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Hello,
I had been using HTC HD2 until I bought a Nexus S. I can definitely say that the ROM Development section of SNS is very quiet. There are just a few roms.
I actually miss the activity in HD2 roms section, there were new roms every day. Most of them was themed CM / stock roms.
(there were also MIUI roms, Sense roms etc but nvm that)
I don't know how to theme everything so I prefer pre-themed roms.
What do you think about this. Don't we need pre-themed roms?
I'm just a bit bored with stock CM7 =) I need different tastes.
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Btw, I tried the themes in that topic, but I couldn't get the same results as in screenshots. I just don't know. So that's why I prefer pre-themed roms.
Quite frankly, there aren't anywhere near as many people who own the NS; with the AT&T version rumored to release soon, that could change... and if the Verizon/Sprint versions ever surface it would DEFINITELY change; but for the time being, so long as there are just a few of us out there with the device, you can expect developments to be rather slow.
I agree that when the ATT model comes out things might change. With that said I'm fairly happy with the level of support for the NS after only been released for 2 months. Also, I'm more interested in ROM and kernel developers (and super awesome voodoo developer) than theme developers.
Maybe you could find a theme in the N1 or other section you like and ask the developer to port that to the NS.
Have you tried the theme chooser app with CM7? Sonny's themes are very nice too. I'm sure someone can help you get them to work (if those were the themes to which you were referring).
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Hello,
I had been using HTC HD2 until I bought a Nexus S. I can definitely say that the ROM Development section of SNS is very quiet. There are just a few roms.
I actually miss the activity in HD2 roms section, there were new roms every day. Most of them was themed CM / stock roms.
(there were also MIUI roms, Sense roms etc but nvm that)
I don't know how to theme everything so I prefer pre-themed roms.
What do you think about this. Don't we need pre-themed roms?
I'm just a bit bored with stock CM7 =) I need different tastes.
Edit:
Btw, I tried the themes in that topic, but I couldn't get the same results as in screenshots. I just don't know. So that's why I prefer pre-themed roms.
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The HTC HD2 launched in November of 2009 in Europe, December of 2009 in Hong Kong, and March of 2010 in the US. The Nexus S launched on December 16, 2010 in the US and December 22nd, 2010 in the UK. Those are the only two countries it is currently officially available in. That means that as of yesterday this phone had two months of availability in the US and come next Tuesday the same will be true of the UK. The difference in availability to userbase alone makes it pretty clear why there would be a difference. If you wanted a device that had a lot of available ROMs buying a brand new device that hasn't even launched globally was the wrong choice.
ROM Development != ROM Theming. ROM development is actually implementing code into the ROM rather than just making the ROM look nice.
And besides, the look of Gingerbread is pretty amazing.
My personal philosophy is that, if theres a lack of something.. you could always step up and make ROMs yourself. If you don't want to, then there isn't room for someone to be complaining about the lack of development.
xmRipper said:
Hello,
I had been using HTC HD2 until I bought a Nexus S. I can definitely say that the ROM Development section of SNS is very quiet. There are just a few roms.
I actually miss the activity in HD2 roms section, there were new roms every day. Most of them was themed CM / stock roms.
(there were also MIUI roms, Sense roms etc but nvm that)
I don't know how to theme everything so I prefer pre-themed roms.
What do you think about this. Don't we need pre-themed roms?
I'm just a bit bored with stock CM7 =) I need different tastes.
Edit:
Btw, I tried the themes in that topic, but I couldn't get the same results as in screenshots. I just don't know. So that's why I prefer pre-themed roms.
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get on it...
i cant wait to try one of your roms/themes/themed roms
There aren't enough devices out there yet. I may jump on when the ATT version comes out. I'm dying to play around with the nexus s kernel and editing that battery driver to try a few things.
2 months vs. Over a year.
Just sayin
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OP...What you refer to as ROM development I call useless clutter. I'm extremely glad the Nexus S development subforum has not yet been invaded by a bunch of fools with winzip and a pirated copy of Photoshop. Let the developers develop. All that other crap belongs in Themes and Apps, for it sure isn't development by any stretch of the word.
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mhaedo said:
OP...What you refer to as ROM development I call useless clutter. I'm extremely glad the Nexus S development subforum has not yet been invaded by a bunch of fools with winzip and a pirated copy of Photoshop. Let the developers develop. All that other crap belongs in Themes and Apps, for it sure isn't development by any stretch of the word.
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AMEN!
Quantity != Quality.
The NS is still good enough for me as stock (kernel, rom) after two months. I'm not bored with it, and I don't miss anything (except a numbered battery meter) from a themed rom. I switched to Launcher Pro, but that's about it.
We've discussed this in multiple threads here already anyways. We've got koush, cyanogen, bionix, team whisky, morfic, supercurio all contributing. These are the superstars and I'd much rather have their support than dozens of others who slap a theme on some rom they "borrowed" from someone else and then call it their own.
that's exactly why Themes & Icons & stuff, should stay in the Theme & App section, and ROMs stays stock, then people can put whatever skin they want on top
not everyone likes the same thing
I got my S2 yesterday and so far, am very pleased with it. Before it, I had a ZTE Blade, which was my first smart phone.
With the blade, I was still on 2.1 when 2.3 came out, my network provider put a load of garbage on the phone that really slowed it down, not to mention taking up valueable space. Bascially, there was an endless list of problems that needed addressing. As a consequence, I started trying out custom ROMs almost as soon as I got the phone.
With the S2 however, I ditched the standard launcher, put on ADW EX, switched in a number of apps instead of the Samsung defaults, but I can't say I've found any significant bugs yet that make me thing I need to go custom.
Everything just works (let's hope it stays that way!), which is a world away from where I was with my old Blade.
With that in mind, why do you use a custom ROM? I think it can be split into two areas, bug fixes, and nice additions. From my reading so far:
Bug fixes:
Shutter lag on the camera?
Nice additions:
Bettery battery life through new kernals
ICS! (ok this is a big one, if Samsung is slow with their update and there's a custom ROM that works well, that will probably be enough to tempt me)
Notification lights (I don't understand why all phones don't have this by default, I fell in love with it on my old Nokia 6300 and the blinking red light is ever present on my work Blackberry)
Deeper theming - I do miss my circular battery indicator
I'm sure you guys will help me add to the list. The thing is, what is the cost? With my Blade, I craved a phone that was fast and reliable. I seem to have that now, and if the custom ROMs introduce their own bugs or decrease stability, I don't think it will be worth it for me.
Let me know your thoughts, I'm not trying to start a flame war. This community is a lot bigger with so many more projects and ROMs going on, I'm struggling to get a handle on it all. Hopefully this will help!
I wouldn't buy Android if it wasn't for customisation through roms...that's what makes Android special!
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If we had not way to change roms, probably I had not bought an Android's phone.
I like to do it, i'm curious like every us!
Same as the answer i gave to the same question six months ago .
I want what i want not what you want on my phone .
Why is a question and therefore in the wrong forum .
jje
JJEgan said:
Why is a question and therefore in the wrong forum .
jje
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Well, it's not a technical how do I do X question, but more of a general one, so I thought it was best here. I'm sure a mod will move the thread if they disagree with me.
To get
Better GPS performance.
Better general performance.
Better battery life.
No double click voice control.
No battery charge sound.
More animations.
Another theme.
It's like getting a new phone.
because I can
Because some freaking genius creat them from what the fcuking idiots from samsung made.
Because RACEPHONE!
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Just a few months ago I bought myself an iPod touch... I was thrilled with it! it was my first "real" mp3 player since my sony NW-HD5...
I Jailbreaked it... but it wasnt enough..
I waited to see how the iPhone 4S would come along.. and when it did I suddenly realized something..
People who buy Apple products are often ready to feel their products are outdated the next year...
Sure enough, Apple's hardware specs are "inferior" than most of the high end android devices.. but as we know their iOS is optimized to squeeze the most juice out of it.. until it gets unsupported...
So thats one of the main reasons I bought and Android phone, and customize it to its fullest... Today my hardware works.. OK.. but in the future, with better ROMS, more optimized to the specific hardware.. my device will be more alive than ever..
So basically... Apple devices just get worse with time... Instead.. Android can only get better.
Gnarfsan said:
To get
Better GPS performance.
Better general performance.
Better battery life.
No double click voice control.
No battery charge sound.
More animations.
Another theme.
It's like getting a new phone.
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most of the mods in your list can be achieved by jkay super awesome work. You dont need an entire rom for it. I can understand a kernel affecting battery life but how does a rom do it? (apart from swapping a few apks out?)
trungdaika said:
Because some freaking genius creat them from what the fcuking idiots from samsung made.
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really? what do you think these custom roms are based on? leak from samsung only
The voice of reason finally shouts at the general populace.
$1 gets you a reply
watsa said:
most of the mods in your list can be achieved by jkay super awesome work. You dont need an entire rom for it. I can understand a kernel affecting battery life but how does a rom do it? (apart from swapping a few apks out?)
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You can do all of the tweaks that you can think of without a custom ROM. But the beauty of using a ROM instead of doing it yourself is that you get a full package of what the developers could think of and all the feedback from the users. So its a base to proceed your modding from. You also don't have to deodex the ROM yourself for easier modding.
Regarding battery life, it comes from bloatware and excessive logging that has been removed. Often ROM makers will also replace some of the stock apps with more battery efficient ones. For instance swapping apps that through a bug keeps the phone awake.
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I get bored with stock Android and I was looking for something new. Since SGS2 is still the best phone available, I flashed custom roms and I am sorry I didn't do that before - it is much better now.
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really? what do you think these custom roms are based on? leak from samsung only
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I said the create the best custom roms from stock roms full of sh!t that Samsung put in.
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I said the create the best custom roms from stock roms full of sh!t that Samsung put in.
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i fail fo understand what do you find ****ty in a samsung rom?
yes they could have made it more customizable like sense but thats about it. All custom rom chefs do is customize the sammy rom more. look at the features
mms removed from logs - i am sure most of us dont want it but there are some who use it. Understand samsung is creating this to please everyone.
I can give more examples. Moral of the story is lets credit the super devs here but lets not take credit away from samsung. They have done a decent job with this phone in all departments.
good question
I use custom roms on my SGS2 simple because I can...
Choice is an Android Thing
Because I want a change once in a while. It's like a getting new phone everytime.
Hello Folks,
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
We have got fully working CM9 and CM10 on Galaxy SL, with few minor issues with video recording and laggy interface. However, we are working on porting the new 3.0.8 kernel that was released on omapzoom. This new kernel would help us resolve issues that we have been affecting ICS and JB releases.
So far, we have managed to get the kernel booting with few basic stuff like Touchscreen, Panel, Audio, Keypad, Vibrator working. Galaxy SL is exactly similar to Galaxy Tab P1010 WIFI and it essentially shares the same kernel and I suspect that most of the userspace stuff also should be the same. I was informally asked by cdesai if I was interested to develop for this device, but I had to turn my back since I wasn't really having the time for it.
However, since we are working on a new kernel for Galaxy SL from scratch, I would really like to take the initiative of making something useful for P1010 too, keeping in mind the small user base for Galaxy SL, we thought our work could be useful for P1010 and would benefit more people.
We would like developers working on P1010 to come forward and let us know the current status of development on this device (Kernels, Custom Roms, Attempts at CM, etc), so that we could plan something accordingly. Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
Sources for Galaxy SL
Stable CM9 and CM10
Kernel: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Device: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_device_samsung_galaxysl
Experimental 3.0 Kernel
https://github.com/dhiru1602/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Thank you!
Let's do it people, I'm willing to help dhiru as well.
I'm in too
@dhiru (Y)
This is fantastic news, and thanks for considering the P1010 as everywhere else I've looked hasn't really got anywhere. While I'm afraid I won't be able to help with any of the development (I wish I could, but I'm too busy as it is), I can use my device for testing. Keep it up, and I can't wait until it's all sorted.
Personally, I'd love to have any version of CM on this tablet, as Android 2.3.6 is looking really dated now, and the interface is laggy compared to that of Android 4.1 devices. I've upgraded to CM10 on my Galaxy S and it's so much smoother than it was, I can only hope the same is possible for this device, as it's certainly capable.
Also, I know Motofoca over on the MadTeam forums was working on it (which you already know, most likely), but he's not mentioned anything towards progress in a while. I can't post a link though, considering I've got less than 10 posts, so you'll have to google it.
Any help I can give is gladly offered, now when it comes to coding I am rusty... In fact I think the rust has extra layers of rust but know what I am looking at and can spot the bugs and offer suggestions.
I have two of these and still think the actual build of them is excellent so would love to have some decent internals
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Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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P1010 here !
Greets from Perú
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I have a P1010 and I also like to help!!!
I wanna help too!
P1010 here! Can't Dev but will gladly test!
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I've got a 1010. I'm a themer, not a dev though..
i have it too. i'am an Indonesian.
friesoft said:
I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..
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I don't know whether this was a typo or not, but you can get CM10 or CM9.1 (stable) for the P1000 already. Just look on the cyanogenmod site for the P1. This is for the P1010 which is the WIFI only version of that tab and doesn't yet have a release of cyanogenmod for it.
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I've been waiting for this, I can test on my p1010
dhiru1602 said:
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
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Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
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Thank you!
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Hi, I have it. I also have some experience with kernel on Omap4 (I developed for 3.0.x and 3.2.x), but very little time to share at the moment.
Please post here in this thread any update or request.
Thanks
P1010 here also. Plenty of processing power and a website for storage and distribution...
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I'm also willing to test. These tabs are great, just not many developers working with them.
p1010 with cm10
Looking forward to trying their huge creations from Ecuador ... CMs for the P1010, do not let this device die. Sorry for my English, I hope this well written ..
Hello guys, I also have a P1010! maybe I can help you as a tester, I have experience with flashing and rooting
Hello,
I would like to download and install a custom ROM for my Galaxy S4 I9505.
Here is the list of desirables for it:
Ultra stable.
Buttery smooth 0 lag.
NOT TouchWiz based.
MUST have all Galaxy S4 features like air gestures, air view, smart stay/pause and so on.
MUST support LTE.
MUST have all working features!
MUST include (or support) the default Galaxy S4 camera app.
Yes I have looked on XDA and galaxys4root.com to try and find it myself but galaxys4root.com is limited and XDA has way too many to sift through and narrow down, I'm not just lazy!
All help on this is appreciated, if this ROM doesn't actually exist yet, get making it because it's the perfect combination!
Thank you to the mastermind who finds a ROM fit for my specification
While I agree I would like to have such Rom, true fact is that it does simply not exist.
andymihail said:
While I agree I would like to have such Rom, true fact is that it does simply not exist.
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Damn... Such a shame. If I knew how to make a decent ROM I'd do it myself!
A-Sweaty-Wombat said:
Damn... Such a shame. If I knew how to make a decent ROM I'd do it myself!
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There are some good roms around that come close to what you want. Just try a few and maybe use a custom kernel and you`ll find the right combo to suits your needs. Looking for that is part of the fun
gee2012 said:
There are some good roms around that come close to what you want. Just try a few and maybe use a custom kernel and you'll find the right combo to suits your needs. Looking for that is part of the fun
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I'm very picky unfortunately... I don't understand why there isn't yet a ROM that has a nice sleek UI, is blazingly fast and has an insane amount of features including Samsung features like air view/gestures etc.
I also get bored of ROMs and kernels very quickly because I miss one thing or another :/
A-Sweaty-Wombat said:
I'm very picky unfortunately... I don't understand why there isn't yet a ROM that has a nice sleek UI, is blazingly fast and has an insane amount of features including Samsung features like air view/gestures etc.
I also get bored of ROMs and kernels very quickly because I miss one thing or another :/
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There are: like Omega v11 is very good and customisable, Android Revolution is close to stock with tweaks, Wanam Lite is good. You have to try them yourself bro cause everyone has a different setup and needs.
There is no 'prefect' ROM as everyone has needs and wants, in order to find the ROM that best fits your needs and wants you will have to try them all with the many different kernels. Me I only use deviant development roms, and pacman or domination (they are merging so doesn't matter.) But others may only use cynanogen because we all like something different and have found our 'perfect' ROMs
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I'm just curious, but what makes the Omega Rom so damn popular and successfull? Most Roms have the same features and even more + some apps on Omega cost money....
This isn't meant as a hate thread, I'm just wondering and maybe I'm missing something.
Stability, battery life, performance. This is what most users look in a rom.
I guess Omega offers all of this and more
GDReaper said:
Stability, battery life, performance. This is what most users look in a rom.
I guess Omega offers all of this and more
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That's true but almost all half decent roms offer this nowadays
It's marketing. Nothing more.
Hi mates,
care in what is done, great support , team work.....and what i think is the most important aspect people participates a lot in their different threads which helps make it better..
word of mouth marketing.....yes sure
Basically every TW based rom in the Android Development section has no significante change to the stock rom Samsung released. Mostly it are all roms with a few apps removed, a few apps added, maybe a different kernel and a different theme. Little coding, so not much difference between them (there are exceptions).
Usually the thread with the most shiny images gets the most people. But I think the strength of Omega is in making people that are new to flashing to chose for his rom.
The real coding takes places in the Original Android Development section where roms are coded from scratch.
Hi,
Fame is fame, it doesn't mean a product is better than another. Let's take Apple iPhone for example, its fame is beyond the level of, let's say, HTC One, however you cannot guarantee one is better than the other.
I believe you should give a try if you think it's worth your time, if not search for another ROM .
All the best,
~Lord