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Evo bottom line

I have read so many complaints and rants and raves. But all in all have seen most of them fixed with roms and kernels. This is a pretty pointless post but I just wanted to see one with people that are happy with their evos. I got mine at bb on launch day and still rocking it.
Sent from my Evo using XDA app.

Happy? I just proposed to my Evo.

Although nothing will beat my first phone (Sanyo VM4500)...the EVO is the 2nd best phone I have owned

++ I got mine on day one. Just did OTA updates and turn off all radios until I need them. I can go 3 days before a recharge with moderate surfing, texting, and phone usage. I read XDA forums mostly to understand how the phone works and how to avoid problems, but I think the stock EVO used sensibly, just plain rocks.
I'm not one of those who walks down the street with my phone in my face, nor do i walk through the mall with it glued to my ear, nor do i care about email push. I can understand how battery life is an issue for some, but for a dinosaur like me, it's the best Smartphone I've ever used. In fact, when you think about it, it's actually more powerful and capable than the Win 98 computers we were using just 10 years ago!

Android is a great os if:
You are a min / maxer and can take things into your own hand with root and custom roms.
The issue comes when you are not willing to do the above but still expect certain things out of the box.
The average mindless cow with little clue will do just fine with any os.

Aridon said:
Android is a great os if:
You are a min / maxer and can take things into your own hand with root and custom roms.
The issue comes when you are not willing to do the above but still expect certain things out of the box.
The average mindless cow with little clue will do just fine with any os.
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Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.

GaryJ51 said:
Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
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I didn't say otherwise.

GaryJ51 said:
Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
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There should be an IQ test before buying a phone.

afflaq said:
There should be an IQ test before buying a phone.
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There are some people....

I agree that unfortunately this device does not come out of the box set up well for the average "phone" user. Getting the most out of the EVO or Android in general is not for the faint of heart or impatient (or stupid) people.
That said, I too am almost ready to propose to this phone. Two more paychecks and I can afford the diamond crusted engagement case I have on lay-away (that was a joke..)
I would say best phone ever but to be honest I don't think of the evo as a phone, at all. It is truly a pocket sized computer that comes with a phone and is sold by a phone company. It's nothing short of revolutionary.

I got mine launch day from Best Buy too, been loving it, no root or nothing and no problems.

If you use the evo stock, you don't have problems, just battery, but if you root the phone, the problems start!
Sent from my EVO!

I got mine from launch day, been loving this phone already. I've rooted and don't see much problem at all. I think if you know what to do after rooting then most problem.can ne resolve easily.
I've tested so many rom and still can't find much problem at all.
This indeed the best phone i've own.
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I'm still using stock from the day I bought it, the 2nd week it came out with all the OTA updates. No root, yet! I get 14 - 18 hours per charge with pretty heavy usage. People just need to read and tweak.
I love my Evo and my girlfriend loves it when I bring it to bed with us.
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acrh2 said:
Happy? I just proposed to my Evo.
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Just? Dude, we've been happily married since launch

I just started a similar thread before reading your thread.
I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently (stdv 5-6), and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.
I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.
I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone post XDA help. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.
The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.
I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?
I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.
Anyway, cheers!

The Evo is a great phone, and a great development tool.
I have had mine sine i/o, and my network is big red. It's created quite a powerful duo for me. No 4g, but I don't really care about that. I don't even think it's in my area, but I'm not even about to map check it.
This phone has allowed me to get back into android programming etc without hassles, and I've been doing more and more things every day. I look forward to being able to release roms, themes, etc as well, once I get the hiccups polished out
As for the Evo, really, if it wern't for the XDA community, I don't think it would get as much play. I know I would have ditched the phone has it been a case of the Droid X, etc. It came down to the wire, and the Droid X was just days away. I made the choice to stick w/ the Evo, and stay far away from the Milestone boot loader.
I have the Evo to thank for a renewed interest in mobile technology and programming that I have not had, since the Touch Pro 1 days.

Casshern said:
I have had mine sine i/o, and my network is big red. It's created quite a powerful duo for me. No 4g, but I don't really care about that. I don't even think it's in my area, but I'm not even about to map check it.
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What did it take to change the MEID to make it work? I have a DroidX and hate it, I figure I can get a cheap Vz phone and port the MEID if I can find the tools.
Any way, good choice to stick with the Evo, I keep hoping to get one but Sprint sucks where I am at.

NakkiNyan said:
What did it take to change the MEID to make it work? I have a DroidX and hate it, I figure I can get a cheap Vz phone and port the MEID if I can find the tools.
Any way, good choice to stick with the Evo, I keep hoping to get one but Sprint sucks where I am at.
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I didn't go that route.
You can still manage to make things happen if you bash your head against a wall long enough, and talk to a million different people.
But don't forget. You get no insurance, no support, no anything. They provide the service to you, that's it. Provisioning works with *228, no hassles, but the initial work has to be done by you. Pre-programming, setting up the intricate details and whatnots.
Side note: Why do you hate the Droid X?

Casshern said:
I didn't go that route.
You can still manage to make things happen if you bash your head against a wall long enough, and talk to a million different people.
But don't forget. You get no insurance, no support, no anything. They provide the service to you, that's it. Provisioning works with *228, no hassles, but the initial work has to be done by you. Pre-programming, setting up the intricate details and whatnots.
Side note: Why do you hate the Droid X?
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If Vz won't accept Sprint phones then how did you get it to work?
And sorry I didn't see until recently that MEID thing was illegal, I actually cam back to delete it but I guess I am too late...
Physical buttons are my #1 peeve I despise the ones on the front and I constantly hit the camera button on the side.
I should not EVER have to hear a button click to press and the pressure it takes to push them could be measured foot pounds plus I have big fingers and always hit 2 at a time.
- There are no words to explain how much I hate physical keys, it takes all caps and vulgarity, you get the idea.
Also coming from an iPhone with great asian support built in, including hand writing, this has none and even on the market the apps to replace it suck (I am being generous here.) I used it daily on my iPhone.
No front camera.
When I turn on Wi-Fi my bars drop in half.
Motoblur ... yuck

So I showed my evo to a friend....

And I realized why most people find it hard to use smartphones other than the iPhone. It is not based around the concept of 'iPhone is naturally easier because it just WORKS' but more along the lines of people have this notion that smartphones SHOULD behave/look like the iPhone.
For instance, when I showed my friend my Evo he looked at the screen and said "Where are the apps?" I said I only keep a few on the main screen that I use frequently such as SMS/Phone/Voicemail/Dropbox etc but the rest are in the app drawer. He said "Yeah... but that's gay they should all be on the screens" after switching from screen to screen only to find a few apps here and there I realized that people are accustomed to the clutter and confusion of iOS rather than the simplicity and organization of Android. It really seems counter intuitive to me. While the iPhone is a ****ing AMAZING phone (whoever says otherwise is a fanboy) it definitely loses in some areas to Android but people base their standards off the iOS which is a clear bias. I never knew how much of a grasp Apple has on the smartphone industry until this event. Coming from a Blackberry and having owned an iPod I found the transitions to be seamless but I also worked at IT for a long duration.
The conclusion I reached was that the notion of Android is harder to use because you need to be a geek to understand it is also false. Android is not more difficult to use, it is just different in itself. Turning on wifi on an iPhone is the same process. Downloading an APP is the same as well. Making phone calls and sending texts are identical. Hopefully we can see a growth in smartphone technologies that embrace the BEST possible user experience which I believe goes to Android for their sheer volume of phones as well as operating system capabilities.

Sounds like your describing that evo vs. iphone video on youtube and your friend is the character repeating "I don't care".
Are you happy with your device? Does it do what you want the way you want?
You are all that matters....
good day.

Kinda... but its not utter stupidity - more ignorance. What I am trying to say is that the iPhone has been the epitome of what a touchscreen smartphone SHOULD look and behave like.
I enjoy Android but I honestly got the Evo because of Sprints plan coupled in with unlimited bandwidth was a great money saving choice for a smart phone. Also, the fact that I can roam on Verizon meant I could get signal where an iPhone could not.
Honestly though, if I could get an iPhone on Sprints network with unlimited data + tethering as I do now for under $80 I would jump on that offer. Really love that phone and the game development is skyrocketing. I do enjoy the Evo, however. Cant complain about its amazing screen size and custom roms I can put in. Also the free tethering is nice

I guess your conclusion also explains why in every smartphone review, the iPhone is mentioned several times also.

Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.

werxen said:
Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.
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So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
That said, I much prefer my evo. Even if the iphone became available outside AT&T, I'm sticking with android. While the iphone has more games (and fart apps), android allows more customization. I'm also not limited to a single controlled app market. Finally, my aging eyes love the large screen.

My girlfriend has a mytouch slide and after having the phone for a week I was showing her how to use it and she didn't even realize there was a menu button. You miss out on an awful lot without using that button lol.
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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.

bigmoogle said:
So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
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Pretty sure the BB curve still holds the crown.
That said, I am moving my mom from her BB curve to an EVO in December. I'll do the same with the EVO that I did with the curve. I will set it up so everything she wants is on the home screens. I'll give it a nice, clean look and make sure the fonts are right, etc.
She wants it for the big screen, not because it is fast, customizable, or anything else.

TheBiles said:
People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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Or completely uninterested in technology. I'm sure there are plenty of people with brains and advanced degrees that could not care much less about stuff that is possible with their phone.

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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.

rugedraw said:
I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.
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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying

nebenezer said:
I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying
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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.

rugedraw said:
Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.
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Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared

iPhone is a bit too easy and locked down for my tastes. I like being able to apply themes, change my Home app, etc. I think that alone makes Android look much better than iPhone. My iPhone friend who is an Apple fanboy agrees that the Android setup is much better and widgets are awesome.
Icons on icons is ugly to me. It's almost insulting.

nebenezer said:
Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared
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Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.

Yea, the Zune is pretty. Although to be honest, I would invest in a 32GB SD card for my Evo and use that instead of using two separate devices. While the UI of the Zune is pretty, I wouldn't spend the money on it when I have a phone I already carry with me all the time that can do the same thing.

werxen said:
Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.
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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology

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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology
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Okay fine lets agree to be police to so others don't have to deal with it.
I was thinking about getting an SD card for my Evo but the only crappy thing is I want to carry my music around in places that I don't want to take my phone like the gym. Not only are phones prohibited in some gyms, I couldn't bear to accidentally drop a weight on my phone or get too sweaty and short it out etc etc. Although I love my Zune and it cost me as much as my Evo did, it is not nearly the same device as far as capabilities.
Plus, another thing with the Evo is you don't really need an extra sd card. Just setup Dropbox accounts and you're good to go. I have all my music on dropbox and I just stream it perfectly.

Not to hijack, but I also have a dropbox account. How are you streaming music to your evo?
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Help, I can't put my phone down!

I love it too much!
The new phone feeling hasn't gone away and I'm two weeks in.
Just had to share...
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Glad to hear, welcome to the forum
Sent from HTC Evo, the REAL iPhone killer....

Hey, most of us have had our EVOs for months and still haven't lost that fresh feeling new tech brings.
It's actually rather difficult to lose it with all the excellent ROMs and support we have access to here.
For example, I recently switched to a newer ROM that has swype. I'm suddenly addicted to writing, posting, texting, and emailing from my phone. These new interest get me looking in new places for more apps and such, and the process repeats!
-Just warming up!

The new phone shine is gone for me. I guess I need to flash a new rom or learn how to write apps or something.
You have been EVOfied.

Had mine since November, its still in my hand 24/7

Bought mine on release day and I am still finding new things to play with all the time. Most of the people here are great and willing to help and the dev's keep putting new little tweaks in the rom's.
Just signed up for dropbox, and that is awesome. And the utorrent app w/ 3.0 alpha on my desktop is amazing It seems like it is never ending!!!
Granted, this is my first android phone and before this I had a blackberry curve that was hell-bent on making me kill myself - this is the coolest device i have had in quite some time!
Cheers!

Every time I get bored with my phone I find something new to tinker with, some new program to replace an old program with or some new program to do something new and cool with my phone. Right now I'm busy learning how to automate my phone with Tasker.

lol, i must say, i'm not a big fan of "big" phones, but the EVO is technically not all that huge. i prefer slider phones, but the on screen keypad is really easy to get used to. this phone definitely rocks and should be the iphone killer. the qik application is a bit disappointing to me since the 4g is not all that great, and my g/f doesn't have a wireless router (yet), but i'm sure once i get her one, it'll be top of the game. htc and android are the best team!
P.s. I have root and don't even care to put any roms on here, the stock is great, just removed the bloat and my battery life and performance is uncanny than any other droid i've had before.

I know the feeling! I used to drive 10-20 miles down the interstate before I realized that I had left my BB at home. Now I don't make it to the kitchen without turning around and snatching it up!

Got mine at xmas...
someone help... I think I play with this thing to much...
it is affecting my other important things in life....
I need to stop...
i need to quit....
is there an app to make me put this thing down for a few hours?
ps.. I am talking about my evo!!!!

lol! let someone in your family put a lockcreen code on it lol
... but then you would probably sit for hours trying to figure it out

Best bet is to just feed the beast.

You could always use Tasker to pop up regular messages to tell you to stop playing with it or you'll wear it out.

Vibrant(any android competitor) vs iPhone on AT&T... trying to educate a coworker

I overheard a dude at work who is looking to get his first smartphone (on AT&T)that he was probably going to give-in and get an iPhone.
I asked him why he wanted the iPhone and he said because no other phone out there can touch it from his impression.
I asked him what it had that other phones out there didn't have and he obviously didn't do his homework yet, though he still had already developed the "desire" to get the iPhone. I know it's because of advertising, but the real thing was I couldn't nail down exactly why an Android phone would be better, or even what phone would trump it on AT&T...
The Captivate doesn't have a front facing camera which I believe is kind of necessary to really stack up against Apple's phone.
Anyone have any simple advice I can give this guy to stay away from Apple? He is obviously not that smart on phones, so I know he is adverse to custom ROMS unless I can convince him otherwise. Thanks.

Let him get what he wants unless you wanna have to hear him complain when he can't figure this or that out or if this app is not available. Less stress for you down the line. To each his own.
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True, android only better if you give it a chance and willing to play around.
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If he really wants the iPhone, he should get the iPhone.
If he isn't really sure what he wants, I would suggest that he go to the store and try out different phones in person. Sometimes a phone isn't what you expect when you finally get to play with it.
Also, I think if you're going to upgrade, make sure there are at least 2 phones you're interested in. In case you hate your first choice, you can take it back during the return period and exchange it for your second choice.

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If he really wants the iPhone, he should get the iPhone.
If he isn't really sure what he wants, I would suggest that he go to the store and try out different phones in person. Sometimes a phone isn't what you expect when you finally get to play with it.
Also, I think if you're going to upgrade, make sure there are at least 2 phones you're interested in. In case you hate your first choice, you can take it back during the return period and exchange it for your second choice.
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Thanks, good advice.

I would only try and direct him away from locking in on a contract on an iPhone that's been out 6+ months when the next iPhone is right around the corner. May as well lock in on a brand new device to get the most out of it.

He should get the iPhone. It's a great phone and perfect for people who dont know how or dont care to modify their phone.
I prefer my Vibrant and wouldnt trade it for an iPhone 4G, but thats me, and I understand that for most people out there an iPhone is better, even if only because it makes them feel good to have the fashionable bling. To each his own.
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Agree with the poster above. Convince him to wait a few months for the next iPhone.

sublimnl said:
Let him get what he wants unless you wanna have to hear him complain when he can't figure this or that out or if this app is not available. Less stress for you down the line. To each his own.
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That is the best advise possible. My coworker fell in love with my vibrant and wanted the equivalent on verizon. Since then every day there is new questions. I like helping people, but not a single day goes by wiouth something new to ask me. Be prepared for that.
I would let him know about a little phone coming out next week-ish called the Motorola Atrix w/ its dual-core awesomeness. Otherwise let him follow the cult of jobs.

I think the op just really wants to show him that there are other phones out there just as good as the iphone.
I know a co-worker of mine felt the same way and after talking with him he has now decided to go with the htc thunderbolt.
I agree with everyone else its just insane to go with a old phone when I new one is just around the corner. I swear if the 2g was still out everyone would still buy that

Thunder bolt!
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its very simple and others might not like my thought process but..
iphone is for simple minded sheep, android is for smart people.

if he has his heart set on an iphone, do not try and convince him, because if you make all these arguments of android being greater (and since he does not know his way around a phone), he is going to get a captivate, probably with android 2.1 + lag + gps problems + w/e other problems it came with, and i doubt he would know how to flash a new rom etc.
Then you will be 'that bastard that convinced me to throw away $200 plus my upgrade', and then one day he will climb up you window with a chainsaw (or machete if he is not that strong) and ....

Im not going to lie but the iphone is a pretty powerful machine. Dont hold me to this but i have heard that the processor is underclocked to 1 ghz to save battery..
But the os is so locked down which makes it better in some ways and worse in others.. if you havent noticed, the iphone sets the standard for smartphones, its always "well it compares to.the iphone this.... iphone that..." .
Apple does their research right and always sets the bar for smartphones. The reason it is not customizable is so that everything will work correctly. I personally don't prefer that I can't change anything (without jailbreaking of course, which is a pain in the ass) .
I kind of have the best of both worlds with an ipod touch 4g. Its very very fast and has excellent battery life but its just so boring..
So if he's not tech savvy then tell him to wait for the next iphone. However if he is lol tell him to wait for the samsung galaxy s 2.
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Ios is so ugly compared to what we have with android. It is so busy. I never noticed until I got used to android, but now when I see someone using an iphone I can't help but think that the screen is annoyingly crammed full of icons. Who wants to look at all that junk?
Also the screen is noticably smaller
To me a 4" android screen is infinitely more plesant to use.
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iOS to android

I just ordered a n4 for my wife. She's been on an 3GS for a couple years now. I'm looking for any advice for making the transition as painless as possible. As the pain would be inflicted on me.
Any advice would be appreciated.

kenhicg said:
I just ordered a n4 for my wife. She's been on an 3GS for a couple years now. I'm looking for any advice for making the transition as painless as possible. As the pain would be inflicted on me.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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If she likes her iphone, your screwed.
I know how you feel, my wife uses an iPhone also and she won't even touch android. I tried to give her a gs3, she wouldn't even consider it. She says its too big and not as easy to use. I can't understand this but that's the way it is when your married. I gave up, its not worth all the pain. What ever the wife wants, that's what she gets.
Edit: If you haven't synced all her contacts with Google yet, this would be a good time to do it so when she gets her phone you can sign her in to Google and at least her contacts will be there. If she likes games, buy her a few. None of this could convince my wife though. But I wish you all the luck.
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I would talk **** to the wife if she had an iphone.
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kenhicg said:
I just ordered a n4 for my wife. She's been on an 3GS for a couple years now. I'm looking for any advice for making the transition as painless as possible. As the pain would be inflicted on me.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Good luck.
GODSPEED.

yea, it will really depend on the person and how she uses her iphone day to day. Tons will blindly follow iOS for no reasonable explanation other than it works or it's beautiful. There are others who maybe willing to try it. For my wife, the main thing she would miss are the games iOS offers. She plays all of those cutesy games that are just not available on Android. Also, she's not in the habit of plugging her phone in every day. Her 3GS lasts a while.

Well as for games I have a ton of them and she still has an ipad so I hope that doesn't prove to be an issue. Also I plan to set it up to look as iphonish as possible. I have several launchers I will try and see if I can't get it be a less painful transition.
flintdragon said:
yea, it will really depend on the person and how she uses her iphone day to day. Tons will blindly follow iOS for no reasonable explanation other than it works or it's beautiful. There are others who maybe willing to try it. For my wife, the main thing she would miss are the games iOS offers. She plays all of those cutesy games that are just not available on Android. Also, she's not in the habit of plugging her phone in every day. Her 3GS lasts a while.
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Step one:
Don't set up the N4 to her tastes as it will be yours soon.
Step two:
Have a 99 dollar 4S waiting in a drawer for her.
Step three:
Set up your new N4!
Seriously though, this is a weighted question... If she uses an app not on the play store she'll be mad. But if she's not a heavy user, sync all her contacts to Google, buy all the apps she uses on iOS on the play store and set the phone up like her iPhone so it feels familiar. Then let her explore the awesomeness of android. My wife and I had iPhones, I had them all from the original to the 4S and she had up to the 4. Her 4 died and I didn't want to spend 150 bucks on a refurb when the 5 was a few months out, so I got her a HTC Vivid. It was easier for me as her iPhone was constantly having issues, so she was willing to try something different. That vivid actually got me to see the light. I was tired of the jail breaking cat and mouse game, so I sold my 4S and got a Vivid too. Obviously on a N4 now, but the jist of this is to just give her time, she'll like it eventually.
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Android isn't even that hard to use, just get her use to the menu and back keys
Tell her to keep things as simple as possible when customizing stuff
Get her use to the app drawer also
The lock screen and how you answer calls
If she gets use to that she will be good, especially the back and menu button, that's what gets people confused the most
Hopes this helped
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rofl..lol. brilliant..
gotzaDroid said:
Step one:
Don't set up the N4 to her tastes as it will be yours soon.
Step two:
Have a 99 dollar 4S waiting in a drawer for her.
Step three:
Set up your new N4!
Seriously though, this is a weighted question... If she uses an app not on the play store she'll be mad. But if she's not a heavy user, sync all her contacts to Google, buy all the apps she uses on iOS on the play store and set the phone up like her iPhone so it feels familiar. Then let her explore the awesomeness of android. My wife and I had iPhones, I had them all from the original to the 4S and she had up to the 4. Her 4 died and I didn't want to spend 150 bucks on a refurb when the 5 was a few months out, so I got her a HTC Vivid. It was easier for me as her iPhone was constantly having issues, so she was willing to try something different. That vivid actually got me to see the light. I was tired of the jail breaking cat and mouse game, so I sold my 4S and got a Vivid too. Obviously on a N4 now, but the jist of this is to just give her time, she'll like it eventually.
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Ios
Get isyncr or double twist so she can transfer media. sync contacts to Google.

My wife uses an N4 and she loves it. Anything in particular you want to ask?
It's a bit easy for me add she had been using an original Gaudy Tab since they came out.
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Yes did she come from an iPhone? If so how did she adapt to android.
St1ck33 said:
My wife uses an N4 and she loves it. Anything in particular you want to ask?
It's a bit easy for me add she had been using an original Gaudy Tab since they came out.
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What would be the best way to sync the contacts to google?
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Get isyncr or double twist so she can transfer media. sync contacts to Google.
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kenhicg said:
What would be the best way to sync the contacts to google?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sync+itunes+contacts+with+google

I am not sure I would consider following something that works to be blind. Lots of bugs, broken things, missing features in Android versus iOS. It is getting better fast (but think 4.2 was actually a setback).
OP... the N4 is a two handed device for a woman with smaller hands. Hell, I wear a large sized glove and it is still a two hander for many things with me, where I can reach everything pretty easy with one handed use on an iPhone.
You can sync contacts using Google (a pref in Address Book in the current system). The stock email client is missing a number of features... consider Aqua Mail.
You can sync Calendars using a cool little util named Smoothsync for iCloud, but ToDo's and Notes are a problem. I switched to Evernote and Google Tasks (but unfortunately there is no good Google Tasks client for the desktop.
If she is used to (and likes) the iTunes workflow you're in for even more resistance. There are pseudo-workarounds for Android, but none worth a damn IMHO. Many apps are better on iOS than Android (don't know if it is simply a matter of better dev tools or Android devs are lazy). Don't get me wrong, there are some great apps on Android, but many more on iOS.
If your wife ain't much of a gear head, the things that make Android stand out will be of little value to her, and the things that don't quite work as well as they should will be a constant annoyance. I kind of agree with those that remarked about you inheriting the N4 and having a 4S ready for the wife.
On the other hand, if your wife does not do a lot with her phone, she may not care.
Hope this helps!

torn between android & ios
Im still debating between the two! :silly:
Android, been through every high end device, trading and selling. Loved the nexus devices! I purchased a nexus 4 16gb first day, month later it came in the mail. Played with it for about a day traded for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked. Today I traded the iphone 5 32 for an iphone 5 16gb plus $200. I hardly use 8gb of data :good:
Placed order again for a Nexus 4 and its coming on monday! Do i return it or accept it?
Apple IOS: its very polished! the apps are very nice the ones I use. I hardly use any though. SMOOTH OS!! Would like some customization, JAILBREAK comes Sunday! So that can hold me over. Only downfall I have is being on 2g speeds! EDGE sucks! Although I am on wifi majority of the time it does make it somewhat okay. I am a business user and love the IOS!
Android: I enjoyed it, enjoyed rooting, unlocking, custom roms etc... BUT it GREW OLD to me and a WASTE of time. Half the time I spent was updating roms to fix bugs or other issues. Always trying to find the "perfect" rom! It was fun but wasted too much time. Yes I still like android, nexus 4 I used for a few hours and enjoyed it. SEXY phone and the 4.2 os has come along way. But my worry is with any android device I will want the next newest one. Plus I may go back to constantly checking for new roms and whats the best blah blah blah .... I would hope I could stick with the stock nexus 4 but the WANT to unlock bootloader and flash a custom rom is like crack!
I think that sums it up, ITS JUST A DAMN PHONE!

osugsxr said:
Im still debating between the two! :silly:
Android, been through every high end device, trading and selling. Loved the nexus devices! I purchased a nexus 4 16gb first day, month later it came in the mail. Played with it for about a day traded for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked. Today I traded the iphone 5 32 for an iphone 5 16gb plus $200. I hardly use 8gb of data :good:
Placed order again for a Nexus 4 and its coming on monday! Do i return it or accept it?
Apple IOS: its very polished! the apps are very nice the ones I use. I hardly use any though. SMOOTH OS!! Would like some customization, JAILBREAK comes Sunday! So that can hold me over. Only downfall I have is being on 2g speeds! EDGE sucks! Although I am on wifi majority of the time it does make it somewhat okay. I am a business user and love the IOS!
Android: I enjoyed it, enjoyed rooting, unlocking, custom roms etc... BUT it GREW OLD to me and a WASTE of time. Half the time I spent was updating roms to fix bugs or other issues. Always trying to find the "perfect" rom! It was fun but wasted too much time. Yes I still like android, nexus 4 I used for a few hours and enjoyed it. SEXY phone and the 4.2 os has come along way. But my worry is with any android device I will want the next newest one. Plus I may go back to constantly checking for new roms and whats the best blah blah blah .... I would hope I could stick with the stock nexus 4 but the WANT to unlock bootloader and flash a custom rom is like crack!
I think that sums it up, ITS JUST A DAMN PHONE!
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Yep, android keeps getting better with newer things keeps us hooked... however ios is stagnant but it works so there's nothing wrong with that.
That is why girls love ios, it's simple, they can care less about updates on roms and such. My gf wanted the s3...well that lasted 1 week until she went back to 4s. Even if our androids can fly... girls would be like "it doesn't have this app I like though.... ANDROIDS SUCKS I hate this phone!"
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Teo032 said:
Yep, android keeps getting better with newer things keeps us hooked... however ios is stagnant but it works so there's nothing wrong with that.
That is why girls love ios, it's simple, they can care less about updates on roms and such. My gf wanted the s3...well that lasted 1 week until she went back to 4s. Even if our androids can fly... girls would be like "it doesn't have this app I like though.... ANDROIDS SUCKS I hate this phone!"
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Ain't that the truth. This is the truest freakin thing I've read all day.

1. Receive n4
2. Source a used iPhone 4s
3. Give n4 to wife
4. Take n4 back when she complains
5. Give iPhone 4s to wife
6. Root n4
7. Make money
8. Prosper
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The Nexus 4 is a big phone, coming from an iPod touch 4. It does take a lot of getting used to, however, but I couldn't even imagine using the Galaxy Note II as a phone. It feels more like a tablet.
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