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Questions about Froyo...

So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!

You don't have to do anything. It will come out as an OTA, Cyanogen will get his hands on it immediately if not a few days before the release and it will be incorporated into his ROM. You will likely have an updated version from him based on Froyo including all his extra goodies before the stock OTA is even 100% rolled out [they usually do it over a couple days].

spectrum21 said:
So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!
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FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.

ChillRays said:
Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.
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From Adobe. Check this out:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/04/moving_forward.html
We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice.
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Flash requires 2.2, so a "general release" in June would mean that 2.2 would arrive sometime before then or concurrently.
Either way, we (rooters) will get both much, much earlier.

Thanks paul. I hope theres a ton of youtube videos that come from that convention.
I hope froyo has this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae01yz5z99E
Also if you get bored, watch that video over again with closed captoning, very funny =)

I doubt google is bundling Flash with the AOSP code. That would mean adobe is making flash open source(not happening) or google is locking up android(not happening). With all the talk about decoupling the android OS, the chances of something like a video player being bundled to the main OS update happening are very very very minute.

Flash will be a separate .apk, but the OS will need the frameworks to support it.

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?

paulk_ said:
Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?
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It irritates me because he states it as a blatant fact, where it should be said as something less direct. It is a possibility.. but it isn't exactly set in stone to happen - especially with how Google has been so closed about this release.
Froyo being leaked would be a god send, but I won't be holding my breath, simply to be suffocated at the end.

Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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p-slim said:
Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.

so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?

ChillRays said:
Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?
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Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.

Read mang read... this thread only has 2pages
mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mortzz said:
It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.
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so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.

p-slim said:
so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.
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Yep, at least not in its current state.
(That's what they get for buying SenseUI!)

its going to suck having to load everything back on to my phone, since this isn't a cyanogen update we will have to wipe everything. then its going to suck when cyanogen comes out with his rom a week or 2 later then we will have to wipe everything again to load cyanogen rom

mortzz said:
Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.
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I credit this to the lack of good stickies in this forum. Ok maybe I should change the word "good" to "useful" stickies. But there really should be a good Q&A sticky to answer everybody's question so that they don't ask it again in a new thread. For example: how many posts have you seen recently that ask "how do I root my phone?".. not many (unless its people panicing because they think they've bricked their phone) and thats because of that sticky at the top. I'm sure Paul will put together a guide (someday) and it will be at the top in no time.
Mod edit: I will pass your suggestion to the responsible forum mods.

What would it cost . . . for 1 click Root.

Just curious. How much it would take to intice a dev to put in the long hours it would take to root 3.2 with a 1 click root product. I'm thinking, those of us who are interested could pitch into a pot and make a collection to go to the first dev who brings us an easy root?
Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks like we are going to have to come up with an incentive to get a rooted 3.2 without having to jump through a downgrade/upgrade hoop.

Jgun33 said:
Just curious. How much it would take to intice a dev to put in the long hours it would take to root 3.2 with a 1 click root product. I'm thinking, those of us who are interested could pitch into a pot and make a collection to go to the first dev who brings us an easy root?
Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks like we are going to have to come up with an incentive to get a rooted 3.2 without having to jump through a downgrade/upgrade hoop.
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Best to wait for ICS as it'll be here shortly, then pass the plate around

I too agree ice is to close around the corner to ask anyone to put more time in development for honeycomb. My tablet will stay as is. On a stock rooted 3.2.
The developers all have lives .and will get back motivated when they get something new to play with.
Giggles.
Time for winter clothing shopping. Thou bikini weather is much more fun.

Is ICS Even Guaranteed for the A500? I mean I Know you can load Custom ROM with it and such.. But It runs great with the Stock Rom? Im just curious if ACER is even Planning on Sending out ICS for the A500.

sammyboy405 said:
Is ICS Even Guaranteed for the A500? I mean I Know you can load Custom ROM with it and such.. But It runs great with the Stock Rom? Im just curious if ACER is even Planning on Sending out ICS for the A500.
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One NEVER knows with Acer, but if they don't, it'll be the last Acer I ever buy.
ICS will be out inside of a month, and the A500 hasn't been out a year yet. If Acer stops support inside of a year, I'll bet others will feel much the same way.

Acer has apparently told Telstra Australia that they are updating A501's to (Android 4) ICS in December. I heard this from a Telstra representative at a store. So its good news I guess.

masands said:
Acer has apparently told Telstra Australia that they are updating A501's to (Android 4) ICS in December. I heard this from a Telstra representative at a store. So its good news I guess.
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tyvm for the confirmation

kjy2010 said:
One NEVER knows with Acer, but if they don't, it'll be the last Acer I ever buy.
ICS will be out inside of a month, and the A500 hasn't been out a year yet. If Acer stops support inside of a year, I'll bet others will feel much the same way.
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I think I'll dump Acer anyway... I had a terrible experience with support, switched three A501 and everyone of them has bad pixels. I'll wait for Transformer 2 or Slider and then will see...

Don't they have to? I believe a manufacturer has to support a device with upgrades for 18 months as part of their agreement with Google to have Google apps on their devices

rbtconsultants said:
Don't they have to? I believe a manufacturer has to support a device with upgrades for 18 months as part of their agreement with Google to have Google apps on their devices
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Yup. You are absolutely correct. Acer is a member in open handset alliance.see the link below.
www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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There is no market logic in Acer not updating to ICS. They don't have anything new to sell, so updating the A500 will only increase their sales.
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tkolev said:
There is no market logic in Acer not updating to ICS. They don't have anything new to sell, so updating the A500 will only increase their sales.
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This is what will likely bring ics to out tablet.buried bet we will have it from a development community long before acer even announces we might get it.

erica_renee said:
This is what will likely bring ics to out tablet.buried bet we will have it from a development community long before acer even announces we might get it.
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^^this....

erica_renee said:
This is what will likely bring ics to out tablet.buried bet we will have it from a development community long before acer even announces we might get it.
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I would still wait for the (near)stock rooted ICS. The chefs do a great job considering the resourses they have, but for me stability is a must and that's what is lacking in the cooked ROMs.
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tkolev said:
I would still wait for the (near)stock rooted ICS. The chefs do a great job considering the resourses they have, but for me stability is a must and that's what is lacking in the cooked ROMs.
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+1 That's why you start with a pre-rooted stock ROM, and cook your own.
Then it's completely setup the way you intend for your own personal use!

Jgun33 said:
Just curious. How much it would take to intice a dev to put in the long hours it would take to root 3.2 with a 1 click root product. I'm thinking, those of us who are interested could pitch into a pot and make a collection to go to the first dev who brings us an easy root?
Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks like we are going to have to come up with an incentive to get a rooted 3.2 without having to jump through a downgrade/upgrade hoop.
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As others said, it would be better to wait for ICS. It's not just rooting a stock 3.2 that's the issue, with the new bootloader, you still wouldn't be able to install CWM or custom kernels. So to completely open it up, you'd have to downgrade the bootloader. And there's already a process for doing that.
If your updated to 3.2, just downgrade it to 3.01, root it, add cwm, then install a pre-rooted (near) stock 3.2 ROM.

i havent had a problem yet with a cooked rom or my recooked rom.
Then again i am all about device experimentation so....

Jgun33 said:
Just curious. How much it would take to intice a dev to put in the long hours it would take to root 3.2 with a 1 click root product. I'm thinking, those of us who are interested could pitch into a pot and make a collection to go to the first dev who brings us an easy root?
Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks like we are going to have to come up with an incentive to get a rooted 3.2 without having to jump through a downgrade/upgrade hoop.
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I downgraded, rooted, installed CWM *AND* installed Lightspeed in about ten minutes. All of which was done without the aid of a PC - downloaded the downgrade, unzipped with Estrongs, followed the instructions.
If that's too hard maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place, because I'll put money on you coming back having broken something.

Cactus42 said:
I downgraded, rooted, installed CWM *AND* installed Lightspeed in about ten minutes. All of which was done without the aid of a PC - downloaded the downgrade, unzipped with Estrongs, followed the instructions.
If that's too hard maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place, because I'll put money on you coming back having broken something.
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+1 for another "Help! I bricked my tablet thread!" lol

Cactus42 said:
I downgraded, rooted, installed CWM *AND* installed Lightspeed in about ten minutes. All of which was done without the aid of a PC - downloaded the downgrade, unzipped with Estrongs, followed the instructions.
If that's too hard maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place, because I'll put money on you coming back having broken something.
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Followed your example and rooted. One of the easiest roots I've ever done. Thanks.

Icecream Sandwich already???

I got handed a brand new a500 by the boss to setup for testing and documenting print apps.
I turned it on it asked for the wifi. I set that up it immediately asked for an up date 70 odd megs. That downloaded and installed.
After the restart it asked for another update....
370 megs or so.
V4.0.x.x Icecream Sandwich woo hoo.
I'm going in early to work to play. Unfortunately I was not allowed to bring it home.
I'll install it tomorrow I left it downloading.
I'll try to get some screen shots etc.

hmm.... its so hard to believe.
cos acer has never been a leader when it comes to updates. never.
always the last.

Well I was surprised as any.
I'll know more for sure tomorrow.
I unfortunately didn't have time to complete the install.
But it wanted to download something large version 4.0.x.x
It was at about 20% when I left work.
My wife and kids were waiting to pick me up.

You are not the first to report about that v4.0 update, but it is not 4.0 you will be getting...

drwevil said:
I got handed a brand new a500 by the boss to setup for testing and documenting print apps.
I turned it on it asked for the wifi. I set that up it immediately asked for an up date 70 odd megs. That downloaded and installed.
After the restart it asked for another update....
370 megs or so.
V4.0.x.x Icecream Sandwich woo hoo.
I'm going in early to work to play. Unfortunately I was not allowed to bring it home.
I'll install it tomorrow I left it downloading.
I'll try to get some screen shots etc.
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That's just Acer's 3.2 ROM for the A500. Their ROM versions have bugger all to do with the actual Android version you get. ICS is not released yet.

ICS!
I think not

Bugger...
Well that's disappointing...

drwevil said:
Bugger...
Well that's disappointing...
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Why? It's common knowledge that ICS isn't being released until after the Prime launches.

Ohhhh this thread is hilarious lol
He announces ICS based on the Acer build number without even installing it
Acer_A501_4.027.15_COM_GEN1
There's your 4.0 number, and it's the update you'll be getting when you actually take the time to install it.
It's HC 3.2 roflolol

kjy2010 said:
Ohhhh this thread is hilarious lol
He announces ICS based on the Acer build number without even installing it
Acer_A501_4.027.15_COM_GEN1
There's your 4.0 number, and it's the update you'll be getting when you actually take the time to install it.
It's HC 3.2 roflolol
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Tbh, it is a perfectly understandable mistake and I feel it's unreasonable and just plain vile to berate him for it.

WereCatf said:
Tbh, it is a perfectly understandable mistake and I feel it's unreasonable and just plain vile to berate him for it.
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That's YOUR perception, not my intent
I actually got a great laugh about it lol

the title of this thread got my hopes up.
On the other hand, I recently flashed Thor's v12 ROM which is ICS themed. Love it

ICS wont released until after the "GALAXY NEXUS" is launched.

When do we get ICS update for acer a500?

I'm waiting for ICS update from acer. Could somebody tell me the time when it starts updating to ICS? If there's an unofficial way to make it happen, please inform me about it. Thank you.
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Probably 6 months. It will be on the newly released tablets first. Then, sometime later, it will be officially pushed to current owners.
But then again, nobody really knows except the manufacturers.
Experimental Roms, will be out before then. But NOBODY is going to personally contact you. You'll have to check the dev threads on your own

As of right now Acer has not made any announcements regarding ICS to the A500 tablets. But like it was previously said, doesn't mean we wont hear about it in a few months.

AHHHH its all over the net.. acer has said mid January.But that does mean for sure we will get it then.. they always seem to be a bit behind..AS far as the dev of rom in this forum..
I hope i am wrong but seems they are stuck with driver issue for GPS CAMERA AND CAMCORDER.. AS well as a few other things.. I think these are proprietary to the acer tablet. this could make us have to wait for acer to release a rom or drivers specific for this tablet .
so as said about . NOBODY REALLY HAS ANY IDEA. Blazing and his team are working very hard i would say send him some pay pal help..As we all have done.. .
READ THE forum before asking a question so common as this one. its been answered a Billion times in the last few months..
dont take this personal But SEARCH FUNCTION HAS BEEN CREATED TO AVOID THREADS AS THIS ONE..
GOOD LUCK..

I found a ROM called Thor v14. After flashing the ROM, It looks great on my a500.But I have no idea that the ROM is based on real ICS. Somebody told me it was based on android 3.2.

jlee4923 said:
I'm waiting for ICS update from acer. Could somebody tell me the time when it starts updating to ICS? If there's an unofficial way to make it happen, please inform me about it. Thank you.
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Three months, fourteen days, six hours, and counting .....

jlee4923 said:
I found a ROM called Thor v14. After flashing the ROM, It looks great on my a500.But I have no idea that the ROM is based on real ICS. Somebody told me it was based on android 3.2.
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It's based off of 3.2 but has some ICS theming.
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kjy2010 said:
Three months, fourteen days, six hours, and counting .....
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Up or Down?

I read that we will get it officially from Acer sometime this month.... but who knows if we will actually get it then... check it out http:// news.softpedia.com/news/Acer-Confirms-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Upgrade-for-Iconia-Tablets-in-January-2012-230292.shtml

cwillison94 said:
I read that we will get it officially from Acer sometime this month.... but who knows if we will actually get it then... check it out http:// news.softpedia.com/news/Acer-Confirms-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Upgrade-for-Iconia-Tablets-in-January-2012-230292.shtml
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Thank god you updated this thread with the same article spread over a dozen sites saying the exact same thing. *phew* It was almost lost.

gammaRascal said:
Thank god you updated this thread with the same article spread over a dozen sites saying the exact same thing. *phew* It was almost lost.
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To be fair, he brought more to the table than you did with your comment...

The kids table doesn't count.

gammaRascal said:
The kids table doesn't count.
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Just someone trying to help out and spread information. No need to be an a hole about it.

Take it down to a convulsion there thread hero.
I clearly thought there was a need to be an a-hole. Wheres your argument?

steves850 said:
To be fair, he brought more to the table than you did with your comment...
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Thanks, at least someone has some respect

Where's my thanks? )`; *tears*

here you go !!

The latest rumors now go that the A500 and PB's G100 will expect the ICS update coming April. It may well be that Acer kept its promise they made in January when they pushed the launchdate to April.

*delete*
sorry wrong thread :O

[Q] Question on ICS upgrade

Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
thanks

spud357c said:
Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
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Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. It will even cook your Bacon and eggs Probably access your bank accounts as well (not that there's anything in it mind you).
Seriously, considering NOBODY has an official ICS Update via OTA, there is no possible way to tell you exactly what will happen.
I would say, 65% of all OTA Update users will have no issues, and not lose any data.
The other 35% will bork their tabs for whatever reason, and eventually lose all data, because...... they don't do backups.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315683&page=19

Moscow Desire said:
Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. It will even cook your Bacon and eggs Probably access your bank accounts as well (not that there's anything in it mind you).
Seriously, considering NOBODY has an official ICS Update via OTA, there is no possible way to tell you exactly what will happen.
I would say, 65% of all OTA Update users will have no issues, and not lose any data.
The other 35% will bork their tabs for whatever reason, and eventually lose all data, because...... they don't do backups.
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Update didn't cook me any damn breakfast :-(
However it went smooth up gives you all of acres new Widgets but no Acer lock nor Acer ring bastards..
I needed to go to stock cuz I'm sending unit in for repair so just downloaded vaches 3.1 no ota update.zip unrooted and updated all the way to ics I was surprised it was released earlier than 27th normally it would have been delayed lol not early. Anyways its definitely a nice update for all you stock users.
PS I have not a clue how people use this stock SOOO BORING!
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dincdoes.me said:
Update didn't cook me any damn breakfast :-(
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Dude, sorry! I specifically told them 3, sunny side up. 1 side of bacon, grits, and sourdough rolls!
Oooops... that was my order, you got the Alpo. Sorry dinc.
Suppose we will be reading all the update posts now for the next 10 weeks.......

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oooops.... facepalm... spoke too soon.

Lol no thanks for the dog food ill make my own damn food and yes we will here about it till jellybeans.
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spud357c said:
Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
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Im not sure if it was supose to but my upgrade did NOT wipe any thing. Just added a few apps.

Im so over ICS. . I WANT JELLY BEAN . And i want it now..
my question about this coming update. Will it be Jelly bean or will that come in the weeks to come. My a 500 would look awesome with Jelly Bean and might come in handy if i need a snack.
For breakfast i want Sausage eggs and Toast no rolls... Lets get to it im hungry.

erica_renee said:
Im so over ICS. . I WANT JELLY BEAN . And i want it now..
my question about this coming update. Will it be Jelly bean or will that come in the weeks to come. My a 500 would look awesome with Jelly Bean and might come in handy if i need a snack.
For breakfast i want Sausage eggs and Toast no rolls... Lets get to it im hungry.
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Erica u better not have just started a new ****storm !
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Official ICS update came yesterday , It keeps everything including your wallpapers and homescreen layout....