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Flashing WM6.5 rom, ever possible?

I have been using WM based device over five years and now, I would like to try something new.
It seems that the HTC Click is an easy start with Android, but I am just curious that is it ever possible to flash WM6.5 rom on Click just in case I cant get use to Android?

I'm no chef or developer or anything but my guess would be no.
Been using HTC diamond for last two years and they havn't fully got android working on that because of driver issues, so cannot see WM working on an even newer phone.

wtf would you wanna do that for?

that too lol

jamezelle , man ask some simple and logical question. why f word here? are you payed from somebody? millions are used to windows mobile. meaby only percent want not to change habits and you attack many people for no reason.
i also want to buy tatto , here is free with some contact, but if i can switch to wm.
dont YOU ask me why.
if somebody polite can ask i would give only couple reason:
1. i cannot live without total commander. and dont want to spend life in searching how to add it on andriod, if is possible at all?
2. also TCPMP
3. also meaby tomtom is what i prefer for gps
4. i like resco photo viewer
5. and sound recorder
6. also MANY simple utitlities i want to add too , like conversation recorder ...
7. also curious to see improvement in performance from my p3300 regarding processor and memory
8. not your bussines with your atacking aproach...

WOW! you're the one on the attack here, I agree with Jamezelle & judging by the reasons you posted, why not just stick to a windows mobile device?
I amazes me that people would post on an Android board asking how to make it run windows & expect not to get this kind of response?
Try going on an apple forum & asking if you can run windows on the iphone
People are being light hearted here (notice the smiley on the end of his reply?) but Seriously, if you really can't live without WM apps buy a WM phone (or contact the developer to ask if they considered an android version), if you want to change to Android then more power to you, go buy a cheap Android handset & keep both until you are 100% sure, T-mobile UK sell them on P.A.Y.G.
They are designed to run the OS they are shipped with, you cant really complain that it wont do stuff the other does.
Don't forget WM has been around a lot longer so there are bound to be more apps, in the very short time Android has been out it has done some wonderful things & in time (I believe) it will become the number 1 OS as more companies develop software for it.
I started on Android, changed to WM, then back to Android & many people here run both.
A serious & informative answer was given in the 1st reply. Did it really need to go this far?
NO, Windows OS or Apps wont run on an Android handset...
...AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!

Ok. more resonable answer, Thanks
i just think if nobody of wm users dont complain for possibility of android running on "wm devices" (seen this on Tilt , www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxcdSsmmKz8 )why would you guys complain?
i just like Tattoo device. and becaouse of your attitude i will certainly never have oportunity to have afordable great device (like tattoo)
But You can have win devices as i know. not fair . that is the point.
(sorry for eng)

ok . i'm out
i'w got answers, argue don;t lead anywhere...
all the best for all of us

why buying an android phone when late wm phones are same $$$ and fit better to a WM OS?
another thing is having an WM for the last year, and with the late release of android, wanting to flash to android

i got a htc winmo device from 2007 and Android has given it more life...especially the Tattoo Rom..gtta love sense UI on qvga..whats that? More HTC qvga android phones for 2010. Maybe I can wait for winmo 7 after all.

i have the solution
send me your tatoo
ill send you my htc touch mk 1
fair swap
you get windows
i get anotheR lovely android device !!
(( no but seriously the apps you want i can sort of agree with, file managers on android are a whole new thing when your used to win-mob, maybe try linda file manager or astro its just a getting used to process... or we can swap ! ))
=====PEACE=====

htc tattoo clone running WM ?
Hello,
I have found this 3 month old news:
http://www.clonedinchina.com/2010/01/htc-tattoo-clone-touch-g4-runs-windows-mobile.html
Is this Windows mobile ROM compatible with the HTC Tattoo ?
If it is compatible, can someone upload this Windows mobile ROM ?
Thank you

Problem is, that this clone doesn't need to have the same hardware equipment as the original one (because of the drivers). But I know that the pendant of the tattoo (HTC Touch2) has nearly the same HW equipment...maybe this could be of any help?

dxs1 said:
Hello,
I have found this 3 month old news:
http://www.clonedinchina.com/2010/01/htc-tattoo-clone-touch-g4-runs-windows-mobile.html
Is this Windows mobile ROM compatible with the HTC Tattoo ?
If it is compatible, can someone upload this Windows mobile ROM ?
Thank you
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HI
im using a jade and guys at the jade forum wanted android on our phone but it looks like impossible assuming the same for the tatoo running WM in fact this is the reason that im seriously considering buying a tatoo(its also in my budget)
and for ur info the specs on the tatoo and jade(touch3G) are quite the same
and just for the sake of my made craze to try android looks like i might buy a tatoo soon

Sick of the Winmo 7 discussion

Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985

Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Specs are good, but hardware requirements are not met by the HD2, now what does that mean, well it means that HTC did not look ahead, and used the wrong button configuration on the phone, so it is outside the spec of what MS says is required for WP7.
So yes we are Officially screwed out of WP7 because of the buttons on our phones .....
I doubt MS is going to change their requirements for the very few existing WinMo phones that have the CPU and RAM to handle WP7.

The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.

I don't think wp7 will even be a viable option for most of us anyways (at least the initial release). Very locked down, sounds a lot like the first iphone. I'm hoping they update quickly and open it up (at least every 2-3 months), but I wouldn't hold my breath.
That is why I decided to take the plunge with the hd2. Figured it would be a couple of years before I was ready to jump on wp7. (though that 1.5ghz snapdragon htc sounds interesting and apparently is coming to t-mobile...)

chuck232 said:
The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
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Ow is it? Cuz now I still work with my HTC Raph100 with those custom roms I talked about. I'm hoping to unbox my Leo begin this week.
So are the roms better now for the Leo?
Greetz,
Fabian1985

When I go to the offical windows mobile 7 home page..the first thing I see is the HTC Leo!!!
p.s. Sorry for the image size :$
Greetz,
Fabian1985

im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???

im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???

The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985

For me, tinkering is fun, but that is not the main function of my work device. I want it to work, and work well. If that means giving up a couple features, features which I can live without, then I'll play ball. WP7 has been built from the ground up with a very different goal than Windows Mobile, which had the original goal of bringing the PC to a PDA format. I don't need that, and the functionality that is associated with that goal gets in the way of usability for my purposes. If your use cases do not match up with what WP7 is capable of, so be it, but know that the vast majority of customers aren't tinkerers and tweakers.

Fabian1985 said:
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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"alot of old junk" in WM 6.5? Oh yes - like copy & paste, and proper multitasking? If you think that's junk, you'll love WP7.
iPhone OS v1 was rubbish. v4 finally has most of what you actually need and what WM has had for years. Same with Android - the first versions were severly lacking in many areas. Only now is it coming into it's own at v2.2.
Anyone should be able to see that since it's a completely new OS, WP7 will be equally as rubbish as the iPhone and Android offerings were at initial release.

yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...

drownage said:
yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.

This is a stupid and pointless thread.

Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Be patient and wait for WM Phone 7 to come out! Once it's out you / HD2 will get the chance.

Kalavere said:
This is a stupid and pointless thread.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.

watcher64 said:
Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.

chuck232 said:
Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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I had heard about the 3 button some time early last year, but you are right that may have been after the design and during the production phase of the HD2.
MS did not make an Official release of the specs till I think January of this year, I think that is when it was.
Either way , you can blame HTC, you can blame MS, but, it is true for any piece of technology, CPU's that keep changing sockets, Video Cards that keep changing standards, DVD/Blu-Ray standards the list goes, on ...
I mean providers are not going to change what they decide to to with regards to their specs and requirements just because people scream, I mean why can't I run Iphone OS on my HD2(not that I want to ), because it is not compatible, even though the HD2 out powers most Iphones, and just because Apple says NO.
I suggest, instead of getting all up in arms here, and bashing people for their views you contact MS and HTC and complain to them, not that it will get you anywhere, just as posting here is just gonna start a big discussion, but not fix it anyway.

chuck232 said:
They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
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Yes, sorry I meant more like management a while ago... 1 year ago is still much after iPhone released... they should have done something like WP7 from the beginning and if management wasn't an issue, I doubt we would see two different teams for mobile in the first place: Kin and WP7... I do agree however, management is seeming much better now...
EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...

drownage said:
EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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True, and I am sure some of the smart guys here will do just that for our custom WP7 ...

Some things you should concider to think about before flash WP 7

Some things you should concider to think about before flash WP 7 !
This is just some of WP7 dissapointments which I experianced and why to revert back to WM 6.5 :
1. Activation stuff from MS ( I do not wont and do not need to "activate" to somebody my allready expensive HD2 device).As I read on net,Microsoft will have new activation policy in next WP7 phone update,so,nether WP7 modded ROM would not be safe to install.
2. Navigation looks like that children make it..Navigon is far primitive compared to Igo Primo.Lacks and mistakes are everywhere throughout it,very slow,not precise,no way to customise it...etc.etc.
3. Every kind of application has to be signed before any use or installation.
4. Zune software and bunch of unneccessery "addons" which comes in so called "Windows developer tools" to run from PC.You need to install Microsoft Expression,Zune,Microsoft games for marketplace,Microsoft Silverlight,3,4 SDKs,Visual studio Express..etc.etc.etc
5. Lack of easy access to documents,PDFs,files.Device become "Iphon-ised" and very "dummy".So,expensive device become dummy device.
6. Every kind of sync and use needs various hacks and registry modds.
7. Camera images looks like made by cheap 20$ idiot cameras.
8. No support for flash videos in browser.So,no Youtube.
9. Lack of "real" mighty programs....(I presume that it will be partialy fixed as time goes by)
10. No sharing SD cards between devices...
etc...etc...etc...
If you have to add something that I forget,please do and help to other users who are in doubt to flash WP7 or not.
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yeah, I have something to add.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814075

They promised Chinese IME since they release. Still nothing.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

To be honest, first time I've ran WP7 I thought this is a beta1 version. I haven't seen so many bugs and design flaws in any other mobile OS. It's a shame.

You realize half your complaints have to do with you running WP7 on a non WP7 device?

^^what he said

but i'm still dealing with it and waiting for the next update this Feb like MS announced

I am sure you are a frustrate buyer of an android phone , because i dont understand how the f. you compare a SO with some months in the market with winmo 6.5 or android or iphone who is established in the smartfone market years ago. Did you forget the begins of this " spectacularry " IPHONE or Android phones, and so manny bugs they have ????
Be patient my friend.The igo8 , primo, or sygic. or something gps about you talk have about 3-4 years acomodated in wm, and wm exist a long time ago.
Sorry but you cant see the future my friend .

tin2404 said:
Some things you should concider to think about before flash WP 7 !
This is just some of WP7 dissapointments which I experianced and why to revert back to WM 6.5 :
1. Activation stuff from MS ( I do not wont and do not need to "activate" to somebody my allready expensive HD2 device).As I read on net,Microsoft will have new activation policy in next WP7 phone update,so,nether WP7 modded ROM would not be safe to install.
2. Navigation looks like that children make it..Navigon is far primitive compared to Igo Primo.Lacks and mistakes are everywhere throughout it,very slow,not precise,no way to customise it...etc.etc.
3. Every kind of application has to be signed before any use or installation.
4. Zune software and bunch of unneccessery "addons" which comes in so called "Windows developer tools" to run from PC.You need to install Microsoft Expression,Zune,Microsoft games for marketplace,Microsoft Silverlight,3,4 SDKs,Visual studio Express..etc.etc.etc
5. Lack of easy access to documents,PDFs,files.Device become "Iphon-ised" and very "dummy".So,expensive device become dummy device.
6. Every kind of sync and use needs various hacks and registry modds.
7. Camera images looks like made by cheap 20$ idiot cameras.
8. No support for flash videos in browser.So,no Youtube.
9. Lack of "real" mighty programs....(I presume that it will be partialy fixed as time goes by)
10. No sharing SD cards between devices...
etc...etc...etc...
If you have to add something that I forget,please do and help to other users who are in doubt to flash WP7 or not.
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1. You will have activation issues when you try to run the OS on a non-supported phone. You ventured into it, so you have to deal with it.
2. For a 4 month old platform, WP7 is reasonably stable and bug free. Nothing, compared to the number of issues I had with my iPhone 2G.
3. Isn't that a good thing for a consumer-oriented device?
4. Zune, yes. Windows Dev Tools? NO. You have to deal with it because you want to unlock and sideload apps. That isn't a fault of WP7.
5. What is meant by "easy access"? I had been able to download a 1000+ page PDF doc and open in Adobe reader.
6. NO. Registry is not for you. If it was, MS would have built in a registry editor in WP7.
7. The pics I clicked were no different than the ones I clicked with Android. Yes, the shutter sound is irritating.
8. There is a YouTube app. No, two. One from HTC too.
9. I presume that it would be "fully" fixed as time goes by.
10. How many times would you want to use a $10 SD card in shared mode?

was going to write all that ^^ said but i dont think i could have done it any better.
You sound very bitter for someone trying to use software you dont have permission to use on a device that is unsupported, you clearly havent used the device much anyway and by the sounds of it you havent done very well with "cracking" it either because youtube is available on the marketplace or im sure if you look hard enough you will find some XAPs, is it Microsofts fault that you cant read instructions on some random website detailing step by step how to get this on your OLD HD2?
Please calm down take a brake and rename this thread because it is infact YOU that is creating confusion to people that might buy this OS.
Windows Phone 7 has had some storm of Missinformation and bad PR based on untruths and incompertance, you are feeding this with this utter nonsense

dazza9075 said:
was going to write all that ^^ said but i dont think i could have done it any better.
You sound very bitter for someone trying to use software you dont have permission to use on a device that is unsupported, you clearly havent used the device much anyway and by the sounds of it you havent done very well with "cracking" it either because youtube is available on the marketplace or im sure if you look hard enough you will find some XAPs, is it Microsofts fault that you cant read instructions on some random website detailing step by step how to get this on your OLD HD2?
Please calm down take a brake and rename this thread because it is infact YOU that is creating confusion to people that might buy this OS.
Windows Phone 7 has had some storm of Missinformation and bad PR based on untruths and incompertance, you are feeding this with this utter nonsense
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Agreed.
WP7 is VERY good for the first release of a new OS. I was seriously amazed by it. Can't wait for updates with multitasking and new features, and for when the homebrew community delves deeper in and we figure out more ways of customizing it.

Virtually all "lacks" of WP7 were officially known from the very beginning.
A disappointment is nothing else but a logical consequence if you start trying the new OS if you think it should have been "perfect" from scratch.
There are quite a few buyers of native WP7 devices with the same attitude, that´s something I completely don´t understand.
Considering the flawless port of WP7 to HD2, my first thoughts after installing WP7 were quite different: I never had any first release (of whatever OS on any smartphone I ever owned) which was even close to the smoothness and bugless functionality of WP7 on HD2. Yes, the camera app function is crappy, but then again, there is already an alternative solution from the devs.
We should be happy that thanks to devs, it was (and is) possible to run a trial on our current hardware for free - there is no other device on the market which has the power to offer the same.
I guess quite a few users will go for a native WP7 device sometime in the future, others will decide for Android, or iOS, whatever. But the good thing is, you can do it having had the chance to test over weeks or months.
And that´s the good thing about HD2: It will be my electronic companion for quite a few more months, most probably for a total of 2 years. No other smartphone was good for me for so much time ever before. My guess is that for the rest of the time, I will be doing more trials with Android and WP7, while WM 6.5 is a nice fallback solution.
Oh, and btw, Navigon Select runs nicely here. It is a basic version. The full one will only come during this summer, I was told by them.

Buy a supported device then come back and rewrite this post.

yshi41 said:
You realize half your complaints have to do with you running WP7 on a non WP7 device?
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Yes,and I realise that HD2 is faster on WP7 than HD7

I think MS did a really good job with WP7.
Just think about how iOS and Android behaved first year on the market ?!?
I´m a strong beliver of Android (even a mod on forums), but WP7 really is interesting

tin2404 said:
Yes,and I realise that HD2 is faster on WP7 than HD7
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But it doesn't run as good on the HD2... touchscreen doesn't work as well on hd2. Once the registry is known more and native devices start getting custom roms, it'll probably run faster on native phones.

tin2404 said:
Yes,and I realise that HD2 is faster on WP7 than HD7
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It's not just a matter of performance sir

mikkybukky82 said:
Buy a supported device then come back and rewrite this post.
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that's such a weak argument, is virtually the same thing.
I have not experienced anything on my HD2 that an HD7 wouldn't do exactly the same except at times multi-touch goes weird. Any of the custom ROMs have most issues solved and have the registry edits cooked in, so all you have to do is flash and enter your activation code, just as if you hard-reset a native WP7 device.
WP7 is nice and smooth and I like it and I'm very happy to be able to use it on my phone, but till Mango drops it does have some issues that are OS-wide that prevent me from using it as a total daily without booting into Android from SD at times. That's not a knock though, I'm amazed MS put together a product like this for a first release. After the Mango update we will have more apps, more games, more custom ROMs with probably ability to totally change the UI if we want.
and @ OPs opinion that:
Activation stuff from MS ( I do not wont and do not need to "activate" to somebody my allready expensive HD2 device).As I read on net,Microsoft will have new activation policy in next WP7 phone update,so,nether WP7 modded ROM would not be safe to install.
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what the hell does that even mean? you provide no evidence to this, just some nebulous claim that you "read on net." We all have activation keys and MS has no idea who has an HD7 or an HD2, so it's not like they can just stop allowing access to the Marketplace. They have been totally cool about giving us keys, but for some arbitrary reason will change that after an update? The HD2 crowd are buying apps and hyping up the OS, with seemingly no security issues at all, I haven't seen any pirated apps...
most of the OP's points are pretty worthless and flashing any of the custom ROMs eliminate any reg hacks or unlocking or anything.

orangekid said:
most of the OP's points are pretty worthless and flashing any of the custom ROMs eliminate any reg hacks or unlocking or anything.
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Completley agree, I was going to reply to OP and rip apart everything he has ignorantly moeaned abo9ut but everything has pretty much been said already.

I must admit im a firm follower of WM6.5 and i was very reluctant to change to WM7. Ive had WM7 on my HD2 now for 2 weeks and im really starting to get into it alot more. Now that i have activated marketplace with Microsoft (which by the way was an absolute piece of piss) ive got pretty much all the apps that i used on WM6.5 apart from my Garmin XT which i miss, but im sure someone in the coming months will sort it out. You should re-flash it back to your phone, Activate it and get used to syncing with Zune. You will get into it fella. Its mint.

[Q] Thinking about buying a HD2

I’ve currently got a HTC Touch Pro and I’m thinking about maybe buying a HD2 which I can get on eBay for about £170 - £200 and that’s quite a lot of money so I want to be sure before I buy it. What has mainly gotten me interested in this phone is the fact it can run Windows Phone 7 which looks lovely. A few things I’m unsure about is the size and the fact this phone doesn’t have a hardware keyboard, I’ve used a friend’s HD2 before but only for a few minutes. Anybody here upgrade to the HD2 from a phone with a hardware QWERTY keyboard how did you find getting use to the onscreen one, was it better?
Thanks

It can run WP7, but it's a bit of a hack, you basically can't "activate" it to get apps from the marketplace or other xbox live services without calling Microsoft and getting a gullible representative on the line, which are hard to come by because by now they've mostly been briefed on this.
Also, who knows when nodo comes out in March if the old ROMs will still function indefinitely, nodo itself will have to be hacked in order for it to accept sideloading which Microsoft has stated they'd close. Also half the reason why the closed-source WP7 works so well on the HD2 is because it was prototyped on the HD2, the ROMs available now are based on those prototypes, after nodo, that also won't be the case, necessitating the making of drivers for a closed-source OS with no native SDK.
I don't want to sound negative, but my experience with WP7 is that it's not a "daily driver" on the HD2, and unlike Android on the HD2 is very much an unfinished work with an uncertain future due to Microsoft locking up the platform. It is fun to play with though, and I think you'd enjoy the HD2 in general, but if what you want is a WP7 phone, you probably should buy a WP7 phone.

I bought the HD2 for use as a student/scientist to be able to communicate with work effectively through email along with mobile office and all the great features it has. The lack of qwerty keyboard is made up for by the large screen. It gives a touch screen keyboard a lot of real estate to work with. But I just recently decided to install android on it instead of upgrading to WM7. That has made me love this phone. You can keep WM6.5 on the phone as well as install android for all the fun quirkiness you need. It has made this phone perfect for me. This phone is like a mullet: Business in the front (windows), party in the back (android, and by back I mean SD card).

I had a Desire and moved on to the HD2 about a month ago - the larger screen makes using the touch keyboard easier.
A side effect of booting Android off an SD card (as I do) is that a *full* backup of the installation can be made by simply copying the contents of the relevant directories on the SD card. Also, the data.img file (equivalent to the data partition on a phone where the O/S is installed in EEPROM) can be resized (with some care) to a larger size if needed.

Should you buy an HD2?
YES.
Firstly WP7 works properly and is EASY to activate via MS helpline.(1 phone call approx. 2 mins). There is a ton of support for you and any questions or problems you have, right here on this site.
A bit of a hack?... Yes, well this is XDA and I'm pretty sure you know that and are comfortable with it already.
WP7 on the HD2 works better (faster) than on the HD7!!!!
Secondly if you don't like WP7 as an everyday OS (are you ill?) then you can have WM6.5, Android, Ubuntu, Meego and even Win 95/98 or I think I read somewhere XP????
Why would you even ask if you should buy one?
£200 is cheap (£400+ rrp) compared to anything else on the market especially when you look at the specs and performance of those devices compared with the HD2.
I've had to upgrade my SD Card for £30, but I didn't have to fork out £300 for HD7, and I was going to upgrade anyway to fit more music on.
As for the soft keyboard...what can I say? It's bigger than the hard keys you've got at the minute and the Touch Screen works great.
The only question you should be asking is;
Why hasn't everyone got an HD2?
No matter what you prefer as an OS, the HD2 has got you covered thanks to the hard work of some great people on XDA, Cotulla and Bepe @ DFT and lots of others, too many to name here.
Essentially the HD2 will do what you want it to do when you want it to do it. And if what you want to do is sell it, for a new iPhone or HD7 (seriously, you may want to book some time with your GP), then plenty of people on here will want to buy it.
BUY... BUY... BUY....

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PloniAlmoni said:
It can run WP7, but it's a bit of a hack, you basically can't "activate" it to get apps from the marketplace or other xbox live services without calling Microsoft and getting a gullible representative on the line, which are hard to come by because by now they've mostly been briefed on this.
Also, who knows when nodo comes out in March if the old ROMs will still function indefinitely, nodo itself will have to be hacked in order for it to accept sideloading which Microsoft has stated they'd close. Also half the reason why the closed-source WP7 works so well on the HD2 is because it was prototyped on the HD2, the ROMs available now are based on those prototypes, after nodo, that also won't be the case, necessitating the making of drivers for a closed-source OS with no native SDK.
I don't want to sound negative, but my experience with WP7 is that it's not a "daily driver" on the HD2, and unlike Android on the HD2 is very much an unfinished work with an uncertain future due to Microsoft locking up the platform. It is fun to play with though, and I think you'd enjoy the HD2 in general, but if what you want is a WP7 phone, you probably should buy a WP7 phone.
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WP7 on HD2 is a hack, yes, but this is the XDA site, and if you're here, you're probably already comfortable with that fact.
WP7 works properly and is EASY to activate via MS helpline.(1 phone call approx. 2 mins). There is a ton of support for you and any questions or problems you have, right here on this site.
HD2 was the test bed for WP7 on HTC devices, and HD7 is a slightly worse re-worked version of the HD2, so any future HD7 updates will be portable to HD2 which, if experience is an indicator, will run them better than HD7.
The Chevron7 unlock guys have been talking with MS about their sideload app, and although MS are going to close the loophole, Windows is Windows...infinitely hackable.
You may not be trying to sound negative, but you're not doing a very good job.

Definitely buy a HD2 and run Android (NAND) and you'll never look back.

Hi! I'd like to buy an hd2 too. My questions (in part you have already answered) are the following: i would buy an used hd2 to run above all android (and maybe occasionally i could try wp7 or the original wm6.5). But worth buying an hd2 for an unofficial rom? and android on hd2 is stable as the official one? has it problems (maybe it freezes...)? thank you very much!!!

jackal992 said:
Hi! I'd like to buy an hd2 too. My questions (in part you have already answered) are the following: i would buy an used hd2 to run above all android (and maybe occasionally i could try wp7 or the original wm6.5). But worth buying an hd2 for an unofficial rom? and android on hd2 is stable as the official one? has it problems (maybe it freezes...)? thank you very much!!!
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Running WM6.5 I stuck with HTC ROMs, but WP7 means Custom is the new Standard. I don't know about Android, there is a seperate forum, I've never used it, too happy with WP7 (WM6.5 is also very good functionally), which works perfectly if you do it properly. See the posts on this forum about SD Cards.
In short, if you've thought about buying an HD2 you've made a mistake. JUST DO IT, you (probably) wont regret it.
I offer no guarantees on your experience when you decide to purchase. My experience has been awesome.
I am not paid by HTC to advertise their product, however if they offered to pay me, I would gladly advertise the HD2.

I have a Touch Pro & bought the HD2 about a month ago. It is a good device. In my opinion Android is not that special & WM7 is not worth the hassle.
I find Energy WM6.5.x build ROMs superb, rock solid with great GUI of sense & CHT.
The only thing better in Android is available games, Android platform itself is far from ground breaking & graphically dull as dull can get.
On screen keyboard options are good with WM although I still prefer a hard keyboard but the HD2 is good becuase of the huge screen & of course the SnapDragon.
Viewing websites is also far easier with the large screen & Opera 10 or 9.7.
You won't go far wrong with a HD2 if you are up to speed on modding WM, W7 & Android will leave you with problems (W7) or dull OS (Android).
Everyone is different but at least with the HD2 you can have many platforms in one device if you so wish.

ok. thanks a lot!! last question: i already tried to change bootloaders and roms in previuos winmo phones, luckily always all was ok. But in the hd2 is enough simple change bootloader/radio? i know that there are always risks but i've seen a lot of threads about "bricked" and "dead"/no more usable hd2. My question then is: if you follow carefully instructions of cookers is enough improbable that you brick your phone?? is this true? sorry for my bad english!
ps: can i trust buying used hd2 that already have android or however unofficial roms? This doesn't mean that these phones are "bricked", is this correct? even better then i may not have to change radio, correct? thank you very much!!

First Time
I only found out about Custom ROMs, flashing and Bootloaders 3 weeks ago, the first time I flashed everything worked. The HD2 is very stable, the ROMs on this site can be very stable.
Read the instructions carefully, make sure you have everything you need and a few hours spare to do the work. If you do this everything will be fine.
The Radio, MAGLDR and HSPL are as easy to install as a stock ROM, once you've read the instructions available.
NOW GO BUY YOUR HD2!!!!
NOW INSTALL WP7!!!

Thank you all for the replies and your be happy to know that I brought a HD2 yesterday on eBay for £177 I can't wait to get my hands on it =-D

jackal992 said:
ok. thanks a lot!! last question: i already tried to change bootloaders and roms in previuos winmo phones, luckily always all was ok. But in the hd2 is enough simple change bootloader/radio? i know that there are always risks but i've seen a lot of threads about "bricked" and "dead"/no more usable hd2. My question then is: if you follow carefully instructions of cookers is enough improbable that you brick your phone?? is this true? sorry for my bad english!
ps: can i trust buying used hd2 that already have android or however unofficial roms? This doesn't mean that these phones are "bricked", is this correct? even better then i may not have to change radio, correct? thank you very much!!
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I would prefer to buy a stock device rather than one that could of been subject to a lot of flashing ect.
Also try to buy the revision model identified by having yellow reset button rather than red.
These are reported to have better motherboards & screen assemblies (HTC revised model due to large amount of motherboard & screen fault warranty returns)
If buying used don't buy anything that sounds a bit iffy, HD2 is not a cheap or simple device to fix.

HTC HD2

Hi all!
I am new on this forum and I do not know it really good, so I like to ask some questions here (hope someone will not be angry if I missed right thread for this).
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it.
Hope you will understand my "problems", and sorry for bad English.
I would be really gratefull for any help. Thanks alot!
Best regards,
Sam.

ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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That was a very good reply. I'm currently bidding on an HD2. I have an iPhone 4, but am so bored with it. It's jailbroken to add themes right now.
My friend has an HD2 w/Windows and Android. I think that is way cool. I love to mod stuff so an iPhone for me just doesn't cut it. Although, there are a lot of good developers and applications on Cydia repositories. Anyone know if it's possible to load a mobile version of Backtrack? I see Ubuntu has been done, yes? I'm just wanting some hacking tools for pen testing. A little off topic, but...
EDIT: Anyway you should edit your title to comply with the forum rules. I just read it myself.

Look forward to this proposed HTC Pyramid, also the LG Optimus 2X looks like a cracking phone as well.

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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Robson I do not know how to thank you enough for this reply.
Now I know I will buy it definitely. First I will give a try WM 6.5 then Android 2.2 and maybe WP 7 too. Then I will choose.
So on Froyo phone works smooth, like Desire HD? I saw on WP 7 is phone really fast, but it's home screen looks so ugly for me. Hope developers will make some ROMs or skins, which will look like Android.
Thank you very much again!
Regards.

you're welcome, mate. once you get your unit fiddle around with it in wm6.5 first. don't jump to android just yet. once you're done with 6.5, get into android and i'm pretty sure you'll notice the difference in the interface. a few things to consider for the future:
- radio and rom upgrade (for wm6.5). if you do upgrade, make sure you read the threads first as you don't want to end up with a bricked phone
- android, there are lots of builds you can try and they're quite easy to do. you might notice the massive battery drain when you first try android out. but after fiddling and tweaking you'll get the right settings which will give you the best battery output
- w7, make sure you read the threads as it can be a little tricky
by the way, are you getting a t-mobile or the european version?
cheers

1)If you don't have the budget for a desire hd, get a desire then. It's better at android than the HD2. Meaning it will run smoother, faster, and all it's functions work.
Plus if you're horrible at tech stuff, eg READING! xD Then I plead for you to stay away from this phone, another thread made on questions answered a million times is not needed here. Especially this same one you posted here, sorry.
The HD2 is a good phone, but it isn't made for the half hearted. People who aren't ready to be devoted to their device should stay away from the HD2.
2)winmo isn't bad. In terms of functionality/efficiency, you could say it is ahead in some areas, and behind in others to other OSes. Apps is something you can check on your own, they have a marketplace.
3)I'm not you so i wouldn't know. But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!

Kailkti said:
But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!
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Basically, he said you are a moron. Anyway so...no just kidding dude I'm the same way, lol. Simple works for me. However, I would like to complicate things sometimes by modding. Jailbreaking is probably elementry school compared to doing Android and Windows mods which is like PhD...
@ Kailkti, Can't he have Windows 7, but still mod other OS's not interfering with his main one. So, basically he can mod break junk and then at least load up a working OS? I guess it depends on the mod, huh?

Of course he can, he can load any of the available OSes, that the devs have ported to this device, and still revert back to the WP7. However, his aim is not to mod, his aim is just something that works. Now clearly the hd2 isn't marketed to those kinds of people, nor is android. The only OSes made for the types of people who want something that just works, is iOS and WP7. They're so simple, it's baffling that their smartphone OSes. Atleast the iOS falls in that case.
And modding on the HD2 may become overwhelming to him if his attitude is just for something that simply works. Now I'm not saying winmo doesn't work. It works great. But it won't work "great" for you since, again from my impression of you, you prolly want games, and other entertainment stuff from your phone. Now android or iOS, or even WP7 is a better choice than winmo, in such a field.

Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.

Man, I can't wait to get mine. Still winning the bid on eBay!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.
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well done man, you now have 3 stable operating systems to learn, all of them with some great pros!

Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!

saMMuel'sky said:
Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!
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Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.

Thank you! I will try to fix this problem.

orangekid said:
Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.
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Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.

saMMuel'sky said:
Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.
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I've never done this before. To format the SD Card to FAT32 is easy.
1) Buy a SD Card Reader
2) Hook it up to your computer
3) Plug card in
4) Go to my computer
5) right click and select format
6) choose fat32 as the file system
7) done
Of course, they have multi-card readers. Would be better in case you ever get anything else down the line..hmm I may buy one that fits in the cd rom drive bay. I have an empty slot, would be cool and factory looking.

Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!
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lol no worries, glad you got it working.

Best choice of phone, I keep looking for a phone that runs android and wp7 and maybe windows mobile, but keep coming back to the hd2, because its the only phone that can run them all.
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