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Hi,
I've a HTC Touch (Elf), but Windows Mobile 6 is orrible imho
I'm finding a rom/porting of Android/Ubuntu Mobile/Linux for my Elf....
someone can help me?
I don't want stay with Windows Mobile please...
best thing to do would be to sell your phone and buy a phone with OS you want. there are some chinese phones with linux. they are also dual sim and they look and feel nice. not to mention price is way lower than htc devices.
i don't think you can find rom based on linux/ubuntu/android or anything for your phone because there is no hardware drivers for this OS.
if you want to see progress on porting android to kaiser (htc tytn II), take a look at this thread. but don't forget this is for KAISER ONLY. this is not android rom, but just some kind of emulation. however there is nice proggress on this project and we might have fully functional android on our phones. also important thing to know is that android itself isn't quite finished.
Will the Xperia be compatible with WM7 when it comes out?
Simple short question, but i am anxious to know.
Short answwer? Nobody knows, but probabl will be ported. Certainly not be official upgrade, but if they are able to put Linux on Experia, just couse it uses same processor arhitecture, that i am 99% sure they will port Windows 7 as well.
It is becomming more prety much like on desktop you can put Windows 7 on computer that came with Vista preinstaled right?
Windows Mobile 7 isn't the same thing a Windows Mobile 7. I am quite sure a version of WinMo7 will come out for the XPERIA when a beta version is available. There isn't a lot of new features in WinMo7 that I know of so for now I will use 6.1.
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Windows Mobile 7 isn't the same thing a Windows Mobile 7. I am quite sure a version of WinMo7 will come out for the XPERIA when a beta version is available. There isn't a lot of new features in WinMo7 that I know of so for now I will use 6.1.
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Wow, not a lot of new features? Have you seen the screens???
So I take back that statement. Screens look awesome.
Those pictures aren't official. Why are you guys making assumptions?
Well you can be sure WInMo 7 will have EVERYTHING rewritten. Every menu, SMS sending everything, no more ugly menus, so it is not that much abaut features iPhone has less of them for example. But if you will be moving through setting or stuff anywhere you won't see one single resemblance to WInMo 6. It will be like TF3D would be made to completly remove any WInMo 6 stuff there is, just different, so WinMo 7 is bringing buty to Windows Mobile, somthing that has been neglected from winmo 1 to 6. And a little tweaked for 6.5.
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Those pictures aren't official. Why are you guys making assumptions?
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Because that all we know is that they are leaked pictures so we assume that this is WinMo7, for at least a bit. Can anyone guess the system specs?
"Can anyone guess the system specs?"
seriously you want people to guess?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html
I've read about HD2 performance since it was released, but now it seems that it is getting even better, with full android support and soon WM7, but is it true?
I want to change my X1 and was nearly going to get a Desire because i seem to like android, but i found that HD2 might support WM7 in the near future, and i want to have it too.
but is having HD2 and running on it other OS (Like android) a good choice for everyday use or just for hackers who like to push the device to its limits?
I'd say its more for people who like to mod there phones. It takes a lot of work and research to get android running well.... and it will probably never run as well as you can get a native android phone running. If you just want to run android and want a phone that will easily work, get an android phone. If you want to use winmo and android, and have the time, patience, and willingness to hack and play around with your phone until it works the way you want, then the hd2 is perfect.
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i don't know, i personally like my HD2 with android and ubuntu. aside from having to load a winmo rom so voice and sound would work correctly, the whole process following the FAQ was less than 1hr. i'm not saying there aren't risks, but i do like the reward.
I do little modding on devices I use (computers, routers, mobile phones), and with my X1 i did many experiments and used many ROMs just to get the functionality i want, and still i am not very satisfied with it.
Currently i am trying the X1 version of android, which is quite fast and stable, but there is no support for the camera, wifi is not always working, and it is a huge battery eater (not more than 2-3 hours). but i liked the interface, can be changed easily, many apps in the app store, that's why i wanted an android.
If i see that HD2 can use a Desire HD rom in a native mode, then HD2 is it
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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HD2 The Best !
I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !
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What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2.
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... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so...
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by native i mean what Danny1911 said, and it seem there is some research on this this will be great, so, i am a step more to get hd2....
I ordered an HD2, will arrive tomorrow night.... LET THE FUN BEGIN !!!!
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What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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Well said!! The device driver's war will never end anytime soon.
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I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !
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Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin down quick (bluescreen. lol) anyhow, android works great and fast enuff on my hd2 winmo 6.5.x custom rom (spl3) running android 2.2.1 dl desireZ v3.4finalz (webkit 3.1). I come from the dos and basic unix/bsd times, aah the times when DOS Shell with a booted mouse driver using a floppy was great to browse file systems quick n boot many things, cut copy paste ect, and bad because would forget vital entries then back to installing 9 o so floppies again, windows 3.1 saved us all for a long time as regards to media sound and streaming techniques. i went off topic, don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless
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Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin do wn quick(bluescreen. lol)
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Um not trying to be a butt hole here but have you not checked out the NAND Andriod ROMs? They seem to be running pretty good. I have talked to plenty of people that use a NAND Andriod ROM as their day to day OS on their HD2.
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don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless
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This is very good advice. Windows Mobile is not your average users OS. All of what you said above is great advice.
nand on hd2 is way better than on a mid level Android device.
This thread is from 4 months ago... no reason to revive it.
just an idea - if there is no "backward compability" for WM6,5 applications on WP7, then - from technical point of view - if anyone can install/move/copy the whole WM6,5 from HTC HD/HD2 to HTC HD7 or any of WP7 phones? I mean, are there any "hardwarish objections" for such operation?
The incompatibility issues alone and work required to do this would be immense
Also posted in wrong forum. All queries should be directed to General Forum which I've now moved it to
This is kinda funny, but I would love to see older OS(WM 6.1/6.5) on newer phones.
Why do we have to move to Windows Phone OS? We’re going from "pocket PC's" to "Smart Phones". That is a step backwards. I’ve got my HTC diamond 2 running perfect just want a faster phone, with HD Video cam. When I had a Samsung Omnia, I fixed all its problems by installing a moded HTC WM6.5 rom, I want a new HTC now, but hate WP7! I got into Xda's cos you can make um run how you want, WP7 is like why I hate the IPhone. I would love to get the HTC 7 Pro if I can just keep the OS I’m using on my HTC Diamond 2, its perfect now. I can’t be the only one that feels, windows phone is just windows mobile Basic.
Pleases give us our full OS back! or how's this. A choice of OS
Windows Phone X.X User
and
Windows Mobile X.X Pro
Does that make it less confusing? I really do want to know of a good 6.5 rom for the HD7 or 7 Pro are available. Thank you
P.s. what are non-phone PDA's going to run on? Is wm6.5 the last OS ever?
Windows phone 7 is a sh*t transition from windows mobile to full fledged operating system like Windows 7. WP7 sucks big time, no productivity for me.
It is all true... I'm totaly disapointed with my HT7 because of the WP7..
I need WM6.5 or at last Android on it...
Some one help us!!!
There are no devs to do this. They lack time, knowledge, drivers, blah blah.
We give them money, they won't do a sh**
Simply said, there is no community like it was few years ago. Shame.
that might be true, but nobody forced you to buy a device with an os, that you don't like, if you simply wanted to give different OSs a try, your best choice would have been a HD2, which handles wm6.5, 6.5.x, android, wp7, ubuntu, windows 95, 98 and meego. that way, if you are unsatisfied with either OS, you still have plenty of others to give a try.
I'm not a programmer, so I’m sorry if this is impossible for something I’ve not see. But couldn't someone make a rom file that you copy directly onto the inbuilt SD micro card. Of course this will mean hard resetting the phone it will install from the inbuilt Rom copy of WP7. But you just pop the card in a pc, maybe partition it 512MB program storage. And the other 14.5MB storage card (after lost formatting space.) I though the HD2 and HD7 are almost the same Xda device. Please PDA WinMobo OS's cant die! It does the most
All I want is Smartphone’s that work how I want, not how I’m told to use um.
Losing this is stepping back in time.
Thanks for reading Stu Jones
Enabling WM6.5 on HD7
Hi Guys,
I have been a PDA user and in particular a a windows mobile user for 7-8 years now. I am a total fan of modified ROMs and hats off to all those developers who have been developing modified ROMs on many various devices for many years now, I extend my appreciation and gratitude now. I have also been an xda-developers member for many years now, and have read many many posts and forum topics, so please disregard the post count as I didn't need to post in many cases.
I recently graduated; though I am a communications engineering graduate I did do embedded systems in my last year. Having said that, I am now in a position to start playing around with such devices and possibly do some development work.
I, like the people on this thread have mentioned, do not like WP7, the the fact that you cannot directly sync with outlook, and even worse, HD7 Pro has hardware keyboard that is completely useless and WP7 doesn't even go in to landscape mode unless typing up messages.
On the other hand, even though I appreciate Android, I do not like it either for various reasons I'd rather not delve in to. I am a fan of hardware keyboards, therefore I also had in my mind the possibility of porting WM6.5 to Desire Z though I have not even researched the feasibility of it yet.
Therefore, I announce to my fellow xda-developers.com users and readers of my intentions to begin work on porting WM6.5 to HD7. Though I do not have any experience or knowledge on the venture. The start will be a slow process and request the patience of everyone.
Having said that I would need a mentor when I run in to problems and when I need help. I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced developers here could express their willingness to help when needed I would be really grateful.
Having said that, those with experience, is there a good link you could give me where I could start reading up on what I need to learn about the device and the OS in question?
I presume I would need to know the specific system components of the HD7 and HD2, what components are identical, similar and different? I believe that the architecture is similar if not identical? Thanks.
Regards
Hi all, im new here to start join this site, because i just bought HTC HD2 started to use wm6.5, this site lot of information help me to choose the collect phone model before i buy it, before i was thinking of which OS is the best & use full for me, WM6.5? WP7? or Android? i need to choose the OS can support GMXT GPS its important for me travel lot, both of them WP7 & Android cant make it, so i choose HD2, i was bought 3 days ago in Vietnam HCMC, try to find best price in town, almost every sold out! get from website information for used HD2, almost sold out too, until 7th shop i get it, used but look new but is T mobile HD2, USD370 deal..
WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
Simon_WM said:
guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
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I know just being polite, someone asks, why not answer, the thread is after all already here
I have changed from a Windows Phone hater, to a Lover. Still think Win Mobile was the most advanced mobile OS ever, but WP is fast getting it all back :good:
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I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7 thinks just a dream/idea. I know that wouldn't be easy. but if anyone fancied the challenge advantage is it would work on all WP7> handsets
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
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I would still like to see wm6.5 ported over along with wp8 since technically we have an sd card and we can have nfc sim cards.
There is a windows mobile emulator to wp7
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-running-on-windows-phone-7/
and here is one that maybe can be ported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411154
I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7, Post above looks like what I mean. but can't be sure if true, or someone has made MyMobiler just remote desktop a WM6 device to WP7. will keep an eye out for the .Xap
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
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dazza9075 said:
WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
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Hey everyone
Im just bought a used hd2 and just doing some investigating on xda on what you can do on it. And i must say, you can do A LOT on it. I was thinking of using a sd android rom as it is the easiest way. But now it leaves me with a decision with what OS to boot on NAND. Windows Mobile is old but its still good, WP7 is new and i dunno, kind of stuck in between the two. Can anyone help with my dilemma? Thanks
Why not just try WP7? It isn't going to take more than 5 mins to have everything ready. Beware it will format your sd card, so put in another one.
wp7 is a great os... go for it
best thing would be to try out wp7 and experience it. it's definitely worth installing and trying out. like wm6.5 or android, wp7 has it's own ups and downs. really depends on your preferences but again once you've tried it only you can decide which os is best suited for you. cheers
As to me, i still love WM 6.5.5 and i am going to stick with it for a very long time! Sense UI is so ****in great! loooooooove it! Android is not my stile and WM 7 is weird... my opinion though maybe later on i'll try both of them!
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Hey everyone
Im just bought a used hd2 and just doing some investigating on xda on what you can do on it. And i must say, you can do A LOT on it. I was thinking of using a sd android rom as it is the easiest way. But now it leaves me with a decision with what OS to boot on NAND. Windows Mobile is old but its still good, WP7 is new and i dunno, kind of stuck in between the two. Can anyone help with my dilemma? Thanks
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Just like others, I would strongly encourage you to test all the roms available here
I once, used SD Android, then WP7, then NANDROID, then going back again to Dual Boot WM 6.5.x and SD Android. This is the best combination for what I need it from my HD2. But, it will be very subjective.
So, go flashing it and share your experiences with us
Cheers
If you are mainly going to run Android, then why not run it Android NAND?
If you prefer the dual boot but still mainly use the Android on the SD, then does it really matter, as you switch on your HD2 then when WP or WM boot up you use the system to close and load Android.
Personally I still like WM, as it is open and completely customisable. I regularly switch between WM and Android (SD). Android for the apps and WM for the apps not on Android. If all the apps were available on all operating systems (WM/WP/Android) I would not move away from WM.