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[Q] Brother wants a DX, simplest way to get 3g hotspot?

Hello all, I'm trying to help my brother decide on a new verizon phone. I'm stuck with at&t and own a captivate, so I'm familiar with the development community over there. However, I'm a little more clueless with this neck of the woods. Although I've enjoyed my captivate, I'm actually trying to push him to get the Droid X instead of the Fascinate (I thought he would enjoy the bigger screen and a better customer support?).
1. First, is there anything he should be aware of that might give him problems with the Droid X (hardware/software concerns--akin to the troublesome gps of the galaxy s line)?
2. He primarily wants a smart phone to help out his business (a small machine shop) so he can check emails and whatnot. Along with this his biggest request was to be able to use the mobile hotspot function without paying verizon for it (aside from the phone's $30 unlimited data). So my questions for this are:
a. From what I've gathered in the last day, is that he needs to root and install an app like "wireless tether" or something like that. Is the simplest way to root by installing z4root?
b. Is there anything else he needs to do besides the root and the tether app?
c. Is there any risk that verizon could figure out he's tethering a computer while not paying for the service?
Thanks for any help and clarifications. I appreciate any other comments if you'd recommend a different phone (Fascinate or Incredible)--I know, this is in the Droid X forum, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Z4root is way easy to use, just install and hit one button and you're done. Wireless tether app works well but occasionally it pauses while in sleep mode. Awakening the phone resolves this issue. I also use baranacle wifi tether which seems to have this issue alot less. I'm sure Verizon can guess that you're using a tether app if you use alot of data, but I use far beyond the average amount of data and they have yet to say anything or attempt to charge me extra. I haven't tried the fascinate or incredable so I wouldn't be able to say how they compare to the x but I have been very happy with the performance of mine. Its very snappy and hasn't let me down yet. Oh and I don't use that much GPS so I would also not be able to give you a definitive answer to that as well.
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Zudovex said:
Z4root is way easy to use, just install and hit one button and you're done. Wireless tether app works well but occasionally it pauses while in sleep mode. Awakening the phone resolves this issue. I also use baranacle wifi tether which seems to have this issue alot less. I'm sure Verizon can guess that you're using a tether app if you use alot of data, but I use far beyond the average amount of data and they have yet to say anything or attempt to charge me extra. I haven't tried the fascinate or incredable so I wouldn't be able to say how they compare to the x but I have been very happy with the performance of mine. Its very snappy and hasn't let me down yet. Oh and I don't use that much GPS so I would also not be able to give you a definitive answer to that as well.
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Awesome, thanks! It's good to know that it's pretty simple to do, especially since my brother doesn't have any experience in modding things like this (that's why he turns to his more savvy--nerdier--younger brother).
The GPS was just an example I used to refer to the much maligned failure of the Galaxy S line. I was just wondering if the X had any similar types of downfalls that he should be aware of before being let down later.

Other than the locked bootloader, I've been pretty happy with my DX. And since installing the Liberty 1.5 ROM last Friday, I've been SUPER happy with it. It's a very nice phone, and pretty speedy.

+1 on liberty 1.5, great rom.
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[Q] Questions about Droid X on Metro PCS

I know this question has been asked plenty of times before but I have some questions that I just cannot get a straight answer to. XDA came through for me with my HD2 and I hope I can get some guideance again.
Backstory....I got my HD2 all androided up with 2.2, ran up to my local "Simple Mobile" Store (Im sure most of you know, simple mobile is pretty much T-Mobile in disguise) and I got my phone activated. Then to smah my dreams, I find out I cant get signal at all within 10miles of my house. Although the phone is amazing when it does have signal.
So now, Im Looking into going back to MetroPCS because I have full signal with them every where I go, and Im looking at the Droid-X as my next phone porting Victim. However I cannot seem to find one solid guide on getting everything working properly. Some guides say everything but apps work, some say apps work but no mms, Is there one rock solid guide out there that will cover all aspects? Obviously I would like my phone to act just as it would on VZW, or as close as I can get. Secondly, Will I beable to get 3G or not? Im pretty sure MetroPCS does not have 3G(Atleast in Daytona Beach, FL), but some people keep saying they do. Lastly, Since im pretty sure that the answer to the last question will be a big fat NO, what kinds of internet speeds can I expect with Metro's network? Will apps like Pandora and Youtube Work? If so I know they will be slow, but just how slow are we talking?
Also, as a side question, are there any 4G LTE phones that can be ported over from verizon yet? Metro doesnt have the best selection of phones.
Thank you to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Im definately not a noob, but I'm sure as hell no expert either.
Sorry for being so wordy with my question
Edit: Also I have a friend willing to sell me a EVO for $100, Is it possible to get that phone working aswell, apps and all?

for droid x:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-x-and-get-apps-mms-internet-talk-tex-working
for evo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704161
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796257
just got these from a quick google search. there are lots of other guides

I have actually Seen the Guide for the droid X, and the first one you posted for the EVO. However I haven't see the second EVO guide that you posted, so thank you for that one, that answered the EVO question.
My only other question is; What (if any) apps Will not function on metropcs? I do not live in a EVDO market so I wont have 3G. Will apps like Pandora, Youtube, and google maps work? and if they do what kind of experiences have peole had with them, are they tolerable, or are they so slow that their barely usable?

relik1989 said:
I have actually Seen the Guide for the droid X, and the first one you posted for the EVO. However I haven't see the second EVO guide that you posted, so thank you for that one, that answered the EVO question.
My only other question is; What (if any) apps Will not function on metropcs? I do not live in a EVDO market so I wont have 3G. Will apps like Pandora, Youtube, and google maps work? and if they do what kind of experiences have peole had with them, are they tolerable, or are they so slow that their barely usable?
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They should work, however without 3g, apps like pandora and youtube will take forever to load

Jmoney47 said:
They should work, however without 3g, apps like pandora and youtube will take forever to load
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Do you think it will even be worth it?

While I myself am a total VZW Fanboy, if you have constant access to WiFi (college campus), it wouldn't be so bad.
Personally, the hassle isn't worth it for me and I'd rather pay the premium for a reliable network, but for others, maybe not .

Interestingly enough I am seriously considering going to VZW. However I know they are going to require a deposit from me, but it's almost worth it for me. On a side note, this is for me and my wife, so if i do end up biting the bullet and going with VZW do you know if it would be one deposit for the whole account, or one deposit per line? ATT wanted $500 per line.
But in the mean time im still stuck with metro, and I have 25Mb/s internet at my house so im covers there, but unfortunately no WiFi at work.

I am currently using droid x on metro. With it upgraded to leaked gingerbread everything works except picture messages which can work but is a little buggy. You can follow the guid at Howard forums for flashing. You do not need U2LN or AUTOSTAT files at all with gingerbread and since metro dos not use a proxy anymore....
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dzhowandai said:
I am currently using droid x on metro. With it upgraded to leaked gingerbread everything works except picture messages which can work but is a little buggy. You can follow the guid at Howard forums for flashing. You do not need U2LN or AUTOSTAT files at all with gingerbread and since metro dos not use a proxy anymore....
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what kind of data speeds are you getting?
i was unaware i wasnt going to be able to get 3g when i had my droid x flashed to metro.

Just 1x 130 up and mid. 200 down...
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Just 1x 130 up and mid. 200 down...
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damn...LOL this sucks for me. i get 6k download speeds in my area in tampa.
guess its time to find a new phone.
having a smartphone with basically no internet access is pointless for me:/
FAIL.

So I just rooted my phone, what now?

Ive been reading about the possibilities of rooting and why its a good thing.
Well I finally rooted, but what should I do now?
I've already removed the bloatware and im not interested in themes.
As for ROMS/CustomOS, there hasnt been any ROM that sets it that much more better then the stock 2.2firmware that came with the phone. Aside from the possible swipe texting, is there any significant benefit from using a custom ROM as oppose to the standard OS?
Also what are some must have apps for rooted phone?
Feels like the only real benefit from rooting (if one is not interested in themes/looks) is just removing bloatware

Same boat
So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?

Rhill051 said:
So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?
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Im not sure about titaninum backup or the liberty 1.5 youre trying to install.
However, I can hopefully share with you what I know about the free mobile hotspot. If by that you mean tether, than yes, you do need a seperate app. In fact the app is the only thing you need, no need for roms and what not. Some of the tethe rapps are PDAnet, easytether, and wireless tehter
theres probably more but those 3 are the ones I see most mentioned and hear success stories with most of them

alot of the Roms out there include a wireless 3g hotspot app in them, for example the rom im rocking is Darkslide 4.2 and it includes the app, and always remember to give credit where credit is due ^_^ and always thank the devs for doing this for free

Oh for sure, I appreciate the help info ethus site is the bomb and the dev's here kick butt. So I was using pda net before I rooted but I was told by someone that you can get the wireless hot spot by rooting. I might check out that dark sliders rom too. Is it a lot of work tojump between roms?

Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.

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Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.
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How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes

Rhill051 said:
How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes
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He's confusing Verizon with AT&T:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/...-using-unauthorized-tethering-methods-to-pay/

Tethering

Haven't looked into this since it first got blocked over the summer, but has anyone figured out a workaround for tethering on gingerbread. If not would ICS be any different?
FYI yes im rooted

mguinta25 said:
Haven't looked into this since it first got blocked over the summer, but has anyone figured out a workaround for tethering on gingerbread. If not would ICS be any different?
FYI yes im rooted
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i use opengarden wifi tether on gb works great on my x

droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/30698-guide-wireless-tethering-your-own-risk.html
2.3.and higher you will need to freeze some files or after awhile verizon could come after you because of there data tracking programs now. That site gives you lots of options on what you can do. GL
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With a new rom every day.
I get bored lol.

[WORKAROUND] Bypassing Tmobile's Anti Tethering Policy

Recently Tmobile finally started filtering their data and are attempting to prevent all users no matter the ROM or software on the phones from tethering their laptop to the phone.
As soon as you tether and try to view a webpage on your laptop, you will get redirected to a sales page, where TMobile tells you that you need to purchase an additional feature for $15 USD a month. This is outrageous considering you already pay for a certain ammount of data per month, and as long as you remain within that they are just being greedy and are nickle and diming us.
The workarounds / bypass are detailed here:
http://benbuchacher.com/posts/2012/06/bypassing-tmobiles-tethering-filters.html

Using CyanogenMod 9 I tether just fine...

This just started today for me Ive tethered since cupcake just fine.. There are other reports too using Cyanogenmod or any other ROM will not help you when this rolls out to your area.

e495957 said:
Using CyanogenMod 9 I tether just fine...
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Cm9 here too, still blocked though

We ran into this problem several months ago but were using the LG Optimus T phone for tethering. It ran fine for a day or so and then we started getting the Tmobile message screen to upgrade. We had plenty of gigs left and couldnt figure out why we could no longer tether. We are heading on vacation next month and this will hopefully help us bypass Tmobile's junk. Haven't tried our Galaxy S2's yet so we may be worried all for nothing..
UPDATE: Tethering works great on the S2 thru Tmobile,.,,Hotspot does not. Got a screen on my phone for Tmobile to sign up for it monthly when I searched the Help link...laptop is asking for a Network Key to access the Hotspot...

Try the ClockworkMod tethering app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether

HOW DO I TUNNEL!?!?!??!

I didn't have any trouble using USB or wifi tethering on my bone stock galaxy nexus, but they might not have rolled this system out back then. This is definitely good information though, the wife wants to use this when we're out on business.
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HOW DO I TUNNEL!?!?!??!
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You need a Virtual Private Network or VPN. I can't post links so you'll have to look it up yourself.

So I have a question for you guys...
I understand that I need to switch the user agent on my laptop when tethering, but what about when I tether to something like a Roku box or a Playstation 3?

The reason why only some people are having problems with the tethering is because T-Mobile is including hidden APN settings in the new software updates and the software on new devices. These hidden APNs helps T-Mobile detect tethering. Go to this thread to see what I mean, also you can PM the OP and he can tell you exactly what he had to do, I think he had to decompile the framwork,apk or framwork.jar one and remove them from there I can not remember exactly.
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GROGG88 said:
I will gladly discuss it here... Both Elegancia 3.0.0 and version B of my rom are using resources from 3.32.401.105 in order to achieve two functions:
1. Unlock APNs
2. Provide leedroid tweak compatibility
The only problem with this is the fact that they are no longer "true tmous builds". I refer to them as "franken-builds"... I have not gone through all the differences between framework-res, systemui, framework.jar, services.jar, etc... but I can tell you that certain small bugs have been reported with the xe build that others have reported as fixed in the official tmous version.
The APNs are written to apns.xml within the framework-res.apk. This is why we used XE components to unlock the APNs at first. You can distinguish what roms are built this way by the framework version:
TMOUS: 20120412.202737
XE: 20120321.232857
My unlocking mod is the stock TMOUS framework-res.apk, but it has the apns.xml from XE. This ensures that the rest of the rom stays in tact and that no bugs will be induced by mixed resources... I've also included this mod as an option during install on version A of my rom.
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CapnBoost said:
I didn't have any trouble using USB or wifi tethering on my bone stock galaxy nexus, but they might not have rolled this system out back then. This is definitely good information though, the wife wants to use this when we're out on business.
You need a Virtual Private Network or VPN. I can't post links so you'll have to look it up yourself.
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Can you send in a pm?
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Just so I am clear...the way T-Mobile is doing this is by seeing the user agent of the browser. Since I tether my Galaxy Tab Wifi to my Gnex from time to time I should be in the clear correct? Since I am not using a browser on a laptop, but rather on another Android device.

Thanks for the post, will try this out

Wait...so what if I use a desktop user agent from a mobile browser to grab the full page. That's going to get blocked as well...?

I got that problem with my new Galaxy S2... luckily the rom I flashed took care of that problem.
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solarus2011 said:
Just so I am clear...the way T-Mobile is doing this is by seeing the user agent of the browser. Since I tether my Galaxy Tab Wifi to my Gnex from time to time I should be in the clear correct? Since I am not using a browser on a laptop, but rather on another Android device.
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Just tested. It works on almost all of the UserAgents becauses Chrome/IE/FireFox.. Hell IPad even works. You should be fine for now. I hope they stick to this solution instead of going to more preventive measures because this is easily bypassed.. My Skype/Steam/Trillian/AIM/etc all still connect perfectly even without bypassing because it's only blocking Desktop useragents. The stupidest part of this is requesting the desktop version of sites like on the Google Chrome Android browser results in the blocked page as well.. :|

Nexus S Stock
I have a Nexus S and I have gotten all my updates are via T-mobile OTA updates, however I have never had a problem tethering.

MischievousMrFoxx said:
I have a Nexus S and I have gotten all my updates are via T-mobile OTA updates, however I have never had a problem tethering.
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None of your updates have been from T-Mobile. All those OTA updates came straight from Google. One of the things that ended with the nexus s was that the carriers weren't allowed to really touch the phone at all. As such, T-Mo never sold it in their stores. You could get it at Best Buy, etc, but not at official stores.

I believe this only works if you bought the device from T-mobile right? since i can tether on my iPhone just fine (althought on 2G/EDGE) I can't confirm it with android though, but if they are ruling this all over the network we're gonna have a bad time.

databaiz said:
I believe this only works if you bought the device from T-mobile right? since i can tether on my iPhone just fine (althought on 2G/EDGE) I can't confirm it with android though, but if they are ruling this all over the network we're gonna have a bad time.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure this is with T-Mo-sourced devices specifically (as in, you got it at the T-Mo store or it has the T-Mo logo on the phone itself).
Also, nice South Park reference. ".....you're gonna have a BAD time!"