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Let's face it: HD2 has many problems.

No need to hide. This phone has many problems, still many people seems to ignore them completely. No need to start the "It's your phone, it's strange, I use it a lot and it never happens" saga. The problems are there. And for everyone. The fact you don't notice some bad behaviours doesn't mean the phone is perfect or that your baby is exempt from problems. Let's start:
1) Suboptimal WI-FI performance. On a 802.11g wireless network, connected to an 8Mbps internet connection, the phone can't even saturate the badwidth of the network. Speedtest.net reports an approximate 2Mbps download capacity (EDIT for those who cannot distinguish: 2 megabits, not megabytes). Test it yourself: try to download something from a fast website and try to figure out which is your maximum download transfer speed. You will be disappointed. As a comparative, this means the phone can use 1/4 of the available bandwidth. A SonyEricsson Satio can fully use the available bandwidth, instead (someone told me "tell me a phone that can do it. Now you have one).
2) Stanby freeze: it's there. The phone freezes randomly while in stanby draining all your battery juice. Sometimes happens rarely, sometimes happens frequently.
3) Poor memory space handling: after just 20 days of use from a fresh ROM update, my free memory space on ROM is just 36MB. Without installing big things or hacking anything. Sure, there are fixes produced by the community, log cleaners, temp files deletion utilities, etc. etc. Still, it's a quite a disappointement: it means this phone can't work properly in a "factory state" for much time.
4) "Always on" features: nice, apart the fact in random periods of time the services just stop to download data. The Twitter client doesn't work well. Sometimes you can hear a tweet sound, sometimes it downloads data without the sound, sometimes it downloads nothing until reboot.
5) Poor stability in general: the OS crashes frequently. Less frequently than the first shipped rom. Still it's not very stable.
6) Poor support in general with the updates: finally the SMS stuck problem has been fixed but they spent 3 months for it without a valid solution. The camera fix doesn't hide the fact the sensor is defective.
I don't say this to start a flame, of course, but only because I'm frustrated with these problems. And people, instead of spreading words about them, just pump the hype, including some notorious web sites that have no scope but pushing the hype even further. But the truth is another: this phone doesn't work as expected.

I honestly do not have the problems you're describing..
Your "truth" is very different from mine, but ne1 is allowed to have no

Can't comment on all those, but i hear you, defo had some of them and i'm on my 2nd unit after 2 weeks.
With Nokia it took them at least 6 months to iron out the flaws in their released phones, defo the case with N95 & N96, i didn't expect it to be the case on this phone.
SMS fix? is it? or only in 1.66, because the hotfix's don't work on the 1.44 ROM
I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list

well, I don't pretend mine is perfect but there are more things to love than to hate about it. regarding the problems, I think you cannot generalize because I've never experienced some of your issues but I'm bothered by other myself. finally I guess it's just a subjective call anyway...

I had some of your problems when my HD2 was on the original 1.48 WWE Hong Kong ROM. However, since I flashed HSPL, Merlion LEO V1.90 ROM and Radio version 2.07.50.27_2, it's been faster and absolutely stable. No more freezing/"Sleep of Death"/etc...

jonbaker76 said:
I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list
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That one really annoys me too. Still can't find a way to get video and audio in sync without manually adjusting the offset whilst encoding. And HTC still can't get the hang of getting Audiomanager to handle AAC files properly (ie sort albums in track order, or show.their album art). Still, it's a lot quicker than my Touch Pro was ; )

Yeap! I'm very happy that I could be refunded. Too many bugs for such a device.

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If you want something that works out the box, get an iPhone

I have none of your issues and i can prove it with tests and videos.
I wish i had an "unlike" button to use it here. You are frustrated because either you don't know how to work with this phone or you have some bad software or even a bad phone. Replace it!
You are emitting false statements here!
PS: I have the phone for 2 months.

I'd love to see a phone or device that was perfect.
Every piece of hardware has its own problems.

I've been waiting for so long for someone to start a thread entitled as "Let's face it: HD2 has many problems". Eagerly watching this thread for some positive and negative input.
All in all, HTC Sense is at it infant stage. This "is" the culprit. Perhaps by end of this year, we will worship it someday...
To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.

1. have to say the WiFi (at work) is slow (2.2Mbps) but speedtest.net is SO unreliable I'll hold off commenting until I try at home tonight on my O2 LLU connection.
2. never had it
3. doesn't happen to me, currently got 107MB free of storage and 266MB of program memory free
4. other than Twitter client being a bit crap it's fine
5. mine doesn't crash
6. updates are fine but I've not had any of the issues others have had in the first place, less so now running a custom ROM

Return your phone and get an iphone/android device.
This kind of issues, even if I haven't myself had most of those you list, have been around with EVERY WM phone that has been made.
Of course WM is far from perfect, but as someone already said to me the advantages far outweigh them, and I can live with them and the need for tweaking.
1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
2) Never had one.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
etc...

dgtel2 said:
To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.
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Sense is fine, but the vanilla Win6.5 fails hard.
And if this thread gets to about page 5, it would probably just turn into another Leo vs iPhone flame war.

For the WiFi "problem": ~ 2 MByte /s is just the normal average speed, even with my laptop I won't get much more on 802.11g .. It also depends on with how many other devices you share your WiFi-channel.

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Sense is fine, but the manilla Win6.5 fails hard.
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What is manila win6.5?!?! Do you even know what manila is? manila = sense!!!

I think there are a lot of 'duff' units, this must be the case with the 'sleep of death' and the crackley call as many of had it but most don't.
I took mine back, got a new one yesterday, no crackles no sleep of death... yet
But true, there are always gonna be problems, it will take months before a near perfect firmware, sorry, rom is out

Thank god for my HTC HD2. No problem here beside the screen shaking. But I hardly notice it.

kilrah said:
1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
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SonyEricsson Satio, for example. I download at 900Kb/s with it on the same network (using the same browser, Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3). Poor implementations doesn't mean it's not possible. Do we need 4Ghz quad core processors to use a wireless g network? Obviously not.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
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A bad behaviour, even when happens at factory settings is still a bad behaviour. You have a strange definition of "normal". Surely a phone that in 20 days saturate all the available space on the rom cannot be considered "normal". It's a poor implementation of things. A good implementation would have addressed it from the start by allowing the user WHERE to store that files or giving him an option to clear that files without an hard reset. No, it's not normal. Software design it's a much more complicated thing than those "normal" things.

You know you have problems when your best programs are Hd2tweaks, Bsbtweaks and Resco registry editor. And you are continually wiping out your system and trying new roms. Although Xannytech evolution was a good one.

Want to know stuff

1. Would you buy this again (Buyers Remors) after having it just a few days ?
2. Any light bleed ?
3. Any keyboard lag either using the browser or other apps ?
4. Any cosmetic issues with the tablet ?
5. Battery life at this time
6. Troubles transfering pictures/music from PC to tab ?
7. How is the camera on the tab ?
8. WiFi drops ?
9. Apps that you would like to have but not available

1. Yes, like i stated before i do feel as if your going to give up something to gain something at this point with tablets. The sd card on the xoom is normally how i would flash customizations, but the form factor and weight was more important to me.
2. None.
3. Keyboard lag on xda, same as my xoom.o
4. No. The build is equal to the xoom in my opinion minus the weight.
5. Didnt really keep track of it, but i use it hardcore and i think the xoom lastest me a little longer and charges a whole lot quicker!
6. After downloading drivers and switching off usb debugging it workes great.
7. The camera is not the same as the xoom camera as far as button placement but its easy to figure, photos are what you would expect nothing eye popping, servicable.
8. Not once. I also use wireless teather at work and it works flawless also.
9. Cant really think of any apps, but i do miss the customizations that are on my xoom like bigDX's themes and different fonts, really dont care for the stock look or colors on any of these tablets. Hope this helps.

Thank you mankoorb. So far you are the only one that has given me some food for thought in buying the tab. Wish there were more user reviews but guess we will have to wait a bit more.
You say that you have experienced some lag on xda. How long of a delay ? One or more seconds or less ?
How do you turn off usb debugging ? Don't have the tab yet, but is it some where in Settings or eles where ?

on xda only when typing replys the letters dont come up instantly. Usb debugging is in settings then computer recognizes the tablet as storage.

i hope to see more reviews as well, but since no one but those in nyc have it, there's barely anything. I'm going to be getting mine from amazon supposedly the 20th so I'll try to answer some questions for you when i get mine
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Anyone comment on voice to text and overall mic quality? Its pretty bad on Acer Iconia to the point its unusable for longer sentences.

SR45 said:
1. Would you buy this again (Buyers Remors) after having it just a few days ?
2. Any light bleed ?
3. Any keyboard lag either using the browser or other apps ?
4. Any cosmetic issues with the tablet ?
5. Battery life at this time
6. Troubles transfering pictures/music from PC to tab ?
7. How is the camera on the tab ?
8. WiFi drops ?
9. Apps that you would like to have but not available
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1. Yes I would certainly buy this again. I've been using an ipad since it first came out only for lack of better options. Now I finally feel like I can sell it on ebay and use this tab as my travel companion (once I can get a decent case of course).
2. No light bleed on my unit whatsoever (bought in NYC on 6/8 - just happened to be in town on business)
3. I had some keyboard lag until I turned off haptic fedback and that seemed to do the trick. Also switched from the Samsung keyboard to the Android keyboard. Not sure if either was the actual solution but no lag.
4. This tablet is gorgeous. No creaks (i.e. Archos 101), awesome screen quality, love the UI as I am a hard core Android phone user and love the similar look and feel.
5. So far so good. Haven't really tried to stretch it yet.
6. Haven't tried on a PC yet. Had issues on a Mac but then suddenly Samsung provided an updated version of Kies on their site on 6/9 and now I have no issues. Drivers are an issue on PC - I was in the process of tracking them down when I stumbled across the new Mac software.
7. Front camera is serviceable to decent on Google Video chat. MUCH better than ipad 2 via Skype.
8. Not yet.
9. So far so good. I use this for business quite a bit so PDF signature app is critical (found it) and then of course the usual suspects - ESPN, Wells Fargo, Etrade, Weatherbug (awesome Honeycomb version), Mobo player for Xvid... Can't wait to see what else becomes available in the coming days/weeks as this device goes out to the masses.
If you can't tell, I love this device. This is what I've been waiting for since ipad launched so I could get away from itunes.

What is haptic fedback and where is it located ? Thanks
Edit: OK, found the answer to what it is but is that also located in Settings ?

SR45 said:
1. Would you buy this again (Buyers Remors) after having it just a few days ?
2. Any light bleed ?
3. Any keyboard lag either using the browser or other apps ?
4. Any cosmetic issues with the tablet ?
5. Battery life at this time
6. Troubles transfering pictures/music from PC to tab ?
7. How is the camera on the tab ?
8. WiFi drops ?
9. Apps that you would like to have but not available
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1. At this time, no regrets. Size, weight and finish are spot on.
2. None.
3. Keyboard lag only when typing in forums likes these, otherwise no.
4. None.
5. Battery life is spot on with claims.
6. Haven't really taken any, but video is considerably better than what i expected.
7. This actually the answer to 6. Up to yesterday there really wasn't a way to transfer to/from Mac.Kies has been updated on the Samsung site so now its all gravy.
8. I do experience some wifi drops but nothing major.
9. I'm sure that there are some but nothing that has presented me from doing what I want to do.
All in all I'm happy.

SR45 said:
What is haptic fedback and where is it located ? Thanks
Edit: OK, found the answer to what it is but is that also located in Settings ?
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Yea keyboard setting, i don't use it.

SR45 said:
1. Would you buy this again (Buyers Remors) after having it just a few days ?
well, I got mine for free at google i/o so I can't really answer this. if I were going to get a tablet though, I think I'd pick the transformer over the tab. the lower price, extra ports and keyboard dock make it a clear winner for me. I haven't actually used a transformer though so maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.
2. Any light bleed ?
not that I can see
3. Any keyboard lag either using the browser or other apps ?
a little bit in the browser but it's managable
4. Any cosmetic issues with the tablet ?
top corners coming out of the bezel.. same issue seen by many others
5. Battery life at this time
never really kept track but it seems quite good. I only charge it ever few days and I usually don't charge it all the way.
6. Troubles transfering pictures/music from PC to tab ?
I haven't had any issues. I think the problems are with very large files like hd movies
7. How is the camera on the tab ?
I'd say it's not so great since it's not as good as the one on my nexus one. I'd rather use my phone anyway though..
8. WiFi drops ?
not at all. strong antenna too
9. Apps that you would like to have but not available
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none come to mind.. I'd really like to see improved facebook, twitter and skype apps though.

stock transformer now almost perfect?

the 8.6.5.9 update answered my few remaining OS niggles -- most importantly ad-hoc wifi tethering -- and with the wider availability of accessories (like a spare charging cable), i think i'm finally happy.
it also helps that i discovered "native" display mode on my toshiba tv so that the hdmi input from the TF is no longer clipped.
youtube HD plays beautifully (except in opera altho. i'm sure an update there is imminent) and i can c&p in polaris.
my tf is stable. very few crashes.
no need to root at all.
what's not to like now?

I agree, not many grumbles here at all either
If there was a way to block ads without rooting it would be perfect
That reminds me, I was going to take a look at my router, Im sure it has URL blocking in the settings, I might try adding the AdFree HOSTS list into there

At home, i am using peixelserv to block ads in my dd-WRT router for wifi conections.
Truely, i am still lookig for resons to root my TF.
Specially when netflix also works now, although the quality of movie is too bad, looks like it thinks tf is a phone and streams in low resolution.
I dont have any problem with my dock.
I want my tf to connect to serial port of my sun sparc servers using usb to serial cable. I dont know which software to use. I think it needs usb otg support which i guess honeycomb already has. This is the only reason i might do the root if it needs some hack.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

theabsurdman said:
it also helps that i discovered "native" display mode on my toshiba tv so that the hdmi input from the TF is no longer clipped.
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Good point there...on Samsung TV's it's called Picture Size and you need to set it to "Just Scan" mode to show everything rather than 16:9 mode. Other manufacturers will have different but similar modes to adjust the display to show the TF output as it should.

8.6.5.9 WW rooted is perfect for me. I'm well happy with the tablets performance and features. Although I wouldn't say no to some ICS Android 4.0 love

I have to add myself to this list...with Netflix working (the pixilation only lasts for about 20 seconds, then the picture is crystal clear) and ad-hoc wifi working, and copy and paste working in Polaris....
I'm not rooted for the first time since owning it!...

Well tunneling over ssh if you are on a hotspot does afaik not work if you don't root the device.
+ You can't set any network routes. Or use a http proxy for applications.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

I agree, my TF is not rooted, and loving the Transformer more than ever.
It runs really smoothly now, homescreen transitions are perfect, the stock browser
is amazing, it hasn't crashed in weeks and its blisteringly quick. It becomes more and
more useful every day with some fantastic apps being developed for honeycomb now.
Even with a bit of battery drain on my B40 dock I'm really pleased with my Tablet.
Well done Asus

Right now the only thing that bothers me is not being able to open CBRs in file manager or over network like I can with video and mp3s.

its annoying to have such a high sensitivity touchpad...I have accidently overwritten already written notes in many application like Evernote etc many time, none of them have an undo option so i cant remediate. rooting will not help me on this one unless someone comes up with a hack to reduce the sensitivity.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Still needs better proxy handling. No Authenticated proxies (hit and miss with http)... Only way I can see to do this is with apps like proxy droid that require root. This will be the biggie for corporate and some school adoption (not only transformer missing this, android in general).

Almost perfect but the default browser still sucks,still getting the block while scrolling. I dont think Asus will ever fix the lag on the browser.

dazz87 said:
Almost perfect but the default browser still sucks,still getting the block while scrolling. I dont think Asus will ever fix the lag on the browser.
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Should include the stock browser in criticism as it's not an Asus developed item

I use Opera mobile it works great.
And I have the touchpad disabled at all times. You can't type if it is enabled.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

the asus transformer is an awsome device ever since i got it turn my monster computer on less and less. only 1 small gripe i have is that the internet button on the keyboard is not configurable
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I am also very happy with the stock image. Unless there is some killer app out there that needs rooting, I do not envision rooting this device.
BTW, talk about browser lag. The text box froze for 20 seconds while entering the last part of the sentence above. This was in FF 6.0 on my quad core Windows 7 system with 16 GB of memory. The activity bar at the bottom shows that as you type the services on the sites "ad.., yieldmanager.com, ..." are being accessed. Perhaps the messages are being scanned as entered for ad keywords to serve up to you.

jerrykur said:
I am also very happy with the stock image. Unless there is some killer app out there that needs rooting, I do not envision rooting this device.
BTW, talk about browser lag. The text box froze for 20 seconds while entering the last part of the sentence above. This was in FF 6.0 on my quad core Windows 7 system with 16 GB of memory. The activity bar at the bottom shows that as you type the services on the sites "ad.., yieldmanager.com, ..." are being accessed. Perhaps the messages are being scanned as entered for ad keywords to serve up to you.
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I noticed that also. Unless I use an "ad blocker" my PC and my TF lag on XDA. When I use an adblocker on both....both work just fine with no lag.

rpavich said:
I noticed that also. Unless I use an "ad blocker" my PC and my TF lag on XDA. When I use an adblocker on both....both work just fine with no lag.
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What ad blocker are you using on the TF?

The firmware is coming right along and getting Netflix is a big help. Unfortunately the lackluster build quality makes me pretty unhappy, and that's not something that can be fixed with a firmware update. I'm a little bummed right now because after having to exchange the dock for the battery drain power, I had to RMA the tablet today because of a power button that no longer works. Considering that I don't use this tablet very much (maybe for an hour a week tops) this seems like a lot of breakage for a brand new item. I really wish they had charged more for these tablets and spent the money on higher quality materials.

I have to say for the first couple of weeks I had a HUGE issue with the touchpad while typing. But in the end it would be what I would call an issue between the chair and the computer... Turn the touchpad off while typing! I email and type a lot and with it in the way during that time it was killing me. We have touch screen dammit!!!!!
Love this device...
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Hands on/First Impressions?

Has anybody done a hands on video for the standard Phab 2. I am thinking about ordering it, but I would like to see it in action and hear what people think about it. There is not much out there yet about this one as it is being overshadowed by the Tango phone. Thanks for any info guys.

I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...

So I went ahead and made the purchase too. My phone dialer would never pull up and would immediately force close even after reboots. I just downloaded a 3rd party dialer app and that works just fine. Today, the other bug hit me. My wife called and she could not hear me. I tried speaker phone and even hung up and called her back, but the microphone was not recognizing me during the call. This is an irritating bug, but it seems like it is just software. I also have an issue with turning the wifi on. If it is off, my phone will immediately turn it back off each time after I try to turn it on. The only way I can find to make it work is to turn it on directly after a reboot and then just leave it on. The only bug that is a big deal to me is the phone call issue. If that does not reoccur often, I can deal with the other issues since the phone was such a reasonable price.
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I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...
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couldnthinkaone said:
I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...
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I just bought Lenovo Phab2. So far so good. No issues. Pretty smooth. You just got unlucky and got the bad one. I am trying root but cannot find any info.

Unfortunately my replacement device seems to have the same issues the original did in regards to the Phone App. No contact loading. I wiped and installed my Google account every different way I could think of(7-8 times...) but no luck. Sorry Lenovo, like I said, I really wanted to like this phone, but I feel there are a lot of kinks that need to be worked out. Good luck to those of you with the fortitude to rock this beast, but I'm out. Sent it back yesterday for a refund and ordered an Axon 7 that I'll be picking up later today.
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archaleus said:
So I went ahead and made the purchase too. My phone dialer would never pull up and would immediately force close even after reboots. I just downloaded a 3rd party dialer app and that works just fine. Today, the other bug hit me. My wife called and she could not hear me. I tried speaker phone and even hung up and called her back, but the microphone was not recognizing me during the call. This is an irritating bug, but it seems like it is just software. I also have an issue with turning the wifi on. If it is off, my phone will immediately turn it back off each time after I try to turn it on. The only way I can find to make it work is to turn it on directly after a reboot and then just leave it on. The only bug that is a big deal to me is the phone call issue. If that does not reoccur often, I can deal with the other issues since the phone was such a reasonable price.
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I know it's a pain, but I would try a hard reboot/wipe. That's the only thing that worked for mine(the original anyway) as far as the mic goes. Hopefully you have better luck than I did.

Check, Check, 1, 2, 1,2 - Mic issue - Otherwise pretty good phone
I have mine since 12/6 (just under a week).
Likes: Big Screen. Quality screen. I'm coming from a 1080P display and it's a 720P, but I have to say, it's bright, colors are good. Very clear. Good for consuming media and as a remote terminal (for Citrix/RDS). 32 GB of internal storage. Reasonably responsive. Not much of a gamer.
Dis-Likes: Microphone disconnecting. Camera. Teflon-like slickness of case. MicroSD Card caddy - cannot read my card.
OK, after long, obsessive deliberation on my next new phone, I ended up with this phone. It was a long and winding road to end up a place I didn't expect to be. I was originally intent on purchasing the Zenfone 3 Ultra. But since the fine folks at Asus, didn't want to a put a radio on this model that would get 4G/LTE speeds (in the U.S.) AND being that I use my phone for hotspot and pay for the data bandwidth, I wanted the ability to realize that bandwidth when hotspotted in on a notebook. So, I decide on the Phab2 Pro, but purchasing through the portal seemed like "unavailable", "ships in 5 weeks", "ships in 3 weeks" etc......So, around Thanksgiving, as I'm checking in on the Pro, I see that the Phab 2 is available for $30 bucks off the pretty low $200. I think to myself "What if I'm only in love w/ the idea of a big phone and not the reality of a big phone?". My phone prior was the Moto X Pure (great value, love the phone) 5.7" display. Pretty big, but not this big. So, I figure, a buck 70? why not? If I don't like it, it can be a tablet/lifeboat for the next keg-tub diving non-waterproof phone incident where I need an emergency phone. Again, it can be a tablet on my sofa console.
So, I purchase it. It comes. The first thing I noticed was the slipperiness of the phone. It's a big phone, that I thought I'd be able to single hand (I'm 6'3" w/ ham hands, not-petite). I cannot. At the fear of breaking a new (though reasonably priced) toy, I heir on the side of cautious and I operate w/ both. So, I figure, I'll just "OK Google" dial and use earpods. I quickly find out (believe) that "OK Google" exacerbates a microphone issue. Not sure if the process being spawned has enough rights, holds on to the application, causes a memory leak, or what. But if you "OK Google" dial, it will (*may*) lead to the mic becoming unresponsive and playing the "I can't hear you game". I will be the first to admit that phones are phones anymore. They are computers that you can also make and receive phone calls from *BUT* the phone functionality is still a pretty necessary element of these handheld computers. So, hopefully Lenovo will get this sorted out in Nougat, or maybe they paid short shrift to bug squashing on Marshmallow knowing they were quickly going to Nougat. But the mic issue definitely not great.
I did some testing and found that I could reliabley place calls 10 times in a row (mic connected) manually, then 10 w/ google while it was unlocked, then 9 out of 10 w/ google dialing while phone was locked.
I followed this up w/ 40 manual dials where the mic was always connected. I was pretty sure the mic issue was related to OK Google (voice command), but then I let it sit overnight (last night), and found that w/o any OK Google, the mic disconnected on the phone. (That's why I'm thinking maybe memory leak, as OK Google might exacerbate the problem, not cause it). Reboot fixes this; but they need to get this squared away or it could create some negative buzz around an otherwise pretty nice little (ok, big) value phone.

Ok hello from India!!!! Got this phone today, screen is bright but in sunlight okkish,,call quality great,touch fabulous,slow dt2w,net wlan speed great,gets attentions, software can b better , lag sometimes or freezes very slightly, while commuting not handy cause size.

First Impressions...
I dropped my Xiaomi Note (5.7in), spider-webs appeared = I **HAD-TO** get a new phone. I decided to try a larger size. Impressed by the 3Gig RAM, the size, the capacity for expandable memory, the FM radio, the price, I bought the Phab2. The shop did not have a cover for this device, they advised me to go online. sigh... (that's how the spider-webs appeared in the first place... no cover!!!
The size takes some getting used to. Fits in my pockets ok. Camera = ok. Colors = ok. Calling and SMS = ok. Music reproduction = ok.
I. am. satisfied.
I have the Phab 2 (NOT the Phab 2 Plus - NOT the Phab 2 Pro) - bought in Prague, CZ.
-I had a problem to make GROUPS in my contact list. Android automatically added my contacts from my laptop Google Contact List. New folks that I added later to the phone could not be put into the newly created Group-List. What gives?
-A somewhat similar problem showed up when I attempted to make a Group-List of widgets / programs. Every morning when I switch on the phone, I have to re-organize the widgets & programs into groups AGAIN.
Is this a systemic problem? Am I doing the processes incorrectly? Can we add this to the list of known bugs?
LeePa

Love the phone, but can not get phone to work on voLTE. Anyone?

working 4 me but model is pb 650 m
works on 650 m model

sushil888 said:
works on 650 m model
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Yeah mine is PB2-650Y

sushil888 said:
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How did you set voLTE on 650m. Mine switches backs to 3G when I make calls?

settings
Nothing special.
Settings
Mobile networks.
ENHANCED networks.
Just enabled it.thats it

see
See got update 1.4 gb approx

Got update today,,,
Now volte iß fixed , whichwas disappeared in previous update

Does this support OTG? and is it upgradable to android nougat?

Otg = yes.
Nought = no

Problems I have with my Huawei P8 Lite

1. Battery
2. Sometimes when typing outputs two letters when pressed once so I have to resort to swipe typing which is unreliable...
3. Can't connect with Bluetooth to many items. For example, when connecting to my PS4 controller it says can't connect because of incorrect pin...
4. Sometimes when WiFi and Bluetooth is on, both may disconnect and bug.
5. Temperature can be high at times.
List may go on but I have had this phone for about 7 months and it hasn't been delivering...
Also, you really can't screen record on this phone...
Which really sucks cause Snapchat filters records your screen xD so you won't get that far with Snapchat.

1.Battery problems are common for this device so you have to deal with it.
2.I do not remember such error. I am using gboard and it's all fine..mostly. It lags sometimes if you switch between apps very often but it's also something you have to deal with because of the hardware..not for heavy multitasking.
3.No ideea about that, maybe there are some more steps to follow and it will work somehow.
4.Also known as a bug on EMUI, if both enabled, issues might occur.
5.That is useful since the winter season is coming lol.
Screen recording was working fine on mine.
I had 2 years with the P8Lite and it got me more into Huawei because it offered me a lot for it's price. Of course, aint a perfect phone nor a phone with high expectations but it's more than a decent phone.
Right now I'm using a P10 and it's a huge difference in terms of performace/design/screen..most of the aspects but even with that..P8Lite was a great experience for me.

Yeah I just think I got served a broken phone? Coz I've been browsing the internet and no one has been going through my problems... Well maybe I might grab a new phone lol coz I love this phone and I Kno my expectations are better, as you mentioned that these problems didn't occur with your phone I think I did indeed get served a broken p8lite... Thanks for your information btw..?