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Comparisons between GB and ICS...What is your overall opinion so far?

Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks

The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..

Prasad007 said:
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?

Neo3000 said:
I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...

I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui

One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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anshmiester78900 said:
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.

Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
jje

Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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ephraim033 said:
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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eamon0989 said:
I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.

ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje

I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds

theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now

Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/

dzel said:
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.

I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.

GamerzRom ICS

We want to make a teamhacksung ics version with gaming mode. Just for the try.
Ice cream sandwich has great imporivements about rendering. But ram is crazy low for games. With gaming mode we will avoid this.
If you want to try an ics version of gamerzrom please vote here.

Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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Furkan1993.kok said:
Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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We work hard for the scripts. We need a huge process name and apk name list for it. It will be good in ICS.

Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD

TigerCourage said:
Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD
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My girlfriend is more clever than me. She doesn't have an android but we will buy a sgs2 her in a few days. She will be better than me on this job.

Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!

Wouldn' t be a CM7.1 version better?
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burakgon said:
Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!
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Maybe a MIUI v4 version ? Good UI with Good Performances is better

Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.

parhelion69 said:
Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Agree with this
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parhelion69 said:
Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Totally agree.

Not yet ,, let ICS Finally version come out first

Also I think it's better to wait for ICS. For now let's focus on JVU...

ICS : too early, JVU would be better.
Hi Burakgon,
It is indeed to soon to try to work on ICS.
ICS versions are not fully working, not mature and not ready yet.
Your JVU work is very good, and it would be better to carry on JVU.
Anyway, your the one to decide.
Thanks you very much for all the great improvements on JVU, and the upcoming Version 3.
Cheers.

Just two things to consider, Burakgon.
First of all, the ICS roms are still not entirely stable so it might be a good idea to wait for maybe build 16 or above to be released.
Secondly, gaming on CM9 beta 14 is actually really smooth, albeit not as smooth as on your JVU gaming rom. For example, I can play shadowgun and gta without lags on beta 14. So, even though ICS has less free ram, it is somehow able to manage the ram well enough such that the games run fine. Nonetheless, it would be great to have an ICS gaming rom, as compared to gingerbread, since ICS has so many more features anyway.

an ICS gamerzrom would be great!!
(i'd prefered it based on onecosmic's ics but that's another story )
however, if going to ICS means less support for the GB version of your rom, i'd stick to GB...

i wonder what you guys talking about, useing th b14 with perkas mod since a week,
not a single force close or reboot, everything runs great would never switch back to samsung stock based roms

yes please, more ICS on I9000

As said by a few others, ICS is probable not the best way to go quite yet, give it a while to stabalise first.

no yet , its a good idee to create a gamezone ics , but ics have bugs , i think that are better for you to wait 1 month until its release a stable version of ics , with no bugs or with less bugs (sorry for my english if are mistakes)

ICS

Is there an official release on a Samsung ICS update or are we dependent on outside sources for ICS on the tablet. This tablet is near unusable with Gingerbread and an extremely frustrating experience.

jaewon223 said:
Is there an official release on a Samsung ICS update or are we dependent on outside sources for ICS on the tablet. This tablet is near unusable with Gingerbread and an extremely frustrating experience.
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Honeycomb not gingerbread
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Enough this kind of threads , every day allot of threads starts to ask same question ,
please use search function ​or just read the first page of the thread, you will find allot of threads about ICS

Although this thread is unneeded, it does baffle me that there has been no word on an official release.

hoss_n2 said:
Enough this kind of threads , every day allot of threads starts to ask same question ,
please use search function ​or just read the first page of the thread, you will find allot of threads about ICS
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trust me this is not the worst...people are really getting annoyed and there isn't ics yet
Towle said:
Although this thread is unneeded, it does baffle me that there has been no word on an official release.
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ikr...where are the leaks?

jaewon223 said:
Is there an official release on a Samsung ICS update or are we dependent on outside sources for ICS on the tablet. This tablet is near unusable with Gingerbread and an extremely frustrating experience.
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The difference between HC (which is what you meant) and ICS isn't as earth shattering as people expect it to be. ICS for phones and tablets was built on the 3.0 source. HC has had h/w acceleration (which is the biggest benefit to 2.X users) since it was launched. The UI's been cleaned up and there's some additional features but that's about it. The Prime was launched with HC and upgraded to ICS and most of the discussion was on what was hosed not any dramatic improvements. Now for people moving from 2.3 to 4.0 (ICS) than yes, there's are big and noticeable improvements.
3.2 is certainly usable for me and I don't find it particularly frustrating. The Teg2 chip has limitations and Android itself can be frustrating but ICS isn't going to change that.

ICS makes your whole experience on this tablet a lot better. Maybe because the Prime is quad-core and differences may not be noticeable?

ICS on the tab makes a world of difference. So much so that im willing to forfeit the cameras.

I messaged them yesterday outta boredom and the answer was as expected ...
Ronny Cain > Samsung Canada - What's going on with the status for ice cream sandwitch for tablets and other devices ?
Samsung Canada - Ronny, we don't currently have a hard date we can share with you for the Ice Cream Sandwich update, but we know it's not too far off. Thanks for your patience.

bertiespeed said:
I messaged them yesterday outta boredom and the answer was as expected ...
Ronny Cain > Samsung Canada - What's going on with the status for ice cream sandwitch for tablets and other devices ?
Samsung Canada - Ronny, we don't currently have a hard date we can share with you for the Ice Cream Sandwich update, but we know it's not too far off. Thanks for your patience.
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You should have said this is the year the Earth ends, so you would at least like to see what it was like before that happened

jaewon223 said:
Is there an official release on a Samsung ICS update or are we dependent on outside sources for ICS on the tablet. This tablet is near unusable with Gingerbread and an extremely frustrating experience.
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yes, with Gingerbread this tablet is near unusable . try HC for a change...

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Enough this kind of threads , every day allot of threads starts to ask same question
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Agreed. A dead forum is much better!

this forum never dies though ._.

Jay Rock said:
ICS makes your whole experience on this tablet a lot better. Maybe because the Prime is quad-core and differences may not be noticeable?
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I have an HP touchpad running CM9 ICS, a 16gb Gtab10.1 running CM9 ICS, and a 32gb Gtab 10.1 running the latest HC 3.2 (Overcome ROM), and honestly, I haven't noticed much difference in the "whole experience" between the ICS and HC. Maybe I'll run some more benchmarks, but I know the quadrant scores on the two were about the same. Though I guess I should try streaming HD video to the Gtab, and see if that's better on ICS.
Maybe samsung will add their own "spin" on ICS when they build it, but compared to the generic form of ICS, I'd bet that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between HC and ICS.

mike-y said:
I have an HP touchpad running CM9 ICS, a 16gb Gtab10.1 running CM9 ICS, and a 32gb Gtab 10.1 running the latest HC 3.2 (Overcome ROM), and honestly, I haven't noticed much difference in the "whole experience" between the ICS and HC. Maybe I'll run some more benchmarks, but I know the quadrant scores on the two were about the same. Though I guess I should try streaming HD video to the Gtab, and see if that's better on ICS.
Maybe samsung will add their own "spin" on ICS when they build it, but compared to the generic form of ICS, I'd bet that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between HC and ICS.
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Yeah you shouldn't rely on quadrant scores man.

mike-y said:
I haven't noticed much difference in the "whole experience" between the ICS and HC.
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Dianne Hackborn is a Google engineer and periodically writes about various features/issues with the OS. Here's an excerpt from one of her blogs...
"Full" hardware accelerated drawing within a window was added in Android 3.0. The implementation in Android 4.0 is not any more full than in 3.0. Starting with 3.0, if you set the flag in your app saying that hardware accelerated drawing is allowed, then all drawing to the application’s windows will be done with the GPU. The main change in this regard in Android 4.0 is that now apps that are explicitly targeting 4.0 or higher will have acceleration enabled by default rather than having to put android:handwareAccelerated="true" in their manifest. (And the reason this isn’t just turned on for all existing applications is that some types of drawing operations can’t be supported well in hardware and it also impacts the behavior when an application asks to have a part of its UI updated. Forcing hardware accelerated drawing upon existing apps will break a significant number of them, from subtly to significantly.)
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
Other than tweaks, enhancements, and some new features there's little difference between ICS and 3.X. Reports of ICS greatly improving performance are exaggerated. Phones are different because 2.X didn't fully support h/w acceleration so their gains are far more significant.

Jay Rock said:
Yeah you shouldn't rely on quadrant scores man.
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while quadrant may not be perfect, it's a tool one can use to gauge relative performance out of a device. The reason I ran the quadrant test in the first place, was because I didn't perceive a noticeable performance increase on ICS on the GTab (and quadrant seems to back this up).
So these people claiming that the user experience is so much better on ICS are either coming from gingerbread, or (probably) have a bad installation of Honeycomb (or maybe they have a lot of bloatware?).
as Barry H explained, the two OS's aren't as different as people think. That said, I do like ICS a little bit better, as there are a few (minor) differences in the UI.

mike-y said:
while quadrant may not be perfect, it's a tool one can use to gauge relative performance out of a device. The reason I ran the quadrant test in the first place, was because I didn't perceive a noticeable performance increase on ICS on the GTab (and quadrant seems to back this up).
So these people claiming that the user experience is so much better on ICS are either coming from gingerbread, or (probably) have a bad installation of Honeycomb (or maybe they have a lot of bloatware?).
as Barry H explained, the two OS's aren't as different as people think. That said, I do like ICS a little bit better, as there are a few (minor) differences in the UI.
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BarryH just reads a lot. Dianne Hackborn "explains." Comparing stock HC with a lean AOSP ICS ROM isn't really fair; of course there will be peformance differences. Comparing a tweaked 3.2 ROM with ICS would be a better example.

GB 2.3.x vs ICS 4.0.X ?

Hello my fellow flashing friends!
Is it me or is ICS a bit overrated ? I tried several ICS roms, and apart from the buggy (video)camera still I admit it's not bad, in fact yes, it's quite good and very smooth. But can anyone give me one good reason why a good ICS rom would be BETTER than a good GB ROM ?
Except for being able to "say" that you are running the latest android version, and a few other transition effects in ICS (ok I know there's a bit more to it but you know what I mean) I don't see what would make ICS the better choice over GB.
So far GB can do everything what ICS can do afaik, in the end probably even better (especially for us DHD users). So tell me your motivations why you would run an ICS rom and not a GB one ?
There are many excellent GB roms such as ARHD, CoreDroid, Runnymede, MIUI roms, CM7, etc that in the end imo outclass the ICS ones a bit still..
The only reason I can think of I'd flash an ICS rom for some while is to have something "different" again, but in the end I seem to get back to the good ol' GB everytime..
So tell me your motivations why you'd go for ICS rom or why for GB rom!

Lol, ICS hasn't even come officially to the DHD so you can't compare official GB and ported ICS, GB is going to be extinct once ICS comes offcially
ARHD for example, is official GB and that's way more smoother and performance/batterywise. So GB for now, ICS when it comes offcially

ICS roms are fully functional on DHD already apart of videocamera ofcourse.. But ok even if we take i.e. a Galaxy Nexus then, what's better about it than the DHD with a smooth GB rom ?
It's just something I am trying to figure out.

I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.

Bert2662 said:
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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Right now using the CM9 rom ported by jcmaddox, with blackened ice theme + htc keyboard + working camera and videocamera (but this one lags a bit in 720p), feels pretty nice. But I'm a Sense addict so from the moment a Sense 4.0 rom is available with working camera I will go for that one probably.

ICS = new, nuff said.

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ICS = new, nuff said.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.

I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
Maxy
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MaxyDad said:
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.

if you just have to flash a rom as of today... gingerbread big time!
However, many ics innovations (and honeycomb) are developers side. ics brought many new cool features for developing much better applications. And if it's true that iOS fortune is its apps quality and variety, then android is moving in the right direction, giving developers a much better, and appealing environment to work in. So in a not too far future you'll need ics as minimum requirement to run the most cool applications on your android. And they are gonna kick ass, making of your phone an awesome device. till that day you can always stick with gingerbread . do not forget that gingerbread took over froyo as most used android operating system only in december (2011) so most of apps have been developed with that in mind so far. (backward compatibility etc...)
cheers!

personally, since switching to pics from GB, I couldn't imagine running another GB from as my daily. While ICS might not do anything particularly better than GB on the DHD or Inspire, it certainly seems to do all of the things nicer. Simple little features like folders and recent apps windows may not seem that important if you haven't used them, but once you get used to the interface, ICS aosp experience blows GB's out of the water in my opinion. Now if we're talking sense or some other manufacturer overlay it may not be the same, but as far as stock goes I LOVE ics
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
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I think you're probably right about the stock browser. It isn't quite as responsive as the GB one, but it seems to add some nice functionality. The main shortcoming for me though (and I say this quietly) is the camera, or lack thereof. Will get fixed in due course.
Overall, ICS is actually better than I expected.
Maxy
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I was an avid user of ARHD before I switched to IceColdSandwich, now I can't turn back. ICS is smoother, faster and has essentially doubled my battery usage from barely a day to two full days.
I tried the One X ports but they have a terrible battery life and lack AOKP's features. ATM I couldn't be happier with ICS.

ICS is great but then there are a few limitation when you try to get ICS on our phone. ICS is fast, smooth and even better with battery but then a GB ROM would probably give you more functional phone.
Basically depends upon whether you can live without those few features. I f you can ICS should be the way to go. There's a slight catch though DHD isnt really the latest of all devices, so devs would concentrate on the development of ROMs for the new devices. (Lord and Twisted both have moved out DHD ICS development scene but there are still a few great devs working), so regular updates would come less often.
and GB is mature and stable (with almost no updates required).

Yeah the stability is a big issue for me as well, my GPS was working perfectly til I switched over to Ice Cold Sandwich on my DHD.
Although I was able to fix it using a patch, I find GB roms have less problems in the internal side of things...
No doubt ICS feels nicer to have on your phone though
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Google Chrome support, folders, smoother, optimized, easier to use. Nuff said

Not to forget HID Support with BT and with Sense

I find that ICS has more to offer feature wise, however I am new to this and haven't had the chance to test many GB ROMs.
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wtr_dhd said:
Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
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gimme one reason to choose GB over ICS when sense 4 is fully ported to DHD...

Ics has a lot of new features and is worth it. But i don't see why you made this thread if your shooting down peoples opinions on the matter
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Android 4.1.1 / Cyanogenmod 10 - Your impressions

I want to know what you guys think of the new Jellybean ROMs that we've all been blessed with. Are you happy with it? Any comments, anything? Just wanted to hear what you all think about the new OS on our tablets.
Personally I love it more than anything. Honeycomb and ICS have been nothing but pure lag, from stock ROMs to custom ROMs. I never thought I'd see the day this tablet actually performed smoothly, so when Jellybean first arrived (and pretty damn fast, as well), I was excited. Tried the ROM and loved it, it's just ridiculously smooth, and it works. Now I still get lag playing MC3 or Monster Life, but those are heavy games and Gameloft is pretty ****ty when it comes to properly making an Android game so that's excused. But other games like Dead Trigger work without a hitch, and emulators no longer suffer either. And just for being Android, it gets even better since I can use a wireless mouse over USB OTG, a BT keyboard, and a PS3 controller for games and emulators. All thanks to Jellybean, my tablet is awesome now
And also a thanks to MapleSyrup and pershoot, for the two that gave us Jellybean ROMs at all

Yes, i like cyanogenmod 10, it's smooth and I haven't really noticed any over the top bugs...Battery life could be better but i prefer to sacrifice battery for that smoothness... And now that leads me to Samsung and their ****ty update plan...I mean come on i have waited 8 months to get ICS that lags like hell and doesn't play youtube videos correctly?...They should have just skipped ICS and focus on jelly bean...Other tablets are getting jellybean and we just got ICS, wonder how much will it take them to provide the stock jellybean...another 8 months?(i'm a fan of touchwiz that's why i *****...and i don't want a 7 inch tablet(nexus 7)).

I Skype lots so need a working camera. Can't wait till CM10 has the camera driver. Any word on wheh this can be expected ?

I have cm10 and it seems so fast but a Quadrant test must tell it's value...the previous tests show that ICS is faster but JB's graphics are better...
Now that the rear camera is working the ROM is worth flashing(I never use the camera but couldn't bear it's loss...).
What do you TouchWiz fans think about putting it on the JB?it seems possible,doesn't it?let me know... ...

arashtarafar said:
I have cm10 and it seems so fast but a Quadrant test must tell it's value...the previous tests show that ICS is faster but JB's graphics are better...
Now that the rear camera is working the ROM is worth flashing(I never use the camera but couldn't bear it's loss...).
What do you TouchWiz fans think about putting it on the JB?it seems possible,doesn't it?let me know... ...
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The reason Quadrant scores are lower in JB is because JB puts the UI at a higher priority, basically to keep the whole thing smooth. Antutu's latest update takes that into account and as far as I know, it's the only benchmark app that has been updated for Jellybean.

I keep installing ROMs on here to find the smoothest reliable ICS or JB, and CM10 is working beautifully for me. I especially like the subtle mods, like weather on the lock screen, email count in status bar, ability to enter settings without the app you were in being closed by the system, three action lockscren... the list goes on.
Definitely gets my vote unless you can't live without camera.
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Nacho Zits said:
I Skype lots so need a working camera. Can't wait till CM10 has the camera driver. Any word on wheh this can be expected ?
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Same here. I won't flash until we have a working front camera either. Hopefully it's done soon...

I would like to know why data package is not supported on gsm I try to pay data for my tab and once I received confirmation of the debit my tab keeps displaying no internet connection it only allows to navigate through the WiFi does any one knows how to fix it...
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I'm very happy with CMX. I'm glad I like it because I'm having a lot of trouble trying to go to other ROMs right now for the sake of checking them out - but I'll tell ya, there are probably way worse ROMs to be stuck on! I also have CMX on my S2 and am so in love with JB I don't know if I want to go back from a daily driver perspective.

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Same here. I won't flash until we have a working front camera either. Hopefully it's done soon...
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I actually used CM10 Preview by pershoot and was highly impressed by the performance and smoothness. However, I recently started to require skyping for work related meetings so had to switch back to ICS 4.0.4. When JB works with front camera, expect me to be the first in line.
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Android 4.1.1? which one? confused like hell!?
Maybe it is only me confused here. and this is my first post, so be gentle
so I got excited when Samsung finally release Android 4.0.4!, could not wait so I downloaded UK Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi (I have US one).
all good, but still not smooth, slow, then realize we need Android 4.1.1 (I have Google Nexus 7)...so jumped here, checking JB ROMs. that's when I start get confused. which one should I download that has less bug? Android 4.1.1 - CyanogenMod 10? or Toldo's JellyBeanRom ICS v5? or MapleSyrup's JellyBeanRom ICS? when you read each post (usually hundreds of replies), you even got more confused...
don't take me wrong, I love what our developer is giving us! even if this my first post, I already donated. however, it would be so helpful if there's new thread that lists all JB ROMs, and clearly outlines what works and what does not works, of any additional fixes. Now my galaxy tab 10.1 sitting there, staring at me, and dying to get on JB
Cheers to all:good:
J.

I've been using CM10 builds from Pershoot and I've been really pleased. Fast, responsive, and all the apps I use day-to-day work beautifully. Battery life is trouble-free. I do occasionally get lockups, but I'm too lazy to try to identify how -- a lot of the time, it's opening large PDFs. Otherwise, most tasks are trouble-free. Rear cam works beautifully.
Unfortunately, I'm cursed with an SCH-i905 -- and no 4G LTE until Samsung gets off their ass and releases source that pershoot can merge. When that day comes, I will wet my pants in excitement.
I have a 4G LTE phone as well, so I just tether the tablet, and life is grand... but I sure would love to have it natively working on my tab. For a few months I had to revert back to stock HC on it because I needed the 4G... now that I've switched back to CM, I've been very happy.

Caede said:
I've been using CM10 builds from Pershoot and I've been really pleased. Fast, responsive, and all the apps I use day-to-day work beautifully. Battery life is trouble-free. I do occasionally get lockups, but I'm too lazy to try to identify how -- a lot of the time, it's opening large PDFs. Otherwise, most tasks are trouble-free. Rear cam works beautifully.
Unfortunately, I'm cursed with an SCH-i905 -- and no 4G LTE until Samsung gets off their ass and releases source that pershoot can merge. When that day comes, I will wet my pants in excitement.
I have a 4G LTE phone as well, so I just tether the tablet, and life is grand... but I sure would love to have it natively working on my tab. For a few months I had to revert back to stock HC on it because I needed the 4G... now that I've switched back to CM, I've been very happy.
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so CM10 build that you use is from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787399
it is safe to say that I can flash my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi (which is now on stock android 4.0.4) with CM10 build, and all works perfect no issue other than front camera?

djmatt604 said:
I'm very happy with CMX. I'm glad I like it because I'm having a lot of trouble trying to go to other ROMs right now for the sake of checking them out - but I'll tell ya, there are probably way worse ROMs to be stuck on! I also have CMX on my S2 and am so in love with JB I don't know if I want to go back from a daily driver perspective.
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It is CM10, even the developers hate to hear it called CMX... This is Android, not Crapple!
For me, it is running great on both my tablet and my phone minus the occasional scrambled boot on my tablet (never happened on cm9 or any other roms) which I still get after updating to the official ICS boot loaders. But, it seems way more polished and complete then the early versions of CM9. I have made it my daily driver on both devices. Battery life is better than 4.0.4 also as long as you turn off Google now and so e of the location services. It will only get better with time...

BAHA - Crapple.
Yeah sorry about that - it does say CM10 in my sig, I just got lazy typing last night. My bad.

bkress said:
It is CM10, even the developers hate to hear it called CMX... This is Android, not Crapple!
For me, it is running great on both my tablet and my phone minus the occasional scrambled boot on my tablet (never happened on cm9 or any other roms) which I still get after updating to the official ICS boot loaders. But, it seems way more polished and complete then the early versions of CM9. I have made it my daily driver on both devices. Battery life is better than 4.0.4 also as long as you turn off Google now and so e of the location services. It will only get better with time...
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So Crappie owns the letter X? I use it as a roman numeral when abbreviating CM.
Also, I'm curious, what difference do the ICS bootloader provide? Is it a noticeable improvement?

GazaIan said:
So Crappie owns the letter X? I use it as a roman numeral when abbreviating CM.
Also, I'm curious, what difference do the ICS bootloader provide? Is it a noticeable improvement?
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Haha, of course they don't own it... I just heard entropy tell someone in another thread not to call it cmx Since the boot animation that coined the cmx name is in no way official and they (cm10 dev team) have never called it that. If people are searching for answers about cm10 and people are calling it cmx, it may confuse users and make them think cmx is something different. We all know it is not, but we should all be using the real name for consistency purposes, right? I didn't mean to be an a**, just stating the facts.

Whereas CM10 is still in alpha stage, I can say that it works very well! This promises to be the best ROM.:laugh:

I was running MapleSyrup's AOSP JellyBean build for about a week and then switched over to pershoot's CM10. While I found they were very similar I stuck with CM10 because it feels a bit smoother. I had a little issue with a scrambled screen when booting where only for a second or two the screen was rolling but cleared up afterwards. I did not have a rolling recovery screen. I updated the bootloader to the ICS version and it's been great since. I also haven't had any SOD's either when charging overnight or just sitting there.
The only issue which I still have is Youtube HD videos get very choppy and this happened on both JB builds.
But another good news tidbit is that HBO GO was updated to support JB and that was the only thing I was missing since running an ICS rom. And it seems to work perfectly!
So, thanks go out to Maple and pershoot and all the other devs out there that contribute to getting us up to speed. I was just over my dad's house and updated his GTab to ICS for him and all the while I was chuckling because I've been running JellyBean for a while before he even got ICS!

rpoitras said:
I was running MapleSyrup's AOSP JellyBean build for about a week and then switched over to pershoot's CM10. While I found they were very similar I stuck with CM10 because it feels a bit smoother. I had a little issue with a scrambled screen when booting where only for a second or two the screen was rolling but cleared up afterwards. I did not have a rolling recovery screen. I updated the bootloader to the ICS version and it's been great since. I also haven't had any SOD's either when charging overnight or just sitting there.
The only issue which I still have is Youtube HD videos get very choppy and this happened on both JB builds.
But another good news tidbit is that HBO GO was updated to support JB and that was the only thing I was missing since running an ICS rom. And it seems to work perfectly!
So, thanks go out to Maple and pershoot and all the other devs out there that contribute to getting us up to speed. I was just over my dad's house and updated his GTab to ICS for him and all the while I was chuckling because I've been running JellyBean for a while before he even got ICS!
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I am on MapleSyrup's AOSP JellyBean, and you said "updated the bootloader to the ICS version"? I am a little confused. .how do you do that? what the benefit? I am assuming when you said bootloader to ICS version, you meant latest ICS stock?