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Flash custom recovery on an already rooted Aria with clockworks recovery?

is it possible to switch to another custom recovery after I already got clockworks?
I tried unrevoked but its stuck in the reboot (I believe its trying to root my aria again)

not sure what youre trying to do.... i believe Clockwork is the only Recovery for rooted phones. if you want to flash a custom ROM, well that is something else altogether. please be specific as to what you want to flash to the phone. include a link to the flash too

I was trying to flash psfreedom recovery rom from here
http://psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Aria
I believe the method on that website was for unrooted arias without clockworks

zyo said:
is it possible to switch to another custom recovery after I already got clockworks?
I tried unrevoked but its stuck in the reboot (I believe its trying to root my aria again)
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To flash a different custom recovery on your Aria, you need to rename the zip file LIBEIMG.ZIP on the SD card and boot in HBOOT (Power on the phone by holding down VOL DOWN and the Power Button). When it boots to the HBOOT screen you should see text stating that it found LIBEIMG.ZIP and is installing it.

awesome. now before I go ahead, is there any clockworkx recovery image I can revert back to?

zyo said:
awesome. now before I go ahead, is there any clockworkx recovery image I can revert back to?
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I'm curious, what recovery are you talking about?

thanks for including the link. the instructions are clear.... Root IS required, Clockwork recovery is recommended, the Freedom Aria flash appears to be a custom ROM.
once the phone is Rooted, boot into Recovery, make a Nandroid backup, and flash downloaded zip file from SD card.
if you need help Rooting, there is all sorts of good methods available on this site. I use the Unrevoked method myself, but it works best on Linux or Mac OS

zedbra said:
thanks for including the link. the instructions are clear.... Root IS required, Clockwork recovery is recommended, the Freedom Aria flash appears to be a custom ROM.
once the phone is Rooted, boot into Recovery, make a Nandroid backup, and flash downloaded zip file from SD card.
if you need help Rooting, there is all sorts of good methods available on this site. I use the Unrevoked method myself, but it works best on Linux or Mac OS
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hmm I think you are looking at the old method which is a custom rom
The new one is a custom recovery which brings me to the question as I dont think you can flash a custom recovery in the clockwork custom recovery.

its possible im looking at the wrong thing, but far as i can tell it states "Recovery Custom ROM" which is totally different from Custom Recovery ROM
From link posted above:
"Update can be installed in recovery mode in Psfreedom settings menu via Update (local) or Update (net) if you have configured your wifi connection. Put the file on your SDCARD and install it.
Download Recovery custom rom : http://alephzain.klutsh.com/aria-recovery.tgz "

tpbklake said:
To flash a different custom recovery on your Aria, you need to rename the zip file LIBEIMG.ZIP on the SD card and boot in HBOOT (Power on the phone by holding down VOL DOWN and the Power Button). When it boots to the HBOOT screen you should see text stating that it found LIBEIMG.ZIP and is installing it.
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I have similar questions. I was trying to update my version of clockwork also using unrevoked again, but couldn't get it to work. I guess my questions are:
1. Is there any benefit in updating to a newer version of clockwork? My current version is 2.0.x.x and I believe the latest one is 2.5.0.4.
2. Will this same method work to do so? Can I rename the latest clockwork .zip file like this and get it updated?
I thought using the flash clockwork option in ROM Manager would do it, but it doesn't. If I reboot from ROM Manager it goes to the newer version, but if I reboot otherwise it goes to my original. The couple times I've used it, there appears to be maybe some different features/options in the newer one and I feel like I might be missing out on something!

What's the difference with this recovery?
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zedbra said:
its possible im looking at the wrong thing, but far as i can tell it states "Recovery Custom ROM" which is totally different from Custom Recovery ROM
From link posted above:
"Update can be installed in recovery mode in Psfreedom settings menu via Update (local) or Update (net) if you have configured your wifi connection. Put the file on your SDCARD and install it.
Download Recovery custom rom : http://alephzain.klutsh.com/aria-recovery.tgz "
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These are probably two different things. once you got the recovery rom flashed you can upgrade it in recovery mode (hence its different from original clockwork recovery)

Ok bro, I didn't see much info about it so I'm gonna take your word for it.
@brswattt, far as I can tell this is " basically" used for jailbreaking the ps3.

@armyengineer;
you can use unrEVOked to flash the new recovery. if youre a Windows user, download the unrEVOked tool and run the .exe as Administrator. also make sure there are no conflicting s/w on the PC such as HTC Sync and you have all the drivers installed(HBoot, ADB drivers, etc.)
for more info about the PSFreedom Recovery, check out THIS Thread HERE

unrevoked keeps giving me
couldnt find misc
error, is there any other way to flash a recovery?

zedbra said:
@armyengineer;
you can use unrEVOked to flash the new recovery. if youre a Windows user, download the unrEVOked tool and run the .exe as Administrator. also make sure there are no conflicting s/w on the PC such as HTC Sync and you have all the drivers installed(HBoot, ADB drivers, etc.)
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This still isn't working for me. Everything appears to go well at the start, then I get:
Waiting for root...(safe to restart if this doesn't work)
At which point the only way I can restart is to pull my battery. After doing so, it reboots and I get:
This was a triumph
It is not, however, any such thing. After another minute I get this:
Internal error: couldn't find misc.
So I've still got my original version of clockwork, 2.0.1.3, despite the fact that ROM Manager is telling me I have 2.5.0.1. I'm obviously missing something here.
BTW, if it matters I'm running CM 6.1.0

armyengineer51 said:
I have similar questions. I was trying to update my version of clockwork also using unrevoked again, but couldn't get it to work. I guess my questions are:
1. Is there any benefit in updating to a newer version of clockwork? My current version is 2.0.x.x and I believe the latest one is 2.5.0.4.
2. Will this same method work to do so? Can I rename the latest clockwork .zip file like this and get it updated?
I thought using the flash clockwork option in ROM Manager would do it, but it doesn't. If I reboot from ROM Manager it goes to the newer version, but if I reboot otherwise it goes to my original. The couple times I've used it, there appears to be maybe some different features/options in the newer one and I feel like I might be missing out on something!
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Although there is a ClockworkMod 2.5.0.4 version, I don't think it is for the Aria. According to ClockworkMod ROM Manager, 2.5.0.1 is the most current one for the Aria so I am believing what ROM Manager is telling me since it is written by the same the vendor.

I have tried CM 6.1.0
original HTC Aria 2.1 International Rom
and FR001 RC1
all no go. I think it has something to do with the phone already been rooted and has clockworks installed which makes unrevoked unhappy

zyo said:
I have tried CM 6.1.0
original HTC Aria 2.1 International Rom
and FR001 RC1
all no go. I think it has something to do with the phone already been rooted and has clockworks installed which makes unrevoked unhappy
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OK, let's start from the beginning. You asked about installing an alternate recovery (PSFreedom recovery), but apparently it has its own installation procedure that needs to be run on an unrooted Aria.
What you need is to find just the PSFreedom recovery and copy it to your SD called in a file called LIBEIMG.ZIP and that is how you need to install it on a root phone that has ClockworkMod. Perhaps you need to go back to the PSFreedom thread and ask if a LIBEIMG.ZIP can be produced that can be flashed from HBOOT to replace ClockworkMod.
Looks like everything you need is located in the PSFreedom wiki:
http://psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Aria

I got a recovery.bin which is suppose to be used with unrevoked.
are you talking about the same one if I just compress it into a zip file?

Flashing new recovery isnt working.

Hey, I am trying to successfully get a new ROM, and in all the forums and such I have read tell me that with the Desire Z/G2 I need to flash the newest ClockWorkMod recovery. So i have downloaded a couple different recovery .img files.
Now when i use Emulator, i put in;
su
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recoveryname.img
and it says
flash_image: not found
I dont understand why ROM Manager doesnt give the newest recovery file as an option.
Can anyone help me in this situation?
Thanks

mobilemidget said:
Hey, I am trying to successfully get a new ROM, and in all the forums and such I have read tell me that with the Desire Z/G2 I need to flash the newest ClockWorkMod recovery. So i have downloaded a couple different recovery .img files.
Now when i use Emulator, i put in;
su
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recoveryname.img
and it says
flash_image: not found
I dont understand why ROM Manager doesnt give the newest recovery file as an option.
Can anyone help me in this situation?
Thanks
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Did u delete the name on the recoveryname.img upon flashing??
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Download Root Explorer and navigate to /system/bin
Make sure /system is mounted in r/w then take this attached file, unzip it, and place it inside of /system/bin
Go back into terminal and try that command again.

ok so I installed root manager, and put the flash_image.zip in the system/bit, and tried it again with the terminal emulator, but i still have no results, it says after the pause when you plress enter after the flash_image prompt, your supposed to reboot the phone and it should start with the new recovery, but when i open ROM manager it staill shows V 2.5.... If i did somthing wrong i cant figure it out., Please help.
Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4QViSam2og&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Follow these instructions. You can't go wrong. Make sure you back out of the app and go back in. It sets the cursor to the correct posistion. All you have to do is put the .img in the root of your sd. Hope this helps, it did for me.
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wait, so why aren't you just flashing the recovery through ROM manager? Are you trying to install CWR 3.0+?

yes I am trying to flash cwm 3.0, and it is not an option with ROM manager. I will try the Youtube instructions. Thanks

Ok so I tried the instructions with the Youtube video, and when i do the cmd promt in Terminal i get this;
Cant open device: "/dev/block/mmcblk0"
error in reading mbr!
failed with error: -1
I have the recovery.img file (not zip) on the sd card, I used root mamnager to put it in the bin file within system. but the instructions on the video say to use astro and it doesnt give an option to go as deep as root manager.
Thanks

Yes unzip it but make sure its in the root of your sd. That means not folders at all. That's the command that he is making in the video. I don't think you can flash cwm 3.0 in rom manager, only revert back to earlier recoveries, for froyo roms.
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Make sure the file is named what your commanding it to be. Make sure its recovery.img no caps.
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OK so I am trying this too. I am putting the recovery image directly to the root of my sd and I can see that it's there. But in TE, I put in the commands and it tells me
flash_image: not found
It's there!!!! I can see it when I have my phone connected. What am I doing wrong?
Edit: I am running stock rooted. Does this have something to do with it?

Rooted running a stock rom? Honestly I can't tell you all I know is I'm running custom rom. If I had to guess I would say it doesn't. All I can say is I had issues until I watched the video, sorry I can't help more. Only thing I would say to do is wipe everything you did and try redoing it.
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I can say you should only have one .img in your sd to not confuse it. I'm pretty sure you can use command prompt on your pc if you have access to one.
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Ok, I think I am getting somewhere, I was searching my sdcard on my computer, and I realised that the root of my sdcard is not called "sdcard" so in the command i was doing it wrong, It is called "HTC DESIRE" so i did it in Emulator and it worked i rebooted my phone in recovery and I am now rocking the new ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.5...
Thanks all for the help, Hope what i discovered helps someone else.

Wait, Wait, Wait... I just screwed it up again... I went into ROM Manager after I successfully flashed 3.0.0.5. and it was not showing that in ROM Manager, so I tapped on flash latest recovery, and damnit... it replaced all my hard work with the 2.5 recovery... I have tried to repeat the flash process a few times with 3.0, and i have not been successful... Help... I dont know what to do now!!!

Instead of flashing the recovery in rom manager, after you've inputted the
su
# flash_image recovery sdcard/recovery.img
you can just type in after it
# reboot recovery
and it will reboot you into CWM 3.0. Be sure to perform a nandroid backup under 2.2 first and when you want to go back to a froyo rom, you'll have to flash the 2.5 recovery image again.

Yes, you will not see it in rom manager. Just reboot into the recovery and if you see orange and cwm 3.0 your good. Just repeat the steps.
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mobilemidget said:
Hey, I am trying to successfully get a new ROM, and in all the forums and such I have read tell me that with the Desire Z/G2 I need to flash the newest ClockWorkMod recovery. So i have downloaded a couple different recovery .img files.
Now when i use Emulator, i put in;
su
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recoveryname.img
and it says
flash_image: not found
I dont understand why ROM Manager doesnt give the newest recovery file as an option.
Can anyone help me in this situation?
Thanks
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"flash_image: not found" means that you do not have the 'flash_image' binary installed. Follow the guide here to get 'flash_image' installed on your device (the 'flash_image' binary is attached).
As for why ROM Manager not giving the newest recovery as an option, ROM Manger isn't fully compatible with the latest recovery as it just came out. The latest recovery (I'm assuming you're referring to v3.x) is only for Gingerbread based ROM's, if you're trying to install a Froyo based ROM then you should be using recovery version 2.x.

OriginalGabriel said:
"flash_image: not found" means that you do not have the 'flash_image' binary installed. Follow the guide here to get 'flash_image' installed on your device (the 'flash_image' binary is attached).
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I will try this tonight, thank you. I haven't run into this in any of the tutorials I've read though. I appreciate it.

Hey everyone I found a site that shows me how to flash CWM 3.0 through ROM Manager,
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-clockworkmod-recovery-3-using-rom-manager/
However, it is not working for me, if anyone has been successful in doing it this way please let me know cause evrything i try this i still am left with CWM 2.5. I really want to try the new Cyanagen nightly ROM, but i need to have 3.0... I had it once when i was doing it through terminal, however stupid me went back into rom manager and ruined what i did, and could not redo it... i am getting frustrated.
Please Help me.
Thanks

[Q] S-off but no root?

First time posting although I've been lurking for quite a while so hopefully I don't get flamed out of here on my first attempt.
I tried posting this under another thread in Q&A but was not getting a response and I'm anxious to try and get to where I could start flashing some ROMs . As far as I know I've done everything correctly but I'm sure I'm missing something. I don't mean to double post this but like I said I'm really anxious to get started.
First I did root my Evo using unrevoked 3, all seemed to go well and correctly as I ended up with S-OFF, superuser app, etc. I created a backup and everything, (still running stock Sense ROM.) Do I need to try using Unrevoked Forever now?
I started reading posts about backing up RSA keys and WiMAX partitions etc and when I connected the phone (yes usb debugging and charge only); opened a command prompt and browsed to the ADB directory I never get the # confirming I have root access. (I only get the $)
Now from what I'm reading Clockwork mod backs up the WiMax anyway but I still wanted to walk through the process to get more familiar with it. I guess my first question is do I really need to back up the partition and keys if I have a successful nandroid backup?
Also I installed root check and the under the basic setting it said I had no root access, and then under the advanced setting it said I did.
I tried installing Ti backup and clicking under problems to install busy box thinking that may be the problem, but I don't see the setting it describes there where I can change to install busybox.
Finally I also downloaded the busybox installer. It gives two options of where to install it in either /system/bin/, or /system/xbin/....does it matter? Will installing it this way be ok or do I need to push through ADB? If I need to push through ADB then obviously I need to get my # root access figured out.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can try and help me make heads or tails of this situation.
Radio: 2.15.00.11.19
Software Number : 3.70.651.1
Hardware Version: 0003
HBoot: 2.10.0001

I would recommend your next step would be to flash over from clockwork to amon ra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Download the PC136IMG.zip and place it on the root of your SD card. Update it through HBOOT. Once that is done do a nand back up of your wimax keys. Then proceed to download a rom to your liking and flash.

im0rtalz said:
I would recommend your next step would be to flash over from clockwork to amon ra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Download the PC136IMG.zip and place it on the root of your SD card. Update it through HBOOT. Once that is done do a nand back up of your wimax keys. Then proceed to download a rom to your liking and flash.
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Yes, flash over to the Amon RA recovery. You might need to delete the PC36IMG.zip file after installing so that it will not ask you again to update.
Then you could just download the superuser app from
http://goo-inside.me/superuser/su-2.3.6.2-efgh-signed.zip
copy it to the root of your SD card, and then install that from RECOVERY in Hboot menu.

Verified, ran August GB RUU and phone re-rooted

Okay I verified that if you have s-off you will be able to get root back on your phone if you run the RUU.
As expected the RUU did unroot my phone but it didn't touch s-off. So I downloaded CWM 3.0.0.8 from dougpiston.com and changed it to PB31IMG.zip (this has to be a flashable zip file to work) and it loaded from hboot no problem. I then downloaded the latest superuser app using ROM Manager, version 2.3.6.3 efgh, older versions will not work, and just flashed it through recovery. Superuser does not need to be renamed update.zip you can just leave the name as is and select let me choose zip from sdcard and it installs just fine.
Took a while for me to get superuser running again as I had an older version and I could only find the newest version in ROM Manager.
****YOU MUST HAVE S-OFF FOR THIS TO WORK*********************

kzoodroid said:
Okay I verified that if you have s-off you will be able to get root back on your phone if you run the RUU.
As expected the RUU did unroot my phone but it didn't touch s-off. So I downloaded CWM 3.0.0.8 from dougpiston.com and changed it to PB31IMG.zip (this has to be a flashable zip file to work) and it loaded from hboot no problem. I then downloaded the latest superuser app using ROM Manager, version 2.3.6.3 efgh, older versions will not work, and just flashed it through recovery. Superuser does not need to be renamed update.zip you can just leave the name as is and select let me choose zip from sdcard and it installs just fine.
Took a while for me to get superuser running again as I had an older version and I could only find the newest version in ROM Manager.
****YOU MUST HAVE S-OFF FOR THIS TO WORK*********************
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I can't seem to find a link to to superuser inside ROM Manager. Can you tell me where to locate it?
thanks,
John

under download rom > extras

kzoodroid said:
under download rom > extras
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You can also get it from here

Thanks to you both. I didn't even click on the Download ROM because it's premium and I'm still getting my feet wet with the whole root thing. I'm off to try the GB RUU w/radio and then re-root.

What if you have s-on?

You can only re-root if you have s-off. S-on blocks you from replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery and blocks the installation of superuser into the system folder.
Eventually the Unrevoked team will come up with a new way to root phones but this most likely won't happen till the OTA actually starts to drop and people report how they lost root. And then who knows how long it will take them to do it. Could be a few days to a few months.

kzoodroid said:
You can only re-root if you have s-off. S-on blocks you from replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery and blocks the installation of superuser into the system folder.
Eventually the Unrevoked team will come up with a new way to root phones but this most likely won't happen till the OTA actually starts to drop and people report how they lost root. And then who knows how long it will take them to do it. Could be a few days to a few months.
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Jeez, can't believe I screwed myself like that. I'm a regular root/flasher, and no idea how to get my fix now..

deadsoulboy said:
Jeez, can't believe I screwed myself like that. I'm a regular root/flasher, and no idea how to get my fix now..
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I ran the RUU with all expectations of not being able to re-root my phone just so I could test if the OTA would change the security settings on my phone. I also still wasn't sure if I could even get root back if it was still s-off so I was willing to experiment with knowing full well what could happen. From past experience with the Eris and losing root for about 3 months you have to flash these leaks with all expectations that it will break your phone and not sweat it too much if it does as eventually someone will find a fix.

kzoodroid said:
I ran the RUU with all expectations of not being able to re-root my phone just so I could test if the OTA would change the security settings on my phone. I also still wasn't sure if I could even get root back if it was still s-off so I was willing to experiment with knowing full well what could happen. From past experience with the Eris and losing root for about 3 months you have to flash these leaks with all expectations that it will break your phone and not sweat it too much if it does as eventually someone will find a fix.
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You're absolutely right. I have no doubt in my mind someone will come up with a way to root 2.3 on the INC

Alright, I've got s-off, downloaded the superuser 2.3.6.3 efgh app from the ROM manager butttt... now what? I've tried to boot into recovery but I just get an icon of a phone with an exclamation mark inside of a triangle, which I'm assuming isn't good.

Flash clockworkmod recovery first, then the superuser zip.

I tried that but it gives me an error saying: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".

If you flashed the GB RUU and lost root and/or s-off.
Someone correct me please if I'm wrong but couldn't you download the froyo RUU and load it then root and s-off?
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How are you trying to flash it? I'd recommend getting the 3.0.0.7 (AMOLED) or 3.0.0.8 (SLCD) recovery from www.dougpiston.com. Flash in hboot. Or is that how you're doing it?

deadsoulboy said:
You're absolutely right. I have no doubt in my mind someone will come up with a way to root 2.3 on the INC
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The Eris had a manual method (race method) for rooting the phone but I could never find one posted for the Inc. It involved having the phone connected to a pc with adb running and then taking out the sdcard and rebooting, at a certain point of the boot process you counted to 4 and then pushed the sdcard back in. If you did it correctly adb was able to connect to the phone and you could slip a custom recovery and su in. It was rather complicated and only a handful of people ever did it correctly myself included and it was eventually replaced by a one-click method. The one-click method still pretty much does the same thing you just don't have to manually remove the sdcard or have the phone connected to a pc. In some ways the Eris has a lot more support from its community than the Inc does probably because it was Verizons first android phone.

k_nivesout said:
How are you trying to flash it? I'd recommend getting the 3.0.0.7 (AMOLED) or 3.0.0.8 (SLCD) recovery from www.dougpiston.com. Flash in hboot. Or is that how you're doing it?
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I second this it has to be a flashable version (contains android-info text file + the recovery image) to work. I used the 3.0.0.8 file from doug pistons website which is already to go just needs to be renamed PB31IMG.zip and make sure it isn't being named PB31IMG.zip.zip as file extensions can be hidden especially if you are renaming it on a pc. I downloaded it directly to my phone and renamed it there so the extension wasn't hidden.

swskeptic said:
Alright, I've got s-off, downloaded the superuser 2.3.6.3 efgh app from the ROM manager butttt... now what? I've tried to boot into recovery but I just get an icon of a phone with an exclamation mark inside of a triangle, which I'm assuming isn't good.
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I beleive that is becasue you stil have the stock recovery? Did you flash the clockwork recovery from dougpiston.com?

I flashed the clockwork mod recovery 3.0.0.7 from dougpiston via hboot.
I tried several different ways to boot into recovery to flash the superuser app but it isn't working. When I try to do it from the clockword mod app it says the same error: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".
I tried to manually download the superuser .zip and boot into recovery from the hboot menu, but it still gave me that same phone icon with the exclamation mark and triangle and then nothing.

swskeptic said:
I flashed the clockwork mod recovery 3.0.0.7 from dougpiston via hboot.
I tried several different ways to boot into recovery to flash the superuser app but it isn't working. When I try to do it from the clockword mod app it says the same error: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".
I tried to manually download the superuser .zip and boot into recovery from the hboot menu, but it still gave me that same phone icon with the exclamation mark and triangle and then nothing.
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First thing are you getting into recovery from the hboot menu? And you can't get into recovery from ROM Manager because you need superuser installed to do it that way. It still sounds to me like you don't have ClockworkMod Recovery installed. Maybe only version 3.0.0.8 works I'm not sure but that version is for both amoled and SLCD screens. So either try reflashing your copy of 3.0.0.7 or try flashing 3.0.0.8. I do think I had to flash the recovery a couple times to get it to stick.

Another s-off question

Hi about 10 months ago I rooted my Wildfire with no problems using Turkeys ultimate guide from these forums.
I have got apps to sd, live wallpapers running, and all is good. However my phone is still S-on and the H Boot version is 0.80.0002.
When I was playing around with the settings in SetCPU it informed me that the binary was out of date and to update it, but when i tried it would not update as the phone is still S-on.
My question is can I S-off using Revolutionary as it is already rooted? Obviously I will back up using clockworkmod, but if I s-off the phone are there any obvious advantages apart from being able to update the binary in SetCPU?
Thanks

Are you talking about an outdated Superuser Binary? If so, you can download the latest binary here:
http://tinyurl.com/63tsg9c
And simply flash it in Clockworkmod Recovery. This will give you the updated binary and SetCPU should work fine again.
If you have to get S-OFF, then, you will have to apply the official Froyo RUU and update your HBoot to 1.01.0001 because Revolutionary doesn't support any other HBoots, including 0.80.x. Advantages include a writeable /system partition (Which enables you copy paste stuff in the /system folder on a running handset, one case in point is precisely what you described. This will allow updating of the binary), and the other advantage is enabling of Fastboot commands, which allows you to flash stuff like radio's, recoveries, nandroid backups etc directly to the phone without using Clockworkmod Recovery.
Tl;dr - You will have to completely format your device, install official Froyo, and only then can you obtain S-OFF

And simply flash it in Clockworkmod Recovery.
When you say simply flash it in Clockworkmod recovery, what do you mean? And when you say apply the official Froyo RUU and update the HBoot how can I do that as I am running Wildpuzzle ROM at the moment and it says there are no updates available, so can you explain in simple terms what steps to take?
Thanks

Flash in Clockworkmod Recovery - Same way as you installed your WildPuzzle ROM ZIP file. Turn off phone, start using Vol Down + Power, then navigate to RECOVERY, Press Power Button. Here, select "Install Zip from SDCard", then browse to "Select Zip from SDCard", and select the Zip file I linked above.
This entire process is called "flashing".
If you are still interested in getting S-OFF:
- Download the EXE WWE Froyo 2.22.405.1 RUU from here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz
- Connect your Wildfire to your PC, run it. It will automatically proceed and perform the required steps.
- If you get s Customer ID 131, you will need to create a Goldcard using your SDCard. This an be done using GoldcardTool. The required steps and download can be found here:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/308798-pc-application-goldcardtool/
IMO, I would not recommend you to go for S-OFF since it doesn't seem you are too much inclined to stuff like these (It is not a necessity. Besides, once /system is writeable, it is a two edged sword. Messing something up there will likely cause your phone to not boot). Further, it breaks certain functions on Sense ROMs which needs an additional fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713

hey man, you could also try the test version of unrevoked 3.2 and run that to s off your phone. it works on your h-boot ( i know as i have the same)
since i am new the forum wont let me post the link, its to sstop spamming :/ just search for unrevoked test 3.2 ( it has to be test 3.2 because the others wont work on the hboot to my knowlege. :/)
just download the program and run it and it should do it with no hassle.
good luck

heavy_metal_man said:
hey man, you could also try the test version of unrevoked 3.2 and run that to s off your phone. it works on your h-boot ( i know as i have the same)
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That's totally incorrect. Rooting with Unrevoked =/= S-OFF. Besides, on the very first line the OP says he has rooted his phone using Unrevoked.

ah, sorry about that i was looking at unrevoked forever :/ just ignore me ........