops; poorly fitting/fixed components
Blink the wrong way and the USB cable will shatter into fragments
Still awesome though
I'm selling my Nook Color if you're interested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240181

Video playback on Remix - extremely choppy please help before I go insane!

I posted a thread up a while ago about playback being poor on Remix with 50Hz content (mods please delete that thread thank you), but it seems following a recent fresh install that all video playback is absolutely terrible no matter how I approach it.
I use an external WD 2Tb drive which connects via Stickmount. This is working fine for roms and also on other units (Ouya, Rpi2 etc). It's a mains powered drive and I plug it directly into the USB 2 slot and then into the wall so it doesn't use the MOJO's power. My telly admittedly isn't the best - it's an old Samsung 32" HD Ready thing that usually only goes to 720p (but will detect and utilise 1080p as evidenced by my Ouya) but it has never displayed this issue before. Ouya playback wasn't amazing, but it was way better than I'm experiencing here.
No matter what media player I use, be it Kodi, SPMC, MX Player, VLC or even directly from the gallery, all playback from local files on the drive (mp4, MKV, avi, divx and so on) is extremely choppy. Frames seem to be dropping, jumping and lagging, making video viewing unbearable. At first I thought it was the media player, but no matter what I settings I adjust the video will stutter. I've tried my own recommended settings, and many different types of combinations but nothing stops it. Believe me, I've spent hours at this! I've even tried changing out the HDMI cable for something better but it's made no difference.
So now I'm pretty confident this is happening at system level and cannot be addressed in the player's settings. There must be a setting somewhere that needs to be addressed to enable better video playback. Please please help me, I am going insane. Or could it be the TV and I should buy a proper HD set?
Either way, help me end this madness please!
Too late to get help before you go insane--you're addicted to Androids.
Do you have the same problem streaming from the internet? That would tell us if it's an input or output problem. Also, don't let's overlook the obvious--are you plugging in the HDD into the USB3 port or the USB2? Have you tried copying a file to a good fast microSD card and playing it from there? (the Samsung EVOs recently dropped in price dramatically). And it might be worth trying out CM12.1 again too. Maybe even trying a different USB cable to the HDD. But you didn't have this problem before you reinstalled RemixOS, did you? I'm rambling but I want to get as many ideas out before my short-term memory loss kicks in. But I would think the MOJO has plenty of horsepower on any Lollipop ROM to play videos at 1080p. Resource hog running in the background? Did you try a task killer?
kevinthefixer said:
Too late to get help before you go insane--you're addicted to Androids.
Do you have the same problem streaming from the internet? That would tell us if it's an input or output problem. Also, don't let's overlook the obvious--are you plugging in the HDD into the USB3 port or the USB2? Have you tried copying a file to a good fast microSD card and playing it from there? (the Samsung EVOs recently dropped in price dramatically). And it might be worth trying out CM12.1 again too. Maybe even trying a different USB cable to the HDD. But you didn't have this problem before you reinstalled RemixOS, did you? I'm rambling but I want to get as many ideas out before my short-term memory loss kicks in. But I would think the MOJO has plenty of horsepower on any Lollipop ROM to play videos at 1080p. Resource hog running in the background? Did you try a task killer?
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Thanks for your detailed reply!
1. Playing video via the YouTube app looks fine.
2. The HDD is plugged in via USB2. The CTRLR dongle is in the USB3 slot.
3. Haven't tried playing a file via SD Card. I have a good Sandisk one somewhere and will give it a go. Good idea.
4. Will certainly try a newer USB cable as I do like to eliminate the obvious and easy solutions first where possible. But no, I did not have this issue with the Rpi or the Ouya.
5. I will try a task killer but like you I don't think this is the issue. Going into Remix settings there doesn't seem to be anything reported as taking up a lot of memory.
Two things I have tried since posting. First was playing the same files with OSMC on Rpi2, and second was changing the HQ scaling on the MOJO in SPMC. On OSMC I notice I do seem to have a duff file, one in particular that first got me worried, but I was still getting some judder with other files. As for HQ scaling, my Google Fu reveals the usual recommended setting is 20% rather than the default 0%. But after playing with it, I've put it right up to 70% and this seriously seems to have helped. I'll keep playing and see how it works across different files. It's such a shame that Android doesn't switch the display mode like Linux does on demand.
I don't think it's the fault of Remix any more tbh. I'm pretty sure I can get this right. But there's a lot of trial and error and I have a lot of varying content to cater for. However if all else fails I will indeed give CM 12.1 another go. Unless there's going to be a CM 13 soon....
Again, thanks for your help.
I think first I'd try swapping the dongle and the HDD, see if the USB3 port does it. Next another USB cable, is the HDD USB3 compliant? If so make sure the cable is also.
I wouldn't count on any more development happening for the MOJO. Aside from Mad Catz, there has been only one developer working on it, and I haven't seen any posts from him lately. CM makes it as easy as humanly possible to port their ROM to any given machine, and they publish a guide for it, so next time I have a few months off I might try to aquire that skill. But don't hold your breath.
The HDD is USB2 only. I'm going to try a shorter cable I think, if I can find one in my cupboard, but I'm hoping I've fixed it in the settings for now. I hope so anyway as I really like Remix OS and don't want to change.
No, I don't have any expectation of any further development really. I just remember UJD talking about the possibility of CM13 but that was some time ago. To be honest though if there was never another made for the MOJO, it wouldn't upset me very much. We already have three or four brilliant options on 5.1.1 that are a huge step up from the stock rom. I consider myself very spoilt for choice.
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The HDD is USB2 only. I'm going to try a shorter cable I think, if I can find one in my cupboard, but I'm hoping I've fixed it in the settings for now. I hope so anyway as I really like Remix OS and don't want to change.
No, I don't have any expectation of any further development really. I just remember UJD talking about the possibility of CM13 but that was some time ago. To be honest though if there was never another made for the MOJO, it wouldn't upset me very much. We already have three or four brilliant options on 5.1.1 that are a huge step up from the stock rom. I consider myself very spoilt for choice.
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Ya, I feel exactly the same way. FWIW I also feel that way about my Asus TFs; I now have marshmallow ROMs for TF300 and TF700, and the performance from 3 and 4-yr-old tablets is amazing.

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